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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion  (Read 226808 times)
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June 22, 2015, 09:18:12 PM
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Please add bet-bitcoin.com to your list of non paying sports books.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095767.msg11687107

Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
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June 22, 2015, 09:22:52 PM
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Please add bet-bitcoin.com to your list of non paying sports books.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095767.msg11687107

Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.


Give me a day or two to check into them to see what I can find. Thanks for the information.  It's really appreciated.

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June 22, 2015, 09:34:24 PM
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Please add bet-bitcoin.com to your list of non paying sports books.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095767.msg11687107

Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.

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Well, I ignored a few warnings in their main thread, and now i'm waiting 3 days for a payout of around .5 BTC.

Seemed too good to be true - actual pinnacle odds with no account hassle, and direct payment back to BTC address. But then grading started taking hours. He seemed responsive via pm (but red flag that my post about not being paid was deleted from their self-moderated thread).

I kept getting stalled via pm "sorry automated grading is down" etc etc. Then finally was told i would be paid manually. Bets were finally graded win after 2 days, but no payment arrived.

It seems like a 1-person shop who coded up a simple site to copy odds and accept bets. At this point 3 days later being incompetent is indistinguishable from being a scam. I know making this post now decreases whatever chances I had of getting paid, but so be it. Be careful.   

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June 22, 2015, 11:19:13 PM
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Peeps - Any reason for the rating you give them other than length of time they've existed?

I get the same feeling I got with betvip - that it's a vacant storefront (at least the sportsbook) which (almost) no one patronizes.



After a book has been in business for 2 years, longevity is no longer a sole reason for an upgrade. Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation. They are a good book.                                      


"Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation."

Hopefully you are correct (despite them not responding to my post above nor my post in their own thread).

But let's remember that you had BetVIP graded "B", the same rating you've given Betcoinsports/Betcoin.
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June 22, 2015, 11:20:19 PM
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Something's wrong currently with bitcointalk's software - it's putting my new post above inside the quote instead of showing it as a new post.
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June 23, 2015, 01:00:13 AM
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Peeps - Any reason for the rating you give them other than length of time they've existed?

I get the same feeling I got with betvip - that it's a vacant storefront (at least the sportsbook) which (almost) no one patronizes.



After a book has been in business for 2 years, longevity is no longer a sole reason for an upgrade. Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation. They are a good book.                                      


"Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation."

Hopefully you are correct (despite them not responding to my post above nor my post in their own thread).

But let's remember that you had BetVIP graded "B", the same rating you've given Betcoinsports/Betcoin.
BetVIP was never a "B-" or above. Fortunately, no "A" or "B" rated book has ever gone under.

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June 23, 2015, 01:03:27 AM
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Something's wrong currently with bitcointalk's software - it's putting my new post above inside the quote instead of showing it as a new post.
same is happening to me.

edit- except this time.

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June 23, 2015, 01:21:45 AM
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Books- Are you going to put up odds for Arena Football? No one has lines up yet and games start Friday.

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June 23, 2015, 01:25:00 AM
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Something's wrong currently with bitcointalk's software - it's putting my new post above inside the quote instead of showing it as a new post.

Maybe you mistakenly deleted the "]" in the closing quote that is why your message is inside the message you quoted. It sometimes happened to me
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June 23, 2015, 10:48:15 AM
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                    BetVIP was never a "B-" or above. Fortunately, no "A" or "B" rated book has ever gone under

Good point!
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June 23, 2015, 10:52:12 AM
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Having just spent over two years running www.bitcoinpunter.com before being forced to close down by the UK Gambling Commission I feel I have the authority to give an accurate opinion on who people should be betting with.
The cream are slowly rising to the top in the bitcoin sports betting industry and they are:

Direct Bet
Nitrogen Sports
Cloudbet
Anonibet
Jetwin
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June 23, 2015, 12:53:02 PM
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Peeps - "BetVIP was never a "B-" or above."

My apologies if I got this wrong.

I recall objecting when you upgraded them to one letter better.
I thought you'd made them from C to B, but I guess you'd upgraded them from D to C based on your statement.

Also they were part of your grid, and all the others on it are A or B.
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June 23, 2015, 01:22:50 PM
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Peeps - "BetVIP was never a "B-" or above."

My apologies if I got this wrong.

I recall objecting when you upgraded them to one letter better.
I thought you'd made them from C to B, but I guess you'd upgraded them from D to C based on your statement.

Also they were part of your grid, and all the others on it are A or B.


I was thinking of this:

Quote from: Peeps Place on March 11, 2015, 03:52:16 PM

"BetVip raised from "C" to "C+". BetVip has added a poker room and they also have a casino. They have now been in business one year and should be in the "B"s but ratings only jump one step at a time. The only problem they had was with a delay in deposits caused by a DDoS attack. All of the good books have gone through DDoS attacks causing delays."
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June 23, 2015, 01:26:07 PM
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Having just spent over two years running www.bitcoinpunter.com before being forced to close down by the UK Gambling Commission I feel I have the authority to give an accurate opinion on who people should be betting with.
The cream are slowly rising to the top in the bitcoin sports betting industry and they are:

Direct Bet
Nitrogen Sports
Cloudbet
Anonibet
Jetwin

tonyq - A few questions:

1) Are you listing them in order of preference or randomly?

2) Can you elaborate on the positives for the books you consider the cream.

3) Also would be interested in the negatives for the books you've left off this list.

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June 23, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
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1) Are you listing them in order of preference or randomly?

Yes, in order of preference.

2) Can you elaborate on the positives for the books you consider the cream.

I could, but it would take ages to type it and I have a headache...but briefly,
decent odds, easy deposits, quick withdrawals and good customer service (at least in my experience)

3) Also would be interested in the negatives for the books you've left off this list.

I haven't left firms off the list as you put it, I have just listed those I personally consider the current top five with all things taken into consideration.
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June 23, 2015, 04:36:16 PM
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Having just spent over two years running www.bitcoinpunter.com before being forced to close down by the UK Gambling Commission I feel I have the authority to give an accurate opinion on who people should be betting with.
The cream are slowly rising to the top in the bitcoin sports betting industry and they are:

Direct Bet
Nitrogen Sports
Cloudbet
Anonibet
Jetwin

It's funny that you mention that the cream is slowly rising to the top. I was going to post something about the top books separating themselves from the pack. Betcoin should be added to the top group.

What are your thoughts on Jetwin and Cloudbet?


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June 23, 2015, 04:46:58 PM
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If anyone has thoughts on Jetwin or Cloudbet, please post them.

I think that Jetwin should be raised to "B+". Cloudbet has these small hiccups which is why I'm hesitant to raise their grade at this time.

As posted above there is now a decent gap between the "A"s and "B"s compared to the "C"s on down.

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June 23, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
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What payment processor is the best for handling sportsbooks deposits and withrawals fastest and most secure?
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June 23, 2015, 04:59:43 PM
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What payment processor is the best for handling sportsbooks deposits and withrawals fastest and most secure?

Are you talking about wallet used to make deposits and withdrawals to sportsbooks? I personally do all my transfers with a blockchain.info wallet. Most deposits are instant. Withdrawals are instant to a few minutes for the good books.

For security I use two factor authentication with my wallets. Some sportsbooks also have 2FA.

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June 23, 2015, 05:21:16 PM
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If anyone has thoughts on Jetwin or Cloudbet, please post them.

I think that Jetwin should be raised to "B+". Cloudbet has these small hiccups which is why I'm hesitant to raise their grade at this time.

As posted above there is now a decent gap between the "A"s and "B"s compared to the "C"s on down.

I have had many dealings with Jetwin and Cloudbet, both in betting terms and customer service terms over the last couple of years and can truly say they've both been first class.
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