bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game

[dooglus]

Lol so we're looking at ~175 days of downloading if we want 3mm games

Yes, but there have been 3.45 million games, so you're looking at an even 200 days.

I wonder if Ryan would be prepared to make a torrent of old .json files to reduce load on his server.

[Lanzador]

Lol so we're looking at ~175 days of downloading if we want 3mm games

Yes, but there have been 3.45 million games, so you're looking at an even 200 days.

I wonder if Ryan would be prepared to make a torrent of old .json files to reduce load on his server.

I'd seed that

[joksim299]

A big welcome to the latest member of the exclusive (and often ephemeral) >100 BTC net profit club:

Is he same Chelashin who won over 100BTC at PocketDice?

[joksim299]

Is he same Chelashin who won over 100BTC at PocketDice?

No idea, really. I've actually never chatted with him yet =)

But most gamblers like to use the same style of gambling no matter what site they're on. Did he martingale his way up on PocketDice?

I know for him from this scam accusation against PD, but they paid him in the end.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1620544.0

[ctlaltdefeat]

Nice site, excellent idea!

I'd really like to see code for as much of the game as possible, because the current explanation is ambiguous at times (or at least, unclear).

Examples of things that aren't clear to me:

1) In the "What is the bonus?" section in the FAQ, what happens when the 100 bit player is the only player to cash out before bust? On the one hand, the explanation in the section claims the bonus rewarded to this player is 2.5 bits. On the other hand, it is claimed in another section that the entire bonus pool is always distributed.
2) Players A,B,C stake 100 bits each. The three of them cash out at the exact same multiplier (say via script). Once again, the "What is the bonus?" section in the FAQ does not adequately explain who gets what bonus. It seems intuitive that each would receive a bit. Now what happens if A instead staked 101 bits, and once again they all cashed out at the same multiplier? Does A now receive the entire bonus?
3) In the game itself, what does the bonus % column indicate?

[ctlaltdefeat]

Nice site, excellent idea!

I'd really like to see code for as much of the game as possible, because the current explanation is ambiguous at times (or at least, unclear).

Examples of things that aren't clear to me:

1) In the "What is the bonus?" section in the FAQ, what happens when the 100 bit player is the only player to cash out before bust? On the one hand, the explanation in the section claims the bonus rewarded to this player is 2.5 bits. On the other hand, it is claimed in another section that the entire bonus pool is always distributed.

The bonus pool is *always* given out on every single game (where the bust isn't 0x). If there's money left over after giving it to people who have cashed out, it is just equally divided amongst the remaining players based on their wager

2) Players A,B,C stake 100 bits each. The three of them cash out at the exact same multiplier (say via script). Once again, the "What is the bonus?" section in the FAQ does not adequately explain who gets what bonus. It seems intuitive that each would receive a bit.

Yeah, if two people cash out at the same multiplier they are given the same amount of bonuses.

Now what happens if A instead staked 101 bits, and once again they all cashed out at the same multiplier? Does A now receive the entire bonus?

They would each be given exactly 1% of what they wagered. Which means B and C would get 1 bit, and A would get 1.01 bits.

3) In the game itself, what does the bonus % column indicate?

The amount of bonus they will get as a % of their wager

Somehow I'm even more confused now. The fact that "if there's money left over after giving it to people who have cashed out, it is just equally divided amongst the remaining players based on their wager" doesn't appear to be mentioned anywhere, and "equally divided amongst the remaining players based on their wager" seems like an oxymoron to me.

The underlying issue is that I can't seem to extrapolate the general method from these examples.

Would you care to address the general case, which I have outlined below (as I understand it)?

[ctlaltdefeat]

Thanks, that clarifies it.

Didn't realise the entire game was open source

[dooglus]

Didn't realise the entire game was open source

I'm not sure it is any more, but an old version of the source is available. I think some anti-spam or anti-DDoS measures were added "in secret" to make it harder for attackers to circumvent them.

[oxygen88]

Wow chelashin again winning another 100 BTC from this site, this guy is rich just from gambling, amazing

[shulio]

Wow chelashin again winning another 100 BTC from this site, this guy is rich just from gambling, amazing

https://www.bustabit.com/game/3455956. That game was what makes him getting over 100 btc in profit again. Im kinda not knowing this guy but he seems to be a very highroller, is there any references to where I can check his other status in another gambling site except bustabit? Well the guy is rich and not that it really matters anyway

[Zenzolina]

Thats nothing. Today guy went 1btc on 20x cashout lol

[rfisher1968]

If the hash of each game is made from a hash from reverse chain + hash of most recent block found hashed. How can I verify that you are using the correct hash from the chain and hash of the most recent block?

[rfisher1968]

I did read that, I guess I missed the clientseed being a constant. Is this the clientseed: 000000000000000012e8c0efdff2b8f67282e211749cc5530bd6e709f70279e1

If the hash of each game is made from a hash from reverse chain + hash of most recent block found hashed. How can I verify that you are using the correct hash from the chain and hash of the most recent block?

Here's the thread for the provably fair: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=922898.0

which (imo) does a good job of explaining how it works.


Also it does not use the hash from the most recently found bitcoin block, as that would be subject to a whole host of problems (timing issues, forks, difficult to verify, etc.). So the "client seed" is always the exact same bitcoin block (which was decided before we started the provably fair, but after we had already committed to a particular hash chain). You can treat it as a hardcoded constant, and check the "seeding event" to see how we fairly came upon it.

[YAYOBROBRO]

Here in a few i will me commenting on my experience here!!

[YAYOBROBRO]

Here in a few i will me commenting on my experience here!!

You will find I don't respond well to blackmail. But I'm happy to go through that song and dance if you want to waste both of our time.

Umm i think you have this a little wrong. Also, i emailed you about the situation im just waiting your reply. I said i would leave my feedback earlier just didnt have the time. But wow OK.

[YAYOBROBRO]

Umm i think you have this a little wrong. Also, i emailed you about the situation im just waiting your reply. I said i would leave my feedback.

Ah, I see. I some how got the mistaken impression that you were going to leave a bad review/feedback if I didn't give you money. Sorry about the confusion.

No but, i believe the situation that happen and with the screenshots and everything showing you that i couldn't even cancel a bet and it still betted my money....never mind just please check you email.

[marcuslong]

Umm i think you have this a little wrong. Also, i emailed you about the situation im just waiting your reply. I said i would leave my feedback.

Ah, I see. I some how got the mistaken impression that you were going to leave a bad review/feedback if I didn't give you money. Sorry about the confusion.

No but, i believe the situation that happen and with the screenshots and everything showing you that i couldn't even cancel a bet and it still betted my money....never mind just please check you email.

Never encountered any problem with bustabit. One of the few sites that I trust. Also, to gamble here, you have the tendency to lose and win.

[YAYOBROBRO]

Umm i think you have this a little wrong. Also, i emailed you about the situation im just waiting your reply. I said i would leave my feedback.

Ah, I see. I some how got the mistaken impression that you were going to leave a bad review/feedback if I didn't give you money. Sorry about the confusion.

No but, i believe the situation that happen and with the screenshots and everything showing you that i couldn't even cancel a bet and it still betted my money....never mind just please check you email.

Never encountered any problem with bustabit. One of the few sites that I trust. Also, to gamble here, you have the tendency to lose and win.

I thought it was decent but im still waiting for his reply.

[YAYOBROBRO]

No but, i believe the situation that happen and with the screenshots and everything showing you that i couldn't even cancel a bet and it still betted my money....never mind just please check you email.

As I've explained, I've carefully gone over the logs and the server behaved exactly as expected. While I'd love to have the margins to hand out money, bustabit operates on one of (or the?) lowest margins in the business and it simply isn't economically viable for me to refund losing bets. That is unfortunately non-negotiable and final, even if it means I get a bad review here and reddit.

IT WAS NOT A LOOSING BET IT WAS A LAG IN YOUR SERVER DONT SAY REFUNDING A LOOSING BET!

I did not have the opportunity to cancel a bet nor stop it.

I mean i sent you the photos Ryan Harvar. I proved it wouldn't let cancel a bet 2 bets before the last one also timed out and it even skipped 2 bets before placing another bet then connection lost. I mean i showed you were the screen frooze and i couldn't stop a bet. I had time to take 2 screens shots of it with the same numbers come on now!! for something to be blackmail some 1 must have did something wrong. I didn't want to take to the forum Ryan i just want my email and the right thing done. I can accept losses i mean you seen that on my accounts but im not willing to accept a issue that was with your server costing me to have invalid loses. And as stated by your own buddy when disconnected it should have immediately stopped and it didn't. I did not cash me out. He said you have a problem with the delay being off and he helped you with it. So im not sure why you are not trying to be honestly and refund the 52k bits and part ways. Thats just wrong. Any site would make it right on there behalf. Especially if the proof is in the basket. I sent you pictures i sent the proof what more did i need ryan?

[carmenullery]

No but, i believe the situation that happen and with the screenshots and everything showing you that i couldn't even cancel a bet and it still betted my money....never mind just please check you email.

As I've explained, I've carefully gone over the logs and the server behaved exactly as expected. While I'd love to have the margins to hand out money, bustabit operates on one of (or the?) lowest margins in the business and it simply isn't economically viable for me to refund losing bets. That is unfortunately non-negotiable and final, even if it means I get a bad review here and reddit.

IT WAS NOT A LOOSING BET IT WAS A LAG IN YOUR SERVER DONT SAY REFUNDING A LOOSING BET!

I did not have the opportunity to cancel a bet nor stop it.

I mean i sent you the photos Ryan Harvar. I proved it wouldn't let cancel a bet 2 bets before the last one also timed out and it even skipped 2 bets before placing another bet then connection lost. I mean i showed you were the screen frooze and i couldn't stop a bet. I had time to take 2 screens shots of it with the same numbers come on now!! for something to be blackmail some 1 must have did something wrong. I didn't want to take to the forum Ryan i just want my email and the right thing done. I can accept losses i mean you seen that on my accounts but im not willing to accept a issue that was with your server costing me to have invalid loses. And as stated by your own buddy when disconnected it should have immediately stopped and it didn't. I did not cash me out. He said you have a problem with the delay being off and he helped you with it. So im not sure why you are not trying to be honestly and refund the 52k bits and part ways. Thats just wrong. Any site would make it right on there behalf. Especially if the proof is in the basket. I sent you pictures i sent the proof what more did i need ryan?

funny thing is "rhavar"'s name isn't even ryan.
he is this user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310298 lol
he fake sold the site to himself haha

mexican cunt