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August 19, 2014, 04:52:32 PM
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If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

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August 19, 2014, 04:59:09 PM
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@burstcoin: you are AWESOME!
@Wulfcastle: Thx for all that work, its so GOOD looking :-)

bouth of you should publish a burst address, so that we can donate!


This is my Burst address if anyone wants to donate for my work on the new Wallet UI, the new logo and the new OP. I've provided all my work free of charge and I don't ask for bounties, because improving BURST is a benefit to me as I see great potential for it. Donations are still welcome though Smiley - BURST-CKUG-2DLF-KNL6-EETXA

5k from me incomming ... thx again!

8/19/2014 09:33:58      5'000 + 5   BURST-CKUG-2DLF-KNL6-EETXA

5k from me as well. Smiley

I think it's really awesome that community members are working on this project by their own initiative. 5K from me!

6162068661180258798   8/20/2014 00:56:06   Ordinary payment      5'000   5   BURST-CKUG-2DLF-KNL6-EETXA

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August 19, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
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> Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Just ignore it, its just a few MB's that are wasted.

> And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

They do overlap! You need to use seperate ranges.


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If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

You are correct. Anyway I dont get the point why everyone is trying to pack their ranges as close together as possible. You have 2^64 to choose from, and block finding changes are equal for all of them.
So why not start the next one at 10M? 1G? 10G?
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August 19, 2014, 05:01:37 PM
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If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)
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August 19, 2014, 05:11:15 PM
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If someone wants to buy this precious coin, he can acquire
106k BURST at 0.00355 BTC/1000BURST at decentralized Asset Exchange right now,
and he also can place some buy orders at his price: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/market/251006016744564741


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Buy them while they're cheap!

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August 19, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
 #2286

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@burstcoin: you are AWESOME!
@Wulfcastle: Thx for all that work, its so GOOD looking :-)

bouth of you should publish a burst address, so that we can donate!


This is my Burst address if anyone wants to donate for my work on the new Wallet UI, the new logo and the new OP. I've provided all my work free of charge and I don't ask for bounties, because improving BURST is a benefit to me as I see great potential for it. Donations are still welcome though Smiley - BURST-CKUG-2DLF-KNL6-EETXA

5k from me incomming ... thx again!

8/19/2014 09:33:58      5'000 + 5   BURST-CKUG-2DLF-KNL6-EETXA

5k from me as well. Smiley

I think it's really awesome that community members are working on this project by their own initiative. 5K from me!

6162068661180258798   8/20/2014 00:56:06   Ordinary payment      5'000   5   BURST-CKUG-2DLF-KNL6-EETXA



Thanks for the donations everyone Smiley. I'll still be here designing for Burst.

What I'd really like to do next is create a front-end for POCMiner, kind of like GUIMiner, though coding isn't my expertise. If anyone can code a front end for POCMiner I can design the UI. PM me if anyone is interested in this task and is capable of it's requirements.
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August 19, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
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Hard to find block today!! 1.5 Tb multiple plots find nothing!

Hope catch some today..

Selling 50k for 0.17BTC
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August 19, 2014, 05:28:28 PM
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Also is there anyone who is capable of forking the NXT one-click-install client : http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet/ and porting it to Burst? I'll be handing out bounties from my stash to those who can get it working with Burst. I don't think it would be too hard, the process would be the same as the NXT client, and the one-click-install client is also open source (you can view the source code via xcode).
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August 19, 2014, 05:30:11 PM
 #2289

If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope you're wrong, because if so, then that means I have a few overlapping...

But to me it doesn't make sense for a completely separate computer, to be able to have overlapping nonces with a completely different computer...

Is there some way to tell if one computer is overlapping another?? I guess I could just watch the miner, and if the numbers are the same and it's doing the same stuff, then I guess that would be a way to find out.



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August 19, 2014, 05:32:26 PM
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If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope you're wrong, because if so, then that means I have a few overlapping...

But to me it doesn't make sense for a completely separate computer, to be able to have overlapping nonces with a completely different computer...

Is there some way to tell if one computer is overlapping another?? I guess I could just watch the miner, and if the numbers are the same and it's doing the same stuff, then I guess that would be a way to find out.

If both computers use the same key they will also produce the same results (deadline) for blocks. You are then competing with yourself - and lowering your chances.
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August 19, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
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Also is there anyone who is capable of forking the NXT one-click-install client : http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet/ and porting it to Burst? I'll be handing out bounties from my stash to those who can get it working with Burst. I don't think it would be too hard, the process would be the same as the NXT client, and the one-click-install client is also open source (you can view the source code via xcode).

Just bumping this to the new page.
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August 19, 2014, 05:36:32 PM
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If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope you're wrong, because if so, then that means I have a few overlapping...

But to me it doesn't make sense for a completely separate computer, to be able to have overlapping nonces with a completely different computer...

Is there some way to tell if one computer is overlapping another?? I guess I could just watch the miner, and if the numbers are the same and it's doing the same stuff, then I guess that would be a way to find out.

yup, I have a TB wasted. Great. Fixing now.



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August 19, 2014, 05:37:02 PM
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If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope you're wrong, because if so, then that means I have a few overlapping...

But to me it doesn't make sense for a completely separate computer, to be able to have overlapping nonces with a completely different computer...

Is there some way to tell if one computer is overlapping another?? I guess I could just watch the miner, and if the numbers are the same and it's doing the same stuff, then I guess that would be a way to find out.

If both computers use the same key they will also produce the same results (deadline) for blocks. You are then competing with yourself - and lowering your chances.


So I was right! I'm sorry, I've wasted about 50% of my space too..!
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August 19, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
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> Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Just ignore it, its just a few MB's that are wasted.

> And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

They do overlap! You need to use seperate ranges.


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If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

You are correct. Anyway I dont get the point why everyone is trying to pack their ranges as close together as possible. You have 2^64 to choose from, and block finding changes are equal for all of them.
So why not start the next one at 10M? 1G? 10G?
That means,I can use plot of 0 to 6000000 nounces on one pc,and plot of 6000000 to 12000000 nounces on another with seam password,but if I make two plots with 0 to 6000000 nounces and seam password on separate PC's it is only waste of space and time?

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August 19, 2014, 05:41:04 PM
 #2295

If I've 2 separate HDD, can I plot in each one starting from position 0? Or are they overlapping?
I mean, 2 separate HDD, can overlap?
I'm using a miner for each HDD
yes, they are overlapped. use different nounces or different wallets.I tested it that before and lost one day in generating plots...


Good, it's a week that I'm wasting about 50% of my space..  Sad

And what if:

Number of nonces (1600000) is not a multiple of stagger size (8191)?

Because I'm mining and finding block, so does it affect mining?
And if I use seam nounces on two separate PC's,they will not overlapping?Or this will affect mining?

If you are working on two different wallet, with two password there is no problem, they will not overlap, but if you are using the same password on each PC for generate the plot, they will overlap!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

I hope you're wrong, because if so, then that means I have a few overlapping...

But to me it doesn't make sense for a completely separate computer, to be able to have overlapping nonces with a completely different computer...

Is there some way to tell if one computer is overlapping another?? I guess I could just watch the miner, and if the numbers are the same and it's doing the same stuff, then I guess that would be a way to find out.

If both computers use the same key they will also produce the same results (deadline) for blocks. You are then competing with yourself - and lowering your chances.


So I was right! I'm sorry, I've wasted about 50% of my space too..!

Yea man, that sucks, over a TB has been conflicting with itself because I didn't think about different computers overlapping eachother. DANG!



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August 19, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
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That means,I can use plot of 0 to 6000000 nounces on one pc,and plot of 6000000 to 12000000 nounces on another with seam password,but if I make two plots with 0 to 6000000 nounces and seam password on separate PC's it is only waste of space and time?

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That means,I can use plot of 0 to 6000000 nounces on one pc,and plot of 6000000 to 12000000 nounces on another with seam password,but if I make two plots with 0 to 6000000 nounces and seam password on separate PC's it is only waste of space and time?

Correct  Grin
FCK!I just lost two days of generating plots if you are right...

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August 19, 2014, 06:23:53 PM
 #2298

That means,I can use plot of 0 to 6000000 nounces on one pc,and plot of 6000000 to 12000000 nounces on another with seam password,but if I make two plots with 0 to 6000000 nounces and seam password on separate PC's it is only waste of space and time?

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FCK!I just lost two days of generating plots if you are right...

A lot of us did. Just as a rule make sure that NONE of your plots EVER overlap. done and done.



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August 19, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
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Do i get a read error if they are overlapping ? while mining ?


No, that error has nothing to do with overlap.



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August 19, 2014, 06:40:16 PM
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Do i get a read error if they are overlapping ? while mining ?


No, it's because the miner reads an incomplete file while you are still generating, but it won't affect mining! For every new block, the miner will read the entire plot, so you'll see that error until you've finished the generation!
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