[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Hueristic]

Call a spade a spade. The fact that we have healthy enough governance to routinely hard fork is amiable. We should pronounce it proudly. Call it a routine hard fork.

People are just basically idiots there is nothing we can do about it but dumb things down.

I don't understand what you are saying... ELI5?

Feel like that is too advanced for many--maybe a ELI3-6months.

ZEC also up about 50% so clearly something driving money into the privacy coins.

I know several - well, three - hedgies that were suckered into ZEC.  Seeing transactions unwound right in front of them wasn't enough to derail their unquestioning faith in mossad math and zooko "theranos" wilcoxism.

You guys crack me up, love to read this thread when I get up!
Was going to grab some yesterday before spike but coinbase still hosing me.
Wonder how long till the next dip?

[explorer]

Wonder how long till the next dip?

The one to $650?  Soon enough.  It will be tough watching the quad digits slip away, but buy that dip, and we'll be back again before you know it!  

[ArticMine]

I was going to arbitrage XMR on Bithumb then I realized that BTC on Bithumb is $23500.  

The only effective arbitrage I can see here is via USD/KRW; however this must be heavily regulated in South Korea creating effective foreign exchange controls. Otherwise this arbitrage would have been done a long time ago. It is USD/KRW that is out of whack here.  

Edit 1: The non KRW price should be considered the true free market price here.
Edit 2: If effective foreign exchange controls is not the issue, then there is something seriously not right at Bithunb with KRW fiat withdrawals.

[cAPSLOCK]

I was going to arbitrage XMR on Bithumb then I realized that BTC on Bithumb is $23500.  

The only effective arbitrage I can see here is via USD/KRW; however this must be heavily regulated in South Korea creating effective foreign exchange controls. Otherwise this arbitrage would have been done a long time ago. It is USD/KRW that is out of whack here.  

Edit 1: The non KRW price should be considered the true free market price here.
Edit 2: If effective foreign exchange controls is not the issue, there is something seriously not right at Bithunb with KRW fiat withdrawals.

I certainly agree that we should not expect the Korean exchanges to be a good representative of the free market price.

On the other hand I have been noticing a tendency for some rallies to be frontrun a little by Korean action.  However, this is more gut than due diligence.

[rinus]

I am reading things about big money comming in on 15 januarie because of wall street bonusses... any of this shit relevant? and good for xmr?

[jeen5]

I am reading things about big money comming in on 15 januarie because of wall street bonusses... any of this shit relevant? and good for xmr?

monero has shown that it is an important project. I expect $ 700-800 by mid-February. it's too late. I think it will have a positive effect.

[rinus]

I am reading things about big money comming in on 15 januarie because of wall street bonusses... any of this shit relevant? and good for xmr?

monero has shown that it is an important project. I expect $ 700-800 by mid-February. it's too late. I think it will have a positive effect.

what is to late?

[Febo]

Bitcoin maximalist talking about crypto anonymity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNoOS3G9xZQ

I finally decided to advanced verify on Bittrex and Poloniex and apparently Poloniex now ditched camera verification and is same as on Bittrex. Just ID from both sides and selfie.

[johnalan]

ZEC also up about 50% so clearly something driving money into the privacy coins.

I know several - well, three - hedgies that were suckered into ZEC.  Seeing transactions unwound right in front of them wasn't enough to derail their unquestioning faith in mossad math and zooko "theranos" wilcoxism.

Can’t see Monero losing out to Zec at this point.

Monero will be 2k by end of 2019

[S.Sandberg]

I agree with the previous posts, monero will likely hit 1 to 3k$, being anonymous will be the next gold.
Take a look at violent government censorship and people who need to support dissidents anonymously...

This is a big rising phenomenon. So yeah monero has a really heavy value here.

Anon coins are next big thing.

[Tony116]

This coin does not need to wait for sharp jumps up. This is one of the most stable coins now. If you want to make a small profit or just to save your funds - invest in Monero. In a few years, the percentage of growth will be very high.

[oksimoron]

Is now good price XMR/BTC? Can XMR go up to the sky 

[DZRCoins]

Is now good price XMR/BTC? Can XMR go up to the sky 

yes. It definetely can!!

[jeda2000]

XMR and Zec are projects that I hope will come at very high prices. Bitcoin already calms down and they are starting to move. We can reach 2000 dollar levels this year.

[obit33]

XMR and Zec are projects that I hope will come at very high prices. Bitcoin already calms down and they are starting to move. We can reach 2000 dollar levels this year.

I think most people into xmr don't like zerocash that much. The technology is interesting, but there are some serious red flags:

• trusted setup: crypto should be about trustlessness: http://weuse.cash/2016/10/28/the-untrusted-setup/
• optional privacy, very bad design decision: https://z.cash/blog/new-research-on-shielded-ecosystem.html , Peter also has an interesting opinion about this: https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/937929196688592896
• Founders reward: https://z.cash/blog/funding.html 10% is huge, and makes it look like a moneygrab
• The fact that it's a company, with a CEO (zooko): men in dark suits and shady glasses could pay a visit...
• has some shady sponsors like DARPA...
• some really weird statements: http://archive.is/PuYSL

so, when I really need privacy, I'm going to use monero...

[explorer]

XMR and Zec are projects that I hope will come at very high prices. Bitcoin already calms down and they are starting to move. We can reach 2000 dollar levels this year.

I think most people into xmr don't like zerocash that much. The technology is interesting, but there are some serious red flags:

• trusted setup: crypto should be about trustlessness: http://weuse.cash/2016/10/28/the-untrusted-setup/
• optional privacy, very bad design decision: https://z.cash/blog/new-research-on-shielded-ecosystem.html , Peter also has an interesting opinion about this: https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/937929196688592896
• Founders reward: https://z.cash/blog/funding.html 10% is huge, and makes it look like a moneygrab
• The fact that it's a company, with a CEO (zooko): men in dark suits and shady glasses could pay a visit...
• has some shady sponsors like DARPA...
• some really weird statements: http://archive.is/PuYSL

so, when I really need privacy, I'm going to use monero...

Yeah, a 'privacy' coin with untrustable privacy isn't left with much, is it?  Besides a low issuance that allows them to keep the price pumped up...

[amaral1977]

XMR and Zec are projects that I hope will come at very high prices. Bitcoin already calms down and they are starting to move. We can reach 2000 dollar levels this year.

I think most people into xmr don't like zerocash that much. The technology is interesting, but there are some serious red flags:

• trusted setup: crypto should be about trustlessness: http://weuse.cash/2016/10/28/the-untrusted-setup/
• optional privacy, very bad design decision: https://z.cash/blog/new-research-on-shielded-ecosystem.html , Peter also has an interesting opinion about this: https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/937929196688592896
• Founders reward: https://z.cash/blog/funding.html 10% is huge, and makes it look like a moneygrab
• The fact that it's a company, with a CEO (zooko): men in dark suits and shady glasses could pay a visit...
• has some shady sponsors like DARPA...
• some really weird statements: http://archive.is/PuYSL

so, when I really need privacy, I'm going to use monero...

Yeah, a 'privacy' coin with untrustable privacy isn't left with much, is it?  Besides a low issuance that allows them to keep the price pumped up...

I will always be a noob. Today i learned that the first ZECs were issued on polo for 4400$ or BTC. People are arguing about the maths to reach this value, but what really strikes me is that people speculate on price and still aim for this ATH... for me it was the last ZEC ( i was holding 1 unit of it) . It became part of my XMR stash.

[jwinterm]

looks like the next first big real Privacy Coin

[explorer]

looks like the next first big only real Privacy Coin

[ozkraut]

Lol ROFL,,,

I had replied to a comment in r/bitcoin which just begged to have bitcoin struck out and replaced with monero, Like 'life and death and private money jadajada, and bitcoin is the solution. Anyway I did a 'FTFY' and this is what I got im inbox:

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a year ! Lol desperate