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[bitgeek]

Court says “no” to changing terms of service without notification

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/07/court-says-no-to-changing-terms-of-service-without-notification/

A troll quoting law... incredible!
And what does court say about fake claims of stolen money and extortion attempts?

[DARKANGEL6415]

Well Mr asshole josh Garza got my twitter account suspended for what i don't see is a violation of any twitter terms, hes even trying to control twitter dissension, @Jay_Endo1 is my twitter handle, someone here posted one of my tweets here in the past and sent me some btc for posting it, just thought i would share. Edit: this is why i got suspended according to twitter: https://twitter.com/Jay_Endo1/status/531573925516681217

Can't see why you got suspended.

Josh Garza ‏@gawceo  Nov 9
Round two is on track, but I just heard we may have to cancel round three. Round one investors have a large appetite #HashCoin
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JayEndo
‏@Jay_Endo1
@gawceo So you're going to fuck everyone that blindly trusted? Nice JOSH! this is all coming to an end sooner than i thought...
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Nope nothing in their policies that would point to you getting suspended.  I would email twitter and get a full classification as to why you were suspended.

listen to your self folks... email twitter what is that going to do? Have you never heard money makes the world turn. Well when you have like 10 Trillion dollars like gaw has due to hashcoin and friends in powerful banks and you buy out news outlets like gaw what can i say. They maybe bought twitter out and now control it also 

[Oldminer]

A friend of mine (who bought in late & so wasn't in a position to sell without making a loss) made 6c on her 2 x Prime's and 3 x 10ghs genesis a couple of days ago, then earned minus 6c the next day. Hashlets are a super investment...  

"Oh but wait there's more! We got all these amps coming, and and and...."

- GAW_CEO

edit: Personally, I suspect Josh has got so high on the profits from his money making venture that he's lost all touch with reality.

[DARKANGEL6415]

Attention ALL community members here on BitcoinTalk.org

As of today, November 10th, 2014, GAW/Zen has reportedly sought the assistance of a Los Angeles based law firm to issue cease and desist communications to members of THIS public forum, not theirs, in what appears to be an attempt to censor those who have legitimate and factual claims against the alleged less-than ethical business processes and moral standing of GAW/Zen, its "CEO", and the various BDA’s they use.

Irrespective of numerous peoples’ opinions published here and elsewhere on the Internet regarding GAW/Zen continually proving their fundamental M.O. is that of an elaborate SCAM in every sense of the word, this law firm has apparently taken it upon itself to either ignore the harm/losses dozens if not hundreds of previous GAW/Zen customers have been forced to endure or feel it is more appropriate to threaten legal action against those exercising their Constitutional rights rather than facilitating a thorough due-diligence investigation of their own client.

Although I too have received a communication simply titled “Cease and Desist Letter” with a .pdf attachment from this law firm to one of my business email addresses, I refuse to open any such attachments or speculate on what the .pdf specifically says, if anything, as I do not know firsthand who the sender is or if the attachment contains anything potentially damaging to my system or network. Regardless, I would like to invite anyone else who is a US citizen and has also received any communication directly from GAW/Zen, any of their DBA’s, or this (or any other) law firm to contact my Mining Advocates Organization with their story at legal@miningadvocates.org in preparation of the potential establishment of our own legal offensive to ensure this type of conduct by what can be seen as a questionable business, its "CEO", and/or a retained yet misguided law firm is not allowed to overtake the protections guaranteed to us by the United States Constitution and its amended Bill of Rights in addition to Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

Thank you,
Scott Booth

ok so if this is true they want to ignore me and then they going to try to censor / shut us up? Well i to am a american consumer wit hrights but who cares about us little people.

[kebabman]

Well Mr asshole josh Garza got my twitter account suspended for what i don't see is a violation of any twitter terms, hes even trying to control twitter dissension, @Jay_Endo1 is my twitter handle, someone here posted one of my tweets here in the past and sent me some btc for posting it, just thought i would share. Edit: this is why i got suspended according to twitter: https://twitter.com/Jay_Endo1/status/531573925516681217

Can't see why you got suspended.

Josh Garza ‏@gawceo  Nov 9
Round two is on track, but I just heard we may have to cancel round three. Round one investors have a large appetite #HashCoin
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JayEndo
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Nope nothing in their policies that would point to you getting suspended.  I would email twitter and get a full classification as to why you were suspended.

listen to your self folks... email twitter what is that going to do? Have you never heard money makes the world turn. Well when you have like 10 Trillion dollars like gaw has due to hashcoin and friends in powerful banks and you buy out news outlets like gaw what can i say. They maybe bought twitter out and now control it also  

Yeah, that must be it, GAW bought Twitter to censor anyone trying to make negative statements on there about them.  

[suchmoon]

Yeah, that must be it, GAW bought Twitter to censor anyone trying to make negative statements on there about them.  

Maybe it was an equity deal involving first round hashcoins. Two mysteries solved in one shot 

[DARKANGEL6415]

Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other venders, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

I use Genesis-Mining, Hashie.co, and LTCGear and have always gotten my payouts with Genesis-Mining and Hashie.co every day right on time and have always been able to withdraw with no problem.  LTCGear has always payed out on Friday flawlessly. 

As of right now this seems to be only a GAW thing and I think it results of their gross incompetence at running the company.  The only other companies that I have read that had problems like this turned out to be scams.

Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

I'm not a legal expert so I can't really say, but any time a website or service that I use has changed their TOS they have notified me about it which GAW has never done. 

i was interested in Hashie.co i got the 10ghs they give made account verified it. I can log in and all but i sent support ticket to them 36 hours ago asking where are they mining and can we see live pool stats. I see they have 1 picture on website but lets be honest someone can buy a shitload of ebay or other sites GHS rental and then just take screen shot. I have not heard back from them and i also do not like how they dont let you ask question in chat till you buy 20 GHS minimal. So its really going to cost me almost $10 so i can be able to ask a question lol.

[NeonTranceBadger]

Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other venders, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

I use Genesis-Mining, Hashie.co, and LTCGear and have always gotten my payouts with Genesis-Mining and Hashie.co every day right on time and have always been able to withdraw with no problem.  LTCGear has always payed out on Friday flawlessly. 

As of right now this seems to be only a GAW thing and I think it results of their gross incompetence at running the company.  The only other companies that I have read that had problems like this turned out to be scams.

Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

I'm not a legal expert so I can't really say, but any time a website or service that I use has changed their TOS they have notified me about it which GAW has never done. 

i was interested in Hashie.co i got the 10ghs they give made account verified it. I can log in and all but i sent support ticket to them 36 hours ago asking where are they mining and can we see live pool stats. I see they have 1 picture on website but lets be honest someone can buy a shitload of ebay or other sites GHS rental and then just take screen shot. I have not heard back from them and i also do not like how they dont let you ask question in chat till you buy 20 GHS minimal. So its really going to cost me almost $10 so i can be able to ask a question lol.

They were mining at BTCGuild and have proof they were.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822446.msg9230458#msg9230458

[MOB]

Small potatoes.

I heard that GAW is in talks with Obama and Hashcoins will be backing USD. The dollar will soon feature Josh's smug face and inappropriate vests floating above the pyramid.

In GAW we trust.

[DARKANGEL6415]

Yeah, that must be it, GAW bought Twitter to censor anyone trying to make negative statements on there about them.  

Maybe it was an equity deal involving first round hashcoins. Two mysteries solved in one shot 

LOL good stuff guys

[kebabman]

Small potatoes.

I heard that GAW is in talks with Obama and Hashcoins will be backing USD. The dollar will soon feature Josh's smug face and inappropriate vests floating above the pyramid.

In GAW we trust.

Haha. Josh for president 2016!

[reeko400.1]

I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.

[DARKANGEL6415]

I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.

IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles 

[Flep182]

Ban from my one account was lifted btw. Have to check how long it took.

[kebabman]

I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.

IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles 

What do you think the power use is going to be for those 3 x 250MH miners? The Vaultbreaker was supposed to be 750MH @ 1000W, I'm guessing these not-Titans-honestly miners will be ~2000W each.

[DARKANGEL6415]

I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.

IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles 

What do you think the power use is going to be for those 3 x 250MH miners? The Vaultbreaker was supposed to be 750MH @ 1000W, I'm guessing these not-Titans-honestly miners will be ~2000W each.

i am thinking you are correct IF they even come out i say between 2000W - 2500 W

[spiceminer15]

15mh = 500watts, are they the same chips in the new ones?

that would be 25k watts hahah

[kebabman]

New ones, I think KnC Titan and those other guys I can't remember at the moment come in at 8W per ASIC and about 256 ASICs per 250MH miner = 2048W per 250MH. Ish. Have fun running three of those at home.  

[Anonymousg64]

Prime Controllers = Darkcoin masternodes


https://www.darkcoin.io/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/InstantTX.pdf

[spiceminer15]

New ones, I think KnC Titan and those other guys I can't remember at the moment come in at 8W per ASIC and about 256 ASICs per 250MH miner = 2048W per 250MH. Ish. Have fun running three of those at home.  

i have the power at my house but i doubt its worth it. scrypt profitability is horrible when you figure in the electricity.