[ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android, iOS, Web

[peled1986]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

[devphp]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

Expecting success one month after launch is naive and immature. We're also in the first bear market in crypto currencies by the way, things are going to be pretty slow on all crypto fronts for the next 10-11 months. There is not much capital and adoption moving to cryptos until then, it will be a complete washout of the weak and impatient hands that crowded this market at the end of last year.

[peled1986]

The Gems Team are all from Israel.

You are repeating yourself,...

I am starting to lose respect for you peled1986...  
WTF are you doing still answering those FUCKIN' RETARD-TROLLS?!?!?  

haha ^^
great to see you in this thread! 

[fulcare]

The Gems Team are all from Israel.

You are repeating yourself,...

I am starting to lose respect for you peled1986...  

WTF are you doing still answering those FUCKIN' RETARD-TROLLS?!?!?  

Uh Oh The Curse of Smaragda. Everyone should know every single coin this guy turns up on fails.

[fulcare]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

As long as you keep repeating that you expect FB and Whatstheapp like numbers I'll keep repeating you won't so people aren't tricked into thinking they just bought 10% of FB. NXTTY IS a good comparison to see how well a chat crypto currency might catch on. A few weeks ago they were saying they were going to gets millions of downloads but they haven't managed past 5,000. Just keeping a balanced head and keeping it real as the usual ICO delirium sets in.

[peled1986]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

As long as you keep repeating that you expect FB and Whatstheapp like numbers I'll keep repeating you won't so people aren't tricked into thinking they just bought 10% of FB.

We never said that we expect FB and Whatsapp like numbers.
Please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9183382;topicseen#msg9183382

[fulcare]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

As long as you keep repeating that you expect FB and Whatstheapp like numbers I'll keep repeating you won't so people aren't tricked into thinking they just bought 10% of FB.

We never said that we expect FB and Whatsapp like numbers.
Please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9183382;topicseen#msg9183382

Dude you got their apps on your website as your target under the heading 'Value'  


And if you want to start defending your app, defend this. How do you expect an app to succeed these days where their are hundreds of chat apps with new ones coming everyday when you don't even have photo sharing! Cause photo sharing will be painfully slow?

[clochard]

do you still have a problem? if yes:

Sorry to hear you're having problems! Please shoot us an email at helpdesk@koinify.com with the email your account is linked to, along with your Bitcoin address and the address you sent your funds to. Should have just been a temporary glitch. We'll get this resolved ASAP for you.

They still don't appear. However I have sent you guys this morning an email with the Bitcoin addresses, so I suppose it will be fixed soon.

Any idea how long it will take?

Thanks in advance!

P.s. good to read you are working on a solution for android. I am from the Netherlands and at least half of my friends here are using android, while in the overal population it is almost 80%. So in order for these airdrops to be fair, everyone should have equal chances. With the current strategy, people living in countries that have higher Android adoption would be unnecessarily disadvantaged.

[reRaise]

I dont know why fulcare keeps repeating himself, nxtty is absoluttely horrible, fulcare is such a noob in understanding business models. No app exists that is innovative like gems

I just checked nxtty and didn't expect it to be this bad, nxtty coins are just shares you buy from a 'virtual nxt company' and hold where you get some kind of interest. it's just a pos coin + a poor messaging app with a bubbel game in it making it look cheap, you cant make transactions from the app either. Not even slightly comparable to gems

[fulcare]

I dont know why fulcare keeps repeating himself, nxtty is absoluttely horrible, fulcare is such a noob in understanding business models. No app exists that is innovative like gems

I just checked nxtty and didn't expect it to be this bad, nxtty coins are just shares you buy from a 'virtual nxt company' and hold where you get some kind of interest. it's just a pos coin + a poor messaging app with a bubbel game in it making it look cheap, you cant make transactions from the app either. Not even slightly comparable to gems

Fair enough people once they get on the hype train they can't work out their ass from their elbow but permission to say told you so when GEMS struggles to get past 10,000 users?

[peled1986]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

As long as you keep repeating that you expect FB and Whatstheapp like numbers I'll keep repeating you won't so people aren't tricked into thinking they just bought 10% of FB.

We never said that we expect FB and Whatsapp like numbers.
Please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9183382;topicseen#msg9183382

Dude you got their apps on your website as your target under the heading 'Value'  

And if you want to start defending your app, defend this. How do you expect an app to succeed these days where their are hundreds of chat apps with new ones coming everyday when you don't even have photo sharing! Cause photo sharing will be painfully slow?

The advantage is that we are building a social messaging app based on attention economy with a built in wallet. This allows anyone to have a public hashtag but the spam is still under control. This opens a lot of interesting use cases for users wanting your attention and are willing to pay you directly. (With LinkedIn you pay the company to send unsolicited messages to users. In Tinder you can’t send unsolicited messages to girls you like even if you wanted to. In Instagram you can’t get the celebrities attention because their hashtag is being “spammed”. In Gems you will be able to do all these things if you pay the right price in gems. The cost to send such an unsolicited
message is dependent on the relative popularity of the recipient using a bidding system commonly employed by Google.

We are in alpha development, we will have photo sharing and it will be super fast

[Netnox]

Gems can do big things, the concept shows that. I would like to know what the plans marketingswise are in promoting gems outside of the crypto community? Since the reach is common users 

[lordfeo]

I'm in,
Just the koinify.com does not load smoothly!  

[Coin-Moron]

Could someone brief about the Gem's cloud service?
Aren't things getting centralised in here?

[peled1986]

Could someone brief about the Gem's cloud service?
Aren't things getting centralized in here?

There are two main concerns with a centralized system.

The first concern is anonymity and privacy of Gems users. Centralized systems are more prone to be monitored by external entities - for example, a government agency with a warrant for access to our servers. This concern is actually not specific to centralized systems and a good security policy assumes that all traffic is always being monitored by external entities - even if the network is completely decentralized.

The Gems network operates under this assumption. Secure messages via Gems are encrypted client-client. This means that these messages cannot be monitored by anyone except the two members of the conversation. This includes anyone listening in on the traffic transmitted by the mobile devices and this even includes the server itself. In other words, this means that the servers cannot decrypt the content of these messages. In any case, the encrypted messages are only held by the server in the short time until delivery, so history of the entire (encrypted) conversation is never stored anywhere except on the mobile device itself.

The second concern is robustness of the network and the ability to freely and openly scale the network in the hands of third parties. In the Gems ecosystem, this means third parties will be able to add their own server nodes. Since server nodes can't access the content of secure messages, there is no security concern with adding nodes. This can roughly be compared to how third party routers in the Internet route your traffic to its destination.

The Gems message routing protocol is based on an open source framework (SignalR). It was designed to support multiple distributed nodes in order to support massive scale (a single server will never be able to support millions of users). We plan to open source the Gems message routing protocol and allow third parties to add new server nodes to the network. Mobile clients will be able to connect to these nodes and send messages through them just like with the original Gems servers.

[djm34]

don't you think it is time to change [PRE-ANN] into [ANN] ?

[peled1986]

don't you think it is time to change [PRE-ANN] into [ANN] ?

Done. Thanks for the reminder!

[fulcare]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

As long as you keep repeating that you expect FB and Whatstheapp like numbers I'll keep repeating you won't so people aren't tricked into thinking they just bought 10% of FB.

We never said that we expect FB and Whatsapp like numbers.
Please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9183382;topicseen#msg9183382

Dude you got their apps on your website as your target under the heading 'Value'  

And if you want to start defending your app, defend this. How do you expect an app to succeed these days where their are hundreds of chat apps with new ones coming everyday when you don't even have photo sharing! Cause photo sharing will be painfully slow?

The advantage is that we are building a social messaging app based on attention economy with a built in wallet. This allows anyone to have a public hashtag but the spam is still under control. This opens a lot of interesting use cases for users wanting your attention and are willing to pay you directly. (With LinkedIn you pay the company to send unsolicited messages to users. In Tinder you can’t send unsolicited messages to girls you like even if you wanted to. In Instagram you can’t get the celebrities attention because their hashtag is being “spammed”. In Gems you will be able to do all these things if you pay the right price in gems. The cost to send such an unsolicited
message is dependent on the relative popularity of the recipient using a bidding system commonly employed by Google.

We are in alpha development, we will have photo sharing and it will be super fast

While you boast others will post. bye bye...

Ok I'm going to be an asshole now and say Send chat looks a lot more professional and has the right spirit behind it, way more than Gems. Plus its built on Telegram, video messenging, photo sharing etc etc.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880647.0

[lordfeo]

Gems looks good on paper but so did NXTTY and that seems to of failed miserably. I expect hype followed by crash followed by sober realistic reevaluation. If this can be a niche product it's got a decent chance. The new big thing globally in social networks....not a hope in hell.

You are repeating yourself, again except from both being messaging apps they have nothing in common. Gems is based on attention economy: http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2014/12/gems-next-generation-social-app/

please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8594258#msg8594258
and: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9631930;topicseen#msg9631930

As long as you keep repeating that you expect FB and Whatstheapp like numbers I'll keep repeating you won't so people aren't tricked into thinking they just bought 10% of FB.

We never said that we expect FB and Whatsapp like numbers.
Please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9183382;topicseen#msg9183382

Dude you got their apps on your website as your target under the heading 'Value'  

And if you want to start defending your app, defend this. How do you expect an app to succeed these days where their are hundreds of chat apps with new ones coming everyday when you don't even have photo sharing! Cause photo sharing will be painfully slow?

The advantage is that we are building a social messaging app based on attention economy with a built in wallet. This allows anyone to have a public hashtag but the spam is still under control. This opens a lot of interesting use cases for users wanting your attention and are willing to pay you directly. (With LinkedIn you pay the company to send unsolicited messages to users. In Tinder you can’t send unsolicited messages to girls you like even if you wanted to. In Instagram you can’t get the celebrities attention because their hashtag is being “spammed”. In Gems you will be able to do all these things if you pay the right price in gems. The cost to send such an unsolicited
message is dependent on the relative popularity of the recipient using a bidding system commonly employed by Google.

We are in alpha development, we will have photo sharing and it will be super fast

While you boast others will post. bye bye...

Ok I'm going to be an asshole now and say Send chat looks a lot more professional and has the right spirit behind it, way more than Gems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880647.0

Better you leave when you don't understand what is difference between high quality product and a junky app.

[Gizfreak]

Ok I'm going to be an asshole now and say Send chat looks a lot more professional and has the right spirit behind it, way more than Gems. Plus its built on Telegram, video messenging, photo sharing etc etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880647.0

I know it's not done to promote another coin, but nevertheless I wanna thank you for pointing me out to that project.