[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Globb0]

We the Monerons are leaving this planet.

You have disappointed us again humans with your ill formed fork ideas.

Prepare blasters for take off.

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[denetci]

I think we should get in touch with all exchanges and tell them how scammy MoneroV is and the flaws it have and promessing to stop using them if they start to support MoneroV

[Lalapan]

Very pleased to see Monero back in the top 10 

yes, monero is worthy to be in that position. this is a good coin to invest, because it has a high degree of privacy and also becomes one of the most personal, secure and anonymous coins in the world. even the amount sent in the transaction is also safe and hidden. I believe the future of monero will be even brighter.

[Febo]

I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite.

Another elite?  Was not the one formed in 2013 already enough?

Well if we dont got the new elite we at least got Ledger HW code merged: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/commit/c7ace5fa3d412410312e21c55c28068dcd625fef  and just published soem news: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/820uee/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration_some/

And the another dew meeting: https://monerobase.com/wiki/DevMeeting_2018-03-04

[bubaba]

yeah i just got that link for the Dev meeting too.

Interesting is this part imo

12:21 PM <psychocrypt> are there ASICs on the way?
12:21 PM <+moneromooo> The fork is pushed back to end of march, due to the two weeks faffing around.
12:21 PM <@fluffypony> psychocrypt: ASICs already exist

So yes there are ASICS and the fork will be end of March not at 14.03.
Hope they can counter the ASICS attack

[cAPSLOCK]

I dunno.  It's a triangle...

And that is history.

[Whtwabbit]

Looks like that triangle you were talkin' about broke somehow





 We're going to need a bigger triangle

[tokeweed]

This Monero at 300 USD is boring me now.  I want moon. 

But seriously, I think Monero is the only coin capable of reaching 10K USD per coin.  It's clearly trying to get it's fair share of transaction volume.  It's sad to say this but it's slowly eating up Bitcoin's share of the pie.

[Lontonbit]

Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

[Globb0]

Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Where the evidence of any of that subjective crap talk

Slow old bitcoin code, yep you know where its at.

Why you mad brah?

[Febo]

Looks like that triangle you were talkin' about broke somehow

 We're going to need a bigger triangle

Maybe we need a hockey stick.

[aamirsuh]

I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.

[Anon136]

I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.

ZEC's only chance for long term relevance is if they can massively improve its performance with Zk-Starks or something similar. That may not necessarily be a terrible speculative (I must admit I'm considering it so talk me out of it guys) play but it is a high risk proposition. Monero works right now.

[ransow72]

MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite, and MoneroV will implement new protocols that will solve the scaling problems facing Monero and other cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin.

[infofront]

Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Downsides of BTCP:

• Optional Privacy
• Approximately 1 in 3 chance of being able to link a "shielded" transaction.
• Only ~0.3% of transaction will be truly private.
• Scammy origins. Lead developer of Zclassic announced he was abandoning the project. Price of ZCL plummets. 6 months later, after he's had plenty of time to fill his bags, he announces that he's resurrecting ZCL and that ZCL holders will be included in the BTCP airdrop.
• Bloated bitcoin blockchain
• Absolutely no innovation

Benefits of BTCP:

• Tries to ride on the coattails of Bitcoin by using Bitcoin in the name.

[Globb0]

On March 14, Monero will welcome a new member to its step-family – MoneroV.
Among other differences, MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite

Care to elaborate here? how can they give you 10:1 and also be sorting out the "supply problem".

you have been fooled with rhetoric

[aminorex]

ZEC's only chance for long term relevance is if they can massively improve its performance with Zk-Starks or something similar. That may not necessarily be a terrible speculative (I must admit I'm considering it so talk me out of it guys) play but it is a high risk proposition. Monero works right now.

Short term speculation in moderate amounts of ZEC would be within my own risk tolerances, if I found a comparative advantage. Not large speculations or long-term holding.  

Fundamentally, I don't see any scenario in which there is a saturating adoption curve for ZEC  It is disqualified from DNMs by optional privacy.  Optional privacy is compromised privacy. The likelihood of TLA backdoors is high because of the SIGINT background of devs and public statements about backdooring it made by Wilcox and Greene (even ignoring the Bangkok incident).  The novelty and complexity of the crypto makes for higher vulnerability, ceteris paribus.  Finally, it is gradually choking itself to death even with little or no economic use; try supporting a DNM unicorn on ZEC, I dare you. Scalability problems will bring your business to a crawl, and the work-arounds compromise privacy even further. Although, frankly, I would be surprised if you stayed in business long enough to die from scaling.

No, too much risk for me.  If I wouldn't eat the dog food, why would I buy it? Anyhow, I have a cat already, which handles the mice quite well.

[blumkinnn]

I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.

Such an outcome is also possible. But with this outcome many will lose their savings in the crypto currency. Smart investor stores more than 80% in a reliable crypto currency.

[generalizethis]

I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.

Such an outcome is also possible. But with this outcome many will lose their savings in the crypto currency. Smart investor stores more than 80% in a reliable crypto currency.

If it's a widespread crash, like the dotcom bubble collapse, it won't matter what you're holding, amazon had the same fate as pets.com--being invested in a reliable cryptocurrency only means that it will win back the losses when the market returns. If you can correctly time your exit, you'll be able to buy more of the better cryptos, so it's not necesarily a bad thing.

[infofront]

I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.

Such an outcome is also possible. But with this outcome many will lose their savings in the crypto currency. Smart investor stores more than 80% in a reliable crypto currency.

That's why I decided to put my life savings into Dentacoin.