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[Patek]

Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you

Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers)

Both Prime and Solo are gone. Took it like 2 hours.

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[chmick]

Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you

Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers)

Both Prime and Solo are gone. Took it like 2 hours.

you re kind of lucky.

I have prime and waffle to sell for at least a week now and nothing .

[MOB]

Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you

Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers)

Both Prime and Solo are gone. Took it like 2 hours.

you re kind of lucky.

I have prime and waffle to sell for at least a week now and nothing .

Try cancelling the sale then re-submitting them for sale. I did that to my last few stragglers and they sold within 24 hours.




About the Volder situation--if one can do basic math then you can see that selling is the only logical move. No insider info required (not that there might not be some of that as well).

We are at the point that most people who bought at $16 are well over 60% ROI'ed, but to make another 60% will take more than twice as long. By simply selling, one can get ROI+50-100% and do so within a few days.

To not do so is a very large gamble on future BTC prices, GAW, and against new and less expensive miners coming out in the next four months+. Cash in hand can be redeployed in new investments or be waiting to catch the bottom of the BTC slide.

At the very least, I would urge people to put up their miners for sale on the marketplace and reduce their holdings by 50%.



edit: by the numbers, I would only consider a miner a good investment if they could reasonably ROI within 90 days, after all, the point is not to not lose money, but to actually make money above your initial costs.

That would put the price of a prime around $12-$14.


edit2: I wonder how long until my hashtalk account gets banned again? Anyone want to take bets? ;p

[Honeycutt22]

Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you

Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers)

Both Prime and Solo are gone. Took it like 2 hours.

you re kind of lucky.

I have prime and waffle to sell for at least a week now and nothing .

Try cancelling the sale then re-submitting them for sale. I did that to my last few stragglers and they sold within 24 hours.




About the Volder situation--if one can do basic math then you can see that selling is the only logical move. No insider info required (not that there might not be some of that as well).

We are at the point that most people who bought at $16 are well over 60% ROI'ed, but to make another 60% will take more than twice as long. By simply selling, one can get ROI+50-100% and do so within a few days.

To not do so is a very large gamble on future BTC prices, GAW, and against new and less expensive miners coming out in the next four months+. Cash in hand can be redeployed in new investments or be waiting to catch the bottom of the BTC slide.

At the very least, I would urge people to put up their miners for sale on the marketplace and reduce their holdings by 50%.



edit: by the numbers, I would only consider a miner a good investment if they could reasonably ROI within 90 days, after all, the point is not to not lose money, but to actually make money above your initial costs.

That would put the price of a prime around $12-$14.


edit2: I wonder how long until my hashtalk account gets banned again? Anyone want to take bets? ;p

Yea, they are way over zealous with the shadow ban... I barely did anything.. Didn't even get a warning and was shadow banned.. THey didn't even tell me.

[crashoveride54902]

Which one is the gift? Some sell quite well, like Zen. I can't sell Waffle for a week now. I don't know about Primes, but you can go ahead and let us know how it works out for you

Remember, it only sells if someone buys it for a full price on ZenCloud (last time I looked it wasn't linked with gawminers.com or resellers)

Both Prime and Solo are gone. Took it like 2 hours.

been over 24hrs for mine i just listed them yesterday all with different names and still nothing

[suchmoon]

shadow banned.. THey didn't even tell me.

That's the "shadow" part

Which is weird, because the official version that I've seen is that shadow ban is used for spammers so that they would continue spamming (as opposed to registering a new account I guess) but nobody would see them. Were you spamming? Selling Viagra on hashtalk perhaps?

[Honeycutt22]

shadow banned.. THey didn't even tell me.

That's the "shadow" part

Which is weird, because the official version that I've seen is that shadow ban is used for spammers so that they would continue spamming (as opposed to registering a new account I guess) but nobody would see them. Were you spamming? Selling Viagra on hashtalk perhaps?

Nah, I was simply stating what everyone was thinking... More or less summarized why everyone was freaking out about Volder selling his lot... It's because in the past he has heavily implied and hinted at having insider information, so when he sold everyone believed it was for good reason.

ONe of the mods was instigating an argument with me by making fun of my points, so I very politely told him it was really none of his business as my comments were directed at Josh and Volder. They said I "attacked him" and shadow banned me.

Josh doesn't care about this issue obviously because he's allowed it to fester and continue even after being formally notified. He also declines to respond to any follow up on the matter.

[bitgeek]

What response do you expect of him? You want him to say he's sorry that you were banned or what? You were banned by an admin so why should Josh care?
Why don't you simply quote your response that was called attack. Let us decide if it was polite or not.

[MOB]

Did you sell your account yet Honey? Or are you?

[Honeycutt22]

What response do you expect of him? You want him to say he's sorry that you were banned or what? You were banned by an admin so why should Josh care?
Why don't you simply quote your response that was called attack. Let us decide if it was polite or not.

You obviously misunderstood my post. I could care less I was banned. Re read, understand, then reply.

[Honeycutt22]

Did you sell your account yet Honey? Or are you?

Dunno yet. Can't really right now lol. Selling my primes doesn't work, can't even split them. And obviously can't post atm!! Ahhat

[bitgeek]

What response do you expect of him? You want him to say he's sorry that you were banned or what? You were banned by an admin so why should Josh care?
Why don't you simply quote your response that was called attack. Let us decide if it was polite or not.

You obviously misunderstood my post. I could care less I was banned. Re read, understand, then reply.

Never seen anyone banned for politeness.

[Honeycutt22]

What response do you expect of him? You want him to say he's sorry that you were banned or what? You were banned by an admin so why should Josh care?
Why don't you simply quote your response that was called attack. Let us decide if it was polite or not.

You obviously misunderstood my post. I could care less I was banned. Re read, understand, then reply.

Never seen anyone banned for politeness.

Still having difficulty with your reading comprehension I see.

[Honeycutt22]

This is my response AFTER he intigated the issue by making fun of my posts. Frankly, it's extremely polite IMO.

"Again... I NEVER said YOU or resellers... Please read my comments again. I'm referring specifically to Volder. This has been an issue in the past and continues to be so... And look at what the perception has caused.

I've even made a formal complaint about... At the time I didn't realize Josh and Tim were best of buds and talk daily - So no suprise nothing was resolved.

You can defend all you want - But the perception is there and the damage is being done. Frankly - You're free to discuss but these comments don't even involve you, so I'm bit unsure why you feel the need to inject your rhetoric."

[bitgeek]

What response do you expect of him? You want him to say he's sorry that you were banned or what? You were banned by an admin so why should Josh care?
Why don't you simply quote your response that was called attack. Let us decide if it was polite or not.

You obviously misunderstood my post. I could care less I was banned. Re read, understand, then reply.

Never seen anyone banned for politeness.

Still having difficulty with your reading comprehension I see.

No I don't and still haven't seen that politeness you were banned for.

ONe of the mods was instigating an argument with me by making fun of my points, so I very politely told him it was really none of his business

[Honeycutt22]

What response do you expect of him? You want him to say he's sorry that you were banned or what? You were banned by an admin so why should Josh care?
Why don't you simply quote your response that was called attack. Let us decide if it was polite or not.

You obviously misunderstood my post. I could care less I was banned. Re read, understand, then reply.

Never seen anyone banned for politeness.

Still having difficulty with your reading comprehension I see.

No I don't and still haven't seen that politeness you were banned for.

ONe of the mods was instigating an argument with me by making fun of my points, so I very politely told him it was really none of his business

Seriously... Do you even read these forums are just post without anything? My quote is directly above your post... If you're truely not going to take the time to read and understand these posts, why do you even waste your breath replying?

You're just trolling and contributing nothing. Regardless of your response, I know how biased you are towards GAW anyway. Nothing I say or do will probably satisfy you anyway. I haven't seen one post of yours that denotes any type of critical thinking ability. You blindly follow without any thought, then come on here and attempt to defend and insult. At the very least, you could attempt to validate and have constructive criticism, but nothing...

[suchmoon]

This is my response AFTER he intigated the issue by making fun of my posts. Frankly, it's extremely polite IMO.

"Again... I NEVER said YOU or resellers... Please read my comments again. I'm referring specifically to Volder. This has been an issue in the past and continues to be so... And look at what the perception has caused.

I've even made a formal complaint about... At the time I didn't realize Josh and Tim were best of buds and talk daily - So no suprise nothing was resolved.

You can defend all you want - But the perception is there and the damage is being done. Frankly - You're free to discuss but these comments don't even involve you, so I'm bit unsure why you feel the need to inject your rhetoric."

Hmm... the bar has moved I think. A while ago rdyoung and crashoveride were banned for saying something like "get out of the way and let adults talk" to a mod, which was somewhat less "refined" than your post. Basically the rule now seems to be "disagreeing with a mod for any reason", so best to stay far away from any mods if you ever want to get support or sell hashlets or any other need for hashtalk

[Honeycutt22]

This is my response AFTER he intigated the issue by making fun of my posts. Frankly, it's extremely polite IMO.

"Again... I NEVER said YOU or resellers... Please read my comments again. I'm referring specifically to Volder. This has been an issue in the past and continues to be so... And look at what the perception has caused.

I've even made a formal complaint about... At the time I didn't realize Josh and Tim were best of buds and talk daily - So no suprise nothing was resolved.

You can defend all you want - But the perception is there and the damage is being done. Frankly - You're free to discuss but these comments don't even involve you, so I'm bit unsure why you feel the need to inject your rhetoric."

Hmm... the bar has moved I think. A while ago rdyoung and crashoveride were banned for saying something like "get out of the way and let adults talk" to a mod, which was somewhat less "refined" than your post. Basically the rule now seems to be "disagreeing with a mod for any reason", so best to stay far away from any mods if you ever want to get support or sell hashlets or any other need for hashtalk

Yea, and there is nothing rude in my response.. In fact, the MOD was the one that created the hostile situation. That is about the most polite and tactful way to tell someone to mind their own business... I don't know how else to say it without getting on my knees and sucking his dick, begging him to butt out.

[crashoveride54902]

This is my response AFTER he intigated the issue by making fun of my posts. Frankly, it's extremely polite IMO.

"Again... I NEVER said YOU or resellers... Please read my comments again. I'm referring specifically to Volder. This has been an issue in the past and continues to be so... And look at what the perception has caused.

I've even made a formal complaint about... At the time I didn't realize Josh and Tim were best of buds and talk daily - So no suprise nothing was resolved.

You can defend all you want - But the perception is there and the damage is being done. Frankly - You're free to discuss but these comments don't even involve you, so I'm bit unsure why you feel the need to inject your rhetoric."

Hmm... the bar has moved I think. A while ago rdyoung and crashoveride were banned for saying something like "get out of the way and let adults talk" to a mod, which was somewhat less "refined" than your post. Basically the rule now seems to be "disagreeing with a mod for any reason", so best to stay far away from any mods if you ever want to get support or sell hashlets or any other need for hashtalk

Yea, and there is nothing rude in my response.. In fact, the MOD was the one that created the hostile situation. That is about the most polite and tactful way to tell someone to mind their own business... I don't know how else to say it without getting on my knees and sucking his dick, begging him to butt out.

lol nope...that would get you banned too

[Snorek]

So someone was banned? So? happens all the time everywhere. Discussing that won't change anything and bring nothing to the table. Just keep moving folks, nothing interesting here.