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Indeed. Way too soon to be throwing accusations of FRAUD around. Please everyone take a deep breath and let this move forward instead of backward and sideways. 1. The premine is missing and APPEARS to have been sold. No proof yet, but strong suspicion. 2. Troll is in absentia and incommunicado, Xircom and Robbert are reportedly resigning - I am waiting for confirmation directly from them. Sorry I'm a bit late to the recent party but to clarify can we safely say that:
1) The pre-mine has all been sold off? (Hence the sell walls for the past month).
2) The devs are all now strangely deciding to disappear soon afterwards?
Or is it something completely unrelated?
"IF" this turns out to be an elaborate scam of some kind, I'm all for following up with some kind of court action over fraud. Not accusing yet, but people aren't doing much to allay suspicions. True, it just passed my mind since this has all come as a shock to me. Maybe the devs just lost their way and gave up. Bitcoin Operated Boy seems like a trustworthy replacement in the meantime. |
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November 21, 2014, 12:16:42 AM |
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Cool, I'm happy to be an extra Signer then... May be a bit tricky if one of us passes away though hahaha
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vicvelcro
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November 21, 2014, 12:21:26 AM |
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Well, with Armory, there are several possibilities. I'm thinking a 5 or 7 sig wallet with 3/5 or 4/7 sigs to authorize EACH outbound transfer. So, 5 Signer slots, 2 nominations (you and aleckloss), leaves at least 3 slots still open. Nominee List Updated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760143.msg9607485#msg9607485Cool, I'm happy to be an extra Signer then... May be a bit tricky if one of us passes away though hahaha
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I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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November 21, 2014, 12:40:02 AM |
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The new team looks very good so far. Vicvelcro, Ghost and Bitcoin Boy have all been consistently helpful and appear sensible and honest people who consider other peoples situations well.
I also like Litecoindark's comment about helping to move forward with the new devs.
It seems things just unfortunately fell apart with the old team. Not all failures are scams.
On the bright side the new team could bring the price back up sharply with their honest ambition. That's a rare commodity in crypto for one person to have let alone 3 or 4.
Can anyone shed light on how to approach the 2 Gen situation? E.g how will the loss of that be accounted for with the new look? Just ideas for now.
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November 21, 2014, 12:46:17 AM |
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People need to review this. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=760143.msg9607485#msg9607485And then start speaking up. We need more nominations before we can call a vote. Because of the expediency needed to get SOMETHING in place, I'm thinking that if we can't call a vote in 24 hours - current devs should be asked to SELECT the interim committee. Right now, that would be Robbert, Xircom, and TrollbyFire. TrollbyFire has been absent - which likely leaves it to Robbert and Xircom. Then the interim appointees could still proceed, allowing a larger window of time to get some permanency in place. However, that puts a very heavy load on the interim appointees. |
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November 21, 2014, 12:53:04 AM |
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I am sure we all appreciate your vote of confidence and your moral support. Thank you. The new team looks very good so far. Vicvelcro, Ghost and Bitcoin Boy have all been consistently helpful and appear sensible and honest people who consider other peoples situations well.
Indeed. This would be much more of a problem if he were in opposition - maybe even impossible. So thanks to Litecoindark too. I also like Litecoindark's comment about helping to move forward with the new devs. Can't exactly deal the the Gen 2 problem with everything in disarray. Future Gen 2 still looks viable to me, but the recent shake-up sets that back quite a bit (just my guess). So, it will probably depend on how motivated the new crew is regarding Gen 2 and the productivity of whoever does the coding. Can anyone shed light on how to approach the 2 Gen situation? E.g how will the loss of that be accounted for with the new look? Just ideas for now.
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November 21, 2014, 02:30:28 AM |
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My support to the new team as well!!!
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November 21, 2014, 04:03:13 AM |
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My support to the new team as well!!!
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November 21, 2014, 04:56:21 AM |
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Given that Robbert is stepping back I would like to nominate Vic Velcro as interim committee chairman... He has great organization skills and leadership skills and that's what we need the most right now... Is everyone okay with this?
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November 21, 2014, 04:56:27 AM |
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well nasa didn't get to the moon buy giving up so we shall not either. For I want to go to the moon we just need a better rocket  Now on to the building stage. |
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November 21, 2014, 04:57:59 AM |
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Given that Robbert is stepping back I would like to nominate Vic Velcro as interim committee chairman... He has great organization skills and leadership skills and that's what we need the most right now... Is everyone okay with this?
I Second that for Vic |
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November 21, 2014, 05:09:31 AM |
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I usually keep silent, as I am not very experienced in crypto and I dont have a lot of the skills needed to add to the everyday discussions.
But if i may, I would like to commend this community for its attitude and posture in moving forward. I am so impressed with BTC operated boy, Ghost, Vic, Alec... (sorry if I missed someone). You could have abandoned the coin long ago and you have stuck with it and in some way I am looking forward to the future of LTCD more so now with you leading the way. I know we can't get the cart before the hoarse, but you all have proven in your own ways that you are positive capable leaders. I thank you for your efforts!!!
I wish I could do more to help, but unfortunately I do not provide the skills necessary to be of much help in crypto. I do hold approx 180k and have held strong from week 1. I will do what I can to support your efforts... even if only encouraging words from time to time!
Good work Gentleman!
... and lets all be saying a prayer for Troll. If its family issues, my hope is things can get worked out, as family is so much more important than this!
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November 21, 2014, 05:19:10 AM |
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Well said, in all respects. Yes, anyone here so inclined should remember to include TrollbyFire in their prayers. I usually keep silent, as I am not very experienced in crypto and I dont have a lot of the skills needed to add to the everyday discussions.
But if i may, I would like to commend this community for its attitude and posture in moving forward. I am so impressed with BTC operated boy, Ghost, Vic, Alec... (sorry if I missed someone). You could have abandoned the coin long ago and you have stuck with it and in some way I am looking forward to the future of LTCD more so now with you leading the way. I know we can't get the cart before the hoarse, but you all have proven in your own ways that you are positive capable leaders. I thank you for your efforts!!!
I wish I could do more to help, but unfortunately I do not provide the skills necessary to be of much help in crypto. I do hold approx 180k and have held strong from week 1. I will do what I can to support your efforts... even if only encouraging words from time to time!
Good work Gentleman!
... and lets all be saying a prayer for Troll. If its family issues, my hope is things can get worked out, as family is so much more important than this!
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November 21, 2014, 05:21:16 AM |
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I would recommend connecting with Fibre Devs.
I dont know for sure if they would be willing to help, but they do a top notch job with that coin and seem like they would be the type to help another coin out.
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November 21, 2014, 05:23:29 AM |
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Well said, in all respects. Yes, anyone here so inclined should remember to include TrollbyFire in their prayers. I usually keep silent, as I am not very experienced in crypto and I dont have a lot of the skills needed to add to the everyday discussions.
But if i may, I would like to commend this community for its attitude and posture in moving forward. I am so impressed with BTC operated boy, Ghost, Vic, Alec... (sorry if I missed someone). You could have abandoned the coin long ago and you have stuck with it and in some way I am looking forward to the future of LTCD more so now with you leading the way. I know we can't get the cart before the hoarse, but you all have proven in your own ways that you are positive capable leaders. I thank you for your efforts!!!
I wish I could do more to help, but unfortunately I do not provide the skills necessary to be of much help in crypto. I do hold approx 180k and have held strong from week 1. I will do what I can to support your efforts... even if only encouraging words from time to time!
Good work Gentleman!
... and lets all be saying a prayer for Troll. If its family issues, my hope is things can get worked out, as family is so much more important than this!
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November 21, 2014, 06:09:04 AM |
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I'm also very lucky I didn't lose my cool and held my 100K . But still, especially the big future is unsure, 2nd gen. We'll see how it plays out, alot of communities would have bailed by now. This cn still grow to be very big, let us all make sure that it does!! I also lack computer skills needed 4 crypto, but I wish to donate some time by proof reading, and maybe even translate to Dutch if needed, write me down for that  I'm also building an extensive twitter account, allready a lot of exposure, ones it's finished I will promote LTCD among others Furio |
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November 21, 2014, 07:51:48 AM |
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I would like to assure you that all of the helpful posts are being read and that I personally am taking notes about the good stuff. The lack of reply is not intended to seem like nobody cares.
We have a bigger issue to get resolved as immediately as possible.
As soon as new leadership is implemented, I will bring attention to the recent helpful posts. Nothing is being overlooked and all of it will be reviewed again - hopefully soon.
It sucks, I know. But it is what it is. Just hang tight for not much longer.
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November 21, 2014, 07:56:54 AM |
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I would like to assure you that all of the helpful posts are being read and that I personally am taking notes about the good stuff. The lack of reply is not intended to seem like nobody cares.
We have a bigger issue to get resolved as immediately as possible.
As soon as new leadership is implemented, I will bring attention to the recent helpful posts. Nothing is being overlooked and all of it will be reviewed again - hopefully soon.
It sucks, I know. But it is what it is. Just hang tight for not much longer.
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