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March 19, 2017, 08:18:06 AM
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I just read that AlphaBay is now accepting Ethereum as a coin. I think that this won't make XMR's life easier. Especially not when all are in the hype of ETH.

Sad that XMR couldn't really use the momentum. But hey it has always a positive side. We probably can rebuy at 0.0080 again soon Smiley I hope so very much. But staying at this is also ok or going higher...but I am happy sold at ATH...always found a greater fool Cheesy

I know people like you.
They tend to brag how they bought their coins on the absolute floor and sold all out at the very peak to the "greater fool".

I have no clue where it goes from here... Still the ATH is not even touched so kinda bearish sentiment here but I am hopeful that my bearishness turns to the euphoria.
Bear in mind, Dark coin cost yesterday 0.12 btc or so and a while ago you were able to convert Moneros to Dark coins at the ratio of 1:1.
If I am not mistaken, Roger Ver is behind the Dark coin pump and he has told according to Bitcoin Meister that he also likes Monero so perhaps Monero is the next coin that will get the pump, what do you think?

Or Dark is just so much easier to pump. Few big hands and all the coins stuck in masternodes etc etc.

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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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March 19, 2017, 08:59:44 AM
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Cup and handle on XMR chart?  Tongue
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March 19, 2017, 11:35:39 AM
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What are the transaction fees for a Monero tx as of today?

As the blocksize limit is adaptative, can we say that these fees will stay forever more or less the same, regardless of the number of tx/day on Monero?

as far as i know they are going down to a lower average, when the overworked fee/blocksize algorithm is activated in the April 15 HF.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/609g47/why_monero_which_uses_a_dynamic_block_size_still/
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March 19, 2017, 01:28:28 PM
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What are the transaction fees for a Monero tx as of today?

As the blocksize limit is adaptative, can we say that these fees will stay forever more or less the same, regardless of the number of tx/day on Monero?

as far as i know they are going down to a lower average, when the overworked fee/blocksize algorithm is activated in the April 15 HF.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/609g47/why_monero_which_uses_a_dynamic_block_size_still/
Thanks.

Following your link, I have found the current fee algorithm:
fee = (R/R0) * (M0/M) * F0

R: base reward

R0: reference base reward (10 monero)

M: block size limit

M0: minimum block size limit (60000)

F0: 0.002 monero
https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2531/how-does-the-dynamic-fee-calculation-work


Where can we find the one which will be activated on April 15?

Also is it correct to say that there is no fee market since it's an algorithm which decides what are the transaction fees?

https://github.com/JollyMort/monero-research/blob/master/Monero%20Dynamic%20Block%20Size%20and%20Dynamic%20Minimum%20Fee/Monero%20Dynamic%20Block%20Size%20and%20Dynamic%20Minimum%20Fee%20-%20DRAFT.md

I think this is the link you are looking for. I only know that there is no use for a fee market after the initial emission because of the tail emission so blocksizes/fee keep adaptive, unlike BTC in its current state.
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March 19, 2017, 04:48:56 PM
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I just read that AlphaBay is now accepting Ethereum as a coin. I think that this won't make XMR's life easier. Especially not when all are in the hype of ETH.

Sad that XMR couldn't really use the momentum. But hey it has always a positive side. We probably can rebuy at 0.0080 again soon Smiley I hope so very much. But staying at this is also ok or going higher...but I am happy sold at ATH...always found a greater fool Cheesy

I know people like you.
They tend to brag how they bought their coins on the absolute floor and sold all out at the very peak to the "greater fool".

I have no clue where it goes from here... Still the ATH is not even touched so kinda bearish sentiment here but I am hopeful that my bearishness turns to the euphoria.
Bear in mind, Dark coin cost yesterday 0.12 btc or so and a while ago you were able to convert Moneros to Dark coins at the ratio of 1:1.
If I am not mistaken, Roger Ver is behind the Dark coin pump and he has told according to Bitcoin Meister that he also likes Monero so perhaps Monero is the next coin that will get the pump, what do you think?

Ver is supportive of both XMR and Dark Coin and I imagine he has a separate rationale for each coin. XMR has solid tech, a fair launch and a community that is willing to accept the risks of hard forks to stay at the cutting edge of technology in the short term. Dark Coin lacks the tech and fair launch but has marketing, more wallets and typical altcoin low volume so it can offer inexpensive fees.

https://forum.bitcoin.com/monero/monero-price-speculation-thread-t10274.html#p29049

Ver hasn't given up on BTC and is at this point using Dash to try to leverage his vision for growth. I'm very dubious that it'll result in any sort of long term significant gains for Dash usage, which has literally never seen any increased usage prior to February of this year when the pump started. https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-dash.html

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March 19, 2017, 05:13:13 PM
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Hi! I am intersted at Monero. I have an idea for it. What about creating a p2p lending platform based on monero?
P.S. Peer-to-peer lending, sometimes abbreviated P2P lending, is the practice of lending money to individuals or businesses through online services that match lenders directly with borrowers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_lending
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March 19, 2017, 05:44:00 PM
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I just read that AlphaBay is now accepting Ethereum as a coin. I think that this won't make XMR's life easier. Especially not when all are in the hype of ETH.

Sad that XMR couldn't really use the momentum. But hey it has always a positive side. We probably can rebuy at 0.0080 again soon Smiley I hope so very much. But staying at this is also ok or going higher...but I am happy sold at ATH...always found a greater fool Cheesy

I know people like you.
They tend to brag how they bought their coins on the absolute floor and sold all out at the very peak to the "greater fool".

I have no clue where it goes from here... Still the ATH is not even touched so kinda bearish sentiment here but I am hopeful that my bearishness turns to the euphoria.
Bear in mind, Dark coin cost yesterday 0.12 btc or so and a while ago you were able to convert Moneros to Dark coins at the ratio of 1:1.
If I am not mistaken, Roger Ver is behind the Dark coin pump and he has told according to Bitcoin Meister that he also likes Monero so perhaps Monero is the next coin that will get the pump, what do you think?

Ver is supportive of both XMR and Dark Coin and I imagine he has a separate rationale for each coin. XMR has solid tech, a fair launch and a community that is willing to accept the risks of hard forks to stay at the cutting edge of technology in the short term. Dark Coin lacks the tech and fair launch but has marketing, more wallets and typical altcoin low volume so it can offer inexpensive fees.

https://forum.bitcoin.com/monero/monero-price-speculation-thread-t10274.html#p29049

Ver hasn't given up on BTC and is at this point using Dash to try to leverage his vision for growth. I'm very dubious that it'll result in any sort of long term significant gains for Dash usage, which has literally never seen any increased usage prior to February of this year when the pump started. https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-dash.html

Yes.. The adoption of Dash has not increased in line with the price.

Some fuel for  the price increase has been supplied by closing short positions. They are ultimately the 'greater fool' buyers, not because they are wrong, but because they have run out of choices on margin. Short sellers are often right, but they cannot afford to hold positions long enough.

Also, the pump was well timed to coincide with the discussion of BTC Fork.
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March 19, 2017, 05:48:50 PM
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Or Dark is just so much easier to pump. Few big hands and all the coins stuck in masternodes etc etc.

Yup - hype up demand, restrict supply and even buy some to support it?

Easy-peasy if you're centrally controlled.

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March 19, 2017, 05:53:02 PM
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Hi! I am intersted at Monero. I have an idea for it. What about creating a p2p lending platform based on monero?
P.S. Peer-to-peer lending, sometimes abbreviated P2P lending, is the practice of lending money to individuals or businesses through online services that match lenders directly with borrowers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_lending


Would Monero need a multisig for this?

you need to understand that Monero is still quite at basics compared to Bitcoin. But eventually anything will be possible.
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March 19, 2017, 06:53:33 PM
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What is the point of having Monero on coinbase?

Coinbase has some six million accounts - people who are happy having online wallets and trust them to be secure. Coinbase - much like they did/do with Ethereum - would actively market Monero to its existing customers. They would, in effect, do the marketing job for us. That could be huge.

 - Coinbase have publicly stated that they would add new currencies this year.
 - Fluffy was invited to give a presentation there earlier this year. By all accounts it was well received.
 - The Coinbase product manager recently published a beginner's guide to Monero, just as she did for Ethereum a few weeks ago. This was written in conjunction with Coinbase engineers. Coincidence? Possibly, but unlikely.
 - The Director of Engineering - Charlie Lee - at Coinbase has publicly stated he thinks Dash is a scam.

So if Coinbase are gong to add a new currency and if it's not Dash, what's left? Given the (admittedly few) pointers, I would suggest Monero is a good bet.

It is neither illegal to own, buy or sell Monero. If Coinbase have a couple more hurdles to jump selling Monero than they would otherwise have selling another currency, then so be it. It's not a big deal for them. My money is on Coinbase offering Monero in the not-too-distant future.

Edit: Just noticed that Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, tweeted the Guide to Monero referenced above. If that isn't a recommendation, what is?

Where moner start guide?
Link pls
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March 19, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
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What is the point of having Monero on coinbase?

Coinbase has some six million accounts - people who are happy having online wallets and trust them to be secure. Coinbase - much like they did/do with Ethereum - would actively market Monero to its existing customers. They would, in effect, do the marketing job for us. That could be huge.

 - Coinbase have publicly stated that they would add new currencies this year.
 - Fluffy was invited to give a presentation there earlier this year. By all accounts it was well received.
 - The Coinbase product manager recently published a beginner's guide to Monero, just as she did for Ethereum a few weeks ago. This was written in conjunction with Coinbase engineers. Coincidence? Possibly, but unlikely.
 - The Director of Engineering - Charlie Lee - at Coinbase has publicly stated he thinks Dash is a scam.

So if Coinbase are gong to add a new currency and if it's not Dash, what's left? Given the (admittedly few) pointers, I would suggest Monero is a good bet.

It is neither illegal to own, buy or sell Monero. If Coinbase have a couple more hurdles to jump selling Monero than they would otherwise have selling another currency, then so be it. It's not a big deal for them. My money is on Coinbase offering Monero in the not-too-distant future.

Edit: Just noticed that Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, tweeted the Guide to Monero referenced above. If that isn't a recommendation, what is?

Where moner start guide?
Link pls

If you search for Monero infos, there are way better sources, but, https://medium.com/@linda.xie/a-beginners-guide-to-monero-7a5df2c50ed9
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March 19, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
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What is the point of having Monero on coinbase?

Coinbase has some six million accounts - people who are happy having online wallets and trust them to be secure. Coinbase - much like they did/do with Ethereum - would actively market Monero to its existing customers. They would, in effect, do the marketing job for us. That could be huge.

 - Coinbase have publicly stated that they would add new currencies this year.
 - Fluffy was invited to give a presentation there earlier this year. By all accounts it was well received.
 - The Coinbase product manager recently published a beginner's guide to Monero, just as she did for Ethereum a few weeks ago. This was written in conjunction with Coinbase engineers. Coincidence? Possibly, but unlikely.
 - The Director of Engineering - Charlie Lee - at Coinbase has publicly stated he thinks Dash is a scam.

So if Coinbase are gong to add a new currency and if it's not Dash, what's left? Given the (admittedly few) pointers, I would suggest Monero is a good bet.

It is neither illegal to own, buy or sell Monero. If Coinbase have a couple more hurdles to jump selling Monero than they would otherwise have selling another currency, then so be it. It's not a big deal for them. My money is on Coinbase offering Monero in the not-too-distant future.

Edit: Just noticed that Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, tweeted the Guide to Monero referenced above. If that isn't a recommendation, what is?

Where moner start guide?
Link pls

Use https://www.monero.how/ that is a trusted source.

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March 19, 2017, 10:30:00 PM
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what is the link to the monero emission? thanks
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March 19, 2017, 11:06:21 PM
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what is the link to the monero emission? thanks

See:

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2560/is-there-somewhere-i-can-see-a-graph-of-current-and-future-inflation-rates-of-su/2561#2561

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March 20, 2017, 11:22:24 AM
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Since this is the speculation thread...

ATH in sight?   Are we bullish? Wink

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March 20, 2017, 01:02:33 PM
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Since this is the speculation thread...

ATH in sight?   Are we bullish? Wink


we are bullish!
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March 20, 2017, 01:06:54 PM
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Since this is the speculation thread...

ATH in sight?   Are we bullish? Wink


yes no more bullshit

we are bullish  Grin

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March 20, 2017, 01:21:36 PM
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what are yalls theories to why dash & ethereum are out performing us so big league
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March 20, 2017, 01:24:56 PM
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In case of Dark coin people are realizing the benefits of marketing. If you have limited supply and marketing machine creating demand it is obvious that the price rises.
In case of ETH, there are rumors (haven't checked because not so interested) that Alphabay is implementing Etherium.
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March 20, 2017, 01:28:50 PM
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what are yalls theories to why dash & ethereum are out performing us so big league


Go back a bit in this thread and read my posts lately regarding possible Hail Mary Pass gambit by DashMasters, i.e. last ditch attempt to buy some kind of market adoption, merchant acceptance, etc, to get actual *transactions* going "artificially" in order to 'legitimize' their scamcoin project ... before other coins (cough xmr cough) take over real market segments like the DMN's and coinbase adoption, etc.

Most here have pretty much shot down my idea on theory that it's simpler and more likely just a straight up Pump & Dump (same as has been done with Dash several times before already, just look at the chart, albeit THIS time on a much grander scale)...

But unless and until the DUMP actually comes I am going to very carefully try to monitor actual Dash transaction volumes just in case they really *are* doing something like this.  It's a desperate play but may actually have a small chance to succeed... maybe (?)

That's re: Dash anyway.  As for ETH?  No clue LOL


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