bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game

[BoatDreams]

So you recommend Coinbase  to get bitcoins to use gambling?  Isn't there a fair chance Coinbase will close your account if you use it towards gambling? 

Bustabit is really gambling site If you do not have any bitcoins, we can recommend Coinbase if you are in the US although the registration process is lengthy. Another great option is LocalBitcoins.com, which lists traders in your area willing to sell or buy bitcoins. You can also search online to see if there are any bitcoin ATMs near you. And remember, you can withdraw directly to the bitcoin address on your account.

[DarkDays]

So you recommend Coinbase  to get bitcoins to use gambling?  Isn't there a fair chance Coinbase will close your account if you use it towards gambling? 

Bustabit is really gambling site If you do not have any bitcoins, we can recommend Coinbase if you are in the US although the registration process is lengthy. Another great option is LocalBitcoins.com, which lists traders in your area willing to sell or buy bitcoins. You can also search online to see if there are any bitcoin ATMs near you. And remember, you can withdraw directly to the bitcoin address on your account.

As long as you are smart about it and use a middle wallet (which you should be doing for everything so you can control your own bitcoins), Coinbase will have no idea what you're doing with your coins.

[RHavar]

So you recommend Coinbase  to get bitcoins to use gambling?  Isn't there a fair chance Coinbase will close your account if you use it towards gambling?

I don't recommend violating anyones terms of use -- but speaking purely about bustabit privacy features:  Bustabit's uses a custom coin selection for deposits/withdrawals that makes it considerably harder for anyone to know if you're using bustaibit or not. It's not fantastic, but it's decent.

In the next release though, it's going to get pretty damn good.   Our new algorithm (that has like >1 month of development time put into it, and uses a full on cutting edge constraint optimizer) will make it very hard for anyone to distinguish a bustabit address from any other. (although there's still a bit of things I need to figure out, like sending transactions over tor incase there's a spy node recording that I'm the probable origin of the transaction)

[vbond]

So you recommend Coinbase  to get bitcoins to use gambling?  Isn't there a fair chance Coinbase will close your account if you use it towards gambling?

I don't recommend violating anyones terms of use -- but speaking purely about bustabit privacy features:  Bustabit's uses a custom coin selection for deposits/withdrawals that makes it considerably harder for anyone to know if you're using bustaibit or not. It's not fantastic, but it's decent.

In the next release though, it's going to get pretty damn good.   Our new algorithm (that has like >1 month of development time put into it, and uses a full on cutting edge constraint optimizer) will make it very hard for anyone to distinguish a bustabit address from any other. (although there's still a bit of things I need to figure out, like sending transactions over tor incase there's a spy node recording that I'm the probable origin of the transaction)

I'm warning you! Do not give your money to this rascal.SCAM.

[Lionidas]

So you recommend Coinbase  to get bitcoins to use gambling?  Isn't there a fair chance Coinbase will close your account if you use it towards gambling?

I don't recommend violating anyones terms of use -- but speaking purely about bustabit privacy features:  Bustabit's uses a custom coin selection for deposits/withdrawals that makes it considerably harder for anyone to know if you're using bustaibit or not. It's not fantastic, but it's decent.

In the next release though, it's going to get pretty damn good.   Our new algorithm (that has like >1 month of development time put into it, and uses a full on cutting edge constraint optimizer) will make it very hard for anyone to distinguish a bustabit address from any other. (although there's still a bit of things I need to figure out, like sending transactions over tor incase there's a spy node recording that I'm the probable origin of the transaction)

I'm warning you! Do not give your money to this rascal.SCAM.

Why do you call him and his site these things? 

He seems to be using innovative things to not violate any terms of conditions in sending bitcoins to his site.
It is not against the law to do that is it?

Unless you just lost a whole lot of bitcoin there then I don't see the point in your post
really.

[vbond]

I'm warning you! Do not give your money to this rascal.SCAM.
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Why do you call him and his site these things? 

He seems to be using innovative things to not violate any terms of conditions in sending bitcoins to his site.
It is not against the law to do that is it?

Unless you just lost a whole lot of bitcoin there then I don't see the point in your post
really.
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You go and look at the game. All red. Can he pay you for positive messages?

[actmyname]

You go and look at the game. All red. Can he pay you for positive messages?

Anecdotal evidence + cherry picking. Look at provably fair. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922898.0]

Selection bias gets you nowhere.

[vbond]

You go and look at the game. All red. Can he pay you for positive messages?

Anecdotal evidence + cherry picking. Look at provably fair. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922898.0]

Selection bias gets you nowhere.

You do not understand me? I'm saying that bustabit scam.Earlier there was an average coefficient of 1.97 and now 1.79.

[actmyname]

You go and look at the game. All red. Can he pay you for positive messages?

Anecdotal evidence + cherry picking. Look at provably fair. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922898.0]

Selection bias gets you nowhere.

You do not understand me? I'm saying that bustabit scam.

You're saying the game is "all red". I'm assuming you're implying that bustabit is rigging the results of the games. I also tuned in to see a lot of people complaining in chat about the game never reaching >=100x in over 400 games, but that's purely variance.


Learn how luck works, how provably fair works, and how to stay tilt-proof. 

[vbond]

You go and look at the game. All red. Can he pay you for positive messages?

Anecdotal evidence + cherry picking. Look at provably fair. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922898.0]

Selection bias gets you nowhere.

You do not understand me? I'm saying that bustabit scam.

You're saying the game is "all red". I'm assuming you're implying that bustabit is rigging the results of the games. I also tuned in to see a lot of people complaining in chat about the game never reaching >=100x in over 400 games, but that's purely variance.




Learn how luck works, how provably fair works, and how to stay tilt-proof.  

Want to lose your money then play. Lead from here money quickly. My advice.

[SulemanSamf]

This site is designed top make first profits and after that you will losses All of your money so be careful guys thanks me later

[Ghris]

Hahaha the messages about scam this, scam that never get old. I would trust Ryan with my money, house, car and first born baby.
If you can't afford to lose, don't gamble.

[vbond]

Hahaha the messages about scam this, scam that never get old. I would trust Ryan with my money, house, car and first born baby.
If you can't afford to lose, don't gamble.

He well fucks us. Here is his Bitcoin Address  https://blockchain.info/en/address/15zd7BLx5DuqkLMZafgUGp8H9TrnEJJMPc
He traced a transaction.

[actmyname]

He well fucks us. Here is his Bitcoin Address  https://blockchain.info/en/address/15zd7BLx5DuqkLMZafgUGp8H9TrnEJJMPc
He traced a transaction.

1) show proof this is connected to Ryan
2) show proof this has anything to do with a scam

Conclusive evidence will get you the attention you seek. Posting a random address with a large sum of bitcoins does not.

[vbond]

He well fucks us. Here is his Bitcoin Address  https://blockchain.info/en/address/15zd7BLx5DuqkLMZafgUGp8H9TrnEJJMPc
He traced a transaction.

1) show proof this is connected to Ryan
2) show proof this has anything to do with a scam

Conclusive evidence will get you the attention you seek. Posting a random address with a large sum of bitcoins does not.

I followed my deposit.And I wonder if Ryan pays the tax?

[actmyname]

I followed my deposit.And I wonder if Ryan pays the tax?

You could have followed any possible chain of transactions leading to random individuals. What if this address was actually part of an exchange?

Check this out: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0876845096bd202a?from_address=1Ji8t814jfxKhYw3vy9KJC9JxcYb18yWne

This wallet was the source of the final address.Seems like at the end of everything they're funded by the MtGoxAndOthers wallet
By the way, you still haven't shown proof of linkage.

[vbond]

I followed my deposit.And I wonder if Ryan pays the tax?

You could have followed any possible chain of transactions leading to random individuals. What if this address was actually part of an exchange?

Check this out: https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0876845096bd202a?from_address=1Ji8t814jfxKhYw3vy9KJC9JxcYb18yWne

This wallet was the source of the final address.Seems like at the end of everything they're funded by the MtGoxAndOthers wallet
By the way, you still haven't shown proof of linkage.

My escrow address 13kzAKZrjHvDnuAXBDQmvoYT5kpqJGZYVB

https://blockchain.info/tx/99c32fd92c16701af31141db1543ee728855211df5bf5818309ad304f619708d
https://blockchain.info/tx/c2e84655dcb43f36972c08933b01f01d213add8a714b06900dcf2a9ec243b496
https://blockchain.info/tx/50540b5d6ca9cbe924055e8e3e393dc72648864dc03332cba0092c45200672e1
https://blockchain.info/tx/50540b5d6ca9cbe924055e8e3e393dc72648864dc03332cba0092c45200672e1
Finish https://blockchain.info/address/15zd7BLx5DuqkLMZafgUGp8H9TrnEJJMPc

[actmyname]

My escrow address 13kzAKZrjHvDnuAXBDQmvoYT5kpqJGZYVB
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Your first address.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/MtGoxAndOthers?
from_address=13kzAKZrjHvDnuAXBDQmvoYT5kpqJGZYVB

Discussion on this wallet:

walletexplorer.com says it is "MtGoxAndOthers" wallet :
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/MtGoxAndOthers?from_address=1GX28yLjVWux7ws4UQ9FB4MnLH4UKTPK2z

It seems to be tainted with coins from Mt Gox. It could be some of the stolen BTC, though even if it is I doubt the current owner has any idea.

This is not true. The "wallet" MtGoxAndOthers on walletexplorer.com is essentially a catch all wallet for addresses that are linked together from coinjoin-like transactions. As more and more 'wallets' use coinjoin like services they will most likely be linked to that wallet.

Walletexplorer.com really should use some kind of filtering to attempt to exclude coinjoin-like transactions when spend linking addresses together.

The address appears to be likely either belonging to F2Pool, or a miner who mines on F2Pool, however IMO the chances are probably greater that it belongs to the former considering that many inputs that it spends are roughly 25 BTC (the likely block reward that f2pool receives from finding blocks) and that it spends the entire amount of inputs associated with the address (e.g. does not give change back to itself, and spends multiple inputs), yet it receives multiple transactions from what is likely f2pool, and appears to spend funds to a large number of addresses, likely to their miners.

Also, show a screenshot of that address on bustabit's site, please.


(at the end of this, where is the proof of scam? the bitcoins lead somewhere but that doesn't mean anything; this could have easily been a mixed tx)

I don't understand your point. Was your deposit not credited?

[BTCevo]

You go and look at the game. All red. Can he pay you for positive messages?

Anecdotal evidence + cherry picking. Look at provably fair. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922898.0]

Selection bias gets you nowhere.

You do not understand me? I'm saying that bustabit scam.

You're saying the game is "all red". I'm assuming you're implying that bustabit is rigging the results of the games. I also tuned in to see a lot of people complaining in chat about the game never reaching >=100x in over 400 games, but that's purely variance.




Learn how luck works, how provably fair works, and how to stay tilt-proof.  

Want to lose your money then play. Lead from here money quickly. My advice.

Do you got any proof? I believe there are so many winners here and that is not wrong about what you called they scam, just because you hit all reds does not mean they cheat you. All about this thing is just variance and house edge which is in a long run you will lose for sure. Last night I just saw so many greens and mostly that is aorund 10.xx before crash. So what do you called this?

[RHavar]

You do not understand me? I'm saying that bustabit scam.Earlier there was an average coefficient of 1.97 and now 1.79.

This really just is variance. The expected median over a long period of time would be ~1.97x, but over any shorter period of time will vary greatly. This is the same with all casinos, and just random numbers in general.

If you suspect you've been cheated, you need to verify the games -- and you'll be able to definitively check if it's just bad luck or you've indeed been cheated.


Regarding the coin analysis, the reason walletexplorer shows bustabit deposit addresses as "MtGoxAndOthers" is because I've imported thousands of bustabit addresses into joinmarket and done hundreds of coin joins with other people (primarily for the purposes of utxo consolidation).