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A player doesn't have a "right" for their betting history ? What type of world do you live in, you can ask for it, they can share it but in no manner it is a "right". Do you know what a right is ? "Having rights" are usually either imposed with a law (have the right to carry a gun, having a right to vote etc etc) and those are "rights" for a person (changes from country to country and from law to law), in no way or shape anyone has a "right" to know their betting history, it makes no sense.
It is a privilege that if you ask for your betting history they would share anything more than your latest bet, its common sense that they share at least 2000 of them because they want to be competitive and do not want you to go to another website, but if they were to deny you to get even the last 50 bets they could if they wanted to, they just expand that to 2000 to keep you there that is all.
Having a "right" to get all of your betting history should be in the law in order to be a "right" and I bet there is absolutely NO laws requiring casinos to share that information at all. Do not mistake "moral rights" with having a right, it is your own moral compass that suggest "it should be available because its the right thing to do" and even if you are correct that doesn't make it a right, it just makes it a decent thing to do.
What are you trying to say exactly? Are saying that FJ d not have our history data if we ask them to give us? And btw what is the used of these datas if you already past most of the bets that you made? I am sure they are willing to give it to you and evem if they do not give it, there is history about your last bet on the site so you can go there and check whether the site is provably fair or not. No need to ask for more data to prove that they are right
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March 03, 2019, 11:42:33 AM |
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Withdrawal seems to be delayed, it is a bit strange imho because my current (2 withdrawals) is less(not even a half) than what I made few days back. I use the same address as usual but it needs security check? OK hopefully it wont be that long to wait as I'm going to request one more withdrawal from my sports betting winning.
I don't think you should worry too much like this. FortuneJack, as we all known, are one of the biggest, most reliable online casinos. The FortuneJack casino has been here, in crypto, in online gambling industry for years. They have high trust.
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Hello, this is my first post on bitcointalk.org so sorry If I do anything wrong. I am here to report the massive scam fortunejack can be, over the last 3 days I have been trying to get money back from a bet which I won, but was somehow canceled and refunded. I will make it clear, I have done a bet on lightning roulette, the bet was accepted, the number rolled and it hit one of my numbers, after hitting this number I get a message on the screen saying my bet was not made in time, and I didnt get my winnings. Contacting costumer support on www.fortunejack.com made me sick since they have preset replys and you will get mad over it, I have sent over 10 tickets some of them somehow got closed without even a reply and closed in a bunch of minutes. FortuneJack itself admitted not to know the reason why my bet was canceled and refunded, and kept ignoring me. Adding to this I have proof of everything I just said here, and I imagine that it must have been recorded somewhere the lightning roulette session or even recorded by fortunejack itself, many people where having this issue on the time frame I got mine. And now the final thing, I did not got this error only once, but twice, I got it once and I contacted live support and while talking with live support it happened again and still they couldnt do anything about it has they say they dont find anything wrong with my bets. Please pay back what you owe me, we are real people risking our real money, casinos are so quick taking our money but cant solve simple issues
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March 03, 2019, 02:49:21 PM |
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Withdrawal seems to be delayed, it is a bit strange imho because my current (2 withdrawals) is less(not even a half) than what I made few days back. I use the same address as usual but it needs security check? OK hopefully it wont be that long to wait as I'm going to request one more withdrawal from my sports betting winning.
I don't think you should worry too much like this. FortuneJack, as we all known, are one of the biggest, most reliable online casinos. The FortuneJack casino has been here, in crypto, in online gambling industry for years. They have high trust. I was not worrying it too much as I have no reasons to worry about withdrawals in fortunejack as I have never experienced any significant issues. Just wondering why my withdrawals needs security check while I did not use new address, as per my experience is that security check is done when I change withdrawal address only. So it is a bit strange for me. Anyway I received my all withdrawals after some hours.
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March 03, 2019, 03:28:15 PM |
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Hello, this is my first post on bitcointalk.org so sorry If I do anything wrong. I am here to report the massive scam fortunejack can be, over the last 3 days I have been trying to get money back from a bet which I won, but was somehow canceled and refunded. I will make it clear, I have done a bet on lightning roulette, the bet was accepted, the number rolled and it hit one of my numbers, after hitting this number I get a message on the screen saying my bet was not made in time, and I didnt get my winnings. Contacting costumer support on www.fortunejack.com made me sick since they have preset replys and you will get mad over it, I have sent over 10 tickets some of them somehow got closed without even a reply and closed in a bunch of minutes. FortuneJack itself admitted not to know the reason why my bet was canceled and refunded, and kept ignoring me. Adding to this I have proof of everything I just said here, and I imagine that it must have been recorded somewhere the lightning roulette session or even recorded by fortunejack itself, many people where having this issue on the time frame I got mine. And now the final thing, I did not got this error only once, but twice, I got it once and I contacted live support and while talking with live support it happened again and still they couldnt do anything about it has they say they dont find anything wrong with my bets. Please pay back what you owe me, we are real people risking our real money, casinos are so quick taking our money but cant solve simple issues Please create a topic in the Scam Accusations section and provide evidence. Making claims without showing any form of proof will not be taken seriously.
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March 03, 2019, 03:49:23 PM |
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Hello, this is my first post on bitcointalk.org so sorry If I do anything wrong. I am here to report the massive scam fortunejack can be, over the last 3 days I have been trying to get money back from a bet which I won, but was somehow canceled and refunded. I will make it clear, I have done a bet on lightning roulette, the bet was accepted, the number rolled and it hit one of my numbers, after hitting this number I get a message on the screen saying my bet was not made in time, and I didnt get my winnings. Contacting costumer support on www.fortunejack.com made me sick since they have preset replys and you will get mad over it, I have sent over 10 tickets some of them somehow got closed without even a reply and closed in a bunch of minutes. FortuneJack itself admitted not to know the reason why my bet was canceled and refunded, and kept ignoring me. Adding to this I have proof of everything I just said here, and I imagine that it must have been recorded somewhere the lightning roulette session or even recorded by fortunejack itself, many people where having this issue on the time frame I got mine. And now the final thing, I did not got this error only once, but twice, I got it once and I contacted live support and while talking with live support it happened again and still they couldnt do anything about it has they say they dont find anything wrong with my bets. Please pay back what you owe me, we are real people risking our real money, casinos are so quick taking our money but cant solve simple issues Please create a topic in the Scam Accusations section and provide evidence. Making claims without showing any form of proof will not be taken seriously. How do I provide pictures in here? I have screenshots as proof
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March 03, 2019, 04:43:56 PM |
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Hello, this is my first post on bitcointalk.org so sorry If I do anything wrong. I am here to report the massive scam fortunejack can be, over the last 3 days I have been trying to get money back from a bet which I won, but was somehow canceled and refunded. I will make it clear, I have done a bet on lightning roulette, the bet was accepted, the number rolled and it hit one of my numbers, after hitting this number I get a message on the screen saying my bet was not made in time, and I didnt get my winnings. Contacting costumer support on www.fortunejack.com made me sick since they have preset replys and you will get mad over it, I have sent over 10 tickets some of them somehow got closed without even a reply and closed in a bunch of minutes. FortuneJack itself admitted not to know the reason why my bet was canceled and refunded, and kept ignoring me. Adding to this I have proof of everything I just said here, and I imagine that it must have been recorded somewhere the lightning roulette session or even recorded by fortunejack itself, many people where having this issue on the time frame I got mine. And now the final thing, I did not got this error only once, but twice, I got it once and I contacted live support and while talking with live support it happened again and still they couldnt do anything about it has they say they dont find anything wrong with my bets. Please pay back what you owe me, we are real people risking our real money, casinos are so quick taking our money but cant solve simple issues Please create a topic in the Scam Accusations section and provide evidence. Making claims without showing any form of proof will not be taken seriously. Evidence, proofs? Ahaha Man, you are not the one who should ask that. To all: this scammer makes scam accusations with no reliable evidence, but when it comes to the casino that he promotes hard here and there, he instantly tells people that there should be reliable evidence. This two-faced scammer doesn't deserve any trust and his boosted reputation.
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March 03, 2019, 05:13:02 PM |
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Hello, this is my first post on bitcointalk.org so sorry If I do anything wrong. I am here to report the massive scam fortunejack can be, over the last 3 days I have been trying to get money back from a bet which I won, but was somehow canceled and refunded. I will make it clear, I have done a bet on lightning roulette, the bet was accepted, the number rolled and it hit one of my numbers, after hitting this number I get a message on the screen saying my bet was not made in time, and I didnt get my winnings. Contacting costumer support on www.fortunejack.com made me sick since they have preset replys and you will get mad over it, I have sent over 10 tickets some of them somehow got closed without even a reply and closed in a bunch of minutes. FortuneJack itself admitted not to know the reason why my bet was canceled and refunded, and kept ignoring me. Adding to this I have proof of everything I just said here, and I imagine that it must have been recorded somewhere the lightning roulette session or even recorded by fortunejack itself, many people where having this issue on the time frame I got mine. And now the final thing, I did not got this error only once, but twice, I got it once and I contacted live support and while talking with live support it happened again and still they couldnt do anything about it has they say they dont find anything wrong with my bets. Please pay back what you owe me, we are real people risking our real money, casinos are so quick taking our money but cant solve simple issues Please create a topic in the Scam Accusations section and provide evidence. Making claims without showing any form of proof will not be taken seriously. Evidence, proofs? Ahaha Man, you are not the one who should ask that. To all: this scammer makes scam accusations with no reliable evidence, but when it comes to the casino that he promotes hard here and there, he instantly tells people that there should be reliable evidence. This two-faced scammer doesn't deserve any trust and his boosted reputation. Thanks for the support man I feel you so much
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March 03, 2019, 05:52:16 PM Last edit: March 03, 2019, 07:37:05 PM by Bitinity |
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How do I provide pictures in here? I have screenshots as proof
You can use imgur.com or any other similar services. Since you are newbie then your uploaded image will not shown, so you can only upload the link of the image unless someone with higher ranks quotes your post. I haven't played dice for some time and I noticed nice jackpot, I wonder if any rules changed and does this bet qualifies for jackpot: IIRC first number was highlighted, did they change this or? The rules for the jackpot stays the same except for Wednesday as players has better chance to win because it is reduced to 1x.xx - 7x.xx only unlike the other days which we have to roll 1x.xx to 8x.xx The highlight for the first number removed since they updated the site last year IIRC. It is indeed unfortunate, as it was really fun with the highlighted first number.
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March 03, 2019, 07:07:41 PM |
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I haven't played dice for some time and I noticed nice jackpot, I wonder if any rules changed and does this bet qualifies for jackpot: IIRC first number was highlighted, did they change this or?
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Just login to fill the CL score prediction but so surprise to see my balance, it was zero balance on my last visit but now I have 6mbtc. Checking the inbox, there is only one message "your balance has been updated" but no details on where this balance come from?
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March 04, 2019, 08:45:09 PM |
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Just login to fill the CL score prediction but so surprise to see my balance, it was zero balance on my last visit but now I have 6mbtc. Checking the inbox, there is only one message "your balance has been updated" but no details on where this balance come from?
Hey, free money! Be happy and use it wisely . I've been getting a few 5mBTC free bets on their sportsbook but never just had my balance updated.
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I have a question regarding the JACKMATE competition. Do we have to submit our predictions for all four matches at once? Do we have to submit the matches that will be played on Wednesday together with our predictions for the matches for Tuesday?
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March 04, 2019, 10:08:46 PM |
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Just login to fill the CL score prediction but so surprise to see my balance, it was zero balance on my last visit but now I have 6mbtc. Checking the inbox, there is only one message "your balance has been updated" but no details on where this balance come from?
Hey, free money! Be happy and use it wisely . I've been getting a few 5mBTC free bets on their sportsbook but never just had my balance updated. Spent few for the Champions League matches and lost the rest on plinko game LOL Yeah it is free money but just curious how could I get it as there is no promotion that I participated on. I have a question regarding the JACKMATE competition. Do we have to submit our predictions for all four matches at once? Do we have to submit the matches that will be played on Wednesday together with our predictions for the matches for Tuesday?
I always put all my prediction at once, not really sure if we can fill the prediction separately but maybe you can try it first. Fill the the matches for tomorrow then back to fill the other matches after the 2 matches ended. I think it wont be a big problem, probably Hhampuz knows about it better.
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March 04, 2019, 10:11:35 PM |
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I have a question regarding the JACKMATE competition. Do we have to submit our predictions for all four matches at once? Do we have to submit the matches that will be played on Wednesday together with our predictions for the matches for Tuesday?
I always put all my prediction at once, not really sure if we can fill the prediction separately but maybe you can try it first. Fill the the matches for tomorrow then back to fill the other matches after the 2 matches ended. I think it wont be a big problem, probably Hhampuz knows about it better. I've only filled out all of my predictions at the same time so I'm not sure. I'll ask David about it in discord and see what he says .
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It is really hard to believe that FortuneJack is a scam one. The site has long history, and this casino is one of the biggest, and most reliable online casinos for years. As malboroza stated in the topic you posted above, please wait for official answer from FortuneJack. I tried to tell ya'll but you won't listen. I have been gambling online since 1997 when it first started. I know what im talking about. FJ is a rogue casino...
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What are you trying to say exactly? Are saying that FJ d not have our history data if we ask them to give us? And btw what is the used of these datas if you already past most of the bets that you made? I am sure they are willing to give it to you and evem if they do not give it, there is history about your last bet on the site so you can go there and check whether the site is provably fair or not. No need to ask for more data to prove that they are right
No, I totally think fortunejack is legit, I was responding to someone who said every player has a right to get all the bets they made. I simply stated they do not have a "right" for it, if fortunejack wants to share that info than they can, if they want to give you just the last 2000 they can, if they only let you see your latest one and nothing further back than they can. It is not a law to give players all the bets they made, it is there because fortunejack allow it to be there, which basically means fortunejack is a decent place that shares info that you might need without them being forced to do so, they are doing it out of their kindness and everyone should appreciate it. People who defend gamblers and ALWAYS go against casinos no matter how trustworthy or legit a casino is make me question their common sense, yes there are casinos who are scamming people but just because there are those kinds of casinos do not think there is no legit casino out there neither, fortunejack is a legit one and I would defend it until proven wrong.
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What are you trying to say exactly? Are saying that FJ d not have our history data if we ask them to give us? And btw what is the used of these datas if you already past most of the bets that you made? I am sure they are willing to give it to you and evem if they do not give it, there is history about your last bet on the site so you can go there and check whether the site is provably fair or not. No need to ask for more data to prove that they are right
No, I totally think fortunejack is legit, I was responding to someone who said every player has a right to get all the bets they made. I simply stated they do not have a "right" for it, if fortunejack wants to share that info than they can, if they want to give you just the last 2000 they can, if they only let you see your latest one and nothing further back than they can. It is not a law to give players all the bets they made, it is there because fortunejack allow it to be there, which basically means fortunejack is a decent place that shares info that you might need without them being forced to do so, they are doing it out of their kindness and everyone should appreciate it. People who defend gamblers and ALWAYS go against casinos no matter how trustworthy or legit a casino is make me question their common sense, yes there are casinos who are scamming people but just because there are those kinds of casinos do not think there is no legit casino out there neither, fortunejack is a legit one and I would defend it until proven wrong. Did you check the thread? If no, then check it, if yes, then you are probably their shill. Here is one more link explaining what kind of "license" they have: https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/
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On other words you are saying that all casinos in this bitcoin gambling industry is not legit or scam, arent you? Look at the list, and you'll see most all popular and trusted bitcoin gambling sites are listed as "curacao license scam". Sorry I'm not focusing on the accusation against FJ, since you are linking it to above link then you are connecting to all bitcoin gambling sites. Are you shilling for game protect?
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