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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170603 times)
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November 01, 2014, 10:43:54 AM
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looks for me like they have a failover but not updated IP yet

Yes, failover ip, and it has updated, but some people don't use blago's miner, which is best for that, cause it resolves ip all the time
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November 01, 2014, 10:59:18 AM
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looks for me like they have a failover but not updated IP yet

Yes, failover ip, and it has updated, but some people don't use blago's miner, which is best for that, cause it resolves ip all the time

Main server back up

61 miners again Smiley
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November 01, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
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Prompt please sit better in a solo 1 30 TB purse or the purse split into 5 to 6 TB?
Пoдcкaжитe пoжaлyйcтa в coлo лyчшe cидeть c 1 кoшeлькa 30 тб, или paзбить нa 5 кoшeлькa пo 6 тб?
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November 01, 2014, 11:31:26 AM
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looks for me like they have a failover but not updated IP yet

Yes, failover ip, and it has updated, but some people don't use blago's miner, which is best for that, cause it resolves ip all the time
Unfortunately not for Linux Sad
I tried a bit to modify the source of dcct-miner and add a hostname update everytime it gets "Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry.."

Code:
Using burst.ga port 8124

Could not get mining info from Node. Will retry..

Updating IP
burst.ga resolves to 86.104.24.22

If anyone wants to use it aswell, it's hardcoded so use at own risk Wink

File: mine.c
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Code:
void update() {
        // Try until we get a result.
        while(pollNode() == 0) {
                printf("\nCould not get mining info from Node. Will retry..             \n");
Add after:
Code:
 hostname_to_ip("burst.ga",nodeip);
                 printf("\nUpdating IP");
                 printf("\r\nburst.ga resolves to %s\n",nodeip);
Should do the trick
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November 01, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
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Prompt please sit better in a solo 1 30 TB purse or the purse split into 5 to 6 TB?
Пoдcкaжитe пoжaлyйcтa в coлo лyчшe cидeть c 1 кoшeлькa 30 тб, или paзбить нa 5 кoшeлькa пo 6 тб?

I wouldn't do raid....if one drive fails all ur plots r gone. Use plots for each drive
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November 01, 2014, 12:06:58 PM
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I wouldn't do raid....if one drive fails all ur plots r gone. Use plots for each drive
Prompt please sit better in a solo 30 TB 1 purse or the purse split into 5 to 6 TB?
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November 01, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
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Prompt please sit better in a solo 1 30 TB purse or the purse split into 5 to 6 TB?
Пoдcкaжитe пoжaлyйcтa в coлo лyчшe cидeть c 1 кoшeлькa 30 тб, или paзбить нa 5 кoшeлькa пo 6 тб?

I wouldn't do raid....if one drive fails all ur plots r gone. Use plots for each drive

So, what you really mean is "I wouldn't do RAID 0/JBOD".
A Synology's RAID5, for example, doesn't even have downtime when a disk fails. (just slowness after the bad disk is replaced and the volume rebuilds)

Why the frell so many retards spell "ect" as an abbreviation of "Et Cetera"? "ETC", DAMMIT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

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November 01, 2014, 02:29:09 PM
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pool Update

-remove eu sg node url
-change url to cryptomining.farm port 8124 or port 80 (please check dns 192.155.252.205)
-increase bonus to 1000000burst , when have 500miner+ on pool
-asset ( http://asset.cryptomining.farm/ ) will payout on 3/11/2014
-20% of pool profit will donate to orphanage in Thailand (on Thai Children's day 10/Jan/2015)
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November 01, 2014, 03:41:39 PM
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pool Update

-remove eu sg node url
-change url to cryptomining.farm port 8124 or port 80 (please check dns 192.155.252.205)
-increase bonus to 1000000burst , when have 500miner+ on pool
-asset ( http://asset.cryptomining.farm/ ) will payout on 3/11/2014
-20% of pool profit will donate to orphanage in Thailand (on Thai Children's day 10/Jan/2015)


hi koko..
can you explain how to work "bonus time"??

thank you

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November 01, 2014, 03:52:01 PM
Last edit: November 03, 2014, 04:31:35 PM by Nevril
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Just a quick reminder of the

Burst Long Term Price Support project
(BLTPS)

We'll be in Phase 1 'till 08/nov/2014.
Feel free to ask any question and by the start of the next week I will publish a FAQ to gather them in one place.
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November 01, 2014, 04:29:38 PM
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pool Update

-remove eu sg node url
-change url to cryptomining.farm port 8124 or port 80 (please check dns 192.155.252.205)
-increase bonus to 1000000burst , when have 500miner+ on pool
-asset ( http://asset.cryptomining.farm/ ) will payout on 3/11/2014
-20% of pool profit will donate to orphanage in Thailand (on Thai Children's day 10/Jan/2015)


hi koko..
can you explain how to work "bonus time"??

thank you
same day 22/10/2014
1000000burst will add to pool balance and payout to miner in 1 day
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November 01, 2014, 06:23:22 PM
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there is something wrong with payments @http://pool2.burstcoin.io/

both their schedule and amounts have gone drastically down  Embarrassed
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November 01, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
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there is something wrong with payments @http://pool2.burstcoin.io/

both their schedule and amounts have gone drastically down  Embarrassed

I guess few blocks have been found recently. From the payout address:

Quote
The account named burstpool2 has a balance of 165.5712568 BURST.

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November 01, 2014, 08:32:04 PM
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there is something wrong with payments @http://pool2.burstcoin.io/

both their schedule and amounts have gone drastically down  Embarrassed

No got my payments in last 24h. They only found a few more blocks in last time.
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November 02, 2014, 01:37:18 AM
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Prompt please sit better in a solo 1 30 TB purse or the purse split into 5 to 6 TB?
Пoдcкaжитe пoжaлyйcтa в coлo лyчшe cидeть c 1 кoшeлькa 30 тб, или paзбить нa 5 кoшeлькa пo 6 тб?

I wouldn't do raid....if one drive fails all ur plots r gone. Use plots for each drive

So, what you really mean is "I wouldn't do RAID 0/JBOD".
A Synology's RAID5, for example, doesn't even have downtime when a disk fails. (just slowness after the bad disk is replaced and the volume rebuilds)

But is RAID needed at all? RAID5 results in some capacity loss and plot files from broken HDD can be easily replotted without slowing down other disks.
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November 02, 2014, 02:19:30 AM
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Plot Optimizer v1.5 - j6jq fork

I have made some bug fixes since version 1.1 and added a delay feature if your available memory fluctuates with mining.  Read more at the Burst forum located at: https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/plot-optimizer-v1-5-j6jq.268.

Download Link (includes source code):
http://bitshare.com/?f=otatujkx

ran optimizer on file:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_940000000_7626752_8192 (size 1,952,448,512 KB)
output file:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_940000000_7626752_7626752 (size 1,949,228,032 KB) <-- incorrect size since 7626752*256000KB != 1949228032 KB

changing the file name manually to match the size: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_940000000_7614172_7614172 since 1949228032000/256000= 7614172

However, mining this file produces strange output on Blago's miner:

BURST miner, v1.141020
Programming: dcct (Linux) & Blago (Windows)
CPU support:  AES  SSE4  AVX  AVX2
Node: localhost (ip: 127.0.0.1)
Node: localhost (ip: 127.0.0.1)
Using plots:
Y:\plots\       files: 1         size: 1858 Gb
TOTAL: 1858 Gb

--- 21:14:39 ---    New block 29540, basetarget 2998332    ------------
*** Chance to find a block: 0.02970%
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 790396957
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 392940853
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 392940853       4547d 22h 14m 13s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 165320872
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 143340366
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 143340366       1659d 0h 46m 6s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 27461602
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 27461602        317d 20h 13m 22s
21:14:39 Confirmed DL: 5446372073854    63036713d 19h 37m 34s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  165320872 > 27461602  discarded
21:14:39 Confirmed DL: 6091147647021    70499394d 1h 30m 21s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  790396957 > 27461602  discarded
21:14:39 Confirmed DL: 6134291670940    70998746d 4h 35m 40s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 2275525
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 2275525 26d 8h 5m 25s
21:14:40 Confirmed DL: 5975898902375    69165496d 13h 19m 35s
21:14:40 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 1561449
21:14:40 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 1561449 18d 1h 44m 9s
21:14:40 Confirmed DL: 4101564822843    47471815d 1h 54m 3s
21:14:42 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 915567
21:14:42 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 915567  10d 14h 19m 27s
21:14:42 Confirmed DL: 5635954431523    65230954d 1h 38m 43s
21:14:48 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 59908
21:14:48 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 59908   0d 16h 38m 28s
21:14:48 Confirmed DL: 3470582522731    40168779d 4h 45m 31s
21:14:53 Thread "Y:\plots\" done! [~14 sec] (1 files)
[100%] 1858 GB. deadline 3470582522731s  sdl:7/0(0) cdl:7(0) ss:8(0) rs:8(0)


notice that the miner found "59908   0d 16h 38m 28s" as the best deadline, however, confirmed dealine is 3470582522731s.

Something isn't right with the re-plotted file even though it reads it very fast (14 seconds).
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November 02, 2014, 06:41:20 AM
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Someone want to check my calculations?

I'm calculating that assuming Bitcoin gets 280,000,000 GH/s, then assuming it uses the most energy and cost efficient miner I could find, then it costs $2 per GH and uses 0.5W/GH.

This means that the cost to buy the equipment to power the network is $560,000,000.
Also, the Bitcoin network uses 0.5 W per GH.  In other words 280,000,000 * 0.5 = 140,000,000 W


Now I went with the most energy efficient drive after quickly looking around, I found this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4tb-3tb-hdd,3183-15.html

The HITACHI Deskstar 5K4000:  http://www.amazon.com/HITACHI-0F14697-Deskstar-5K4000-INTERNAL/dp/B00B6TMG7O

This costs you $130 for 4TB.  So $560,000,000 will buy you ~4,300,000 4TB drives.

4,300,000 drives at 6W per drive gets you 25,800,000 W

Or in other words, ~4 times more energy efficient than Bitcoin..  which is nice but considering how much cheaper it is to forge for Nxt than mine for Bitcoin.. maybe not as much potential as I initially was thinking.  Especially if new Bitcoin mining equipment truly runs at 0.19 W instead of 0.5 W as used for the above calculation.. at which it's maybe half as energy efficient as Bitcoin.

See here: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/08/15/german-startup-says-its-new-chip-halves-bitcoin-mining-energy/

So this would use half as much energy as a similarly sized Bitcoin network.

Here is my much longer analysis of the Nxt network: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J8uhdshu9epGRrQHBaloGc4itdvuAHZDAUtNDjOhz-8/edit?usp=sharing

It's still a cool idea and hard drives are more reusable though..  idk.  I'll probably still buy a little but it's not as exciting as I was initially thinking unless he can figure out a way to use that data to store something instead of simply mine with it.


Btw, FakeAccount, you may want to read this article on RAM optimizers:
http://www.howtogeek.com/171424/why-memory-optimizers-and-ram-boosters-are-worse-than-useless/

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November 02, 2014, 07:27:31 AM
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you also have to calc the HD cap is also growing with consistent power usage. i thing development of more space is faster.
also you have to consider: hd future development does not depent of the price of the coin.
bitcoin development does. if the bitcoin price is falling and falling it is the question if the optimisation of the asics will be fast enougt to hold mining profitable.

here in germany bitcoin mining makes since month no sence because of the high power prices. and it will also make no sence, if the asics will be optimizied.

burst mining still is profitable.
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Last edit: November 02, 2014, 09:04:25 AM by Irontiga
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Someone want to check my calculations?

I'm calculating that assuming Bitcoin gets 280,000,000 GH/s, then assuming it uses the most energy and cost efficient miner I could find, then it costs $2 per GH and uses 0.5W/GH.

This means that the cost to buy the equipment to power the network is $560,000,000.
Also, the Bitcoin network uses 0.5 W per GH.  In other words 280,000,000 * 0.5 = 140,000,000 W


Now I went with the most energy efficient drive after quickly looking around, I found this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4tb-3tb-hdd,3183-15.html

The HITACHI Deskstar 5K4000:  http://www.amazon.com/HITACHI-0F14697-Deskstar-5K4000-INTERNAL/dp/B00B6TMG7O

This costs you $130 for 4TB.  So $560,000,000 will buy you ~4,300,000 4TB drives.

4,300,000 drives at 6W per drive gets you 25,800,000 W

Or in other words, ~4 times more energy efficient than Bitcoin..  which is nice but considering how much cheaper it is to forge for Nxt than mine for Bitcoin.. maybe not as much potential as I initially was thinking.  Especially if new Bitcoin mining equipment truly runs at 0.19 W instead of 0.5 W as used for the above calculation.. at which it's maybe half as energy efficient as Bitcoin.

See here: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/08/15/german-startup-says-its-new-chip-halves-bitcoin-mining-energy/

So this would use half as much energy as a similarly sized Bitcoin network.

Here is my much longer analysis of the Nxt network: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J8uhdshu9epGRrQHBaloGc4itdvuAHZDAUtNDjOhz-8/edit?usp=sharing

It's still a cool idea and hard drives are more reusable though..  idk.  I'll probably still buy a little but it's not as exciting as I was initially thinking unless he can figure out a way to use that data to store something instead of simply mine with it.


Btw, FakeAccount, you may want to read this article on RAM optimizers:
http://www.howtogeek.com/171424/why-memory-optimizers-and-ram-boosters-are-worse-than-useless/

The future of burst is not in HDD's, it'll be in robots and blurays, and that'll be replaced.

If you want to make the calculation, base it off gpu's, cause burst has no asic's yet, and when it does they won't be BAD. They will be new, better storage devices.

http://www.wired.com/2014/02/facebook-robots/

Also, please note that, if you want to mine effeciently, you could do only like 8 scoops/drive, which means that the drive is off for a majority of the time.

8 scoops would mean that drive only comes on once every 512 blocks.

NOTE: storage is expensive, so perhaps the robots will use waaayyy less power, but the home user with an on computer would always have the upper hand, as their computer is on in any case, and the hdd doesn't use extra power.
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November 02, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
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BURST miner, v1.141020
Programming: dcct (Linux) & Blago (Windows)
CPU support:  AES  SSE4  AVX  AVX2
Node: localhost (ip: 127.0.0.1)
Node: localhost (ip: 127.0.0.1)
Using plots:
Y:\plots\       files: 1         size: 1858 Gb
TOTAL: 1858 Gb

--- 21:14:39 ---    New block 29540, basetarget 2998332    ------------
*** Chance to find a block: 0.02970%
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 790396957
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 392940853
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 392940853       4547d 22h 14m 13s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 165320872
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 143340366
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 143340366       1659d 0h 46m 6s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 27461602
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 27461602        317d 20h 13m 22s
21:14:39 Confirmed DL: 5446372073854    63036713d 19h 37m 34s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  165320872 > 27461602  discarded
21:14:39 Confirmed DL: 6091147647021    70499394d 1h 30m 21s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  790396957 > 27461602  discarded
21:14:39 Confirmed DL: 6134291670940    70998746d 4h 35m 40s
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 2275525
21:14:39 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 2275525 26d 8h 5m 25s
21:14:40 Confirmed DL: 5975898902375    69165496d 13h 19m 35s
21:14:40 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 1561449
21:14:40 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 1561449 18d 1h 44m 9s
21:14:40 Confirmed DL: 4101564822843    47471815d 1h 54m 3s
21:14:42 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 915567
21:14:42 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 915567  10d 14h 19m 27s
21:14:42 Confirmed DL: 5635954431523    65230954d 1h 38m 43s
21:14:48 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]  found deadline 59908
21:14:48 [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] sent DL: 59908   0d 16h 38m 28s
21:14:48 Confirmed DL: 3470582522731    40168779d 4h 45m 31s
21:14:53 Thread "Y:\plots\" done! [~14 sec] (1 files)
[100%] 1858 GB. deadline 3470582522731s  sdl:7/0(0) cdl:7(0) ss:8(0) rs:8(0)
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Sent deadlines != confirmed deadlines. Daemon is not synced or plot-file is corrupted.

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