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I think directbet is the provider of the best sportsbooks in the form cryptocurrency, so I think directbet deserve to be in the top position Smiley
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July 11, 2015, 04:49:04 AM
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I think directbet is the provider of the best sportsbooks in the form cryptocurrency, so I think directbet deserve to be in the top position Smiley
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same through...lots of live gane can be bet on in directbet compare to others
thats the most important 1 for me,
but Ieard that some1 complain about the layout

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July 11, 2015, 05:39:06 AM
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I think directbet is the provider of the best sportsbooks in the form cryptocurrency, so I think directbet deserve to be in the top position Smiley
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but the odds DirectBet offering is very low compared to other sportsbook sites and i believe that its one of the factors why many users doesnt like DirectBet
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July 11, 2015, 10:45:52 AM
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Day 11
Still not received my betting history from BetVIP.
Emails not answered.
Cloudbet no longer talking to me.
My 1.67 bitcoin still not sent to my Cloudbet account.
What a nightmare.
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July 11, 2015, 01:00:46 PM
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anonibet, when i clicked the link to www.anonibet.com and it direct to this link https://www.anonibet.com/default.aspx
its not good link i think,
but when i just loging in, there is a good customer service chat say hello its nice Smiley

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July 12, 2015, 11:43:31 PM
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Day 11
Still not received my betting history from BetVIP.
Emails not answered.
Cloudbet no longer talking to me.
My 1.67 bitcoin still not sent to my Cloudbet account.
What a nightmare.

tonyq I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not sure that there's really much point posting about it on bitcointalk - weren't they claiming to be the first licensed BTC site? Why don't you file a complaint with the licensing authority. I'm not sure who it was, but I'm sure you'll be able to look it up in an archived article somewhere.

BetVIP has already shut down, so its not like you're damaging their reputation or exercising any leverage by posting updates about it.
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Day 11
Still not received my betting history from BetVIP.
Emails not answered.
Cloudbet no longer talking to me.
My 1.67 bitcoin still not sent to my Cloudbet account.
What a nightmare.

tonyq I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not sure that there's really much point posting about it on bitcointalk - weren't they claiming to be the first licensed BTC site? Why don't you file a complaint with the licensing authority. I'm not sure who it was, but I'm sure you'll be able to look it up in an archived article somewhere.

BetVIP has already shut down, so its not like you're damaging their reputation or exercising any leverage by posting updates about it.

I think that tony should check in now and then. Cloudbet took over BetVIP accounts so they are responsible for all money owed.

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BetVIP 30 June 2015 Update:

Cloudbet has acquired BetVIP's client account database and player liabilities
 
All withdrawals requested will be honoured by Cloudbet as of immediate effect via Cloudbet login.
https://www.betvip.com/

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July 13, 2015, 05:36:29 AM
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Cloudbet has taken over responsibility for paying out player accounts, but based on what tonyq has said the issue is with BetVIP saying that he didn't have any available balance to transfer to Cloudbet - this isn't Cloudbet's responsibility at all as the balance clearly hasn't been transferred to them. The issue is with BetVIP, unless you're suggesting that Cloudbet should pay out entirely based on tonyq's word, despite it obviously contradicting the information that BetVIP provided. As I said, he should complain to the licensing authority... that's what they're there for.
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Cloudbet has taken over responsibility for paying out player accounts, but based on what tonyq has said the issue is with BetVIP saying that he didn't have any available balance to transfer to Cloudbet - this isn't Cloudbet's responsibility at all as the balance clearly hasn't been transferred to them. The issue is with BetVIP, unless you're suggesting that Cloudbet should pay out entirely based on tonyq's word, despite it obviously contradicting the information that BetVIP provided. As I said, he should complain to the licensing authority... that's what they're there for.

It's a sub-license in Curacao that doesn't mean much.

Tony could be wrong in his assertions since I'm unsure of the facts.

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July 13, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
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despite it obviously contradicting the information that BetVIP provided.
BetVIP have provided no information, despite claiming they will do so on what's left of their site.
I have sent 6 emails to them over the last 13 days.....they answered the first one saying they would send me my betting records showing they owe me nothing but haven't done so. Remember, 3 days before they folded, I could have withdrawn the whole 1.67 bitcoin if I'd wanted to.....suddenly they say I owe them it all.
Cloudbet said they'd take up my case but also no longer answer my emails  nor private and public messages on this forum.
I had my initial deposit bonus like everyone else and nothing else.
I worked that bonus through, many, many times.
I am being ripped off and nobody will talk to me or let me know what is happening.
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despite it obviously contradicting the information that BetVIP provided.
BetVIP have provided no information, despite claiming they will do so on what's left of their site.
I have sent 6 emails to them over the last 13 days.....they answered the first one saying they would send me my betting records showing they owe me nothing but haven't done so. Remember, 3 days before they folded, I could have withdrawn the whole 1.67 bitcoin if I'd wanted to.....suddenly they say I owe them it all.
Cloudbet said they'd take up my case but also no longer answer my emails  nor private and public messages on this forum.
I had my initial deposit bonus like everyone else and nothing else.
I worked that bonus through, many, many times.
I am being ripped off and nobody will talk to me or let me know what is happening.

I don't doubt your story at all - it's Peeps that I'm disagreeing with. It sounds like the issue is entirely with BetVIP, not Cloudbet (i.e. the information that BetVIP gave Cloudbet regarding your account balance was incorrect), as in an earlier post you said:

They [BetVIP] tell me that I was given four bonuses in my 9/10 months of betting with them......Absolute nonsense, I was given the one when I joined just like everyone else and turned it over many, many, many times.
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July 13, 2015, 11:09:27 AM
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But if BetVIP refuse to send me my betting records (which will show I am correct) what can I do other than plead for Cloudbet, who took on their customer base,  to request those records on my behalf?
They have also gone silent on the issue.
It's so frustrating.
Even an email from either outfit telling me to piss off would be welcome at this stage!
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betcoin.ag is a peace of sh*t. Inconvenient site, pages are loading for ages, support don't answer my ticket for a day, can't withdraw my money for 2 days for now.
Won't bet there anymore.

yesterday i made my first btc withdrawal of 8.2btc, and got paid in some hours, so I think you didn't confirm the email? Just check the email or spam fold, if there is no email, submit a ticket or email support, I think they will pay you. I like this site, it has awesome UI, the best VIP program, love it.  Grin
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But if BetVIP refuse to send me my betting records (which will show I am correct) what can I do other than plead for Cloudbet, who took on their customer base,  to request those records on my behalf?
They have also gone silent on the issue.
It's so frustrating.
Even an email from either outfit telling me to piss off would be welcome at this stage!
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tony- I know that you have posted about this numerous times but I'm still a little confused about what's happened with your account. Can you tell me what happened chronologically? thanks

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Sure Peeps.

I had been a customer with BetVIP for around 9/10 months when they folded suddenly.
I also had their banner at the top of bitcoinpunter.com and earned aound 3 bitcoin in affiliate payments in that time.
Those payments used to go into my betting account and I used to bet quite regularly with them. My single bets (all on soccer)  varied between 0.2 and 1.0 btc. I also deposited from time to time.
At the time they vanished, I had 1.67 bitcoin showing in my account.
A couple of days before they went belly up, I went to withdraw some bitcoin and it said 'amount available to withdraw is 1.67.....If I had bonuses to work through as they now claim, I would NOT have seen that amount available. When I was working my 100% deposit bonus through for the first few months after I first joined, the amount showing in my account was more than I was allowed to withdraw. Once I had turned it over,  it caught up and was the same. It was like that for 6 months.
 Anyway, as I was about to withdraw,  a goal went in late in a game for me meaning I didn't need to withdraw as I had won enough elsewhere, so I didn't. What a bad moment that has turned out to be!
When they put it on the site on June 30th that the customer base had been transferred over to Cloudbet (where I've been a customer for about a year) I went there expecting to see my 1.67 btc. It wasn't there.
I then emailed them and asked why not. I got back this absurd reply:

Hi Tony
I have submitted a query to pull all your records. On my end what I can see is that you were issued multiple bonuses during your time with BetVIP. These did not have the requirements for a variety of reasons. One being that withdrawals of the principle amount were not allowed until the bonus funds were released. Once I have all the data and information I will forward this to you and we can take it from there.
Regards
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A) I have no recollection of ANY other bonuses being issued to me (and we do tend to remember when we're given free bitcoin)
B) None of that response makes any sense to me whatsover.

I emailed back and requested they send my records to me so I could scrutinise them and got this back:

Hi Tony
Your account has been issued 4 separate bonuses since inception. I will send through the breakdown of betting and balance history shortly.
Regards
Admin
 

That was 10 days ago and despite sending them an email every day I can no longer get any response from them.
Leandro Rossi of Cloudbet was exchanging emails with me up until a week ago saying that they would be contacting BetVIP on my behalf but alas, he no longer responds to my emails any more either.
I am at a loss as to what to do next....I am on this thread talking about it, I am on the Cloudbet thread  also but nobody says a thing to me.....I have even sent two personal messages to Cloudbet via this forum that have also gone unanswered.

Incidentally....even if I am going senile and BetVIP HAD issued me with bonuses, the way I bet both in terms of stake size and frequency, I would have satisfied any bonus requirements in no time at all. But as I say, I only had my join up bonus.
I have never been so pissed off in my life. It's not a huge amount but it is mine and  I'd rather have it than someone else steal it from me.
How people can just get email after email and totally ignore them for this length of time is also truly beyond me.
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Sure Peeps.

I had been a customer with BetVIP for around 9/10 months when they folded suddenly.
I also had their banner at the top of bitcoinpunter.com and earned aound 3 bitcoin in affiliate payments in that time.
Those payments used to go into my betting account and I used to bet quite regularly with them. My single bets (all on soccer)  varied between 0.2 and 1.0 btc. I also deposited from time to time.
At the time they vanished, I had 1.67 bitcoin showing in my account.
A couple of days before they went belly up, I went to withdraw some bitcoin and it said 'amount available to withdraw is 1.67.....If I had bonuses to work through as they now claim, I would NOT have seen that amount available. When I was working my 100% deposit bonus through for the first few months after I first joined, the amount showing in my account was more than I was allowed to withdraw. Once I had turned it over,  it caught up and was the same. It was like that for 6 months.
 Anyway, as I was about to withdraw,  a goal went in late in a game for me meaning I didn't need to withdraw as I had won enough elsewhere, so I didn't. What a bad moment that has turned out to be!
When they put it on the site on June 30th that the customer base had been transferred over to Cloudbet (where I've been a customer for about a year) I went there expecting to see my 1.67 btc. It wasn't there.
I then emailed them and asked why not. I got back this absurd reply:

Hi Tony
I have submitted a query to pull all your records. On my end what I can see is that you were issued multiple bonuses during your time with BetVIP. These did not have the requirements for a variety of reasons. One being that withdrawals of the principle amount were not allowed until the bonus funds were released. Once I have all the data and information I will forward this to you and we can take it from there.
Regards
Admin


A) I have no recollection of ANY other bonuses being issued to me (and we do tend to remember when we're given free bitcoin)
B) None of that response makes any sense to me whatsover.

I emailed back and requested they send my records to me so I could scrutinise them and got this back:

Hi Tony
Your account has been issued 4 separate bonuses since inception. I will send through the breakdown of betting and balance history shortly.
Regards
Admin
 

That was 10 days ago and despite sending them an email every day I can no longer get any response from them.
Leandro Rossi of Cloudbet was exchanging emails with me up until a week ago saying that they would be contacting BetVIP on my behalf but alas, he no longer responds to my emails any more either.
I am at a loss as to what to do next....I am on this thread talking about it, I am on the Cloudbet thread  also but nobody says a thing to me.....I have even sent two personal messages to Cloudbet via this forum that have also gone unanswered.

Incidentally....even if I am going senile and BetVIP HAD issued me with bonuses, the way I bet both in terms of stake size and frequency, I would have satisfied any bonus requirements in no time at all. But as I say, I only had my join up bonus.
I have never been so pissed off in my life. It's not a huge amount but it is mine and  I'd rather have it than someone else steal it from me.
How people can just get email after email and totally ignore them for this length of time is also truly beyond me.

Thanks Tony. I'll wait to hear from Cloudbet and PM you on this off board.

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Cheers mate.
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July 14, 2015, 10:57:32 AM
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Cheers mate.
Its cloudbet, they're idiots, disgrace to customer service and are impossible to reach. If you get paid EVER it won't be for months I bet and honestly I doubt you will at all.

They can prove solvency but they can't prove professionalism. They really can't and its sad, its been multiple years and SOMEONE on their admin table is at least paying good for good site development (with all the lights and glamour...).

I'm a lover not a hater. I'm a scam buster misunderstood. However, this forum is full of haters which is why you see my trust. They can't handle my success so they try to stop me...BUT NO ONE STOPS MY SUCCESS! ....Find Quickseller annoying? Click the "ignore" button below his name! You're welcome!
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July 14, 2015, 11:10:11 AM
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betcoin.ag - scam

I tried to withdraw...3238 chips -> litecoin

got mail jul., 13 at 10:50



I confirmed immediately after receiving the email...

after 5.5 hours (jul., 13 at 16:23) got next mail...



but...



http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Lb48ptpfiQDLiRoGKaozHVR1yRwShxnujv
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/a5d887be16045e99d964c18ea43c4ecb8dfd135e906d3fbe33bdd12a0b59f9f8

202.375 - 199.63008631 = 2.74491369

I had to wait 5.5 hours and in addition got less than I should...SCAM
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