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August 26, 2014, 11:51:36 PM
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The most aggressive shakeout yet this is a good sign
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What does this terminology mean? ie shakeout?
Shaking out what?
Shaking the tree to get the weak hands to sell cheaply.  Whales will manipulate the market, forcing it down to get people to sell cheaply while they wait below the tree to catch the sells.  Thus they get their coins at a discount.  If you can spot this happening, put in some low buys ahead of the walls instead of selling.

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August 26, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
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The most aggressive shakeout yet this is a good sign
indeed

Noob Q again.
What does this terminology mean? ie shakeout?
Shaking out what?
Shaking the tree to get the weak hands to sell cheaply.  Whales will manipulate the market, forcing it down to get people to sell cheaply while they wait below the tree to catch the sells.  Thus they get their coins at a discount.  If you can spot this happening, put in some low buys ahead of the walls instead of selling.

This.

Also, the whales will wait when the order book is getting filled around 90-95.

Now, you can't buy 4000 BTCD back for cheap, or else you will buy up the whole orderbook.
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August 26, 2014, 11:58:00 PM
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we need to break 0.008, I want all the weak hands gone

I can arrange that, but don't want to Tongue

I don't know if there are many weak hands on this coin.

A lot of money came in at 800k-1110K.

Don't think a lot of people will sell with loss, especially with this dev team Smiley
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August 27, 2014, 12:02:24 AM
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we need to break 0.008, I want all the weak hands gone
I think enough weak hands have been selling between 0.01 and 0.085 over the last 36 hours.  my guess is bottom's of these waves will gradually increase in price.  900k looks like a reasonable support level.  We already saw a WH whale on cryptsy dump it below 0.085 (which I missed dammit!) and we're already above 900k again.  My guess is that we will sideways around 900-950k for a few hours while the books fill, and then we'll bounce off back to 1100k again.  I hate manipulators, I really do.

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August 27, 2014, 12:06:03 AM
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Uh..isn't JL777 pretty close to releasing some of his masterpiece?
Why would anyone sell now?
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August 27, 2014, 12:08:53 AM
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Uh..isn't JL777 pretty close to releasing some of his masterpiece?
Why would anyone sell now?
profit, if you watched market all day, tons of bots are active, they drive price down someone accumulate then they put price back up someone sell and over and over again. Easy trick to get rich if you have enough BTC or BTCD to work
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August 27, 2014, 12:10:37 AM
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glad I had some 27 forgotten WDC in a pool

Just bought 0.04693368 at 0.00945686
LOL I couldn't resist  Cheesy

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August 27, 2014, 12:30:07 AM
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we need to break 0.008, I want all the weak hands gone
I think enough weak hands have been selling between 0.01 and 0.085 over the last 36 hours.  my guess is bottom's of these waves will gradually increase in price.  900k looks like a reasonable support level.  We already saw a WH whale on cryptsy dump it below 0.085 (which I missed dammit!) and we're already above 900k again.  My guess is that we will sideways around 900-950k for a few hours while the books fill, and then we'll bounce off back to 1100k again.  I hate manipulators, I really do.
oh i didnt notice how low cryptsy went
Yeah I think it was one dump from around 900k to just over 800k.  That was weird to dump like that.  shame i had just used all of my BTC buying at 900!

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August 27, 2014, 12:34:48 AM
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Quick update on ShortBTCD, as opening day draws to a close.  35,450 NXT-worth were traded.  The target price swung as low as 80 and as high as 110, with around 50 price adjustments over 10.5 hours.  The target price is currently 105.6, based on BTCD/BTC at 0.009235.  As such, the bid/ask is now 105/106.

We're about to close up shop for the evening - to reopen in about 12 hours.  If anyone wants to get in or out of a position at current levels, now's the time.
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August 27, 2014, 12:49:19 AM
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Quick update on ShortBTCD, as opening day draws to a close.  35,450 NXT-worth were traded.  The target price swung as low as 80 and as high as 110, with around 50 price adjustments over 10.5 hours.  The target price is currently 105.6, based on BTCD/BTC at 0.009235.  As such, the bid/ask is now 105/106.

We're about to close up shop for the evening - to reopen in about 12 hours.  If anyone wants to get in or out of a position at current levels, now's the time.
So if somebody bought shortBTCD this morning, they would have a 6% profit right now
and if they were lucky enough to buy at 80, more than 30% profit?
All this while BTCD went down

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August 27, 2014, 12:51:28 AM
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Quick update on ShortBTCD, as opening day draws to a close.  35,450 NXT-worth were traded.  The target price swung as low as 80 and as high as 110, with around 50 price adjustments over 10.5 hours.  The target price is currently 105.6, based on BTCD/BTC at 0.009235.  As such, the bid/ask is now 105/106.

We're about to close up shop for the evening - to reopen in about 12 hours.  If anyone wants to get in or out of a position at current levels, now's the time.
So if somebody bought shortBTCD this morning, they would have a 6% profit right now
and if they were lucky enough to buy at 80, more than 30% profit?
All this while BTCD went down

Yep.
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August 27, 2014, 12:54:56 AM
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Status report:

Been helping out other devs and we have seen an early GUI release from longzai, also I am about get a new release of the core that is all ready for me to interface to and I have most of the debugging portion of the accounting coded up. I "hired" an expert on PoS algo (he found flaw in PPC) to make sure BTCD algo is fine. He didnt ask for any money, but I will gladly pay for expert help. Already jimmy2011 suggested an improvement which we have put into the test version.
InstantDEX GUI is also making some progress and even helping some new coins deciding to plug into the supernetwork

So, now that my "day" is done, time to get some serious coding done. Good thing I have a 16 hour workday Smiley

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August 27, 2014, 01:22:52 AM
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By the way, if you really want to get into or out of a position while we're on overnight hiatus, just submit a bid/ask on the asset exchange and if we see it (and if it's at the right price), we'll fill it.  Even better, message me when you do so - better chance we'll see it promptly.

For reference, with BTCD/BTC at 0.0100, we'd fill bids at 98 or higher.
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August 27, 2014, 01:26:23 AM
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The most aggressive shakeout yet this is a good sign
indeed

Noob Q again.
What does this terminology mean? ie shakeout?
Shaking out what?

The weak hands.

They will panic sell.

You need people that will HODL their BTCD stack, not people that sell when someone is dumping.

AH yes, I understand. Im a holder...and buyer

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August 27, 2014, 01:26:36 AM
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Status report:

Been helping out other devs and we have seen an early GUI release from longzai, also I am about get a new release of the core that is all ready for me to interface to and I have most of the debugging portion of the accounting coded up. I "hired" an expert on PoS algo (he found flaw in PPC) to make sure BTCD algo is fine. He didnt ask for any money, but I will gladly pay for expert help. Already jimmy2011 suggested an improvement which we have put into the test version.
InstantDEX GUI is also making some progress and even helping some new coins deciding to plug into the supernetwork

So, now that my "day" is done, time to get some serious coding done. Good thing I have a 16 hour workday Smiley

James

Lol, why did you have to comment.

Now the price is up already. :/
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August 27, 2014, 01:28:48 AM
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BOING!

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August 27, 2014, 01:34:04 AM
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Just been thinking that pow coins are all in decline, BTCD on the rise which will make mining to earn coins then trade for BTCD very costly in electricity

I've seen my returns drop to 30% in a week.....ITS TIME TO HODL FOLKS

I love swimming with the whales even if I'm only a minnow, but I won't touch my BTCD wallet to do it

As the man in the song says " You gotta know when to hodl'em "

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August 27, 2014, 01:49:53 AM
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You have read how BTC could oneday be worth $5000?
Well, ever wonder how on earth that was going to happen?

Think about it.

OK, I hope you see the answer

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How?
I have seen such figures bandied around for possible future BTC price.
Im a noob so really dont know.



Depends what state the world's fiat currencies are in. BTC could be US100k a coin but that 100k could be worth a lot less than it is today.

In a few years time, the most important ratio might be BTC/GOLD. Was around 1:1 last Nov.

Anyway, hypothetically speaking, if BTCD settles at $50 or 0.1 BTC over the next few months, then with BTC at $5000 , BTCD will be $500. Nice.

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August 27, 2014, 01:55:41 AM
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In XMR I'm expecting a slow rise with bumps.  No significant month-end dumping this time, unless there's a delusional panic of some sort.  I can barely even formulate this expectation, let alone articulate a justification for it.  If pressed, I would say:  Not enough monero on offer to stay below 0040, but too much disaster going on in cryptoland for a proper bull stampede.  BTSX is an absolute catastrophe for crypto generally, on the scale of Mt. Gox.  Other price leaders are pretty awful too.  DRK is destroying a lot of wealth.  Naive DRK holders who don't understand the distinction between DRK and XMR at a technical level just feel robbed.  BTCD could do a lot of damage to crypto as well.  This PoS blackcoin clone's market cap passed XMR today.  It could be several days before it collapses into obscurity.  Until it tops out, the dumpers won't be rolling their ill-gotten gains into XMR yet, so no choo-choo.



Looks like some of the monero people are scared now. I hope jl777 rips him a new one!
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August 27, 2014, 02:08:43 AM
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Status report:

Been helping out other devs and we have seen an early GUI release from longzai, also I am about get a new release of the core that is all ready for me to interface to and I have most of the debugging portion of the accounting coded up. I "hired" an expert on PoS algo (he found flaw in PPC) to make sure BTCD algo is fine. He didnt ask for any money, but I will gladly pay for expert help. Already jimmy2011 suggested an improvement which we have put into the test version.
InstantDEX GUI is also making some progress and even helping some new coins deciding to plug into the supernetwork

So, now that my "day" is done, time to get some serious coding done. Good thing I have a 16 hour workday Smiley

James

Any way we can get the heads up on which coins will be joining the network? I expect those coins to get a bump if they do.
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