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March 05, 2018, 04:56:28 PM
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I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.

ZEC's only chance for long term relevance is if they can massively improve its performance with Zk-Starks or something similar. That may not necessarily be a terrible speculative (I must admit I'm considering it so talk me out of it guys) play but it is a high risk proposition. Monero works right now.

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March 05, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
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MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite, and MoneroV will implement new protocols that will solve the scaling problems facing Monero and other cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin.

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March 05, 2018, 05:11:33 PM
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Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Downsides of BTCP:

Benefits of BTCP
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  • Tries to ride on the coattails of Bitcoin by using Bitcoin in the name.
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March 05, 2018, 05:22:15 PM
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On March 14, Monero will welcome a new member to its step-family – MoneroV.
Among other differences, MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite

Care to elaborate here? how can they give you 10:1 and also be sorting out the "supply problem".

you have been fooled with rhetoric

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March 05, 2018, 05:28:54 PM
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ZEC's only chance for long term relevance is if they can massively improve its performance with Zk-Starks or something similar. That may not necessarily be a terrible speculative (I must admit I'm considering it so talk me out of it guys) play but it is a high risk proposition. Monero works right now.

Short term speculation in moderate amounts of ZEC would be within my own risk tolerances, if I found a comparative advantage. Not large speculations or long-term holding.  

Fundamentally, I don't see any scenario in which there is a saturating adoption curve for ZEC  It is disqualified from DNMs by optional privacy.  Optional privacy is compromised privacy. The likelihood of TLA backdoors is high because of the SIGINT background of devs and public statements about backdooring it made by Wilcox and Greene (even ignoring the Bangkok incident).  The novelty and complexity of the crypto makes for higher vulnerability, ceteris paribus.  Finally, it is gradually choking itself to death even with little or no economic use; try supporting a DNM unicorn on ZEC, I dare you. Scalability problems will bring your business to a crawl, and the work-arounds compromise privacy even further. Although, frankly, I would be surprised if you stayed in business long enough to die from scaling.

No, too much risk for me.  If I wouldn't eat the dog food, why would I buy it? Anyhow, I have a cat already, which handles the mice quite well.

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March 05, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
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I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.
Such an outcome is also possible. But with this outcome many will lose their savings in the crypto currency. Smart investor stores more than 80% in a reliable crypto currency.

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March 05, 2018, 05:38:39 PM
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I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.
Such an outcome is also possible. But with this outcome many will lose their savings in the crypto currency. Smart investor stores more than 80% in a reliable crypto currency.

If it's a widespread crash, like the dotcom bubble collapse, it won't matter what you're holding, amazon had the same fate as pets.com--being invested in a reliable cryptocurrency only means that it will win back the losses when the market returns. If you can correctly time your exit, you'll be able to buy more of the better cryptos, so it's not necesarily a bad thing.

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March 05, 2018, 05:39:22 PM
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I think one day the weak projects will collapse. Robust projects of the market like ZEC, such as XMR, can survive after such a time. It sounds like a solid project to me, MONERO.
Such an outcome is also possible. But with this outcome many will lose their savings in the crypto currency. Smart investor stores more than 80% in a reliable crypto currency.

That's why I decided to put my life savings into Dentacoin.
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March 05, 2018, 05:49:56 PM
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On March 14, Monero will welcome a new member to its step-family – MoneroV.
At the time of the fork, holders of Monero will receive free MoneroV tokens at a ratio of 1:10 – meaning that for every 1 Monero token someone owns, they will receive 10 MoneroV tokens.Among other differences, MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite, and MoneroV will implement new protocols that will solve the scaling problems facing Monero and other cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin.



MONEROV is a SCAM!! . They are doing nothing to prevent the weakening of the network, censor and ban users on their reddit and their LIMITED supply is a joke because they have a 1:10 ratio and will only pass XMR in scarcity in sth like year 3000. Don't be greedy and fall for this.
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March 05, 2018, 06:03:00 PM
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ZEC's only chance for long term relevance is if they can massively improve its performance with Zk-Starks or something similar. That may not necessarily be a terrible speculative (I must admit I'm considering it so talk me out of it guys) play but it is a high risk proposition. Monero works right now.

Short term speculation in moderate amounts of ZEC would be within my own risk tolerances, if I found a comparative advantage. Not large speculations or long-term holding.  

Fundamentally, I don't see any scenario in which there is a saturating adoption curve for ZEC  It is disqualified from DNMs by optional privacy.  Optional privacy is compromised privacy. The likelihood of TLA backdoors is high because of the SIGINT background of devs and public statements about backdooring it made by Wilcox and Greene (even ignoring the Bangkok incident).  The novelty and complexity of the crypto makes for higher vulnerability, ceteris paribus.  Finally, it is gradually choking itself to death even with little or no economic use; try supporting a DNM unicorn on ZEC, I dare you. Scalability problems will bring your business to a crawl, and the work-arounds compromise privacy even further. Although, frankly, I would be surprised if you stayed in business long enough to die from scaling.

No, too much risk for me.  If I wouldn't eat the dog food, why would I buy it? Anyhow, I have a cat already, which handles the mice quite well.

Well said. There definitely could be money to be made getting in before zk-starks and out after but when you sum it all up like that I feel like I would rather avoid the risk also. +Merit for that one.

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March 05, 2018, 07:27:27 PM
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New FFS for Bulletproofs:

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/90007/bulletproofs-audit-fundraising

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March 05, 2018, 09:04:37 PM
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On March 14, Monero will welcome a new member to its step-family – MoneroV.
At the time of the fork, holders of Monero will receive free MoneroV tokens at a ratio of 1:10 – meaning that for every 1 Monero token someone owns, they will receive 10 MoneroV tokens.Among other differences, MoneroV has limited supply of coins while Monero’s coin supply is infinite, and MoneroV will implement new protocols that will solve the scaling problems facing Monero and other cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin.



MONEROV is a SCAM!! . They are doing nothing to prevent the weakening of the network, censor and ban users on their reddit and their LIMITED supply is a joke because they have a 1:10 ratio and will only pass XMR in scarcity in sth like year 3000. Don't be greedy and fall for this.

Pretty sure it's closer to the year 3500.  But whats a measly 5 centuries?
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March 05, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
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Monero Airdrop makes Xmr very popular. The price increased. Was very simple to understand, but then I guess not everyone has basic reading comprehension.
And of course all of this is just crap talk no one here really knows the whys and hows of this crypto market.
At any rate will be interesting to see if a sell off happens before or after the airdrop.But All we saw Zcl and ETC airdrop. Don't wait until the airdrop. Quit it 3 or 5 days to airdrop.
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March 05, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
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I am still ready for a MoneroV person to paste some actual facts here.


What is the total supply of Monerov vs Monero today and into the future? a graph or some other representation.

I know the tail emission is not infinite, that's silly bs. But Monerov starts with practically infinite coins, whats the point then.

What is the premine being held by anonymous devs? Are any coins being hidden?

Without open source how can we know anything is secure?

Why ask to reuse Monero keys? if you had a solid idea you would use your own name.

Conclusion    moneroV = roger Ver


Conclusion can only be this is BS.




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March 05, 2018, 10:06:24 PM
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It follows pretty obvious from how mining works that you shouldn't be mining at all in place with high electricity costs (i.e. much of Europe) unless you are doing it with the understanding that you are losing money
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March 06, 2018, 02:54:19 AM
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Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Sorry just had to say, You are an Idiot. that us all. Smiley

Bar just keeps getting lower and lower.


ZEC's only chance for long term relevance is if they can massively improve its performance with Zk-Starks or something similar. That may not necessarily be a terrible speculative (I must admit I'm considering it so talk me out of it guys) play but it is a high risk proposition. Monero works right now.

Even that won't help them with the mining tax. Lol


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March 06, 2018, 02:56:00 AM
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Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Sorry just had to say, You are an Idiot. that us all. Smiley

Bar just keeps getting lower and lower.

The ignore has been getting a workout in here again  Undecided
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March 06, 2018, 03:05:11 AM
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Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.
Thanks for the information but you are a fool, you don't know anything about the onero ecosystem else you wont be shilling that scum coin here.
Check on github of Monero and you will find the organic engagement of developers there.

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March 06, 2018, 03:28:45 AM
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Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Sorry just had to say, You are an Idiot. that us all. Smiley

Bar just keeps getting lower and lower.

The ignore has been getting a workout in here again  Undecided

Been trying to catch up on the last weekend and yup lots of those, whats with all these airdrop ones though? It's weird.

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Bitcoin private has better privacy technology and you have the option to send a private transaction or public. Plus it's built on bitcoins blockchain which has better written code from over 400 developers that worked on it.

Sorry just had to say, You are an Idiot. that us all. Smiley

Bar just keeps getting lower and lower.

The ignore has been getting a workout in here again  Undecided

Been trying to catch up on the last weekend and yup lots of those, whats with all these airdrop ones though? It's weird.

Some links:

https://getmonero.org/2018/02/11/PoW-change-and-key-reuse.html

https://medium.com/@tweetingpauls/beware-of-non-native-forks-of-monero-6f5a0bf1fccf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7ymvvz/monerov_a_trap_laid_for_monero_users/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7xzdro/what_chain_splits_mean_for_monero/

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/7608/what-is-monerov-and-how-is-it-different-than-monero

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Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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