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Myth888
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August 21, 2017, 03:04:44 PM |
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sorry seems like pom is still on the right chain, just probably a buggy api
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Abejorro
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August 21, 2017, 03:15:11 PM |
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Hope you are right... already lose the mining on 3 different pools and all the coins send to Bittrex (never confirm) i will stay on Pom for the rest of today, if this pool doesn't work i´ll give up with this coin for the moment... |
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malafaya
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August 21, 2017, 03:15:27 PM |
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This could go on and on. I think you will need to change the PoW algorithm and that could take some time to be done right and properly tested. I would remove PoW for now and just run on PoS. I believe this will probably stop the forking. This is an unfair situation that may become more difficult as things progress imho.
If we can conclude this is caused by PoW and not by PoS I vote for this. Just for the record, I have the feeling it's PoS that causes the fork... I've seen more hybrid/PoS coins having this kind of unexplained problems than pure PoWs. And seeing the printscreen that someone recently posted [EDIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.msg21041520#msg21041520 ], with tens of stakes in a couple of minutes makes my belief stronger. That was my screen, from that time Joe and I decided to stop staking. So the last fork(s) was/were without MY staking. I was not saying it was *your* staking, but that it could be staking in general, due to its speed which may not allow fast enough propagation of blocks. |
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Apprentice
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August 21, 2017, 03:17:22 PM |
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may you please post how to solo mine (for newbies).
thanks,
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edward0181
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August 21, 2017, 03:20:01 PM |
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All I see now are absurt high stakes flying around on PoS looking at the Magi Explorer... just after block 1449484 7 blocks of 800XMG or more https://imghost.io/image/P5pHC |
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Myth888
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August 21, 2017, 03:22:47 PM |
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All I see now are absurt high stakes flying around on PoS looking at the Magi Explorer...
just after block 1449484 7 blocks of 800XMG or more
maybe we should turn off all staking for a day and see what happens |
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starmman
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August 21, 2017, 03:25:55 PM |
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All I see now are absurt high stakes flying around on PoS looking at the Magi Explorer...
just after block 1449484 7 blocks of 800XMG or more
maybe we should turn off all staking for a day and see what happens I'm not running a wallet right now - all seems a little crazy. If somebody has a huge wallet balance and didn't stake for a while such staking amounts could be possible - I get some pretty large rewards from some other coins... |
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The Frisian
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August 21, 2017, 03:27:54 PM |
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All I see now are absurt high stakes flying around on PoS looking at the Magi Explorer...
just after block 1449484 7 blocks of 800XMG or more
maybe we should turn off all staking for a day and see what happens Normally I am responsible for 25% of the staking. My staking is off for more than 1 day now. I see now only percentages under 10%. So I guess it has nothing to do with staking. What I certainly know, is that the problems started when new miners came in with hashes of more than 20 Mh/s. The block reward reduces then to all time low 0.1 XMG. So I guess if it has something do with PoS or PoW, I choose for PoS. But why can't it be something completely else? What are Joe's ideas about this? |
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Myth888
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August 21, 2017, 03:35:39 PM |
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All I see now are absurt high stakes flying around on PoS looking at the Magi Explorer...
just after block 1449484 7 blocks of 800XMG or more
maybe we should turn off all staking for a day and see what happens Normally I am responsible for 25% of the staking. My staking is off for more than 1 day now. I see now only percentages under 10%. So I guess it has nothing to do with staking. What I certainly know, is that the problems started when new miners came in with hashes of more than 20 Mh/s. The block reward reduces then to all time low 0.1 XMG. So I guess if it has something do with PoS or PoW, I choose for PoS. But why can't it be something completely else? What are Joe's ideas about this? my suggestion is to completely shutdown either pow or pos for a period of time and see if it still forks or not. So at least we can figure out what is causing it for sure. |
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Myth888
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August 21, 2017, 03:37:52 PM |
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btw i tried to payout from POM while exclusively connected to Joes node. It paid out fine so i guess its still on the right chain. Just buggy api that doest report well.
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Lightsplasher
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August 21, 2017, 03:42:50 PM |
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This could go on and on. I think you will need to change the PoW algorithm and that could take some time to be done right and properly tested. I would remove PoW for now and just run on PoS. I believe this will probably stop the forking. This is an unfair situation that may become more difficult as things progress imho.
If we can conclude this is caused by PoW and not by PoS I vote for this. Just for the record, I have the feeling it's PoS that causes the fork... I've seen more hybrid/PoS coins having this kind of unexplained problems than pure PoWs. And seeing the printscreen that someone recently posted [EDIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.msg21041520#msg21041520 ], with tens of stakes in a couple of minutes makes my belief stronger. I think any coin can fork but a PoS only coin has less issues from what I have seen. A solo miner on PoW can get on their own chain and mine along literally for weeks causing issues as long as they are not locked out by other nodes, which is hard to do without a proper hard fork with a forced wallet version update. On the other hand if a PoS only coin forks, eventually the miner has to reset the wallet because you run out of coins and therefor can't mine just by yourself, so long as there is a reasonable distribution of coins. Hybrid coins do have more issues with forks but it can be solved, hopefully Joe can find a solution, I'm very impressed with his efforts. To be brutally honest, there has been some indications of privately run GPU or other faster computer hardware being used, or perhaps large bot nets. As these large sources of hash rate come on to the coin they produce sudden huge increases in the hash rate and can cause problems. In any case I vote to change the PoW algorithm at this point to make things more even for single CPU mining if nothing else. Thus I feel PoW should be removed for now to give time for development of a better PoW algorithm. |
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Lightsplasher
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August 21, 2017, 03:47:20 PM |
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All I see now are absurt high stakes flying around on PoS looking at the Magi Explorer... just after block 1449484 7 blocks of 800XMG or more https://imghost.io/image/P5pHCThis is not a stake reward. It shows the number of coins that were used to stake the block. Before all the issues happened it was best to have over 500 coins in a block to stake in five days because of the high difficulty. |
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what-is-in-it
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August 21, 2017, 03:52:29 PM |
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strange - i see something on Pom pool that I havent seen anywhere else.. 275 pool workers and just 1 share.. Is that normal? https://ibb.co/hCbUNQ |
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Vitalik_Pedik
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August 21, 2017, 03:56:41 PM |
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if "blocks" : 1449525 is true chain
and "difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.44014829,
"proof-of-stake" : 0.00399164
},
that mean significant pow part mining on other chain)
we have new split?
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nsummy
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August 21, 2017, 03:57:31 PM |
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strange - i see something on Pom pool that I havent seen anywhere else.. 275 pool workers and just 1 share.. Is that normal? https://ibb.co/hCbUNQProbably normal when a block is found that quickly. |
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edward0181
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August 21, 2017, 03:59:30 PM |
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strange - i see something on Pom pool that I havent seen anywhere else.. 275 pool workers and just 1 share.. Is that normal? https://ibb.co/hCbUNQLooks like just my luck... Low difficulty at moment. Have had that before |
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what-is-in-it
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August 21, 2017, 04:00:24 PM |
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strange - i see something on Pom pool that I havent seen anywhere else.. 275 pool workers and just 1 share.. Is that normal? https://ibb.co/hCbUNQLooks like just my luck... Low difficulty at moment. Have had that before ha! its you! thats a nice block right there!  )) |
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eogr-s
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August 21, 2017, 04:02:12 PM |
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Welcome team.
I'm mining Magi for about 2 years at couple of regular PC's, I got about 150 khash. And I'd like to say that I like Magi. I like it for that I can take the average PC, just start mining and get some solvent amount of coins a little faster than thousand years without extreme gaming card and asic farm. I'm not appreciate switching magi to PoS-only coin, and some sense tells me that I'm not the only person who think so.
I think that if developers switch Magi to PoS-only mode, most part of community will leave it, including me. But I'd like to keep my friendship with Magi.
My vote is 2 hands up to keep PoW. I believe that solution can be found.
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phriek
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August 21, 2017, 04:03:40 PM |
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To be brutally honest, there has been some indications of privately run GPU or other faster computer hardware being used, or perhaps large bot nets. As these large sources of hash rate come on to the coin they produce sudden huge increases in the hash rate and can cause problems. In any case I vote to change the PoW algorithm at this point to make things more even for single CPU mining if nothing else. Thus I feel PoW should be removed for now to give time for development of a better PoW algorithm.
I think the same. It must be a large botnet or GPUminer which is single mining atm while pools are down, too. strange - i see something on Pom pool that I havent seen anywhere else.. 275 pool workers and just 1 share.. Is that normal? https://ibb.co/hCbUNQHappend to me some blocks before, too. This can happen if you find a block just a second after the last one. |
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xinwao
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August 21, 2017, 04:13:01 PM |
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Send few thousands of XMG to Bittrex about 10 hours ago. They are visible as pending deposits but still 0 out of 6 confirmations. What to do to not lose this coins?
Just wait. Your transaction will go to the block, and then you will receive a confirmation. Your coins do not go anywhere. How long should I wait? It's still 0/6 confirmations at Bittrex... |
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