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[Cocakiko]

Burst is still down. I can't mining any coin. When It recovery?

[enta2k]

Burst ist dead, but I´m a generous God, I´ll buy your Coins for 1 Satoshi each.

[sud]

Burst ist dead, but I´m a generous God, I´ll buy your Coins for 1 Satoshi each.

Nice offer, but I prefer selling for x350 more. GL tho!

[Grroin]

how do you sell or buy when nothing works?

Who are adam and focus? Where is the info about them from?

[enta2k]

Burst ist dead, but I´m a generous God, I´ll buy your Coins for 1 Satoshi each.

Nice offer, but I prefer selling for x350 more. GL tho!

Still more profitable than selling ether out of a Parity wallet.

[RandomBurstCoinName]

This post is not meant to be defamatory or incite any type of debate.  It is merely a reference to let others know what is going on.  After reading this over again I do seem to be making indirect accusation but they are only observations as best I can understand.  Some smoke no fire.

What is currently going on with Burstcoin?
     DDOS attacks is the short version.  Currently there are DDOS attacks effecting all but 2 or 3 pools.  Most useful online resources are down.  Local wallet/solo mining is still fully functional.  This is likely an attack on the coin itself to try and centralize it by folks with very little understanding of how cryptocurrency works.  The development team is taking care of it and all online resources will likely be available and fully functional in coming days.

Will Bittrex unlist Burstcoin?
     I cannot say for sure but at this point I believe it is unlikely.  A member of the development team worked with Bittrex before the DDOS attacks were expanded to make sure they had access to an accurate wallet *edit* explorer.

Why is all this happening?
     It is experiencing the same problems most alt coins experience.   In this case it appears as though the development team is under attack from a "faction" who figured out how to download open source software?  I really do not know what their end game is, I do not believe they do either.  All I know is it appears their goal is to drive away the development team by taking away their "profit".  They seem to have no sense that anybody could see past a few dollars to the long term.  The development team seems to have taken the bait and is now spending energy on them.  Not much but more than they should be.  As the "faction" downloaded each piece open source software and muddled through getting it running on their site they would DDOS that already existing service. Again I believe this is a play to centralize the coin.

Is Burstcoin dead/dying?
     Not in the least.  It does currently have cancer.  But not the oh noes chemo it type of cancer more like a benign tumor.  As no functionality of it has actually been diminished, only miners inconvenienced, it is unlikely to have any lasting effects.

What to do?
     Give it a couple of days.  The DDOS attacks were expanded 7/19 to the point where they actually caused inconvenience and the dev team are taking steps to protect from them.  I would avoid, at this time, investing any large sum in Burstcoin.  Until the dev team, the faction and tribalist miners get their shit together there is no telling how volatile it will become.

[unsoindovo]

This post is not meant to be defamatory or incite any type of debate.  It is merely a reference to let others know what is going on.  After reading this over again I do seem to be making indirect accusation but they are only observations as best I can understand.  Some smoke no fire.

What is currently going on with Burstcoin?
     DDOS attacks is the short version.  Currently there are DDOS attacks effecting all but 2 or 3 pools.  Most useful online resources are down.  Local wallet/solo mining is still fully functional.  This is likely an attack on the coin itself to try and centralize it by folks with very little understanding of how cryptocurrency works.  The development team is taking care of it and all online resources will likely be available and fully functional in coming days.

Will Bittrex unlist Burstcoin?
     I cannot say for sure but at this point I believe it is unlikely.  A member of the development team worked with Bittrex before the DDOS attacks were expanded to make sure they had access to an accurate wallet.

Why is all this happening?
     It is experiencing the same problems most alt coins experience.   In this case it appears as though the development team is under attack from a "faction" who figured out how to download open source software?  I really do not know what their end game is, I do not believe they do either.  All I know is it appears their goal is to drive away the development team by taking away their "profit".  They seem to have no sense that anybody could see past a few dollars to the long term.  The development team seems to have taken the bait and is now spending energy on them.  Not much but more than they should be.  As the "faction" downloaded each piece open source software and muddled through getting it running on their site they would DDOS that already existing service. Again I believe this is a play to centralize the coin.

Is Burstcoin dead/dying?
     Not in the least.  It does currently have cancer.  But not the oh noes chemo it type of cancer more like a benign tumor.  As no functionality of it has actually been diminished, only miners inconvenienced, it is unlikely to have any lasting effects.

What to do?
     Give it a couple of days.  The DDOS attacks were expanded 7/19 to the point where they actually caused inconvenience and the dev team are taking steps to protect from them.  I would avoid, at this time, investing any large sum in Burstcoin.  Until the dev team, the faction and tribalist miners get their shit together there is no telling how volatile it will become.

this is in part, why crowetic leave burst...
and the price go down

[RandomBurstCoinName]

this is in part, why crowetic leave burst...
and the price go down

Pretty sure Crowetic got taken out by the tribalism.  He originally went along with another group and ended up getting conned by the leadership into misappropriating funds all to the leaderships benefit.  When he went back to the dev team rather than being accepted as somebody who genuinely wanted to do the best he can, who also screwed up, he was treated as a "betrayer" the scum of the earth.  I do try to stay out of their in-fighting but that is what it seemed like.

[IncludeBeer]

this is in part, why crowetic leave burst...
and the price go down

Pretty sure Crowetic got taken out by the tribalism.  He originally went along with another group and ended up getting conned by the leadership into misappropriating funds all to the leaderships benefit.  When he went back to the dev team rather than being accepted as somebody who genuinely wanted to do the best he can, who also screwed up, he was treated as a "betrayer" the scum of the earth.  I do try to stay out of their in-fighting but that is what it seemed like.

If Crow hadn't screwed over his asset shareholders so hard, I'd be more willing to believe it as you put it (because it seems the way you desecribed, I agree). But, he fucked over all of em (us), so I'm much more tempted to think he was nefarious from the beginning.

PS: I appreciate your descriptions of the "tribalism" and "factions". Quite apt! 

how do you sell or buy when nothing works?

Who are adam and focus? Where is the info about them from?

Adam Guerbuez. He's the cancer that's attached itself to Burst. 

Scammer, spammer, neo-nazi, bankrupt megalomaniac. He's the admin over at BurstNation, the forum where everything is censored and he only lets people talk about his assets (only good things though). Seriously, they have forum rules, one of them being you can't say anything negative about the forum, even on other forums, else you get banned.

I highly suggest you and anyone else who reads this to stay away from anything he touches.

... focus is basically his 2nd in command (read: pet bitch).

[CryptoDude2727]

this is in part, why crowetic leave burst...
and the price go down

Pretty sure Crowetic got taken out by the tribalism.  He originally went along with another group and ended up getting conned by the leadership into misappropriating funds all to the leaderships benefit.  When he went back to the dev team rather than being accepted as somebody who genuinely wanted to do the best he can, who also screwed up, he was treated as a "betrayer" the scum of the earth.  I do try to stay out of their in-fighting but that is what it seemed like.

Crowetic is as poor a leader and decision maker that a project can have.  Who invited Adam in again?  Who then partnered with Adam despite community members warnings?  When things went south who dealt with it in a pathetic way screwing over his investors and fellow community members?  Pumping up his "assets" all while scheming to leave.  Oh wait, "if you're my friend you can come with me".  I'm not a Adam fan by any means, but guess who's leadership and decision making is the reason why burst is where it is today?   CROWETIC.

Anyone that supports or follows this guy to qora or bts or wherever he's trying to escape to should have their head examined. 

[seasonw]

Honestly, I don't know much about burst besides mining... I didn't know there is in-fight of burst team members. Thanks for above comments to reveal this info. So, can I conclude that this DDOS attack that aiming to destroy burstcoin is from somebody in burst team (or ex-burst team)?

[RandomBurstCoinName]

Honestly, I don't know much about burst besides mining... I didn't know there is in-fight of burst team members. Thanks for above comments to reveal this info. So, can I conclude that this DDOS attack that aiming to destroy burstcoin is from somebody in burst team (or ex-burst team)?

I do not think it is from burst-team.  They are the most heavily effected by it and the timing is just off.  I THINK it is coming from the "faction" to try to drive burst-team away but I have no proof of that only massive amounts of well timed smoke.  

As for crowetic I was not trying to start a debate on his intentions.  I personally believe them to be good, even though they were horribly carried out costing many much much more than me.  All of the animosity for him stems from 1 very stupid decision and he stuck around trying to make it right.  It wasn't until AFTER he blew up the leadership of the faction calling out the BS they were pulling and returned to burst-team to be repetitively kicked in the balls that he took the "fuck you guys I'm going home" approach.  Again I do believe he should have stood there and accepted every bit of frustration his share holders wanted to take out on him and then moved forward.  He could not/ would not do it.  It was not an evil master plan though, it was a mistake for which he found the consequences too high and peaced. He should not have done what he did, he should not have left, he should have stayed and made it right, he was not a conman though I do not believe.

[IncludeBeer]

Honestly, I don't know much about burst besides mining... I didn't know there is in-fight of burst team members. Thanks for above comments to reveal this info. So, can I conclude that this DDOS attack that aiming to destroy burstcoin is from somebody in burst team (or ex-burst team)?

I do not think it is from burst-team.  They are the most heavily effected by it and the timing is just off.  I THINK it is coming from the "faction" to try to drive burst-team away but I have no proof of that only massive amounts of well timed smoke.  

As for crowetic I was not trying to start a debate on his intentions.  I personally believe them to be good, even though they were horribly carried out costing many much much more than me.  All of the animosity for him stems from 1 very stupid decision and he stuck around trying to make it right.  It wasn't until AFTER he blew up the leadership of the faction calling out the BS they were pulling and returned to burst-team to be repetitively kicked in the balls that he took the "fuck you guys I'm going home" approach.  Again I do believe he should have stood there and accepted every bit of frustration his share holders wanted to take out on him and then moved forward.  He could not/ would not do it.  It was not an evil master plan though, it was a mistake for which he found the consequences too high and peaced. He should not have done what he did, he should not have left, he should have stayed and made it right, he was not a conman though I do not believe.

I don't think he meant "burst-team". He meant, "burst community".

[CryptoDude2727]

Honestly, I don't know much about burst besides mining... I didn't know there is in-fight of burst team members. Thanks for above comments to reveal this info. So, can I conclude that this DDOS attack that aiming to destroy burstcoin is from somebody in burst team (or ex-burst team)?

I do not think it is from burst-team.  They are the most heavily effected by it and the timing is just off.  I THINK it is coming from the "faction" to try to drive burst-team away but I have no proof of that only massive amounts of well timed smoke.  

As for crowetic I was not trying to start a debate on his intentions.  I personally believe them to be good, even though they were horribly carried out costing many much much more than me.  All of the animosity for him stems from 1 very stupid decision and he stuck around trying to make it right.  It wasn't until AFTER he blew up the leadership of the faction calling out the BS they were pulling and returned to burst-team to be repetitively kicked in the balls that he took the "fuck you guys I'm going home" approach.  Again I do believe he should have stood there and accepted every bit of frustration his share holders wanted to take out on him and then moved forward.  He could not/ would not do it.  It was not an evil master plan though, it was a mistake for which he found the consequences too high and peaced. He should not have done what he did, he should not have left, he should have stayed and made it right, he was not a conman though I do not believe.

I think most people that have followed burst and crowetic can separate the BN propaganda and the actual situation... at least in general terms.  For example... crowetic (and some others) tried to short the coin, keep the price down.  Who cares... their motivation regarding this may be right, may be wrong, may be misguided... but shorting happens every day.  They thought it would help their assets and the asset exchange stay healthy ...fine, may be right may be wrong.  What is an example of crowetic's pathetic decision making and leadership in this situation is HE TAPPED INTO INVESTOR MONEY TO TRY AND DO THIS.  Are you f'ing kidding me?!  And he plays it off as not a big deal...really?!  That should NEVER happen...EVER!

To me, inviting Adam G in... you can stop there and see someone lacking judgement and leadership.  I'm pretty sure Hellen Keller could size Adam G up and what he's about... yet crowetic couldn't.  And his poor decisions go well beyond that,  he's a complete joke. 

[RandomBurstCoinName]

To me, inviting Adam G in... you can stop there and see someone lacking judgement and leadership.  I'm pretty sure Hellen Keller could size Adam G up and what he's about... yet crowetic couldn't.  And his poor decisions go well beyond that,  he's a complete joke. 

I will be real honest I do not understand why crowetic tried to short the coin except to help nameless.   Crowetic, I do not think, was at risk.  Nameless had assets that were outside the umbrella of burstcoin so a sudden increase in price would have completely devastated him.   I was not heavily invested in Crowetics assets and didn't much care to know the ins and outs.  I also do not understand how his assets were hurt that bad.  Worst failed short I've seen cost ~50% and that was on a much more volatile coin.  Even if it had cost 50% if he had waited a few days he would have been able to return 90% of the coins he used.  Which may be why he did not think it was as big of a deal.  Its not like coins disappear.   I wanted to ask certain things like that while it was going down but everybody was too mad and did not want to get in the middle of it myself.  If you could explain to me why he was taking heat for losing all his investors money I would be grateful.

Quick update.  My personal resources have crashed and my wallet finally locked up so I have no idea whats going on at all with burstcoin.  Last I had seen shortly before I made my first post here was their pool and 1 other still mining away. Winning every other block in about 20s.

[seasonw]

Honestly, I don't know much about burst besides mining... I didn't know there is in-fight of burst team members. Thanks for above comments to reveal this info. So, can I conclude that this DDOS attack that aiming to destroy burstcoin is from somebody in burst team (or ex-burst team)?

I do not think it is from burst-team.  They are the most heavily effected by it and the timing is just off.  I THINK it is coming from the "faction" to try to drive burst-team away but I have no proof of that only massive amounts of well timed smoke.  

As for crowetic I was not trying to start a debate on his intentions.  I personally believe them to be good, even though they were horribly carried out costing many much much more than me.  All of the animosity for him stems from 1 very stupid decision and he stuck around trying to make it right.  It wasn't until AFTER he blew up the leadership of the faction calling out the BS they were pulling and returned to burst-team to be repetitively kicked in the balls that he took the "fuck you guys I'm going home" approach.  Again I do believe he should have stood there and accepted every bit of frustration his share holders wanted to take out on him and then moved forward.  He could not/ would not do it.  It was not an evil master plan though, it was a mistake for which he found the consequences too high and peaced. He should not have done what he did, he should not have left, he should have stayed and made it right, he was not a conman though I do not believe.

I don't think he meant "burst-team". He meant, "burst community".

Thanks for clarifying, I meant "burst community". Sorry for misunderstanding wording used...

[cryptoyug]

Seems interesting coin. However market history isn't stable that still going to mine on my rig. hope for the best.
Thanks Team

[duncan_idaho]

Hi. I see a lot of new people over here I am really sad about fact that, nobody write posts about problems here in orginal burst thread. If you meet in persxonal chats like slack or other shit then you dont inform normal users like me and others what is going on with coin.

I am with burst from genesis block i mined it until now. I sold 80% of my bursts on 700-900 sat and yesterday sold rest on 350 sat.
Sorry to say that, becouse it was a nice technology but after first dev was gone this project is failed one. Blockchain unstability, no running nodes, minig-pool ddosed, wallet crashed, bittrex will delist this coin soon. When i saw what is going on i send all my coins on bittrex and use it as my local wallet and it was good move becouse i can sell it without problems. Maybe if price will go down to 50-100 sat i will buy back some, but now i am out.
I wish you luck.

[RandomBurstCoinName]

Thanks for clarifying, I meant "burst community". Sorry for misunderstanding wording used...

I do not know.  I suspect.  The 4 pools that stayed out until shortly before I made that post were all controlled by members of the same group.  They claim its forked because of msg spamming but they all continue to mine.  Burstpool.net was the first to go down out of those 4, about 15 min before i first posted, and the only one not controlled by a core member of that group.  I believe they leave their pools mining on a dead fork rather than just wait for the devs to fix it is so they can yell about how they had money stolen from them when they are not awarded the blocks they mined that contained only their own transactions.

The next one that went down was burstcoin.space which was controlled by a core member but was not an adam/focus pool.  Most pools went down some were taken offline.  There is no reason to incestuously mine a fork.  I wasn't worried about it as long as local wallets were working but since mine went down I am wondering how many nodes are left.


Anyway I am all in to ride this out.  I cannot cash out now with my local wallet down so I am exactly where I did not want to be - crossing my fingers lexicon/dawallet/haitch/the rest I don't know can fix this.  

Edit - Missed this... Apparently there is a reason to incestuously mine a fork lol.  Maybe Adam will be a savior! lol https://steemit.com/news/@lexicon/burstcoin-network-large-scale-attack

I am back online on my local wallet after deleting my db and re-downloading it appears I am on the same fork as that group

[wilkas]

Where can I ask for few burstcoins to start mining? BURST-JRZ6-5LCC-6GCB-DGXHH . Will return 5x upon first income.