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June 17, 2015, 08:38:22 PM Last edit: June 17, 2015, 09:10:21 PM by magicmexican |
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Any stalling in such cases is usually a sign that no one will be seeing any money whatsoever.
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tonyq
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June 17, 2015, 08:43:47 PM |
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If I don't get my 1.67 btc back I will be chasing a certain person all over the internet for a long time to come.
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June 17, 2015, 08:45:32 PM |
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In stalling in such cases is usually a sign that no one will be seeing any money whatsoever.
I hope tonyq and their other 8 customers get their coins back, but I agree 100% with your comment.
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June 18, 2015, 01:59:58 AM |
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what sportsbook sites doesnt require account creation like directbet?
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June 18, 2015, 03:32:50 AM |
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what sportsbook sites doesnt require account creation like directbet?
With Fairlay you have the option of creating an account or betting in the same way that it's done at DirectBet.
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June 18, 2015, 10:41:24 AM |
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In a Question and Answer session with BetVIP founder Daniel Schwartzkopff published by Bitcoin Warrior last year, the following exchange took place:
QUESTION: Now, one of the big problems with any Bitcoin business where someone else holds the private keys is that there is nothing to stop the owners to just up and disappear with the proceeds. We just saw this with Evolution, the dark market. What guarantee do you have for the folks using your site that this won’t happen?
ANSWER: In the past there may been an element of mistrust in bitcoin, with anonymity being one of the real barriers to players and consumers feeling safe. BetVIP decided it was time to bring transparency and legitimacy to this industry, so we became the world’s first fully licensed bitcoin operator. This means that players know exactly who we are, where we are registered and they can put a face to the name of this company. With our license comes responsibilities and legal repercussions for any illegal or fraudulent activity. We’re absolutely open with all of our customers so they can be guaranteed a safe gaming experience. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Does that ease the worries of anybody waiting for their funds? It doesn't ease mine I'm afraid. Especially as Mr Schwartzkopff conducted a management buyout just hours before the site closed.
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June 20, 2015, 04:11:06 AM |
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June 20, 2015, 04:35:32 AM |
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wow you do not enter directbet ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I always play with directbet .
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June 20, 2015, 04:37:49 AM |
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wow you do not enter directbet ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I always play with directbet . And you're still showing betvip, even though they're closed.
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June 20, 2015, 04:43:48 AM |
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wow you do not enter directbet ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I always play with directbet . And you're still showing betvip, even though they're closed. they do not achieve the revenue targets , decided to close betvip " All withdrawal requests will be honoured and paid. Please lodge your request to info@betvip.com with subject ‘Withdrawal Request’. Please lodge your withdrawal request before 28 of June 2015 and any payments will be authorised at the latest by 30 June 2015. "
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June 20, 2015, 04:47:10 AM Last edit: June 20, 2015, 05:06:28 AM by Gogo ppp |
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Will you contact Nitrogen and try to get them to offer the option of "Listed Pitchers" for MLB, like every other sportsbook on the planet?
It's just taking advantage of unsophisticated bettors the way they're doing it.
I've never even seen the option to bet MLB totals with "Action only" (i.e., regardless of pitcher). It is ALWAYS default "Listed Pitchers" only for totals.
But not at Nitro.
The book that is in most ways the top bitcoin sportsbook should be better than this.
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June 20, 2015, 06:05:57 AM |
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Update ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHZooVGc.jpg&t=665&c=ui6okxNm4F1gog)
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June 20, 2015, 06:08:37 AM Last edit: June 20, 2015, 06:34:56 AM by Peeps Place |
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wow you do not enter directbet ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I always play with directbet . They are rated but not all the books were on the spreadsheet. DirectBet raised from "C-" to "C". They seem to have solved many of the problems that they had with the down time. "A" rated booksAnonibet A (2011) NitrogenSports A (2012) "B"rated booksBetcoinsports B+ (2013) Casinobitcoin B (2013) Jetwin B (2013) Cloudbet B- (2013) "C" rated booksFairlay C (2014) DirectBet C (2014) Betmoose C- (2014) OLEBitcoin C- (2013)* Predictious C- (2013) "D" rated books Premiumtradings D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Betbtc D (2014) "F" rated booksAsianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players. Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players. BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history. BTCBook F (2014) ................no payouts are being made due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting since 4/17/05. Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players. Coindrafts F (2014) Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players. Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players. Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Gobetgo F (2013) Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitbook F NRaltbetfair.com betbanks.com betinbtc.com betkurus.com BetVIP - closed 6/12/15 bitsportsbook.org Coin178.com Flutterclub.com Planetofbets.com tdsports.com xbet.io * longer accepting cash deposits Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
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June 20, 2015, 06:28:11 AM |
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Will you contact Nitrogen and try to get them to offer the option of "Listed Pitchers" for MLB, like every other sportsbook on the planet?
It's just taking advantage of unsophisticated bettors the way they're doing it.
I've never even seen the option to bet MLB totals with "Action only" (i.e., regardless of pitcher). It is ALWAYS default "Listed Pitchers" only for totals.
But not at Nitro.
The book that is in most ways the top bitcoin sportsbook should be better than this.
gogo- I talked with Nitrogen about "listed" pitchers. A huge majority of their players want all wagers to be "action". Nitrogen is always open to change so it wouldn't surprise me if this was changed down the line. Believe me, I know that they take your opinion seriously.
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June 20, 2015, 06:35:51 AM |
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Will you contact Nitrogen and try to get them to offer the option of "Listed Pitchers" for MLB, like every other sportsbook on the planet?
It's just taking advantage of unsophisticated bettors the way they're doing it.
I've never even seen the option to bet MLB totals with "Action only" (i.e., regardless of pitcher). It is ALWAYS default "Listed Pitchers" only for totals.
But not at Nitro.
The book that is in most ways the top bitcoin sportsbook should be better than this.
gogo- I talked with Nitrogen about "listed" pitchers. A huge majority of their players want all wagers to be "action". Nitrogen is always open to change so it wouldn't surprise me if this was changed down the line. Believe me, I know that they take your opinion seriously. This is just a self-fulfilling prophecy. They only offer "Action only" MLB. So some people bet it, and then it becomes "Our players prefer 'Action only'." Well, the ones who bet it there don't have a choice and don't know any better. (Granted, some genuinely don't care. But others like myself don't bet MLB there because there is no option to choose "Listed"). Make "Action only" the default, and offer an option to make the bet "Listed Pitchers". It costs them bets by not allowing one to choose.
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June 20, 2015, 11:05:05 AM |
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Just spent over an hour trying to make a bet at this wretched site - betcoinsports.com I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts. Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there. Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page. Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
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June 20, 2015, 12:22:05 PM |
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Just spent over an hour trying to make a bet at this wretched site - betcoinsports.com I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts. Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there. Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page. Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts. I've had the same experiences there in the past. It's a nightmare.
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June 20, 2015, 09:58:31 PM |
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just want to know why ratings for anonibet+nitrogensport is 2 step above from directbet?? because from my experience that 3 site have same level with had plus minus in the same range, example that 3 site didnt have main source for live score but they using multi source for real live score...
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June 21, 2015, 01:37:29 AM Last edit: June 21, 2015, 03:26:48 AM by Peeps Place |
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just want to know why ratings for anonibet+nitrogensport is 2 step above from directbet?? because from my experience that 3 site have same level with had plus minus in the same range, example that 3 site didnt have main source for live score but they using multi source for real live score...
DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in American markets. With deposit books when a bet is placed , the player gets notice if the bet is accepted or rejected in a short period of time. With DirectBet confirmation of accepting/rejecting a bet isn't made until the time the money leaves the players wallet until it reaches DirectBet's wallet. Most of the time this is immediate but there is also the possibility of not knowing if a bet is accepted or rejected for an hour or more. While this hasn't happened for a while, a few months ago confirmations were delayed on a daily basis. Most of the time it was due to the site going up and down, but it can be from any delay in DirectBet receiving a bet after coins leaving the player's wallet. DirectBet once had the advantage of being a non-deposit book but the advantage no longer exists with the speed in which deposits and withdrawals occur at other books. Some have instant deposit/withdrawals. Books rated "B-" and higher are recommended books. DirectBet isn't capable of meeting the recommended status due to the system in which they use to confirm/reject bets. There should never be extended delays. One delay is one too many.
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June 21, 2015, 07:43:53 AM |
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Betcoin.ag decrease my bets limit in 5 times after my winning period in 1 month.
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