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Something very important, don't know if the gems team has thought about it. Lets say i have never heard of crypto and use the gems app and i want to send unsolicitate messages. Where do i buy gemz in the first place? Considering the app is all about simplicity for the common user, shouldn't there be a buy gemz option in the app?
As I understand, every new user can get a few GEMS via “airdrop” giveaways. The user that invited you also have GEMS so you may ask him some. You can buy GEMS from any user with cash (or other way) exactly like Bitcoin when you trade in person. Nowadays, there are more and more possibilities to buy Bitcoin directly with a bank card so anyone able to make a purchase on Internet can afford Bitcoins & get GEMS. I think the starting point of GEM project was to make cryptocurrency mainstream. Fair enough but what if i want to buy more gemz than the user can offer me, or someone wants to spend a lot of gemz. There should be a simple buy gems button for users who want to buy it. I hope the devs make this process easy aswell then it will be gold, i'm purely talking from a newbie standpoint who even doesn't know what bitcoin is, which the common user pretty much is. I can imagine a direct buy button doing this : Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account. GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ... Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool.
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December 08, 2014, 12:02:18 AM Last edit: December 08, 2014, 12:51:57 AM by reRaise |
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nextgencoin
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December 08, 2014, 05:23:29 AM |
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Something very important, don't know if the gems team has thought about it. Lets say i have never heard of crypto and use the gems app and i want to send unsolicitate messages. Where do i buy gemz in the first place? Considering the app is all about simplicity for the common user, shouldn't there be a buy gemz option in the app?
As I understand, every new user can get a few GEMS via “airdrop” giveaways. The user that invited you also have GEMS so you may ask him some. You can buy GEMS from any user with cash (or other way) exactly like Bitcoin when you trade in person. Nowadays, there are more and more possibilities to buy Bitcoin directly with a bank card so anyone able to make a purchase on Internet can afford Bitcoins & get GEMS. I think the starting point of GEM project was to make cryptocurrency mainstream. Fair enough but what if i want to buy more gemz than the user can offer me, or someone wants to spend a lot of gemz. There should be a simple buy gems button for users who want to buy it. I hope the devs make this process easy aswell then it will be gold, i'm purely talking from a newbie standpoint who even doesn't know what bitcoin is, which the common user pretty much is. I can imagine a direct buy button doing this : Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account. GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ... Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool. Your thinking like a crypto head not an average new to Bitcoin user. A simple fiat to Gems Or BTC is all you need similar to how you buy credits on games for example. Trading should not go anywhere near the app and should be discouraged generally not even a simple swap BTC for GEMS ability. Then the focus needs to be on spending your gems and BTC and encouraging vendors to take GEMS as well as BTC. Once you start having advanced features even if they are hidden in a tab ruin the simple principle of user friendliness. The crypto community has been making this same mistake for a while now because what they see as simple really isn't for the average non technical person. An app to go mainstream needs to be stupidly easy to use, once people see how they can easily buy stuff by sending BTC or GEMS they will be hooked.
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December 08, 2014, 11:34:09 AM |
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Something very important, don't know if the gems team has thought about it. Lets say i have never heard of crypto and use the gems app and i want to send unsolicitate messages. Where do i buy gemz in the first place? Considering the app is all about simplicity for the common user, shouldn't there be a buy gemz option in the app?
As I understand, every new user can get a few GEMS via “airdrop” giveaways. The user that invited you also have GEMS so you may ask him some. You can buy GEMS from any user with cash (or other way) exactly like Bitcoin when you trade in person. Nowadays, there are more and more possibilities to buy Bitcoin directly with a bank card so anyone able to make a purchase on Internet can afford Bitcoins & get GEMS. I think the starting point of GEM project was to make cryptocurrency mainstream. Fair enough but what if i want to buy more gemz than the user can offer me, or someone wants to spend a lot of gemz. There should be a simple buy gems button for users who want to buy it. I hope the devs make this process easy aswell then it will be gold, i'm purely talking from a newbie standpoint who even doesn't know what bitcoin is, which the common user pretty much is. I can imagine a direct buy button doing this : Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account. GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ... Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool. Your thinking like a crypto head not an average new to Bitcoin user. A simple fiat to Gems Or BTC is all you need similar to how you buy credits on games for example. Trading should not go anywhere near the app and should be discouraged generally not even a simple swap BTC for GEMS ability. Then the focus needs to be on spending your gems and BTC and encouraging vendors to take GEMS as well as BTC. Once you start having advanced features even if they are hidden in a tab ruin the simple principle of user friendliness. The crypto community has been making this same mistake for a while now because what they see as simple really isn't for the average non technical person. An app to go mainstream needs to be stupidly easy to use, once people see how they can easily buy stuff by sending BTC or GEMS they will be hooked. Very much agree with your point
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December 08, 2014, 12:16:28 PM Last edit: December 09, 2014, 12:26:19 PM by superresistant |
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I can imagine a direct buy button doing this : Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account. GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ... Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool.
Your thinking like a crypto head not an average new to Bitcoin user. A simple fiat to Gems Or BTC is all you need similar to how you buy credits on games for example. Trading should not go anywhere near the app and should be discouraged generally not even a simple swap BTC for GEMS ability. Then the focus needs to be on spending your gems and BTC and encouraging vendors to take GEMS as well as BTC. Once you start having advanced features even if they are hidden in a tab ruin the simple principle of user friendliness. The crypto community has been making this same mistake for a while now because what they see as simple really isn't for the average non technical person. An app to go mainstream needs to be stupidly easy to use, once people see how they can easily buy stuff by sending BTC or GEMS they will be hooked. You are reacting to the *least important comment I made, just forget about it. No special feature in the app. I was talking about a "buy button" similar to every existing apps. The details are the technical explanation of the script behind the "buy button". I wasn't considering any second that the final user would see, imagine or understand anything that happen behind the "buy button". The GEMS exchange would not be known by the average Joe but it is needed to regulate the BTC/GEMS market price because cryptocurrency can only exist in a free-market. EDIT : *
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December 08, 2014, 05:54:47 PM |
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I don't actually use messenger apps so I don't know the current uses and trends in the West. But I live in Asia and two apps the devlopers should have a look at is LINE and KakaoTalk. Both have moved from simple chat apps to semi social media apps with a small gallery of photos and current status showing etc. Plus Kakoatalk has an offshoot to a more dveloped FB like site called Kakao Story. Long term I think GEMS has to be more than a bare bones messenging app.
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December 08, 2014, 08:11:16 PM Last edit: December 08, 2014, 08:41:54 PM by reRaise |
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I don't actually use messenger apps so I don't know the current uses and trends in the West. But I live in Asia and two apps the devlopers should have a look at is LINE and KakaoTalk. Both have moved from simple chat apps to semi social media apps with a small gallery of photos and current status showing etc. Plus Kakoatalk has an offshoot to a more dveloped FB like site called Kakao Story. Long term I think GEMS has to be more than a bare bones messenging app.
Did you listen to the podcast? its much more than a messaging app with the simplicity everyone is used to
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December 08, 2014, 08:38:28 PM |
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gliph is too much hassle and too different, i'm used to whatsapp and glyph is too different. he talks about artifacts, facets nobody gets that, combined with a bad chosen name and poor promotion. But what gems really makes superior is it's attention based economy model which glyph doesn't have and it also doesn't reward users.
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December 09, 2014, 01:53:28 AM |
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I don't actually use messenger apps so I don't know the current uses and trends in the West. But I live in Asia and two apps the devlopers should have a look at is LINE and KakaoTalk. Both have moved from simple chat apps to semi social media apps with a small gallery of photos and current status showing etc. Plus Kakoatalk has an offshoot to a more dveloped FB like site called Kakao Story. Long term I think GEMS has to be more than a bare bones messenging app.
Did you listen to the podcast? its much more than a messaging app with the simplicity everyone is used to Which one? There is at least two. I don't believe GEMS has the functions I mentioned YET.
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December 09, 2014, 05:36:16 AM |
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i got my coins and promoted this on my blog - now just waiting for launch
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December 09, 2014, 09:15:42 AM |
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I don't actually use messenger apps so I don't know the current uses and trends in the West. But I live in Asia and two apps the devlopers should have a look at is LINE and KakaoTalk. Both have moved from simple chat apps to semi social media apps with a small gallery of photos and current status showing etc. Plus Kakoatalk has an offshoot to a more dveloped FB like site called Kakao Story. Long term I think GEMS has to be more than a bare bones messenging app.
Did you listen to the podcast? its much more than a messaging app with the simplicity everyone is used to Which one? There is at least two. This is the latest one http://shoutengine.com/BitcoinNewsWeekly/dollars-to-bitcoins-banks-hate-bitcoin-the-gold-5231
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December 09, 2014, 12:04:17 PM |
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I can imagine a direct buy button doing this : Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account. GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ... Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool.
Your thinking like a crypto head not an average new to Bitcoin user. A simple fiat to Gems Or BTC is all you need similar to how you buy credits on games for example. Trading should not go anywhere near the app and should be discouraged generally not even a simple swap BTC for GEMS ability. Then the focus needs to be on spending your gems and BTC and encouraging vendors to take GEMS as well as BTC. Once you start having advanced features even if they are hidden in a tab ruin the simple principle of user friendliness. The crypto community has been making this same mistake for a while now because what they see as simple really isn't for the average non technical person. An app to go mainstream needs to be stupidly easy to use, once people see how they can easily buy stuff by sending BTC or GEMS they will be hooked. You are reacting to the important comment I made, just forget about it. No special feature in the app. I was talking about a "buy button" similar to every existing apps. The details are the technical explanation of the script behind the "buy button". I wasn't considering any second that the final user would see, imagine or understand anything that happen behind the "buy button". The GEMS exchange would not be known by the average Joe but it is needed to regulate the BTC/GEMS market price because cryptocurrency can only exist in a free-market. I am inclined to agree with your last point wholeheartedly.
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December 09, 2014, 03:02:52 PM |
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Hi
where can I find how my refferal works?
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December 09, 2014, 05:47:09 PM |
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Over 25 million GEMZ sold! Nice work marketing team!
Peled and the team you have run a very solid campaign. I hope this means your team will be as efficient getting the app to the masses! You had a lot of money betting against you could not break 1500. I would expect to see some of that capital coming into the sale now.
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December 09, 2014, 05:58:47 PM |
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Over 25 million GEMZ sold! Nice work marketing team!
Peled and the team you have run a very solid campaign. I hope this means your team will be as efficient getting the app to the masses! You had a lot of money betting against you could not break 1500. I would expect to see some of that capital coming into the sale now.
I doubt they will sell the other 25m unless of course the inevitable self buying from the Developerscomes and the early dump. Anyone buying now has to understand their will likely be an early dump around this price. It's the easiest way to make money, buy at cheapest early level in an IPO then dump to later price floors that later buyers bought in on. This is a generic problem with IPOs not GEMS fault. What I really take issue with this IPO is this was susposed to be about price discovery but it goes on for 45 days! You could sell almost any coin over a long enough period, doesn't mean that the natural price. I don't like IPO's but at least they usually keep them down to a week or so. For real price discovery this IPO of should already be finished but no one in GEMS is going to want to lose their precious BTC for some thing like genuine price discovery. If Koinify think this has raised the quality of IPO's may I suggest they stop smoking so many Canabis coins. It's a money grab, plain and simple.
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December 09, 2014, 06:36:51 PM Last edit: December 09, 2014, 11:11:49 PM by Netnox |
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Impressed on how things are going so far, the app is revolutionary enough to be successful. It all comes down to marketing, the Gems team has done pretty well and i hope apart from community support they get themselves some tight connections (which seems they have the ability), partnerships and aiming to get mainstream coverage. This concept is very consumer friendly so it's easier to promote and understand for the common person
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December 09, 2014, 11:17:25 PM |
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I can imagine a direct buy button doing this : Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> BTC on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or Credit Card --> FIAT on exchange --> GEMS on exchange --> GEMS credited to user or simply a fixed rate by the company that will always be more expensive than the real market The final user would only see the current FIAT/GEMS price, pay with credit card and get his GEMS on his account. GEMS would need an exchange doing different pairs : FIAT/BTC, FIAT GEMS, BTC/GEMS, ... Maybe an advanced feature inside the app for traders ? Not needed but it would be cool.
Your thinking like a crypto head not an average new to Bitcoin user. A simple fiat to Gems Or BTC is all you need similar to how you buy credits on games for example. Trading should not go anywhere near the app and should be discouraged generally not even a simple swap BTC for GEMS ability. Then the focus needs to be on spending your gems and BTC and encouraging vendors to take GEMS as well as BTC. Once you start having advanced features even if they are hidden in a tab ruin the simple principle of user friendliness. The crypto community has been making this same mistake for a while now because what they see as simple really isn't for the average non technical person. An app to go mainstream needs to be stupidly easy to use, once people see how they can easily buy stuff by sending BTC or GEMS they will be hooked. You are reacting to the important comment I made, just forget about it. No special feature in the app. I was talking about a "buy button" similar to every existing apps. The details are the technical explanation of the script behind the "buy button". I wasn't considering any second that the final user would see, imagine or understand anything that happen behind the "buy button". The GEMS exchange would not be known by the average Joe but it is needed to regulate the BTC/GEMS market price because cryptocurrency can only exist in a free-market. I am inclined to agree with your last point wholeheartedly. We agree that the direct buy button should be as simple as possible from the user point of view.
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December 09, 2014, 11:27:11 PM |
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Over 25 million GEMZ sold! Nice work marketing team!
Peled and the team you have run a very solid campaign. I hope this means your team will be as efficient getting the app to the masses! You had a lot of money betting against you could not break 1500. I would expect to see some of that capital coming into the sale now.
We have come a long way and today's announcement of breaking the 1500 btc goal is a major milestone. We could not have done it without all of you. coinbrief: "Currently Social Media is anything but our’s. There is a saying “if a product is free you are the product” and this is now the case with Social Media": http://coinbrief.net/gems-bringing-crypto-to-everyone/Impressed on how things are going so far, the app is revolutionary enough to be successful. It all comes down to marketing, the Gems team has done pretty well and i hope apart from community support they get themselves some tight connections (which seems they have the ability), partnerships and aiming to get mainstream coverage. This concept is very consumer friendly so it's easier to promote and understand for the common person
Good news will be coming out today!
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December 10, 2014, 01:11:56 AM |
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Gems will be available in iTunes December 30th. It will be available for Android by May. To make it an even playing field referral rewards will not start until both apps are released. If the airdrops start with the Android release in May, what happens if you sign someone up before May? Would it be best to wait until May to add your friends in order to collect a portion of the airdrops? I don't recall this being covered. Congratulations on over 25 million GEMZ sold. I'm watching Gems with great anticipation!
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