[ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes

[stonehedge]

I guess they are the same person behind different accounts.

Not quite. More like different people with the same goal.

Apologies, was playing scrabble with my wife and will shortly be going to the Arsenal match.

I'll send Mr Spread a message when I get back. 

I only spend time on this thread because I see possible value in sharing developments and collaborating between SPR and DRK.  I'm very much one person with one account (go to Darkcoin.io if you want to check) and no negative intentions towards this coin.  Just because I haven't sent a message to Mr Spread about a possible exploit in the future of this coin within a few hours doesn't mean I'm trying to fuck with your coin 

I have no doubt it would be fixable if it is indeed an exploit.

Is there a Spreadcoin testnet?

[1714892262]

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[stonehedge]

The important thing is to have a dev that can code. If he can do that, then he can also change or adapt the code to things that will come up.

+1   It is the abilities of Mr Spread that drew my attention to this coin in the first place.

Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

[frontier8]

The important thing is to have a dev that can code. If he can do that, then he can also change or adapt the code to things that will come up.

+1   It is the abilities of Mr Spread that drew my attention to this coin in the first place.

Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

I also want to know how the the net hashrate are calculated.

[thelonecrouton]

Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

It should be possible to crawl the blockchain for which address has mined each block. I could probably script this if I could build a local block explorer... 

That may be as close as you're going to get though - just as it's impossible to assume true coin distribution via address as someone can have multiple wallets/addresses.

[thelonecrouton]

I also want to know how the the net hashrate are calculated.

Exactly the same way any BTC derived wallet does so. (I imagine, and don't ask me for the exact mechanics of that.  )

[MyFarm]

I believe I have found what could be a very serious problem with solo mining SPR and master nodes.

Best of luck when you get to that point.

Genuinely not intended as FUD. I think I know what Coins is talking about. Either Mr spread has plans to fix this problem already or the dev team haven't scrutinised the work that Kristov Atlas did for Darkcoin in the context of spreadcoin.

Does Spreadcoin have a testnet? Would be interested to take part in masternode testing.

It IS by definition FUD if the issue isn't communicated to the dev or the community.

There isn't a testnet yet.

I'll put a 300 SPR bounty on a miners hash chart.

[daddeo]

Another question I asked a few pages back...is there a way to show the top ten miners in a pie chart or something?  Would be interesting to know how many large farms are mining SpreadX11.

It should be possible to crawl the blockchain for which address has mined each block. I could probably script this if I could build a local block explorer... 

That may be as close as you're going to get though - just as it's impossible to assume true coin distribution via address as someone can have multiple wallets/addresses.

That may not be that easy either TLC. I've noticed that my own rig uses a different address for each block thus far. I'm throwing about 1.3 Mh at the network and the couple blocks I've found, each have a different addy. I never set up a dedicated addy for mining in the config file by the way.

[Mr. Spread]

If you know about how solo mining can affect masternodes then you can PM me or post it here. I haven't received any messages about it.

Regarding hashrate distribution chart, it was asked some time ago:

Also, are there any nethash analysis/distribution tools available, possible, in the pipeline?

Due to more decentralized nature it is harder to perform such analysis for SpreadCoin. You need to monitor which node will be the first to broadcast the block. For Bitcoin you can just connect to all major pools which is not a problem as they probably are running on a good servers. Since there are no pools in SpreadCoin you will need to connect to as many nodes as you can and still the fact that some node was the first to broadcast some block doesn't mean that this block was mined by this node, it may be just distributing block which was mined by node to which you are not connected. Many computers in internet are behind NAT or don't accept incoming connections for some other reasons, the only way to be connected to such nodes is if they will connect to you which may never happen.
This doesn't mean that it is impossible but hashrate distribution analysis may be less reliable than in cryptocurrencies with pools.
No such analysis is available yet.

You can try to search blockchain for the same mining addresses but by default each new block is mined on a different address.

[Mr. Spread]

I also want to know how the the net hashrate are calculated.

Divide the work required to generate last 120 blocks by the time interval it took to generate these blocks.

[MyFarm]

Here's an interesting analysis on the number of mined BTC that have to be dumped per day just to cover electricity costs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rajx5/a_minimum_of_1470_bitcoins_has_to_be_dumped_on/

I'm curious if anyone has thought of doing any analysis on how SPR being decentralized may change this for Spreadcoin, if it does at all.  I personally don't see it being avoided unless we implement a methodology where people with extremely low hash are still provided some SPR like I alluded to in a previous post.

[frontier8]

Here's an interesting analysis on the number of mined BTC that have to be dumped per day just to cover electricity costs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rajx5/a_minimum_of_1470_bitcoins_has_to_be_dumped_on/

I'm curious if anyone has thought of doing any analysis on how SPR being decentralized may change this for Spreadcoin, if it does at all.  I personally don't see it being avoided unless we implement a methodology where people with extremely low hash are still provided some SPR like I alluded to in a previous post.

I think the price will stay stable or hover at 20K sato for weeks.
Cheap dumping time is over.

[jjjordan]

I may have found a wallet/miner bug.
More like malfunction. Will do more testing if anybody is interested.
I have 4 PCs mining to a wallet on one of them.
3 with nvidia cards and one with some AMD 7850s.
If I start the AMD one first ALWAYS the third nVidia doesn't connect,
After 30s or so the error message is:

Code:

[2015-01-05 13:54:52] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2015-01-05 13:55:22] HTTP request failed: Operation timed out after 30014 milli
seconds with 0 out of -1 bytes received
[2015-01-05 13:55:22] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 5 seconds

If I start the AMD miner after the nVidia ones though, everything is OK.
My wallet is v. 9.15.2 g4.......-beta

[frontier8]

I may have found a wallet/miner bug.
More like malfunction. Will do more testing if anybody is interested.
I have 4 PCs mining to a wallet on one of them.
3 with nvidia cards and one with some AMD 7850s.
If I start the AMD one first ALWAYS the third nVidia doesn't connect,
After 30s or so the error message is:

Code:

[2015-01-05 13:54:52] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2015-01-05 13:55:22] HTTP request failed: Operation timed out after 30014 milli
seconds with 0 out of -1 bytes received
[2015-01-05 13:55:22] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 5 seconds

If I start the AMD miner after the nVidia ones though, everything is OK.
My wallet is v. 9.15.2 g4.......-beta

To correct this, use the '--gpu-map' option to correctly map the GPU number seen by OpenCL with the GPU number seen by ADL.

[frontier8]

If you know about how solo mining can affect masternodes then you can PM me or post it here. I haven't received any messages about it.

Regarding hashrate distribution chart, it was asked some time ago:

Also, are there any nethash analysis/distribution tools available, possible, in the pipeline?

Due to more decentralized nature it is harder to perform such analysis for SpreadCoin. You need to monitor which node will be the first to broadcast the block. For Bitcoin you can just connect to all major pools which is not a problem as they probably are running on a good servers. Since there are no pools in SpreadCoin you will need to connect to as many nodes as you can and still the fact that some node was the first to broadcast some block doesn't mean that this block was mined by this node, it may be just distributing block which was mined by node to which you are not connected. Many computers in internet are behind NAT or don't accept incoming connections for some other reasons, the only way to be connected to such nodes is if they will connect to you which may never happen.
This doesn't mean that it is impossible but hashrate distribution analysis may be less reliable than in cryptocurrencies with pools.
No such analysis is available yet.

You can try to search blockchain for the same mining addresses but by default each new block is mined on a different address.

Mr.spread,could you please reveal some news about the status of MN development before they are officially released later this month?

[jjjordan]

I may have found a wallet/miner bug.
More like malfunction. Will do more testing if anybody is interested.
I have 4 PCs mining to a wallet on one of them.
3 with nvidia cards and one with some AMD 7850s.
If I start the AMD one first ALWAYS the third nVidia doesn't connect,
After 30s or so the error message is:

Code:

[2015-01-05 13:54:52] 1 miner threads started, using 'spreadx11' algorithm.
[2015-01-05 13:55:22] HTTP request failed: Operation timed out after 30014 milli
seconds with 0 out of -1 bytes received
[2015-01-05 13:55:22] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 5 seconds

If I start the AMD miner after the nVidia ones though, everything is OK.
My wallet is v. 9.15.2 g4.......-beta

To correct this, use the '--gpu-map' option to correctly map the GPU number seen by OpenCL with the GPU number seen by ADL.

I don't see how this is related. As I already stated it is 4 different PCs. Each one has nvidia only or amd only cards. No APUs - all are CPUs.
When all of them are working if I stop an nvidia one it comes with that error message when restarted. No such problem with AMD one.

Anyhow - I found a workaround by starting them in this particular order (AMD last) and it works fine.

[e1ghtSpace]

SpreadCoin

Truly Decentralized
In Bitcoin mining power is centralised by large pools. This puts the whole network at risk if these pools become malicious or if their security is compromised. In SpreadCoin there are no pools, mining power is spread around many solo miners.

Just a small fix...

Edit:

Does anyone ever wonder if Mr. Spread is satoshi?

[IBGigglin]

Who likes my signature?

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SPREADCOIN

Solo mineable only    Just as satoshi originally intended!    Masternode implementation coming soon...

You can have it right here:

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Edit: You will not believe how long it took me to get my addresses (with colour) in that right hand corner. If you want the code for that then here it is:

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You might be able to get way with taking out most of the spaces to save some characters. They're in there to force the table's cell as wide as it can go so that the signature sticks to the right side of the screen and not the cell (which ends up being in the middle of the screen).

Nice work.

The only thing I prefered was I changed the middle link of mine to the mining help guide for a quick reference rather than two home page links.

'https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715435.msg9980038#msg9980038'

Seriously great job. Im sure that was a pain in the a**.

[CashFlow]

our vulnerability found in the hash coin. Mein Merger prey. http://dc.cointellect.com/

[IBGigglin]

our vulnerability found in the hash coin. Mein Merger prey. http://dc.cointellect.com/

What are you saying exactly?

[NoobKidOnTheBlock]

SpreadCoin

Truly Decentralized
In Bitcoin mining power is concentrated in large pools. This puts the whole network at risk if these pools become malicious or if their security is compromised. In SpreadCoin there are no pools, mining power is spread around many solo miners.

Just a small fix...

Edit:

Does anyone ever wonder if Mr. Spread is satoshi?

That thought had crossed my mind But all I know is that whomever dumped their SpreadCoin is definitely going to be regretting it once Mr. Spread implements Masternodes and other features to SpreadCoin I've been collecting as much as I can you would think I am a goddamn Pokemon trainer because "I gotta catch'em ALL!!!" LOL anyways good to see some solid signatures promoting Spreadcoin guys like it a lot