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August 14, 2014, 12:02:55 AM
 #2161

we won't release the sourcecode because we want to avoid leaks. can someone post the business discussion of what actually occurred on the irc chat please?

How is the foundation to endorse such a service if they, as experienced developers, are unable to review what they are pushing to the public?

we have no idea who the foundation is? dont get us wrong we are not trying to be derrogtory but in the same moment people from this community are waigning from left to right with affiliations, initially we were contacted by an individual after prior contact the individual started slandering the coin. the exchange is ready and setup we are expecting a business negotiation here we gave everyone a chance to view the exchange and be involved. that was why the community had an IRC chat and we sent the appropriate information. we want to know what happened within these communications as we have no idea what was discussed.
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August 14, 2014, 12:11:00 AM
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we won't release the sourcecode because we want to avoid leaks. can someone post the business discussion of what actually occurred on the irc chat please?

How is the foundation to endorse such a service if they, as experienced developers, are unable to review what they are pushing to the public?

we have no idea who the foundation is? dont get us wrong we are not trying to be derrogtory but in the same moment people from this community are waigning from left to right with affiliations, initially we were contacted by an individual after prior contact the individual started slandering the coin. the exchange is ready and setup we are expecting a business negotiation here we gave everyone a chance to view the exchange and be involved. that was why the community had an IRC chat and we sent the appropriate information. we want to know what happened within these communications as we have no idea what was discussed.

Then kindly give the code to jeff who is the formal PR for Voot. Things will not progress until there is a review of the code.

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August 14, 2014, 12:15:51 AM
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well not everyone was present at this irc meeting
and i for one and am not comfortable with the idea that a bunch
of people just got tohether and voted for something.
no doubt  there were peopple in there from other exchanges
voting without even being voot holders.

This needs to be done with a lot more transparency
than it is being done already.
FUrther all those put up for voting should be confirmed voot holders
and have the appropriate bussiness acumen to do something like this.

So a developer must be a proven developer, a pr person must habe experience
to doing PR  ect.

Considering I can tell from the tones of whats being said that smoke are giving
the impression that they were either not paid in full or rather came to some
other agreemenrt with ms collec as to the exchange

this needs to be out in the open

either this coin is going to begin acting like a proper investment vehicle
and run as a proper bussiness or we can all just pack up and go home
as this community has already raised a heck of a lot of funds to get things
done

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August 14, 2014, 12:17:30 AM
 #2164

well not everyone was present at this irc meeting
and i for one and am not comfortable with the idea that a bunch
of people just got tohether and voted for something.
no doubt  there were peopple in there from other exchanges
voting without even being voot holders.

This needs to be done with a lot more transparency
than it is being done already.
FUrther all those put up for voting should be confirmed voot holders
and have the appropriate bussiness acumen to do something like this.

So a developer must be a proven developer, a pr person must habe experience
to doing PR  ect.

Considering I can tell from the tones of whats being said that smoke are giving
the impression that they were either not paid in full or rather came to some
other agreemenrt with ms collec as to the exchange

this needs to be out in the open

either this coin is going to begin acting like a proper investment vehicle
and run as a proper bussiness or we can all just pack up and go home
as this community has already raised a heck of a lot of funds to get things
done

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August 14, 2014, 12:27:48 AM
 #2165

IF this foundation and the smoke team want things done correctly

then we had better start acting like we know what we are doing

and a vote at an irc meeting suddenly held just not good enough.

I Propose that if you want to be part of the voot foundation

that you first give your name to the nominated transistory PR

person and your qualifications for the position you would like to fill

After this is done, a proper meeting should take place or poll held

where we the voot holders can vote in who we want to represent voot.

At that point discussions with smoke and the hand over the exchange can then take place
 in full transparency with everyone in full knowledge of what is going on.

Anything less than this and you are just playing around with my time and money

so first bussiness is who is the transistory pr, i put jefferson forward as

he has been doing an adeqaute job already.


2nd he is to prepare a roll of foundation positions that are to be filled

if he requires help with this then he should ask the community

when this has been accomplished then a public meeting should take place at whihc point

all appropriate voot holders who have a stake in this coin and wish to put themselves forward

for the positoin can do so and their experience.

this can be easily be decided by a simple poll vote for the positions by the community

After that the elected foundation members can eneter negotiation with smoke and carry on forwards

its rather simple really

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August 14, 2014, 12:46:54 AM
 #2166

As i understand it that exchange belongs to the voot community we paid for it from funds we raised
and thats not in question as far as i can tell only how it will be run
Whihc in my opinion the properly and duly elected voot foundation members whoever they may be
can take that decision on our behalf.

We should all actually demand clarity on this.
how much did the exchange cost us already
as for the smoke team having something to do with its
operation I can see a clear benefit to keeping them involved since they created the exchange
and therefore know how it functions already
unless they have something completlely different in mind.

Forking a coin is only neccessary if the community does not have possession of the coin
as i understand it this will be given to the foundation or am i wrong?


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August 14, 2014, 12:54:40 AM
 #2167

anyway regardless these are only my suggestions
and they would be the normal way one would proceed
with many people involved.

There are obviously other points of view out there
for discussion.

I am in no way myself looking for any position but to try
and sort this mess out quickly and effectivley without
much more procrastination.

Jefferson should address voot community as to how much
the exchange has cost us, and get these foundation roles
sorted out for voting ASAP.

Who gets voted in after that is not for me to say but for my 1
vote on each position.

After whihc the foundation can have a fair aduly elected
mandate from the voot community to move forward in whichever
way is best for us all as a whole.

This will also allow minimal disruption form fudders and the other exchanges from
interfering as they will have no say after this has been done.

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August 14, 2014, 01:13:19 AM
 #2168

Before we post an official poll, here are some of the options that were mentioned to us in private for the community to review:

How should VOOT proceed if we are unable to reach an agreement with SMOKE for acquiring the exchange?

* Let them have it - there are other more important features VOOT should focus their efforts on
* Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven, with a coin-swap through Bittrex.
* Start a donation fund for another developer to work on an exchange
* Huh

The above poll will go live at 12AM EST (3 hours from now) if there are not any community agreed upon modifications.

This poll is a last-resort measure for the exchange. The outcome of the poll may not be relevant if we cannot reach an agreement.

sovie, I really appreciate you trying to help, and I agree with most of what you say. It is nice to have some constructive criticism here for a change. Once we establish which direction the coin is to move in, VOOT Foundation will be comprised of official roles, and you will have your chance to review this and all future VOOT decisions.

FIne keep the poll open for at least minimum 24hrs so everyone gets a chance to have their say or their whine as the case may be
after that everyone should be on the smae page of where we are all going together!

I'm off to sleep 

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August 14, 2014, 01:44:47 AM
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For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.

I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.

In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.

We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.

All the best!




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August 14, 2014, 01:49:58 AM
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For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.

I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.

In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.

We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.

All the best!





bla bla bla bla the price hasnt stop plumbeting since weeks ago

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August 14, 2014, 01:53:38 AM
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Before we post an official poll, here are some of the options that were mentioned to us in private for the community to review:

How should VOOT proceed if we are unable to reach an agreement with SMOKE for acquiring the exchange?

* Let them have it - there are other more important features VOOT should focus their efforts on
* Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven, with a coin-swap through Bittrex.
* Start a donation fund for another developer to work on an exchange
* Huh

The above poll will go live at 12AM EST (3 hours from now) if there are not any community agreed upon modifications.

This poll is a last-resort measure for the exchange. The outcome of the poll may not be relevant if we cannot reach an agreement.

sovie, I really appreciate you trying to help, and I agree with most of what you say. It is nice to have some constructive criticism here for a change. Once we establish which direction the coin is to move in, VOOT Foundation will be comprised of official roles, and you will have your chance to review this and all future VOOT decisions.


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August 14, 2014, 01:56:11 AM
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Wow i go shopping and clean the house and BAM i miss a lot lol.

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Wow i go shopping and clean the house and BAM i miss a lot lol.

There are robots for that too Tongue (cleaning)

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Wow i go shopping and clean the house and BAM i miss a lot lol.

There are robots for that too Tongue (cleaning)


hahaha one day. one day.... Wink

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August 14, 2014, 02:00:27 AM
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For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.

I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.

In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.

We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.

All the best!





bla bla bla bla the price hasnt stop plumbeting since weeks ago

that VF is only days old...  wrong target
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August 14, 2014, 02:11:54 AM
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IF this foundation and the smoke team want things done correctly

then we had better start acting like we know what we are doing

and a vote at an irc meeting suddenly held just not good enough.

I Propose that if you want to be part of the voot foundation

that you first give your name to the nominated transistory PR

person and your qualifications for the position you would like to fill

After this is done, a proper meeting should take place or poll held

where we the voot holders can vote in who we want to represent voot.

At that point discussions with smoke and the hand over the exchange can then take place
 in full transparency with everyone in full knowledge of what is going on.

Anything less than this and you are just playing around with my time and money

so first bussiness is who is the transistory pr, i put jefferson forward as

he has been doing an adeqaute job already.


2nd he is to prepare a roll of foundation positions that are to be filled

if he requires help with this then he should ask the community

when this has been accomplished then a public meeting should take place at whihc point

all appropriate voot holders who have a stake in this coin and wish to put themselves forward

for the positoin can do so and their experience.

this can be easily be decided by a simple poll vote for the positions by the community

After that the elected foundation members can eneter negotiation with smoke and carry on forwards

its rather simple really
+1
but sadly, i don't see that happening.
foundation is already created. its members would not give up the power they feel belongs to them.
it is very clear by the response given by axedcode: "...it is just a foundation which to build upon. We are looking for more talented individuals..."

p.s.

there was no ann for the meeting.
i am sure very selected few were told of this meeting on a particular day and time.
this whole thing stinks real bad especially when the coin is about to die.
i mean, does anyone of the "qualified" people actually have any working brain cells left upstairs?

the term community is thrown around very often. yet, the community wasn't told of this very important event.

out of over 1000 strong voot holders(i am going by address count) only a selected few decided on this very important feature, for themselves.

i have been a vooter from day one. that is to say i mined this coin as well.
i am just as much part of voot community then these selected few.
now they have the balls to say that the community voted them in.

not true at all.

i was not given the opportunity to be part of the discussion.

yes, damn right, i am pissed.

i say abolish the foundation as it is right now and start over.

make an official ann and let the community vote for each and every position there is to be in the foundation.
all current members gone unless all or some voted back in.

let every voot holder be counted.



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August 14, 2014, 02:19:27 AM
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Just for clarification: There is no VOOT Foundation leader. Myself, sncs, and 4 others are equally involved in forming the foundation. There will be no leader that has not been transparently decided upon by you. The ultimate leaders are everyone that wants this coin to move forward.

axedcode you are doing a good job and the same with other PR representatives, please community do not look at our posts with any malice we believe that the meeting was just a simple discussion about development it was conducted when we released the PR team is not trying to exclude you or silence you. they are doing a great job along with many other individuals.
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August 14, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
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This event happened as people were scrambling and it appeared an exchange would not be ready for the bounty deadline. This was not planned. It was decided upon at the spur of the moment by jefferson and everyone involved in the IRC channel during this time of panic. As said, this is only temporary. We needed to form a community bond in order to work together, instead of being fed lies passed down from the devs to the PR team, putting a lot of stress on PR and investors thinking they were lying. At the moment VOOT has no dev. What VOOT has is us working together.
my point of view is very simple.
personally, i don't care if "It was decided upon at the spur of the moment...".
you or any other so called voot foundation members can not speak on my behalf.

I DID NOT GET TO VOTE any one of you in.

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For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.

I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.

In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.

We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.

All the best!





I will need to quote my own post.

As axedcode is writing we have no official leader that's giving directions.  Sncs is more of a founder and has helped getting us organized.

Saw an earlier post where a guy was disappointed on how the whole foundation project came alive.
-Edit  and  you above

Well this is not something that have been planned, these are people who have been active during this storm and really care about Voot.
We all have different backgrounds and are working together for the best of Voot. Isn't that good enough?

We are not closing any doors, we are here, meet us in irc, send us questions, send ideas.
More people will be needed in the foundation.






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August 14, 2014, 02:52:44 AM
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This event happened as people were scrambling and it appeared an exchange would not be ready for the bounty deadline. This was not planned. It was decided upon at the spur of the moment by jefferson and everyone involved in the IRC channel during this time of panic. As said, this is only temporary. We needed to form a community bond in order to work together, instead of being fed lies passed down from the devs to the PR team, putting a lot of stress on PR and investors thinking they were lying. At the moment VOOT has no dev. What VOOT has is us working together.
my point of view is very simple.
personally, i don't care if "It was decided upon at the spur of the moment...".
you or any other so called voot foundation members can not speak on my behalf.

I DID NOT GET TO VOTE any one of you in.


I understand your point of view but we need to make everything clear

-MsCollec paid smoketeam for AnonEX and Cloud
-MsCollec called jefferson as PR man, jefferson recruited whale
-On IRC, MsCollec told that he don't want to be involved in voot anymore (correct me if i'm wrong) , but he paid smoketeam so I hope he can still help a bit to clarify the situation and help with the features he paid for

So who is legitimate in the story? Who got the keys? Seems that it's MsCollec...
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