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April 11, 2019, 08:20:10 AM
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I am not going to lie that sounds a bit fishy at best. I am not going to defend the sportsbook at any given day and I always try to support the gambler first but looking at what information we have on our hands it would be understandable why the sportsbook would block your account.

First of all your name is menahem and the account you claim you do not have is called menahem911, secondly that menahem911 account they claim is yours and deny has played on their website and did a double spend and basically hurt the sportsbook, now looking at the situation you sent money there and without waiting played games and after 3 confirmations you tried to withdraw, which in real life could happen but also is a way many double spenders also use just to get away with.

Also, you claim to use VPN which could be the reason for looking suspicious but when you combine the fact that with your exact name someone did a double spending and you tried to withdraw as soon as you won and bet before the confirmation it all comes together for a suspicious defense. I am not saying you are lying but I can safely say it looks suspicious at best.

Hello,

First thank you very much for your time.
On sportsbet.io I have only one account named "carzobo", and my real name is Menahem but I don’t have an account named "menahem911"
Using a vpn is not forbidden by their rules or illegal.
I think it's a technique not to pay me or simply a coincidence. If the do not agree he will refund at least my money deposit ~ 50mBTC.

Cordially.
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April 11, 2019, 08:22:22 AM
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Hello,

I introduce myself, my name is Menahem.
I deposited on the site ~50 mBTC, I played before the confirmation and I won about ~321 mBTC.
So I waited for 3 confirmations before withdrawing my money.
Once the 3 confirmations are passed (after 30 minutes).
I'm trying to withdraw my money, but what's going on?
They refuse my withdrawal and ask me to contact support.
I contact the support and ask me to check my account.
I agree to check my account and I send all the documents they ask me (ID card, selfie...)
Once done after 20 hours of waiting, I receive an email telling me if I have a second account.
I tell them no, I only have one account because it's the truth.
They send me a message 2 hours later and say that I have created an account called "menahem911" and that it belongs to me.
And that according to their rules, If someone has 2 accounts, balances will be blocked and his account banned.
I still tell them that it is not my account that I have only one account called "carzobo".
After 24 hours, they tell me that my account "carzobo" and blocked and the money suspended for making double spend on an account named "menahem911" that does not even belong to me.
So at the end I find myself at 0.00 € without my base money and without my earnings.
Nice scam, I advise you to avoid sportsbet.io, at your own risk.

All Email message: https://pastebin.com/yjhRqeSD
Official thread about this scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129981

Cordially.

Hi domixer,

Do I have permission to inquire about your account? If so, I'll contact sportsbet regarding this dispute.


Hi, request received and response given.

thanks all.
Steve, Sportsbet.io

Hello,

I understand you, someone maked a double spend with an account named "menahem911" it’s really suspicious but it’s not me, so just refund me my deposit ?

Cordially.
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April 11, 2019, 06:36:13 PM
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@domixer

Youre a total scumbag who already tried to scam this forum with your now deleted post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120909.msg50171137#msg50171137

Anyone with half a brain can read that thread and realize this.
"We do not have 264BTC but 64BTC, there was a typing error that will be modified."
Get a life you scamming little nitwit

 
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April 11, 2019, 09:09:07 PM
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Good to see that sports books are allowed to defend themselves, and as the most recent complainer has shown,,, this is the most common way to cheat casinos, do double spends, I do not know why people still try to do it. Makes life difficult for the rest of us.

Anyway, I have a question, what is the difference between onehash and fairlay. One is mutual bet, other is exchange. But I feel like they are the same thing as PvP right?
That is why this place is the most objective place to look for when searching for a new place, honestly for me this is the place I always keep on checking because I love nitrogen sports and they are basically the best out there ever but I am also a bit of sick and want to find new places, however I won't until peep and other people here promote that place to higher degree as well, I tried all other places, I kinda enjoy bitcoinrush as well, sometimes they react quickly and give you money right away but as peeps knows I have seen my coins credited and withdrawn 20+ hours after my win as well.

So, I am just here to find a place that I can play basically. And if we are just going to not be objective and just do whatever we want and say whatever we want and lie about the sportsbooks than this place wouldn't be trustworthy. If a casino is right, we owe to public to actually say they are right, if they are wrong its our job to tell people casino is wrong, I know this topic is peeps place (lol) but if we could help him, why not.

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April 12, 2019, 02:19:18 AM
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Good to see that sports books are allowed to defend themselves, and as the most recent complainer has shown,,, this is the most common way to cheat casinos, do double spends, I do not know why people still try to do it. Makes life difficult for the rest of us.

Anyway, I have a question, what is the difference between onehash and fairlay. One is mutual bet, other is exchange. But I feel like they are the same thing as PvP right?
That is why this place is the most objective place to look for when searching for a new place, honestly for me this is the place I always keep on checking because I love nitrogen sports and they are basically the best out there ever but I am also a bit of sick and want to find new places, however I won't until peep and other people here promote that place to higher degree as well, I tried all other places, I kinda enjoy bitcoinrush as well, sometimes they react quickly and give you money right away but as peeps knows I have seen my coins credited and withdrawn 20+ hours after my win as well.

So, I am just here to find a place that I can play basically. And if we are just going to not be objective and just do whatever we want and say whatever we want and lie about the sportsbooks than this place wouldn't be trustworthy. If a casino is right, we owe to public to actually say they are right, if they are wrong its our job to tell people casino is wrong, I know this topic is peeps place (lol) but if we could help him, why not.

Hey Raven, you're a great contributor here. This our thread, for all of us players.

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April 13, 2019, 08:30:06 PM
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Thanks man, I try to do my best and be objective about every place (except bitcoinrush lol Cheesy ) so that we could be at least a bit of help to you, I know I had pain going through all sportsbooks to find the best one and I know the pain to be scammed and not get my money paid as well so I just want to help you build a list that will help all the newcomers at least a sense of where to start, they could check out your list and they won't have to go thought the paint we have been through and they could be safe from all those bad places.

What I have been doing is very very tiny compared to what you are helping for the newcomers, I just share my experience and tell you what happened whereas you literally rank them and put them in perspective for everyone to see. Thank you for your dedication.

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April 15, 2019, 01:19:40 PM
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I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

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I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.

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April 15, 2019, 04:42:15 PM
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I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.

That I agree with, but they seem to be selectively downgrading odds based on how much you win which is unfair. I think i have read about it in the past as well, will post here for reference if I find something. I do agree its one of the best sportbooks when compared to other books.

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April 15, 2019, 05:22:06 PM
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I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.

So Nitrogin can require KYC?
Ok good to know.
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April 15, 2019, 05:44:01 PM
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"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

Nitrogen and betcoin.ag is the most trusted sportsbook  for me. I gamble in these sites and find no problem doing so. I don't know if you have had any problems with this site but I don't. I love betting in Nitrogensports most, I feel safe.

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April 15, 2019, 07:27:52 PM
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I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.

So Nitrogin can require KYC?
Ok good to know.

Very rare. There was a 6 figure payout USD. They asked just to make sure they had the right person since it was a substantial amount and they didn't want to send it to the wrong person.

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"A" rated books

nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag A (2013)            

Nitrogen and betcoin.ag is the most trusted sportsbook  for me. I gamble in these sites and find no problem doing so. I don't know if you have had any problems with this site but I don't. I love betting in Nitrogensports most, I feel safe.
Thanks for your input r1a2y3m4

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April 15, 2019, 07:36:18 PM
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I give the link below of top rated bitcoin sportsbooks. From here you find the top listed bitcoin sportsbooks, these sites are very popular for this purpose. These all sportsbooks are tested by a method of the GamblingBitcoin.com team. Best ranked or number 1 ratings of bitcoin sportsbooks is Cloudbet Sports, it's offers a generous 100% first deposit bonus up to 5 BTC/BCH to their members.

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April 15, 2019, 08:12:50 PM
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I feel Nitrogen needs a downgrade. They are now offering worse odds than before and are doing selective downgrading based on the winnings. After 2 good weeks of betting, I am now getting terrible odds as compared to other sites on there, and I think its just accounts that have good winnings experiencing this.

Thanks for the input vennali. We need more reviews by all. From what I'm seeing the lines at Nitrogen seem to be the same. Using the NBA as an example, anything better than -110 (1.91) is considered reduced. Nitrogen is -108 (1.93) and I think that has remained constant. Payouts are fast. KYC rarely needed.

If we were to rate the top ten books 1-10, Nitrogen would have to be #1.

So Nitrogin can require KYC?
Ok good to know.

Very rare. There was a 6 figure payout USD. They asked just to make sure they had the right person since it was a substantial amount and they didn't want to send it to the wrong person.

Ok.  But they reserve the right to do so.
Again very good to know.
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Sportsbet and Cloudbet seem to be the books that ask for KYC the most. It's been a problem for players. Some innocent players seem to have been caught in the net.

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April 15, 2019, 10:17:01 PM
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Sportsbet and Cloudbet seem to be the books that ask for KYC the most.

Saw many cases where cloudbet asked for KYC so yeah , but for sportsbet they don't usually ask for KYC unless they suspect something going on like avoiding betting limits , suspecting double spending or abusing the promotions like the price boost
they ask for KYC for large balances as well , but I know some guys who had like 0.5 BTC with them and they didn't ask them for KYC

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Very rare. There was a 6 figure payout USD. They asked just to make sure they had the right person since it was a substantial amount and they didn't want to send it to the wrong person.

Right person for what though ? They don't really have our personal information like Names/addresses. So they won't be able to confirm much from just a random ID, and know if its the same person who created the account.

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April 16, 2019, 04:15:12 PM
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Sportsbet and Cloudbet seem to be the books that ask for KYC the most.

Saw many cases where cloudbet asked for KYC so yeah , but for sportsbet they don't usually ask for KYC unless they suspect something going on like avoiding betting limits , suspecting double spending or abusing the promotions like the price boost
they ask for KYC for large balances as well , but I know some guys who had like 0.5 BTC with them and they didn't ask them for KYC

At how much do the sport betting sites usually start getting worried and request for your ID and documents?  I bet small, so I wouldn't know.

And I've never seen so much people complain about it than here at BCT.  In online poker it's like just another thing to do if you wanna start playing at some site and be able to withdraw your money.  Lol.

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April 16, 2019, 04:24:37 PM
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As a truly anonymous platform, BetBTC doesn't make KYC procedures, even for bigger withdrawals.

Even if there are suspicious activities, asking for personal documentation would not help us figure out anything.


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