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August 13, 2014, 07:49:54 PM |
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If god exist, he need put some text under this line --------------------------------------------------------- My answer to this is your own words. You can believe or not, but is for free. People like it.
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nsimmons
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August 13, 2014, 07:57:23 PM |
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Ask yourself, 3000 years ago, before modern monotheistic religions, people believed in different gods, why don't they believe in these anymore? Why are Zeus, or Mithra, or Osiris no longer worshiped. 3000 years from now, when people forget about jehovah, or christ, or allah, will they be worshiping Oprah, or Darth Vader?
What we think of as god, is only the current incarnation. When you study these ancient deities it is clear that Judaism and Christianity are literal copies derived from more ancient religions.
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247crypto
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August 13, 2014, 08:09:23 PM |
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My answer to this is your own words. You can believe or not, but is for free. People like it.
That is wrong, who is under influence of one or other religion often is constricted to pay fees under various pretexts.
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zeeshan98210
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August 13, 2014, 08:12:41 PM |
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My answer to this is your own words. You can believe or not, but is for free. People like it.
That is wrong, who is under influence of one or other religion often is constricted to pay fees under various pretexts. Wrong, I believe their is god, but I have no religion. I don't pay anything at all.
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247crypto
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August 13, 2014, 08:19:10 PM Last edit: August 13, 2014, 08:41:59 PM by 247crypto |
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My answer to this is your own words. You can believe or not, but is for free. People like it.
That is wrong, who is under influence of one or other religion often is constricted to pay fees under various pretexts. Wrong, I believe their is god, but I have no religion. I don't pay anything at all. That is about You, and other are constricted to donate properties and all the monies to the church after the death (with brain washing), and other things.
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zeeshan98210
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August 13, 2014, 08:23:53 PM |
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My answer to this is your own words. You can believe or not, but is for free. People like it.
That is wrong, who is under influence of one or other religion often is constricted to pay fees under various pretexts. Wrong, I believe their is god, but I have no religion. I don't pay anything at all. That is about You, and other are constricted to donate properties and all the monies to the church after death, and other things. By the way they are not giving this money to the god they are giving it to the church. Believing God is free. We did not even know their God is the real God.
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dank
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August 13, 2014, 08:34:25 PM |
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How did the big bang happen?
Nothing turned into something?
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August 13, 2014, 08:37:59 PM |
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OK guys you really made your points very well. Thank you. Still, I tend to agree with this blog author that either there is not much proofs for Darwin's theory as well. It seems that Darwin's theory is the most logic but still the are some ''holes'' and unproven facts in this theory, isn't it?
There are still many things to learn, of course. You can check here some of the current research topics in evolutionary biology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology#Current_research_topicsI strongly recommend reading misconceptions about evolution so you don't get easily fooled by creationists, check here: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_teacherfaq.php
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Skoupi
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August 13, 2014, 08:40:49 PM |
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Go troll some subreddits or something. You 'll get all the attention you need.
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jcoin200
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August 13, 2014, 08:41:12 PM |
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How did the big bang happen?
Nothing turned into something?
Thats what evolutionists want you to believe, that the ONE time in history that matter was created out of thin air, it just so happened to create 98% of all matter that exists in the universe today. If thats not a fairy tale I dont know what is!!!!!
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August 13, 2014, 08:50:53 PM |
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How did the big bang happen?
Nothing turned into something?
Thats what evolutionists want you to believe, that the ONE time in history that matter was created out of thin air, it just so happened to create 98% of all matter that exists in the universe today. If thats not a fairy tale I dont know what is!!!!! Actually, it is a fairy tale, usually used in religious writings... The theory of evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe, and even the origin of the universe models out there aren't trying to demonstrate "nothing turned into something."
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August 13, 2014, 09:05:09 PM |
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How did the big bang happen?
Nothing turned into something?
The Big Bang does not say that "something came from nothing". Please read up on it. You could also argue religion came from nothing....
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elliwilli
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August 13, 2014, 09:21:01 PM |
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So, i skimmed through the site... Holy shit, its bad. the amount of FUD and misinformation being spread is absurd!
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u9y42
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August 13, 2014, 09:22:07 PM |
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How did the big bang happen?
Nothing turned into something?
Thats what evolutionists want you to believe, that the ONE time in history that matter was created out of thin air, it just so happened to create 98% of all matter that exists in the universe today. If thats not a fairy tale I dont know what is!!!!! That's the god of the gaps fallacy again - pushing the idea of a god to whatever gaps exist in our understanding of the universe. There is no reason to believe it will become true this time, when it hasn't ever before.
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dank
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August 13, 2014, 09:25:03 PM |
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There is no debate. It was never science vs religion. It was always two perspectives of life. External, matter, ego. And internal, energy, soul. There is no either or, they are simply two different perception of existence.
The universe was never created. It always has and always will. Forever can be a hard concept to grasp but everything you see and do has happened infinite times already, and it is happening infinite times right now in infinite dimensions through space.
God exists with 100% certainty, for we live in an infinite universe. Space is infinite, always, even if our capability to measure infinity falls short (which can't be done with external technology). Furthermore, there are infinite frequencies, infinite numbers, infinite everything. We are not pixelated robots, we are spiritual beings that have exactly no limit to perception, other than what we set ourselves.
Even personified versions of god such as a huge guy with a big beard and the flying speghetti monster exist. The universe is infinite. Everything exists everywhere.
Ultimately, god is the universe. God is all. The universe is the totality of existence. They are one. In the highest form, god is a spaceless point of pure white conscious energy. Mix all colors of lights together and you get white. Open your internal antenna to all frequencies in the universe and you see the brightest, most beautiful, awing light ever. With infinite dimensions and light exists infinite peace, no feeling, material, drug or any object can compare with the supreme power of god in the highest form.
I know this because I have become that spaceless point of consciousness. I have seen the light and became the light.
Here is mathematical proof of god's existence:
Non existence does exist.
This sentence creates a negative statement, which is completely fallacious by nature. It is untrue. A false belief.
Non existence does not exist.
Remove the double negatives, as they cancel each other out, and you are left with this:
Existence does exist.
Which is applicable to anything.
Everything exists everywhere.
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nsimmons
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August 13, 2014, 09:31:05 PM |
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There is no debate. It was never science vs religion. It was always two perspectives of life. External, matter, ego. And internal, energy, soul. There is no either or, they are simply two different perception of existence.
The universe was never created. It always has and always will. Forever can be a hard concept to grasp but everything you see and do has happened infinite times already, and it is happening infinite times right now in infinite dimensions through space.
God exists with 100% certainty, for we live in an infinite universe. Space is infinite, always, even if our capability to measure infinity falls short (which can't be done with external technology). Furthermore, there are infinite frequencies, infinite numbers, infinite everything. We are not pixelated robots, we are spiritual beings that have exactly no limit to perception, other than what we set ourselves.
Even personified versions of god such as a huge guy with a big beard and the flying speghetti monster exist. The universe is infinite. Everything exists everywhere.
Ultimately, god is the universe. God is all. The universe is the totality of existence. They are one. In the highest form, god is a spaceless point of pure white conscious energy. Mix all colors of lights together and you get white. Open your internal antenna to all frequencies in the universe and you see the brightest, most beautiful, awing light ever. With infinite dimensions and light exists infinite peace, no feeling, material, drug or any object can compare with the supreme power of god in the highest form.
I know this because I have become that spaceless point of consciousness. I have seen the light and became the light.
Here is mathematical proof of god's existence:
Non existence does exist.
This sentence creates a negative statement, which is completely fallacious by nature. It is untrue. A false belief.
Non existence does not exist.
Remove the double negatives, as they cancel each other out, and you are left with this:
Existence does exist.
Which is applicable to anything.
Everything exists everywhere.
This is Spinoza's God, but not what most people think of when they discuss a supreme being. When you define God as the entirety of the universe, yes God exists. Most people do not define God that way. You make many presumptions, which are wrong, or we don't know yet. Quantum theory postulates there are not infinite energy ranges, they are discrete. The universe may not be infinite. You state we are spiritual. Cite evidence for a soul. Anecdotes don't count. The thread was about scientific evidence, not philosophical arguments.
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dank
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August 13, 2014, 09:49:03 PM |
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What is science but anecdotal evidence manifested from the exterior, material world?
How can a number, such as pi, exist without infinite dimensions? The number has no end, just as there are infinite decimals, infinite frequencies we can tune our consciousness to.
How can the universe not be infinite? It is impossible. Space does not just stop. It expands outwardly forever.
I remember contemplating this when I was very young, probably 8 or so. It perplexed me at the thought that the universe is a giant box, or bubble. Then I had the thought, if that is the case, what's on the outside of the box? Talk about a mindfuck, especially at that age.
I also contemplated death back then. It scared the living shit out of me to think that we just stop existing when we die. Do you know why it scared me? Because it's impossible. It makes absolutely no sense. Non existence does not exist.
I now see. Infinity is what is.
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August 13, 2014, 10:23:01 PM |
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Scientific proof? Nonsense. Just another INTP trying to rationalize a prior bias; that lack of Fi is a bitch sometimes.
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nsimmons
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August 13, 2014, 10:27:59 PM Last edit: August 13, 2014, 10:38:45 PM by nsimmons |
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What is science but anecdotal evidence manifested from the exterior, material world?
How can a number, such as pi, exist without infinite dimensions? The number has no end, just as there are infinite decimals, infinite frequencies we can tune our consciousness to.
How can the universe not be infinite? It is impossible. Space does not just stop. It expands outwardly forever.
I remember contemplating this when I was very young, probably 8 or so. It perplexed me at the thought that the universe is a giant box, or bubble. Then I had the thought, if that is the case, what's on the outside of the box? Talk about a mindfuck, especially at that age.
I also contemplated death back then. It scared the living shit out of me to think that we just stop existing when we die. Do you know why it scared me? Because it's impossible. It makes absolutely no sense. Non existence does not exist.
I now see. Infinity is what is.
This is non-nonsensical gibberish from too much pot. No one knows if space ends or not, we can not see past the microwave background radiation. Infinite divisibility does not imply infinite magnitude. Think of bitcoins. Dividing them to infinite decimals does not create infinite bitcoins. Mathematics are artificial constructs. Pi doesn't have existence without a consciousness to consider it. What is your age and education, so I may direct my responses more appropriately?
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August 13, 2014, 10:56:17 PM |
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...I also contemplated death back then. It scared the living shit out of me to think that we just stop existing when we die. Do you know why it scared me? Because it's impossible...
Death should scare you, that's fear is a gift given to you by evolution, helps you avoid getting killed. I think the experience of a "good" death will be just going to sleep and that's it, lights out. Of course peoples ego cant stand that (the end) and some prefer to think of a great after party, exclusive tickets only with a bouncer on the door. Truth of the matter is that part of you does have an afterlife, your DNA, and it too will be judged in its next life (provided you breed). Really we should consider ourselves as a subset (that manifests physically) of our DNA information. But a conscious "afterlife" might be possible by cloning the entire information state of a brain, real body then killed like star trek transporter. State could be stored or executed in sim environment or synthetic body. Will take alot of BTC and a good escrow.
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