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August 29, 2022, 06:00:21 PM
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So far sportsbet has a World Cup contest. https://sportsbet.io/promotions/2022-road-to-qatar

50 mBTC BCT survivor contest with no one in yet. Aug 31 deadline.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408885.new#new

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August 29, 2022, 07:04:56 PM
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Posters and books - feel free to post about any upcoming World Cup contests.



Football fever is here! The action will run on Clubhouse from the start of the EPL season, all the way up to the start of the world’s biggest football festival in Qatar.

To help celebrate the build-up to the most important event in Qatar this year, we’ve got 3 top raffles headed your way worth 45,000 USDT, along with four golden chances to win a package with flight tickets to Qatar, football tickets to watch the beautiful game live, and a 5-star hotel stay!

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September 01, 2022, 01:38:16 AM
Last edit: January 27, 2023, 01:45:26 AM by mprep
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If anyone plays at the NF, please post reviews.

Not rated.
Action247.ag
anonymbet.co
csgo500.com
Mint.io
Latinbet24.com
Loot.bet
Wintomato.com
roobet.com
coinroyale.com
Decibet.com (2022)
sportbet.one
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NFL season starting soon. Any more contests? Sportsbet has on for the World Cup and Nitrogen has one for the NFL. The NFL season starts next week so if there are anymore survivor or handicapping contests, I'll try to post them.



NFL handicapping https://www.betcoin.ag/comment/104121
NFL Survivor https://nitrobetting.eu/guides/2022-nitro-nfl-survivor-pool/

World Cup https://sportsbet.io/promotions/2022-road-to-qatar





"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)   
playbetr.com A- (2019)         

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C- (2013) 
Bitsler.com C- (2015)   
maverickgames.com C- (2020)
Trustdice.win C- (2019)
Owl.games C- (2021)
Rollbit.com C- (2021)

D and F RATED BOOKS ARE HIGH RISK BOOKS AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED

"D" rated books

Betnomi.com D+ (2020)
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)
Bitgame.com D+ (2015)
Moonbet.io D+ (2022)
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)
Rocketpot.io D+ (2019)
Wolf.bet D+ (2019)
1xbit.com D (2016)
AceDbets.io D (2020)
Bet365crypto.net D (2021)
aidibets.io/sport D-
Betop.gg D- (2021)   
mysticbets.io D- (2022)



Not rated.
Action247.ag
anonymbet.co
csgo500.com
Mint.io
Latinbet24.com
Loot.bet
Wintomato.com
roobet.com
coinroyale.com
Decibet.com (2022)
sportbet.one
Yas.bet




   

Exchanges
betadda.com (2022)
exbet.io (2019)
fairlay.com (2014)
degens.com (2017)
sportx.bet (2019)
tru.bet

Prediction Markets
augur.net (2015)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
freebitco.in
thunderpick.com

Brokers
asianconnect88.com (2014)
betinasia.com

Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.




NFL season starting soon. Any more contests? Sportsbet has on for the World Cup and Nitrogen has one for the NFL. The NFL season starts next week so if there are anymore survivor or handicapping contests, I'll try to post them.
I want to understand you directly, does it mean that anyone who want to contest will go directly to those platforms you listen above this my post, you will just access it directly from the site. Because accessing it from the site.just give me explanation of this season in case I'm misunderstanding you please.

Survivor contests are open until the game starts tonight. Here's the link. https://nitrobetting.eu/contests/?contestType=nitro-survivor  The World Cup doesn't have direct links but I'll post those closer to the start.



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"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)   
playbetr.com A- (2019)         

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C- (2013) 
Bitsler.com C- (2015)   
maverickgames.com C- (2020)
Trustdice.win C- (2019)
Owl.games C- (2021)
Rollbit.com C- (2021)




"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)   
playbetr.com A- (2019)         

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
Bitsler.com C+ (2015)
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
Bitgame.com C- (2015) 
Trustdice.win C- (2019)   
Loot.bet  C- (2016)
maverickgames.com C- (2020)
Owl.games C- (2021)
parlayplus.com C- (2019)
Rollbit.com C- (2021)
roobet.com C- (2019)

"D" rated books
Betnomi.com D+ (2020)
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)
Latinbet24.com D+ (2020)
Mint.io D+ (2021)
Moonbet.io D+ (2022)
Rocketpot.io D+ (2019)
sportbet.one D+ (2019)
Wolf.bet D+ (2019)
1xbit.com D (2016)
AceDbets.io D (2020)
Bet365crypto.net D (2021)
Action247.ag
aidibets.io/sport D- (2022)
anonymbet.co D- (2021)
bit555.io D- (2022)
Betop.gg D- (2021)
csgo500.com D-   
Decibet.com (2022)
mysticbets.io D- (2022)
Punt.com D- (2022)
Wintomato.com D- (2021)
Yas.bet D- (2022)



Not rated.
coinroyale.com





Exchanges
betadda.com (2022)
exbet.io (2019)
fairlay.com (2014)
degens.com (2017)
sportx.bet (2019)
tru.bet

Prediction Markets
augur.net (2015)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
freebitco.in
thunderpick.com

Brokers
asianconnect88.com (2014)
betinasia.com

Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.





1xbit moved from "D" to "F"

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1X Corp N.V. (also known as "1xBet") is an online gambling company licensed by Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus. In 2019, they experienced considerable growth, briefly sponsoring Chelsea FC and Liverpool FC before being ousted for their involvement in illegal activities.

Initially a Russian Casino, it expanded its online presence in 2014 by partnering with 'BookmakerPub'. It maintains operations in Malta, Cyprus and Abuja (Nigeria).

As of January 2022, 1xBet no longer appears to be located in Curaçao after filing for bankruptcy. A lawsuit against the company and its licensor remain open. The website continues to operate online.
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Following an investigation by The Sunday Times in 2019, 1xBet's license was rescinded by the UK Gambling Commission (UKGC) after revelations of involvement "promoting a "pornhub casino", bets on children's sports and advertising on illegal websites."[1]

Despite legal issues in the United Kingdom, as of 2020, 1xBet continued to sponsor FC Barcelona, Seria A, and the Confederation of African Football (CAF), among various other sports.[2]

1xBet retains its reputation as one of the world's most controversial betting firms, featuring on Russia's payment processor and Federal Tax Service blacklist.[3][4]

The website has had its access restricted in numerous countries, including: Russia, UK, USA, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal, Burkina Faso, Israel, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium.[5]


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In early 2020, awareness was raised of an ongoing scam involving embezzlement and unlawful practice, highlighting attention through diplomatic channels.[6]

Later in August 2020, the Directorate of the Investigative Committee for the Russian Bryansk Region released the names of the supposed creators of 1xBet. These are "Sergey Karshkov", "Roman Semiokhin" and "Dmitry Kazorin".[7]

The trio are suspected of organizing the online bookmaker 1xBet, and are defendants in a criminal case, with penalty of imprisonment. A number of estates in Russia with a total value of 1.5 billion rubles were seized.[7]

The UK has put them on the international wanted list - all three have Cypriot citizenship.[8]

In 2021, Parlan Law Firm announced a search for victims of 1Xbet in Russia. The company has organized a service for filing applications to the investigative committee. They filed a lawsuit against the owner of the Russian version of 1Xbet - bookmaker 1XStavka.[9

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In November 2021 1xBet's subsidiary company, 1xCorp MV, filed for bankruptcy [10] in a Curaçao court after it refused to refund a group of gamblers represented by the foundation for curaçao gaming victims, SBGOK[permanent dead link].

The individuals state that 1xBet structurally denies the legitimate wins of players with millions of euros in unpaid winnings.[11]

On 10 December 2021, the SBGOK foundation appealed this decision and subsequently filed a complaint against Cyberluck, its licensor, which operates under the name 'Curaçao e-Gaming (CEG)', as well as the Gaming Control Board in Curaçao.[citation needed]

"According to SBGOK, the company is not only partly responsible for the fraud by 1xBet. The foundation claims that Cyberluck also actively cooperates in flouting the rules against money laundering by 1xBet".[11]

The Curaçao court has yet to decide on the appeal, although the issue reached Parliamentary questions in Netherlands.[12]



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There are a few complaints about slow plays at Betnomi. I'm waiting on a reply for a reason why.



The Betnomi player that contacted me has been paid. There are other complaints in the Betnomi thread but the validity hasn't been confirmed.

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October 21, 2022, 08:56:44 PM
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Betcoin recently blocked my account and refuse to pay out my balance.
The reason for blocking my account was "violation of our terms of service", but when I asked, what exactly I did wrong they never answer for my email.
I was betting on this site for more than 2 years, first they limit my account so I can bet like up to 50$ and then they just banned me and keep the money...
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October 21, 2022, 09:34:06 PM
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https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/betcoin.ag
These are crooks.on forums and groups legends are spread about their scams.countless people were injured.
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October 22, 2022, 09:33:06 AM
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Nitrobetting added a mid season survivor contest. Sportsbet has a World Cup contest. Everyone is free to post about WC contests. Please don't be redundant with the posts and only post once about each contest. I'll update World Cup contests on occasion but everyone is free to make one post.

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October 25, 2022, 04:26:01 PM
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Betcoin recently blocked my account and refuse to pay out my balance.
The reason for blocking my account was "violation of our terms of service", but when I asked, what exactly I did wrong they never answer for my email.
I was betting on this site for more than 2 years, first they limit my account so I can bet like up to 50$ and then they just banned me and keep the money...

This is unequivocally false. Player was informed clearly which TOS he had violated, and his deposit was returned, despite having received thousands of dollars in payouts, during which time we were unaware of his violations.

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October 25, 2022, 06:25:29 PM
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Looks like something has changed on playbetr and betcoin, or I don't understand how you have rated them with an A. There are some scam acusations on both sites lately.
In my case my two accounts was blocked same day (hey what about privacy??) . After asking to support email they said I was making arbitrage betting and that was against the TOS.
I can prove that this is completly false.
Their thread are moderated so they delete the posts they don't like.
I recomend you to avoid those casinos, look for a better and safer alternative
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October 25, 2022, 07:08:11 PM
Last edit: October 26, 2022, 02:04:46 PM by Betcoin.AG
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Looks like something has changed on playbetr and betcoin, or I don't understand how you have rated them with an A. There are some scam acusations on both sites lately.
In my case my two accounts was blocked same day (hey what about privacy??) . After asking to support email they said I was making arbitrage betting and that was against the TOS.
I can prove that this is completly false.
Their thread are moderated so they delete the posts they don't like.
I recomend you to avoid those casinos, look for a better and safer alternative

We don't delete comments on our thread unless they are spam. We respond to every accusation. We also are happy to pay any player who contacts a 3rd party mediator, that decides in their favor. But people like you don't do that. You just spam and defame, hoping that we will pay you to shut up.

As stated, your account was suspended after our odds providers confirmed that you were using banned technology to guarantee yourself wins. This is a violation of our terms. Your deposit was refunded. This matter is closed.

You are right about 1 thing, though, many things have changed at Betcoin. We added 3 new sportsbooks to the mix and suddenly hundreds of abusive accounts, like yours, flocked to the sites to take advantage. Additionally, we have teamed up with the odds providers and other reputable sportsbooks to stop the abuse which has been plaguing Bitcoin sites for years. Make sure and let your cheater friends know so that they can find new careers.

The real losers in these situations are the legitimate players, as your measly winnings (about $40) are inconsequential, but the time and money we spend stopping cheaters takes away from our ability to improve and offer new promotions to the vast majority of legitimate players.

As always, Betcoin is offering the fastest withdrawals, best service and top promotions to the immensely growing community of legitimate players. Best of luck to all!


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October 25, 2022, 08:29:36 PM
Last edit: January 11, 2023, 01:29:09 PM by mprep
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Thanks to kwadrat for bringing up his concern and thanks to Betcoin for replying. I'm always willing to listen to complaints for ratings purposes. kwadrat, I won't mediate but I can look into the case for ratings purposes if you PM me permission to look into your account.

Also thanks to paxaman as the same goes with your concern.




"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)   
playbetr.com A- (2019)         

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
Bitsler.com C+ (2015)
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
Bitgame.com C- (2015) 
Trustdice.win C- (2019)   
Loot.bet  C- (2016)
maverickgames.com C- (2020)
Owl.games C- (2021)
parlayplus.com C- (2019)
Rollbit.com C- (2021)
roobet.com C- (2019)

"D" rated books
Betnomi.com D+ (2020)
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)
Latinbet24.com D+ (2020)
Mint.io D+ (2021)
Moonbet.io D+ (2022)
Rocketpot.io D+ (2019)
sportbet.one D+ (2019)
Wolf.bet D+ (2019)
AceDbets.io D (2020)
Bet365crypto.net D (2021)
Action247.ag
aidibets.io/sport D- (2022)
anonymbet.co D- (2021)
bit555.io D- (2022)
Betop.gg D- (2021)
csgo500.com D-   
Decibet.com (2022)
mysticbets.io D- (2022)
Punt.com D- (2022)
Wintomato.com D- (2021)
Yas.bet D- (2022)



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chips.gg
coinroyale.com




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October 28, 2022, 04:11:56 PM
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Opened an account with Playbetr and assumed I wouldn't be asked for KYC Docs, but got asked after first withdrawal. My account was in deficit as well. This seems to align with what previous posters have said.

https://imgur.com/a/whdG5Fm

Consider moving down the rankings maybe?
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October 28, 2022, 07:43:24 PM
Last edit: October 28, 2022, 08:55:27 PM by PlayBetr
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Opened an account with Playbetr and assumed I wouldn't be asked for KYC Docs, but got asked after first withdrawal. My account was in deficit as well. This seems to align with what previous posters have said.

https://imgur.com/a/whdG5Fm

Consider moving down the rankings maybe?

You opened an account from the same device as a previous account, signed up from a region where 95% of players are abusive and 20 of your 27 bets are on amateur, U19 and women's leagues.

None of that means that you, yourself, are abusive, but due to multiple red flags, we need to identify you so you cannot open any additional accounts. We have said it before that the players who are abusive are hurting the industry as a whole, and this is a perfect example. We don't want to do KYC on anyone, but due to overwhelming recent fraud, we are forced to get it from players who have certain patterns.

Complete the KYC, let's get you down to 1 account and figure out how to move forward.

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October 29, 2022, 08:08:31 AM
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Betcoin recently blocked my account and refuse to pay out my balance.
The reason for blocking my account was "violation of our terms of service", but when I asked, what exactly I did wrong they never answer for my email.
I was betting on this site for more than 2 years, first they limit my account so I can bet like up to 50$ and then they just banned me and keep the money...

This is unequivocally false. Player was informed clearly which TOS he had violated, and his deposit was returned, despite having received thousands of dollars in payouts, during which time we were unaware of his violations.


You just pick my lowest deposit and returned 5mBTC  Wink
You can keep the money, I just wanted to warn other players, there is a lot more trust worthy sportsbook than betcoin.
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October 29, 2022, 02:06:48 PM
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You just pick my lowest deposit and returned 5mBTC  Wink
You can keep the money, I just wanted to warn other players, there is a lot more trust worthy sportsbook than betcoin.

You have been playing off 1 deposit since we switched systems over 2 years ago. You have received 50x that amount in withdrawals, since. If anything, that is proof that we welcome winning players, as long as they play fairly. No KYC or anything for over 3 years.

Then we found out you had been violating our TOS the entire time. So yes, please do warn other abusive that we are now able to clearly detect this type of play and it will no longer be rewarded. We have many legitimate winning players receiving much larger amounts in minutes. Betcoin remains one of the safest places to play, with the best service and fastest withdrawals for those players who are not professional cheats.

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October 29, 2022, 08:52:45 PM
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You just pick my lowest deposit and returned 5mBTC  Wink
You can keep the money, I just wanted to warn other players, there is a lot more trust worthy sportsbook than betcoin.

You have been playing off 1 deposit since we switched systems over 2 years ago. You have received 50x that amount in withdrawals, since. If anything, that is proof that we welcome winning players, as long as they play fairly. No KYC or anything for over 3 years.

Then we found out you had been violating our TOS the entire time. So yes, please do warn other abusive that we are now able to clearly detect this type of play and it will no longer be rewarded. We have many legitimate winning players receiving much larger amounts in minutes. Betcoin remains one of the safest places to play, with the best service and fastest withdrawals for those players who are not professional cheats.

I have not played for 2 years, because you limited my max bet to less than 1mBTC.
You keep saying that I've been violating TOS, but still don't answer what I did to violate it.
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October 30, 2022, 07:52:58 AM
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Opened an account with Playbetr and assumed I wouldn't be asked for KYC Docs, but got asked after first withdrawal. My account was in deficit as well. This seems to align with what previous posters have said.

https://imgur.com/a/whdG5Fm

Consider moving down the rankings maybe?

You opened an account from the same device as a previous account, signed up from a region where 95% of players are abusive and 20 of your 27 bets are on amateur, U19 and women's leagues.

None of that means that you, yourself, are abusive, but due to multiple red flags, we need to identify you so you cannot open any additional accounts. We have said it before that the players who are abusive are hurting the industry as a whole, and this is a perfect example. We don't want to do KYC on anyone, but due to overwhelming recent fraud, we are forced to get it from players who have certain patterns.

Complete the KYC, let's get you down to 1 account and figure out how to move forward.


I would like to understand one thing. You propose bets on particular leagues but clearly if players bet on them it is suspicious? You talk about arbitrage but you have to take into account that some players try to find value bets by comparing the odds with those of your competitors and if they are advantageous it is worth betting on them. You shouldn't call all players cheaters when some are just trying to bet intelligently. Again, if you are losing money or suspecting everyone who bets on women's leagues, u19 etc, why do you offer them?
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October 30, 2022, 01:15:44 PM
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Again, if you are losing money or suspecting everyone who bets on women's leagues, u19 etc, why do you offer them?

Do you also ask why a woman dressed a certain way if she didn't want to be harassed? Stop blaming the victim. Those are the events that are most commonly abused. There are clear patterns of play among the players who abuse those leagues. Not everyone who bets on them is suspicious. We gave multiple reasons this player received KYC. Had we not given a reason, you would have said we are a scam. When we give a reason, you pick it apart. We offer those leagues because they are fun to bet on for legitimate players. People who think we shouldn't offer leagues because they are more easily abused are stifling the industry. We aren't going to stop being fun because of cheaters. The cheaters need to stop cheating.

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I have requested to just withdraw my deposited sum from playbetr rather than give them KYC details, I'll keep you updated on this thread on whether that is successful or not.
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November 04, 2022, 12:44:38 PM
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I have requested to just withdraw my deposited sum from playbetr rather than give them KYC details, I'll keep you updated on this thread on whether that is successful or not.

Paid this player his balance in full, without KYC, 5 days ago, at which time he was informed that if he creates any new accounts the balance will be seized. He immediately created an additional account. He will not be receiving any funds on this one. Reporting this early, to get ahead of when he creates his new BitcoinTalk account to accuse us of being unfair.

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