GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[Snorek]

Weekly return on Genesis Mining is a couple percent less than ZenHashlets.

So hashlets are still best option on the market right now? Good to know that.

[ErikvanBreen]

Weekly return on Genesis Mining is a couple percent less than ZenHashlets.

So hashlets are still best option on the market right now? Good to know that.

A Zenhashlet does 0.000625BTC/Day with a maintenance fee of $0.08
$0.08 / $467.88 (Current bitstamp price) = 0.000171BTC/Day of maintenance fee

Actual income per day = 0.000625BTC - 0.000171BTC = 0.000454BTC/Day

Zenhashlet price = $20.95 / $467.88 = 0.0478441BTC at the current Bitstamp price

Current ROI per day = 0.000454BTC / 0.0478441BTC = 0.95%

Expected ROI with no difficulty changes = 105 Days


A Zeushash mining LTC gets 0.03045LTC per day with no maintenance fee (1 year of free hosting)
0.03045LTC * 0.01086 (coinmarket BTC/LTC price) = 0.000331BTC /Day

Zeushash price = $16  / $467.88 = 0.0341968BTC

Current ROI per day = 0.000331BTC / 0.0341968BTC = 0.97%

Expected ROI with no difficulty changes = 103 Days


Conclusion: It all depends on the amount of discount you can get on either the Zenhashlet or Zeushash, the official launch of Zeushash is in 14 days so it might be possible to mine at nicehash etc.. by then which would cause Zeushash to jump forward quite heavily in terms of ROI per day.

These are just my 2 cents, they rely on bitstamp and coinmarket information so please do not feel offended if they become outdated.

[Snorek]

Weekly return on Genesis Mining is a couple percent less than ZenHashlets.

So hashlets are still best option on the market right now? Good to know that.

A Zenhashlet does 0.000625BTC/Day with a maintenance fee of $0.08
$0.08 / $467.88 (Current bitstamp price) = 0.000171BTC/Day of maintenance fee

Actual income per day = 0.000625BTC - 0.000171BTC = 0.000454BTC/Day

Zenhashlet price = $20.95 / $467.88 = 0.0478441BTC at the current Bitstamp price

Current ROI per day = 0.000454BTC / 0.0478441BTC = 0.95%

Expected ROI with no difficulty changes = 105 Days


A Zeushash mining LTC gets 0.03045LTC per day with no maintenance fee (1 year of free hosting)
0.03045LTC * 0.01086 (coinmarket BTC/LTC price) = 0.000331BTC /Day

Zeushash price = $16  / $467.88 = 0.0341968BTC

Current ROI per day = 0.000331BTC / 0.0341968BTC = 0.97%

Expected ROI with no difficulty changes = 103 Days


Conclusion: It all depends on the amount of discount you can get on either the Zenhashlet or Zeushash, the official launch of Zeushash is in 14 days so it might be possible to mine at nicehash etc.. by then which would cause Zeushash to jump forward quite heavily in terms of ROI per day.

These are just my 2 cents, they rely on bitstamp and coinmarket information so please do not feel offended if they become outdated.

So you are saying that it would be somewhat advised to wait and see how they Zeushash will compete with Hashlet? I would like to increase number of hashlets already...

[ErikvanBreen]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best 

[spiceminer15]

100+ days is bad roi especially when you're talking pennies

[ZiG]

100+ days is bad roi especially when you're talking pennies

Yeap...

You are getting your money back in ~100 fays...+ some cents later...

As I said before ...your money = interest free LOAN for GAWMiners for 3+ months...

Capisco...

Cheers,

ZiG

EDIT: ...same like "Pre-orders" ...now "Virtual" pre-orders...

But they GOT your money UPFRONT and are free to do whatever they want with it...

[NuShrike]

#payoutwatch getting usual that it's late or broken.

Website accessibility is more often than not (504 Gateway Time-out) with the recent "upgrades".

[ZiG]

#payoutwatch getting usual that it's late or broken.

Remember "MtGox" ...

Their "problems" started the same way...

Everybody knows the "results"...

Be aware...time will tell...

ZiG

[crazyivan]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best 

You do understand you are talking about something which has not been released yet, not to mention tested. How do you know what their payouts are going to be? Marketing of a not yet existing project, that s nice.

[ErikvanBreen]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best  

You do understand you are talking about something which has not been released yet, not to mention tested. How do you know what their payouts are going to be? Marketing of a not yet existing project, that s nice.

You have no idea, they are already released as a "Beta" product in which they can mine LTC only currently.
Thats why I did all my calculations based on the LTC income from them, their true "official" release is in 14 days when all the other features/possibilities come with it like mining other coins etc...

Please check the product before making accusations Thanks

Edit: And I have 437Mhash in Zeushash for 8 days now, I hope that counts as testing  

[Snorek]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best  

You do understand you are talking about something which has not been released yet, not to mention tested. How do you know what their payouts are going to be? Marketing of a not yet existing project, that s nice.

You have no idea, they are already released as a "Beta" product in which they can mine LTC only currently.
Thats why I did all my calculations based on the LTC income from them, their true "official" release is in 14 days when all the other features/possibilities come with it like mining other coins etc...

Please check the product before making accusations Thanks

Edit: And I have 437Mhash in Zeushash for 8 days now, I hope that counts as testing  

By "check the product" you mean buy it and test it by yourself or just read some comments online? Because people tends to write all kind of weird stuff about everything.

[coinGeek]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best  

You do understand you are talking about something which has not been released yet, not to mention tested. How do you know what their payouts are going to be? Marketing of a not yet existing project, that s nice.

You have no idea, they are already released as a "Beta" product in which they can mine LTC only currently.
Thats why I did all my calculations based on the LTC income from them, their true "official" release is in 14 days when all the other features/possibilities come with it like mining other coins etc...

Please check the product before making accusations Thanks

Edit: And I have 437Mhash in Zeushash for 8 days now, I hope that counts as testing  

Do you think Zeushash is actually mining LTC or are they a script pool that just pays out in LTC? Do they actually say what they are doing anywhere?

I've had some hash there for just a few days. Watching the amount earned for a while it looks like it bumps up in even sized steps at random intervals. It does look a lot like what mining LTC would look like.

[xephyr]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best 

You do understand you are talking about something which has not been released yet, not to mention tested. How do you know what their payouts are going to be? Marketing of a not yet existing project, that s nice.

ZeusHash was quietly released a couple weeks ago and you can buy mH directly from the ZeusMiner site at https://zeusminer.com/product/zeushash-pure-cloud-hashing-power/ even though Zeushash.com has not been launched yet. So far mH on ZeusHash is mining straight litecoin, no multipool available yet. The returns I posted for both ZeusHash and ZenHashlets are my own actual returns after fees paid.

[suchmoon]

Do you think Zeushash is actually mining LTC or are they a script pool that just pays out in LTC? Do they actually say what they are doing anywhere?

I've had some hash there for just a few days. Watching the amount earned for a while it looks like it bumps up in even sized steps at random intervals. It does look a lot like what mining LTC would look like.

FWIW:

https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools

ZeusHash   ~ 37 GH/s

[crazyivan]

I am just trying to say that the Zenpool's high payout can be misleading, it isn't more then any other payout if you deduct the maintenance fee.
The Zenhashlet is almost 24% more expensive then Zeushash which does make the ROI time longer even though the payouts are better.

Do your own calculations and see what suits you best  

You do understand you are talking about something which has not been released yet, not to mention tested. How do you know what their payouts are going to be? Marketing of a not yet existing project, that s nice.

You have no idea, they are already released as a "Beta" product in which they can mine LTC only currently.
Thats why I did all my calculations based on the LTC income from them, their true "official" release is in 14 days when all the other features/possibilities come with it like mining other coins etc...

Please check the product before making accusations Thanks

Edit: And I have 437Mhash in Zeushash for 8 days now, I hope that counts as testing  

Oh I checked review of Zeushash posted by Xephyr who actually uses their service as well. Hers is the link: http://altcoinforum.org/index.php?topic=8.0 According to this data, Zeus brings almost 50% lower ROI compared to GAW. Just to add he has never been wrong with his calculations so far. So if you ask me whether I trust him or you, ah, geeeeee, HIM.

[coinGeek]

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Oh I checked review of Zeushash posted by Xephyr who actually uses their service as well. Hers is the link: http://altcoinforum.org/index.php?topic=8.0 According to this data, Zeus brings almost 50% lower ROI compared to GAW. Just to add he has never been wrong with his calculations so far. So if you ask me whether I trust him or you, ah, geeeeee, HIM.

Thanks for the link. xephyr doesn't mention the 8 cents/MH/day maintenance charge on zen but hopefully he uses it in his calculations. Over a year that works out to over $29 which is more than hashlets cost (except the prime). The real advantage for zen is from the (seemingly) inflated returns for zenpool. Let's hope that continues.

Meanwhile, Zeushash is still in beta. Hopefully the 1.0 product will include more profitable options then just straight LTC.

[tom14cat14]

The big difference is that Zeushash actually mines while Gawminers is based off of lies and got caught lying about mining on pools various times.

They have not really been caught not mining. People just like to say they are not mining anything based on their "great" detective work. They say they cant figure it out so it must be fake.

[bitgeek]

The big difference is that Zeushash actually mines while Gawminers is based off of lies and got caught lying about mining on pools various times.

They have not really been caught not mining. People just like to say they are not mining anything based on their "great" detective work. They say they cant figure it out so it must be fake.

Just a reminder you're talking to a troll and a liar. (check his posts and trust)

[Snorek]

The big difference is that Zeushash actually mines while Gawminers is based off of lies and got caught lying about mining on pools various times.

They have not really been caught not mining. People just like to say they are not mining anything based on their "great" detective work. They say they cant figure it out so it must be fake.

People are talking various random bullshit just to discredit good company, most of their accusations are just based on utter nonsense and words of trolls. Gaw is just solid company, deal with it.

[tom14cat14]

GAW is based off of lies as soon as ZenCloud came into the picture: FACT!

Can you shows me the facts supporting this? Not starting a battle I just want to know the evidence you have to support this so I know whether to invest more or not. Everything I have seen does not support your position but I may have missed something and would like to see what you have supporting your side that makes you so sure. Thank you