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January 10, 2024, 07:29:53 AM
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religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory

scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them

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religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory

scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them

Sneaky scientist. Want a job with prestige? Become a scientist. Test and continually retest theories. But never prove them or disprove them. Simply come close enough that the theories remain viable theories. That way you always have a job as a theory tester. Easier than digging a ditch for a living.

The fact that so extremely many people believe in religion, shows that there is something spiritual to it. So, religion is not theory... at least not the right religion. But if science hadn't made a few physical inventions that worked, it would have never gotten the strength to start in the first place.

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January 10, 2024, 05:32:47 PM
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religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory

scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them

Sneaky scientist. Want a job with prestige? Become a scientist. Test and continually retest theories. But never prove them or disprove them. Simply come close enough that the theories remain viable theories. That way you always have a job as a theory tester. Easier than digging a ditch for a living.

The fact that so extremely many people believe in religion, shows that there is something spiritual to it. So, religion is not theory... at least not the right religion. But if science hadn't made a few physical inventions that worked, it would have never gotten the strength to start in the first place.

writing theories alone is not science..
its the peer review of testing and testing and each peer validates the theory

religion does not test and validate. they just echo chamber each other into 'confirmation bias'  belief

note the difference

just because millions of fans of harry potter all read the book and watched the movie does not make harry potter real

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your attempts to say science isnt real thus god is
is about as insane as saying
bananas arnt biological, thus harry potter is real

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January 11, 2024, 03:47:22 PM
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religion is the theory of something taken as gospel(beleived as real on trust)
science is the theory that is then tested and tested and each peer validates the theory

scientists test theories wrote by others
priests write theories but lack testing them

Sneaky scientist. Want a job with prestige? Become a scientist. Test and continually retest theories. But never prove them or disprove them. Simply come close enough that the theories remain viable theories. That way you always have a job as a theory tester. Easier than digging a ditch for a living.

The fact that so extremely many people believe in religion, shows that there is something spiritual to it. So, religion is not theory... at least not the right religion. But if science hadn't made a few physical inventions that worked, it would have never gotten the strength to start in the first place.

writing theories alone is not science..
its the peer review of testing and testing and each peer validates the theory

religion does not test and validate. they just echo chamber each other into 'confirmation bias'  belief

note the difference

just because millions of fans of harry potter all read the book and watched the movie does not make harry potter real

..
your attempts to say science isnt real thus god is
is about as insane as saying
bananas arnt biological, thus harry potter is real

Peer reviewing of a theory only validates the theory as a theory. We want facts. Not just the fact that the theory is a theory.

Religion tests and validates all the time. Whatever the religion, people have reasons for being part of that religion. However, often it's fear of the alternative. If they didn't test and validate it - at least as the best option for them in their life - they would leave it.

It DOES make Harry Potter real for each of them to some extent. ALL HP readers know that HP isn't real as written. Or at least they know he isn't real in their life as they live it. So, reading HP makes him real for them in the ways that they can believe and validate... in the humanness of HP and the people. If the author hadn't made HP believable, nobody would even bother with him and the books.

Your suggestion that I am attempting to say that science isn't real is as flawed as your faith in science. After all, science - the knowledge of the physics interactions in the universe - is way beyond what anybody can understand. We don't even know that programming all known scientific info into an AI computer will give us the answers.

If you want to see the big flaw in scientific consensus, look up The Highwire here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - and here - https://thehighwire.com/. Then watch the weekly videos for the last 3 years. What you will find is that there are loads of scientists who have good factual understanding and knowledge that the scientific consensus regarding Covid and the Covid vaxx is pure baloney.

What will you really be watching in these videos? The politicization of science. Science has become a religion just like any other religion. If it doesn't straighten up people will stop believing it.

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Wow, its been so long since i was last here... 22 court dates so far, and I'm not allowed to stand in the court dock.. seems I got a glow, or light... did you know that it is illegal in the uk for anyone who has been given a mystery of the light, to stand in court?

I've grown up a lot, seems I'm well, on fire, according to a kid who screamed it out pointing at me as I crossed the very busy princess st..

Hey badecker, long time no read...

hows your knowledge on the pistis sophia, ever read it?

Look at a map of scotland, preferably the National OS map of edinburgh.. make sure you see a large portion of the area surrounding this city. Notice it looks like a skull? Now count the 12 cranial nerves, the eyes, the neck, if your good, you'll follow the main routes and see a rather large man on a cross! His arms stretch south of the pentland hills, if you follow this right arm. Down the right side, you'll come to a place called Temple, this is where Jesus was stabbed in the ribs with the spear of destiny. his left hand side is the entire length of the A68 , go north to tranent, his left shoulder, left arm stretched to the east. now asides from a very co-incidental secret name of jesus christ, it is said in the pistis sophia, he who finds it is that man, and I'm not talking about rabbie burns scottish Osiris, the wiccan john barleycorn, but that I did indeed find the likeness spoken of in the pistis sophia... masons built it.. its over 3000 years in the making, and is actually the small man carried on the back of the egyptian god Meurt!

So much to share regarding this amazing discovery, but how to put it into words...
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A post I took my time over:

How I 'use' Magic Squares:
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When counting, I start at 1. Then 2. Then 3. No Magic Square can be created using either 0, 1, or 2, so in this txt, 0, 1, or 2 can be dropped, but only in reference to magic squares. This paragraph is to help understand that 0 can be 3, 1 can be 4, and 2 can be 5. If this seems stupid, try this: 3 x 4 x 5 = 60 seconds!

For example, I take the largest circle, and call it 'The Constellations' which = 2592 years, and devide it with 2869, seen in the last line of the magic square of the moon. 2592/2869 = 0.90345068, and if I write this equation out using magic squares in relation to their respective planets, the result is thus: Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Mercury. Note last two digits = Year of the +Earth Monkey. Notice Venus is 'missing'?

Now take the Pyramid of Gezeh. Its total base length is 3024 (units). Do same as above to find Saturn and Jupiter. Then do the same with the pyramids height, 480.05 (units) to find Jupiter, Mercury, and Mars.

Translate these planets to their respective magic squares, Using the following:

3 is Saturn:     3 x 15 = 45   (9)
4 is Jupiter:    4 x 34 = 136  (16)
5 is Mars:       5 x 65 = 325  (25)
6 is Sun:       6 x 111 = 666  (36)
7 is Venus:     7 x 175 = 1225 (49)
8 is Mercury:   8 x 260 = 2080 (64)
9 is Moon:      9 x 369 = 3321 (81)

So I take a single side of the pyramid of Gezeh (Gezeh = Egyptian spelling of Jesus) and at first I see a length of 756 feet, and say wow, that's Venus (175), Mars (65), and the Sun (111), in the measurements order. 175 + 65 + 111 = 2216. So I then check the height of pyramid, 480 give or take half a foot, say Jupiter (136) + Mercury (2080) and find again, 2216. Does Revelation 22:16 Ring a bell? Notice we can only 'use' the magic square of the Sun out of 2216, 6, it's number being either 111 or 666? The numbers in brackets in the chart above, are exactly how many numbers create this magic square, 36 representing a circle of 360, but of course, in hebrew we drop the zero, leaving 36, being Saturn and the Sun, Revealing Horus, shining on Saturn, the 'Bull in Amentet', or the 'Bull of Bakha' and how Thoth is also Chronos, because Ra is the sun-LIGHT on the moon, its reflection on Saturn IS Chronos, not the planet, so Isis could not kill Ra ever, or she would be in the dark...

Take the number 0.90345068 above, relate planets to the smaller digits being 369 + 260 + 111 + 65 + 34 + 15 = 854 = Mercury, Mars, Jupiter.

Using same number above: 45 + 136 + 325 + 666 + 2080 + 3321 = 6573 = Sun, Mars, Mercury, Saturn.

Notice anything missing in the last paragraph? Venus. Lacking a goddess's voice?

In Revelation, the son of God promises to give the morning star to him that overcomes.

“As I also have received of my father; I will give him the morning star”. (Rev. II. 28).

The morning star was equally identified with Horus:

“I know the powers of the east: Horus of the mount of glory, the calf in presence of the god, and the star of dawn”.

The powers represented are Atum-Ra, the father, with Horus (or Jesus) the son, as a calf, the later lamb. This is Horus of the morning star. The powers are Atum, the father, Horus (as Sebek), the son, and Hathor as the bride. The morning star was given by Horus to his followers who were reborn in Sothis, which of course is Sirius, located in the constelation Canis Major, the dog star, proving the Sphinx should be a dog, with the pointed nose of the baboon monkey. Was it Heroditus, who once described the Sphinx as having the teeth of a 'sabre tooth tiger'?

Another similar txt:

The rebirth of Pepi was in or as the morning star: “his guide the morning star leads him to paradise, where he seats himself upon his throne”.  (Arthurs Seat?) <- now proven.

When Pepi goes forth into heaven he is led by Septet, the female Sothis, and his guide is the morning star. She is the bride whom he calls his sister. He seats himself upon his throne of Ba-(soul)-Metal.

A new 'Layer' of 'Revelation' I have discovered, prove translators either deliberatly hid what you are about to read, or got it 100% WRONG!

In the egyptian txts, at some point in the past, according to translators, a great 'Calamity' took place, regarding Isis.

I propose it is happening as I write this.

There is a heiroglyph that show's what 'appears' to be two 'lightbulbs' and in between them is a Djed pillar with two eyes, being 'raised' and is seen in the same 'angle' as many depictions of Jesus carrying the 'Cross of Galgotha'. Some argue this is some 'serpent' power, used by the egyptians, and they even try to prove it in many 'alien' programs on tv. I've never been in a lodge, so cant really say, but this could also represent the 'Candidate' being 'Raised' during initiation. Translators state at the point before the 'raising' of the Djed, that the god Set says: "Let's set up the Senti". Hold this thought.

I propose the 'Senti' being whomever those 'eyes' belong to, contained 'IN' the Dj'd (note my change of Djed to Dj'd) pillar being 'raised' is alive today. Writing this. No?

My theory consists of several 'points' I must show, and they cant all be shown in a single paragraph, so I'll start with the easiest: Ra's symbol is a cat.

Lets do my birth sign first to make things 'Super' easy:

To be born on my birthdate in 'Solar' astrology is to be 'Aquarius', who's opposite is 'Leo' = A solar CAT.

To be born on my birthdate in 'Lunar' astrology is to be a 'Monkey', who's opposite is 'Tiger' = A lunar CAT.

Already we have 2 cats, one solar, one lunar. My next appearace will be as a CAT fish.

My time of birth is 17.32 according to my birth certificate. In Lunar Astrology, this is the hour of Ba-Metal, 'Ba' = 'Soul'.

The Lunar year 1968/69 is a + Earth year.

Nuff said re: my birthdate.

So what about tananet?

A breif rundown. Seems there is a god who creates the world, and does so in some ritual involving masturbation, and this is the scource of 'Tananet' as it went from 'Tent-het-nub' to whatever other alternatives that went from Tent-Het-nub, a pharoah, to Tannt to Tannanet, and then it hit me, I found it in, wait for it, Donald Mackenzies book, legends of the Gods, so I'll quote what I found directly:

'An interesting contrast is afforded by the two great rival religions of this period of transition. While the theology of Heliopolis was based upon sun worship, that of Memphis was based upon earth worship.

Ptah, the creation elf (I was less than 4 feet when I left school, a midget) of the latter city, had been united with Tanen or Tatûnen, (Note Edinburgh Tattoo(N?), the earth giant, who resembles Seb. The dwarfish deity then assumed gigantic proportions, and became a "world god" or Great Father. A hymn addressed to Ptah Tanen declares that his head is in the heavens while his feet are on the earth or in the Duat, the underworld. "The wind", declared the priestly poet, "issues from your nostrils (my broken nose makes breathing difficult and loud) and the waters from your mouth (new falsers and forced injections cause 'dribbling'). Upon your back grows the grain. The sun and the moon are your eyes. When you do sleep it is dark, and when you do open your eyes it is bright again.

Ptah Tanen was lauded as "a perfect god" who came forth "perfect in all his parts" (I was born with a full set of teeth). At the beginning he was all alone. He built up his body and shaped his limbs ere the sky was fashioned and the world was set in order, and ere the waters issued (from firth of) forth. Unlike Ra, he did not rise from the primordial deep. "You did discover yourself", sang the Memphite poet, "in the circumstance of one who made for himself a (Arthurs?) seat and shaped the Two Lands". The suggestion is that, therefore, of a mountain giant with his 'seat' or 'chair' upon some lofty peak, an idea which only a hill folk could have imported. "No father begot you and no mother gave you birth," the poet declared; "You did fashion yourself without the aid of any other being.'

Then I find in G.R.S.Meads 'Mysteries of Amenta':

It is the chapter by which one assumes the form of Ptah, the great architect of the universe. The speaker says, “He is four times the arm’s length of Ra, four times the width of the world” ( Rit., ch. 82, Renouf), which is a mode of describing the four quarters or four sides of the earth, as represented by the Egyptians. There were seven primary powers in the mythical and astronomical phases, six of whom are represented by zootypes, and the seventh is imaged in the likeness of a man.

Now the pyramid is 4 x 756 feet at base, but 4 times the width of Ra? = 12.756!

Now you know ptah tatunen is the great architect... of edinburgh... wiccans call him John Barleycorn. Wiccan witchcraft IS freemasonry, who cant say jesus, so use john, or ptah!!!

To badecker: read the pistis sophia by grs mead. I read the real deal, its held under lock n key, white glove material in the national library... while reading, search that txt for elizabeth, in particular, to 'whom' she sent her light to, and why!
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February 08, 2024, 12:12:11 AM
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The Bible tells us right in Genesis about Satan playing the role of a serpent to entice Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Why would he want them to do this, and why had God commanded that they not eat the fruit?

When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.

Then in Genesis 6, the angels (some of them) came down and married women. So, here is what happened.

The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was a tree that Satan worked on genetically. Satan's genetics changed Adam and Eve when they ate the fruit. Before that time, the reproduction system of A&E was different than ours. But after the change, their reproduction system was compatible with that of the angels who came down and married women.

Read Genesis, the first few chapters, and see that you don't have to read all that creepy science fiction nonsense that you are always talking about, to understand what was going on in the early times of the world. BTW, the world as we know it is only about 7,500 years old.

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February 12, 2024, 05:22:11 AM
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Why not? Without god never possible to run the earth and god is allah and first messenger / prophet is Adam and last and greatest messenger / prophet is Muhammad it’s real and 100% right proof.
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The Bible tells us right in Genesis about Satan playing the role of a serpent to entice Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Why would he want them to do this, and why had God commanded that they not eat the fruit?

When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.

its symbolic, to teach the less educated
the adams apple in throat(related to the thyroid) is what makes the difference between a neanderthal/cretin vs a civilised man

the greeks knew this in the BC days. it however got turned into a campfire story of serpents and fruits. to generate a new religion amungst the people that couldnt read and write.. yep preachers used to do those things back then.
writing the bible came later

its like trying to teach a toddler about how babies are made..
they get told that "daddy put a baby in mommys tummy" the kid then tels everyone that "daddy fed mommy and she ate a baby"
see how easily things get twisted into a fiction story,

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The Bible tells us right in Genesis about Satan playing the role of a serpent to entice Adam and Eve to eat the fruit. Why would he want them to do this, and why had God commanded that they not eat the fruit?

When they ate the fruit, they changed physically somehow. They knew it, and so did God when He walked in the Garden in the cool of the day.

its symbolic, to teach the less educated
the adams apple in throat(related to the thyroid) is what makes the difference between a neanderthal/cretin vs a civilised man

the greeks knew this in the BC days. it however got turned into a campfire story of serpents and fruits. to generate a new religion amungst the people that couldnt read and write.. yep preachers used to do those things back then.
writing the bible came later

its like trying to teach a toddler about how babies are made..
they get told that "daddy put a baby in mommys tummy" the kid then tels everyone that "daddy fed mommy and she ate a baby"
see how easily things get twisted into a fiction story,

You are missing the important thing. As usual, you focus on the trivial.

When did Moses, the writer (transcriber of the firs two chapters) of Genesis live? History people suggest the 14th to the 13th century BC. How many years ago is that? Somewhere in the range of almost 3,500 years ago.

Why is this important? Because, after all that time, there are possibly over 2 billion people, currently, who believe that Moses existed... including Muslims. That, alone is a miracle... after 3,500 years.

Forget Aristotle, and Plato, and Socrates, and the rest of the ancient hero's of science. They don't hold a candle to Moses... not in historical significance, or in truth of writing, or in the power of God that lives with him right now in the Kingdom of Heaven, where he still lives in power.

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it was actually suggested the character of moses was the story of exodus wrote by the writer who put himmself into his own story to give himself some provenance..
you know.. write a story of fiction, make yourself the hero, tell people of the book and get people to sell, recite it around the villages and make yourself famous.

then with the fame then start the religion based on your rules you also created but saying the rules came from magic mystery giant in the clouds so no one can question it

my opinion. a science fiction writer started a campfire on the top of the hill by burning a bush to stay warm, found some magic mushrooms. started talking to himself while thinking the fire was his conscience speaking to him. and he envisioned his own path of gathering a flock of loyal people to follow him, one mushroom lead to another and by the time he sobered up and came down the hill. he had a action plan and rule book to start a religion

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science can carbon date things and show how old neanderthals and humans have been around and cave paintings have proven the limitations of the written word where most communication was of campfire stories not books for the adam and eve renditions

books came later with many revisions and many translations , scriptures before it pieced together where multiple different stories are made into one
like the story of character moses found as a baby is likened to/plagiarised from the origin story of king Sargon of Akkad legend

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it was actually suggested the character of moses was the story of exodus wrote by the writer who put himmself into his own story to give himself some provenance..
you know.. write a story of fiction, make yourself the hero, tell people of the book and get people to sell, recite it around the villages and make yourself famous.

then with the fame then start the religion based on your rules you also created but saying the rules came from magic mystery giant in the clouds so no one can question it

my opinion. a science fiction writer started a campfire on the top of the hill by burning a bush to stay warm, found some magic mushrooms. started talking to himself while thinking the fire was his conscience speaking to him. and he envisioned his own path of gathering a flock of loyal people to follow him, one mushroom lead to another and by the time he sobered up and came down the hill. he had a action plan and rule book to start a religion

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science can carbon date things and show how old neanderthals and humans have been around and cave paintings have proven the limitations of the written word where most communication was of campfire stories not books for the adam and eve renditions

books came later with many revisions and many translations , scriptures before it pieced together where multiple different stories are made into one
like the story of character moses found as a baby is likened to/plagiarised from the origin story of king Sargon of Akkad legend

Carbon dating is flawed and can't be trusted.

The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the Bible is reasonably accurate for the last more than 2000 years.

And the big one, again. There is more to the Bible and Moses writings than some simple book that was simply copied. More than 2 billion people believe it. Most of the other people haven't been introduced to the Bible, or they would believe it, too.

Seems that it's the stupid people who look at evolution theory, but can't seem to see that it is flawed. I guess they simply need a different religion than the Bible.

Good thing that we have engineers who can correct what the scientists mess up.

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February 21, 2024, 10:27:41 PM
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Religion has confused most people, in the case of God existence even the philosophers that brought about science where believers of God existence but what there where only against was the theocratic leadership which also alined with BaDecker statement that the scientist are only there to make a living out of testing and testing theories to prove somethings.

This philosophers wanted the leadership from the priest who where there greatest leaders back then but along the line the concept was twisted to prove the believe of the religionist wrong. although it succeeded and that lead to the science of now.

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