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August 23, 2014, 07:26:44 AM
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I've heard about the troll mills in India several times now, but have finally seen them in action for the first time. I really want to know who is paying truthful and his/her team and why? Who gains? Who is our competition? Or is it someone with a personal grudge?
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August 23, 2014, 07:27:55 AM
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"

"Together we stand for a fairness and truth"
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.
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August 23, 2014, 07:36:41 AM
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.

How much Uro do you own?
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August 23, 2014, 07:44:01 AM
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.

How much Uro do you own?

Silly question don't you think especially since I have repeatedly said this is a scam.
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August 23, 2014, 07:56:17 AM
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.

How much Uro do you own?

Silly question don't you think especially since I have repeatedly said this is a scam.

the ones that scream scam, are the biggest scammers in general. you have no proof to back urself up ? if you just relaying on some bankrupt accusation, which is total scrap. 
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"



YES he did say this on the last forum.

"Together we stand for a fairness and truth"
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August 23, 2014, 08:00:53 AM
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.

How much Uro do you own?

Silly question don't you think especially since I have repeatedly said this is a scam.

the ones that scream scam, are the biggest scammers in general. you have no proof to back urself up ? if you just relaying on some bankrupt accusation, which is total scrap. 

lol, lol you don't call this proof of Nilesh Nair's personal bankruptcy??

http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html

As stated why does the sole director of GES HK, that is supposedly a multi-international company with supposed contracts that are supposedly worth millions declare himself bankrupt??

I don't believe in scams so why would I want to scam anybody?
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August 23, 2014, 08:04:04 AM
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"



YES he did say this on the last forum.

Prove it! I have said from the outset this was a scam. Why was a poll done on me??? Haven't seen any polls done on people who are supporters of the scam!!!
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.

How much Uro do you own?

Silly question don't you think especially since I have repeatedly said this is a scam.

the ones that scream scam, are the biggest scammers in general. you have no proof to back urself up ? if you just relaying on some bankrupt accusation, which is total scrap. 

lol, lol you don't call this proof of Nilesh Nair's personal bankruptcy??

http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html

As stated why does the sole director of GES HK, that is supposedly a multi-international company with supposed contracts that are supposedly worth millions declare himself bankrupt??

I don't believe in scams so why would I want to scam anybody?

common sense,  if someone is bankrupt they can not be a director or ceo of another company?    truthful is not very truthful
the documents are Australian and the GES company is Hong Kong
you got nothing truthful, but hot air .  sometimes use common sense, it goes further
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It's going down fast!!

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-URO

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I wonder where their Mill is located
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truthful did You not mention prior that "you were only doing the fud to buy in cheaper?"


That seems unlikely, he's gone in so far now that the coin very well could not pick up. If he's trying to pick up cheap coins, he's overdoing it.

I was accused of being a liar, yet no one has refuted what I've stated from credible sources.
Yet you lie.

How much Uro do you own?

Silly question don't you think especially since I have repeatedly said this is a scam.

the ones that scream scam, are the biggest scammers in general. you have no proof to back urself up ? if you just relaying on some bankrupt accusation, which is total scrap. 

lol, lol you don't call this proof of Nilesh Nair's personal bankruptcy??

http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html

As stated why does the sole director of GES HK, that is supposedly a multi-international company with supposed contracts that are supposedly worth millions declare himself bankrupt??

I don't believe in scams so why would I want to scam anybody?

common sense,  if someone is bankrupt they can not be a director or ceo of another company?    truthful is not very truthful
the documents are Australian and the GES company is Hong Kong
you got nothing truthful, but hot air .  sometimes use common sense, it goes further

What you said is right. A bankrupt can't be a director of a company.
http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Bankruptcy+and+Personal+Insolvency+Agreements?openDocument

This site states

What happens to me as a director, alternate director or secretary if I am bankrupt or subject to a personal insolvency agreement under Part X of the Bankruptcy Act 1966?

Under the Corporations Act 2001 (Corporations Act), if you;
are an undischarged bankrupt; or
have entered into a personal insolvency agreement under Part X of the Bankruptcy Act 1966 (Bankruptcy Act) or a similar law of an external Territory or a foreign country and the terms of the agreement have not been fully complied with,
you are automatically disqualified from managing corporations and cease to be a director, alternate director or secretary of a company unless you have been given leave by the Court to manage corporations.


Nilesh Nair is not the director of GES AU as verified by this

http://www.scribd.com/doc/234257362/373735303733393837343

He is the sole director of GES HK. Doesn't it matter to you that he would have no money to run this company??
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August 23, 2014, 08:24:04 AM
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Look at these

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bittrex/urobtc

https://cryptrader.com/charts/bittrex/uro/btc
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August 23, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
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Rather put your energy in finding this.

Here ONE question to all the internet detectives

For now - Just forget about GES or Rivaa or any other company.

We start with only IPL (Indian Government Body).

Here is one ship Mega Star http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STAR/_:eadf3c1765fb2bf81175b7063305442f which carried Urea for IPL - confirmation here http://www.eepcindia.org/bulletin/b20140804/PORTS3116.pdf

Please take it as a challenge - Can you please find out :

1.Which Indian company/importer got this ship full of urea for IPL and
2.which exporter/company got this deal arranged for that Indian Importer from Iran. (don't worry about finding out which Iranian urea refinery it came from)


Once you have 2 very simple answers to my 2 very simple questions, please come back and share your detective work with me.

Looking forwards to hear from you soon.

This shouldn't take very long.

@BUMP

The sad part in this age is - none of the spammers in this thread even touched it!!! Just whizzed passed as if it wasn't there.

Come on peeps, show me what ya got. And if you don't have simple answer to this, please don't bother to spam here.

Thanks

Indian company is Rivaa, vessel is mega star stated it is carrying urea for india, IPL Port
Iran company mobasherin - GES secures Iranian urea trading partnership with Mobasherin (1st June 2014)
http://greenearthsystems.com.au/iranian-urea/
https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/500273237066932227

Well I was looking for a third party proof rather than ges tweets.

I am sure there must b a way to find out from other reliable sources who all were involved in the deal relating urea Onboard MEGA STAR.

Thats why i invited Internet detectives Smiley

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August 23, 2014, 12:16:28 PM
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He is the sole director of GES HK. Doesn't it matter to you that he would have no money to run this company??
He does not need money to run the company. The company has money to run itself. Nilesh does not equal the company. You are making Nilesh more important for the well-being of the company than he in fact might be. Do we know if and how many shares he owns in the company? We don't. We only know that the company pays his salary. So it might be that you are building your conspiracy theories around something that you don't know.
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He is the sole director of GES HK. Doesn't it matter to you that he would have no money to run this company??
He does not need money to run the company. The company has money to run itself. Nilesh does not equal the company. You are making Nilesh more important for the well-being of the company than he in fact might be. Do we know if and how many shares he owns in the company? We don't. We only know that the company pays his salary. So it might be that you are building your conspiracy theories around something that you don't know.

Look at this. It will answer your questions.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/235214148/PS300016750373-01-Annual-Financials-2013-Amended

Who owns the company?
Who would be retaining the profits?
Not hard to answer those questions from the document.
No other shareholders.
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August 23, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
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Rather put your energy in finding this.

Here ONE question to all the internet detectives

For now - Just forget about GES or Rivaa or any other company.

We start with only IPL (Indian Government Body).

Here is one ship Mega Star http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STAR/_:eadf3c1765fb2bf81175b7063305442f which carried Urea for IPL - confirmation here http://www.eepcindia.org/bulletin/b20140804/PORTS3116.pdf

Please take it as a challenge - Can you please find out :

1.Which Indian company/importer got this ship full of urea for IPL and
2.which exporter/company got this deal arranged for that Indian Importer from Iran. (don't worry about finding out which Iranian urea refinery it came from)


Once you have 2 very simple answers to my 2 very simple questions, please come back and share your detective work with me.

Looking forwards to hear from you soon.

This shouldn't take very long.

@BUMP

The sad part in this age is - none of the spammers in this thread even touched it!!! Just whizzed passed as if it wasn't there.

Come on peeps, show me what ya got. And if you don't have simple answer to this, please don't bother to spam here.

Thanks

Indian company is Rivaa, vessel is mega star stated it is carrying urea for india, IPL Port
Iran company mobasherin - GES secures Iranian urea trading partnership with Mobasherin (1st June 2014)
http://greenearthsystems.com.au/iranian-urea/
https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/500273237066932227

Well I was looking for a third party proof rather than ges tweets.

I am sure there must b a way to find out from other reliable sources who all were involved in the deal relating urea Onboard MEGA STAR.

Thats why i invited Internet detectives Smiley

Well- this search is complete.

MEGA STAR did not carry urea for IPL instead it was a STC urea http://www.stc.gov.in
http://www.argusmedia.com/fertilizer/~/media/files/pdfs/samples/argus-fmb-nitrogen.ashx  - page 6
http://www.stc.gov.in/Templates/UI/Views/OpenPDF.aspx?id=UREA11062014.pdf

So the search continues for the ship-

Next contestant is DEEP TRUE
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/572524210/vessel:DEEP_TRUE

We have to wait and see

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your researches are to prove that URO is legit or not?

I know why your pray will never be answered!
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