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Suprised there is not more talk on the big sell off. It's suspect Volder is doing it as he normally knows insider info, regardless of his claims he doesn't.
This has me and a lot of others very worried. Anyone know anything?
If it was just volder I would say no big deal...But when other big people follow suit...ya I'd be worried...they even all almost say the same reasons for wanting to get out...But they might be stuck...cause who has that amount of cash lying around |
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Honeycutt22
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September 26, 2014, 12:26:32 PM |
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Suprised there is not more talk on the big sell off. It's suspect Volder is doing it as he normally knows insider info, regardless of his claims he doesn't.
This has me and a lot of others very worried. Anyone know anything?
If it was just volder I would say no big deal...But when other big people follow suit...ya I'd be worried...they even all almost say the same reasons for wanting to get out...But they might be stuck...cause who has that amount of cash lying around Yea, they know something but obviously can't say that. Suppose they think we are dumb enough to believe they have no inside info. It's been know for a long time Volder did, but not sure about Russian. |
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not.you
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September 26, 2014, 12:54:26 PM |
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Wow. It looks like this thing is unraveling much faster than I expected.
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September 26, 2014, 01:05:50 PM |
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Wow. It looks like this thing is unraveling much faster than I expected.
You are probably going to have to wait for a long time to see the end. |
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September 26, 2014, 01:14:11 PM
Last edit: September 26, 2014, 02:46:40 PM by NuShrike |
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After yesterday, the payouts minus the increasing fees, are starting to equal everybody else (by my ass calculations). Maybe that's why the whales are getting out?
edit (after fees):
yesterday's true payout: 0.000391483125 / MH
today's true payout: 0.00041946125 / MH
Seems about par with WestHash. I'm doing better, so far, with a G-Blade hashing custom scrypt selections.
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September 26, 2014, 01:27:06 PM |
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This reminds me of a typical btc crash panic. Someone decided to sell, all others think he has insider info and sell too, but what if all sell and nobody wants to buy? Crying and blaming... I read this interesting post on hashtalk and think you should too: @FinalHash said: > Guys... calm down... > > There are no issues with Project Prime. @GAW_CEO and I talk everyday (obviously about the conference and other things.) I am sure @volder just needs airfare and room and food to come to the conference...  LOL but in all seriousness, there is no issue with anything. If a man wants to sell his hashlets, then let him. This community is by far the strangest IMO. Josh goes above and WELL BEYOND to hook you guys up. This community is by far the most blessed community but the weird thing is nobody notices that. It seems like you guys get everything you asked for and then continue to want more and more and more when there is literally nothing else to give. Due to the nature of the amazing service gaw offers, makes them to top competitor in cloud mining and just crypto services in general. However, i guess it is a slippery slope. I myself am a Miner and FinalHash, LLC has plenty of rigs and contracts (mostly for private customers). I can tell you that my managers do not come close to the level of bending over backwards that josh's team does. (I'm the CTO so don't do as much customer service as my managers) And yet it seems like you guys are more dissatisfied than satisfied. Just my thoughts is all guys. So, i digress. No @volder is not selling his contracts because of some "BIG PROBLEM" or any kind of stupid crap like that. Can't a man just sell some miners without getting crap loads of flak from everyone? |
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September 26, 2014, 01:29:30 PM |
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This reminds me of a typical btc crash panic. Someone decided to sell, all others think he has insider info and sell too, but what if all sell and nobody wants to buy? Crying and blaming... I read this interesting post on hashtalk and think you should too: @FinalHash said: > Guys... calm down... > > There are no issues with Project Prime. @GAW_CEO and I talk everyday (obviously about the conference and other things.) I am sure @volder just needs airfare and room and food to come to the conference... LOL but in all seriousness, there is no issue with anything. If a man wants to sell his hashlets, then let him. This community is by far the strangest IMO. Josh goes above and WELL BEYOND to hook you guys up. This community is by far the most blessed community but the weird thing is nobody notices that. It seems like you guys get everything you asked for and then continue to want more and more and more when there is literally nothing else to give. Due to the nature of the amazing service gaw offers, makes them to top competitor in cloud mining and just crypto services in general. However, i guess it is a slippery slope. I myself am a Miner and FinalHash, LLC has plenty of rigs and contracts (mostly for private customers). I can tell you that my managers do not come close to the level of bending over backwards that josh's team does. (I'm the CTO so don't do as much customer service as my managers) And yet it seems like you guys are more dissatisfied than satisfied. Just my thoughts is all guys. So, i digress. No @volder is not selling his contracts because of some "BIG PROBLEM" or any kind of stupid crap like that. Can't a man just sell some miners without getting crap loads of flak from everyone? CULT. |
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September 26, 2014, 03:01:37 PM |
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Does't matter how bad it fails... in the end, Josh will still be a millionaire from everyone elses money!
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September 26, 2014, 03:05:21 PM |
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Bought 1 MHs a while back and kinda forgot bout it . As far as I can remember (would have to check debit card history though...) I paid like 25 bucks for it. Seems like I got one mhs more as a gift and now I can sell them both for total of ~$50. Are they really going to buy it back for twice the price? |
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September 26, 2014, 03:28:27 PM |
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From hashwank. suggestions on HYIP that accept bitcoins
hi friends any one here using any form of HYIP that accepts bitcoins ?
it should be trusted(at least for now lol)
short term investment (max 60 days)
:grinning: If that's the level of "investors" well good luck fella. |
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September 26, 2014, 03:57:17 PM |
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Bought 1 MHs a while back and kinda forgot bout it . As far as I can remember (would have to check debit card history though...) I paid like 25 bucks for it. Seems like I got one mhs more as a gift and now I can sell them both for total of ~$50. Are they really going to buy it back for twice the price? Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers) |
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September 26, 2014, 04:01:18 PM |
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So a buddy of mine on the site got banned under the guise of "attacking a moderator".. All he was saying was regardless if it's true or not, people think Volder has inside info. And as Volder has stated himself, he talks to Josh daily which makes this whole thing extremely suspect.
As far as the moderator goes - He basically just said why are you even responding to my comment - it's specifically directed at Volder and has nothing to do with you.
So basically - Not even directly saying insider trading is going, but merely saying the perception is there and has caused damaged to the trust of the company gets you shadow banned.
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September 26, 2014, 04:13:57 PM |
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Suprised there is not more talk on the big sell off. It's suspect Volder is doing it as he normally knows insider info, regardless of his claims he doesn't.
This has me and a lot of others very worried. Anyone know anything?
If it was just volder I would say no big deal...But when other big people follow suit...ya I'd be worried...they even all almost say the same reasons for wanting to get out...But they might be stuck...cause who has that amount of cash lying around Yea, they know something but obviously can't say that. Suppose they think we are dumb enough to believe they have no inside info. It's been know for a long time Volder did, but not sure about Russian. I think they both stand to make a decent amount of money if they can sell those accounts and for that there doesn't have to be any sinister motivation or insider knowledge (aside maybe from the initial buy-in at $16). It's just the fact that volder the cheerleader is bailing makes a lot of customers uneasy. Even if he doesn't have inside info this makes it look like he doesn't believe there is a lot of upside in the future. The only "reason" for the sell off as far as I could see was that he needs cash for his reseller business but that was posted by someone else, not volder himself. And yes, there are many 100+ and some 1000+ accounts for sale. I doubt they'll be getting anywhere near $40 per. |
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September 26, 2014, 04:16:41 PM |
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Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers) One I bought is Prime one I got as a gift is Solo. Put them both on sale, will let you know how fast (or if ) they sell. |
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September 26, 2014, 04:18:43 PM |
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Suprised there is not more talk on the big sell off. It's suspect Volder is doing it as he normally knows insider info, regardless of his claims he doesn't.
This has me and a lot of others very worried. Anyone know anything?
If it was just volder I would say no big deal...But when other big people follow suit...ya I'd be worried...they even all almost say the same reasons for wanting to get out...But they might be stuck...cause who has that amount of cash lying around Yea, they know something but obviously can't say that. Suppose they think we are dumb enough to believe they have no inside info. It's been know for a long time Volder did, but not sure about Russian. I think they both stand to make a decent amount of money if they can sell those accounts and for that there doesn't have to be any sinister motivation or insider knowledge (aside maybe from the initial buy-in at $16). It's just the fact that volder the cheerleader is bailing makes a lot of customers uneasy. Even if he doesn't have inside info this makes it look like he doesn't believe there is a lot of upside in the future. The only "reason" for the sell off as far as I could see was that he needs cash for his reseller business but that was posted by someone else, not volder himself. And yes, there are many 100+ and some 1000+ accounts for sale. I doubt they'll be getting anywhere near $40 per. Agreed and one of the major issues I have is the fact I personally sent Josh a fairly lengthy and detailed letter explaining the perception of Volder's inside info over a month ago... And obviously nothing was done, because Volder continued to imply and make references to what he knew and how chummy him and Josh are. They refer to each other by NAME, not by screen name. The reasoning for my email was to prevent something EXACTLY like this from happening. So, frankly Josh knew about this issue long ago and didn't nothing - So, this fiasco is their fault completely. I don't care if it's true or not, it's what people think that really matters. Very seldom is the truth important anyway. Perception is 99% of reality, and people are upset, worried, and doubting GAW heavily and rightfully so. |
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September 26, 2014, 04:44:32 PM |
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Finally they are throwing a bone to Genesis owners by raising payout. (Yes I own some, don't ask me why...)
I wonder if that has anything to do with big Genesis owner ru55ian putting his account on the market and complaining that he wasn't making enough.
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September 26, 2014, 05:15:08 PM |
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Finally they are throwing a bone to Genesis owners by raising payout. (Yes I own some, don't ask me why...)
I wonder if that has anything to do with big Genesis owner ru55ian putting his account on the market and complaining that he wasn't making enough.
Do you mean re-adding NiceHash, or is there something else going on? I wonder what they did (if anything) to protect against NH pump. |
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September 26, 2014, 05:17:58 PM |
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Finally they are throwing a bone to Genesis owners by raising payout. (Yes I own some, don't ask me why...)
I wonder if that has anything to do with big Genesis owner ru55ian putting his account on the market and complaining that he wasn't making enough.
Do you mean re-adding NiceHash, or is there something else going on? I wonder what they did (if anything) to protect against NH pump. No, Josh specifically stated it's still possible and they will monitor the situation daily, but he had to do something for SHA because of the horrible returns. |
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September 26, 2014, 05:19:27 PM |
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Wow. It looks like this thing is unraveling much faster than I expected.
You are probably going to have to wait for a long time to see the end. Well that's what I was expecting but it sounds like the big guys selling is putting some fear into the masses. If this is a ponzi (which I totally believe it is for whatever that is worth) then fear on the part of investors is just the kind of thing that would make it fall apart. |
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September 26, 2014, 05:20:45 PM |
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Finally they are throwing a bone to Genesis owners by raising payout. (Yes I own some, don't ask me why...)
I wonder if that has anything to do with big Genesis owner ru55ian putting his account on the market and complaining that he wasn't making enough.
Do you mean re-adding NiceHash, or is there something else going on? I wonder what they did (if anything) to protect against NH pump. They didn't re-add NiceHash but the top paying "pool" is now at .0000255 which was about what nice was before they removed it. I think they protect against pump by just making up the numbers now instead of pretending to follow real pools. |
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