[ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh)

[nickgogerty]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

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[y_virtual]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Please sign me up for testing.
Thank you!

[corather]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

As long as the old blockchain can be accessed via the new wallet there should be no issue. I'm sure that's possible, a sort of "soft" fork.

Keep things simple. Please.

[mazzaneo]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Sign me up for testing, just let me know what to do.
Thanks

[Epiphany]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Excellent news. 

[LuckyKey]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Does this mean the CCN folks are not doing the POSV coding? If not, who is doing the coding? What code base will be used? Do they have experience doing this type of blockchain conversion? Will the source be public? What other decisions have been made?

[nickgogerty]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Does this mean the CCN folks are not doing the POSV coding? If not, who is doing the coding? What code base will be used? Do they have experience doing this type of blockchain conversion? Will the source be public? What other decisions have been made?

+1

We are working out the details. The code may be based on Noblecoin.  Again we want POSV as the intention is then to contact more solar industry journalists etc. and accelerate grants.  that being said, we want to make sure that PSOV is implement safely so please be patient. If it comes to a trade off of quality & security versus time, it may take more time. 

[vipgelsi]

Sounds good take all the time you need.

[corather]

Have you given some thought to adding a premium onto grant payouts adding extra Solarcoin from donations? Is this something that can be easily implemented?

[seerhaad]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Does this mean the CCN folks are not doing the POSV coding? If not, who is doing the coding? What code base will be used? Do they have experience doing this type of blockchain conversion? Will the source be public? What other decisions have been made?

+1

We are working out the details. The code may be based on Noblecoin.  Again we want POSV as the intention is then to contact more solar industry journalists etc. and accelerate grants.  that being said, we want to make sure that PSOV is implement safely so please be patient. If it comes to a trade off of quality & security versus time, it may take more time. 

Hi Nick,

I think, time is not a problem for Solarcoin investors 

We are not daily coin traders. Solarcoin is the only altcoin has a real purpose and plan. There are dozens of scammers and dishonest people around. So you can continue as you like, we will support you 

[lfloorwalker]

Hi all,

We've added the "SolarCoin Balance" tab onto each users login.
This is like the users "wallet".
Solcrypto interfaces with the SCF to process claims for real world SolarCoin mining from PV plants, houses and commercial rooftop.
If you want more information, please check out the twitter feed.

We would like the community's feedback on the POS staking policy for Solcrypto. Then after submissions we will add it to the sites TAC.

All coins are held offline with a clear two human sheild offline security policy.

Our aim is to grow the real world SolarCoin community. We will exhibit at PV shows and events in 2015 to raise awareness in the Asia Pacific Region.

Thanking you,
Best,
lfloorwalker
www.solcrypto.com

[LuckyKey]

Hi all,

We've added the "SolarCoin Balance" tab onto each users login.
This is like the users "wallet".
Solcrypto interfaces with the SCF to process claims for real world SolarCoin mining from PV plants, houses and commercial rooftop.
If you want more information, please check out the twitter feed.

We would like the community's feedback on the POS staking policy for Solcrypto. Then after submissions we will add it to the sites TAC.

All coins are held offline with a clear two human sheild offline security policy.

Our aim is to grow the real world SolarCoin community. We will exhibit at PV shows and events in 2015 to raise awareness in the Asia Pacific Region.

Thanking you,
Best,
lfloorwalker
www.solcrypto.com

Nice!   

[CryptoNick]

Ok, so we have a new dev on the scene for POSv.  Here is the proposal. I am curious what people's feedback is in terms of technical risk and implementation.  Once this looks good we will execute ASAP.  Also would be happy for people to sign up for testing.

Here is the new dev's proposal:

1. We will use new blockchain. Current one will not be used after migration to POSV anymore. The new one will keep all the balances from an old one. Question: do you also want to re-send transactions with messages which were on old blockchain? This is doable however complicates things.

2. Such setup gives us several bonuses:
- freedom to perform tests for a week or two so people will be able to download new POSV wallets and check if their money is still there.
- we will check if messaging works
- and check how staking works
- you will also have shorter blockchain which speeds up future client installations

3. After tests are finished we will let external parties (exchanges, pools etc) know they need to proceed with wallet update.

Does this mean the CCN folks are not doing the POSV coding? If not, who is doing the coding? What code base will be used? Do they have experience doing this type of blockchain conversion? Will the source be public? What other decisions have been made?

+1

We are working out the details. The code may be based on Noblecoin.  Again we want POSV as the intention is then to contact more solar industry journalists etc. and accelerate grants.  that being said, we want to make sure that PSOV is implement safely so please be patient. If it comes to a trade off of quality & security versus time, it may take more time. 

Hi Nick,

I think, time is not a problem for Solarcoin investors 

We are not daily coin traders. Solarcoin is the only altcoin has a real purpose and plan. There are dozens of scammers and dishonest people around. So you can continue as you like, we will support you 

SolarCoin is subjected to daily traders there is nothing you can do about it. When the coin is sold out to BitCoin that amount of BitCoin may never return... Repeat this over and over again and watch the graph continue gradually downward. Only those risking to buy in lower will have their money taken again. It doesn't have to be a scam to lose money, it is just the nature of Exchanges and Profiteers.

[barabbas]

You guys are making this so incredibly and unnecessary complicated that it is ultimately, sadly, quite off-putting. No one, no one sane, let alone even slightly interested in understanding what SolarCoin is and wants to achieve, would even remotely attempt to go through the incredible amount of blabber  posted just in this last page. What a pity.

If you can't make your pitchs in 15 seconds or less, you don't have anything worth pitching.  

[Epiphany]

You guys are making this so incredibly and unnecessary complicated that it is ultimately, sadly, quite off-putting. No one, no one sane, let alone even slightly interested in understanding what SolarCoin is and wants to achieve, would even remotely attempt to go through the incredible amount of blabber  posted just in this last page. What a pity.

If you can't make your pits in 15 seconds or less, you don't have anything worth pitching.  

Chances are pretty good you've never read this book then... 

[Epiphany]

Let's have some fun, shall we? A little thought exercise to see just how clever all of our "traders" really are!

Guidelines:

1. Anyone can participate and share thoughts and ideas.
2. Discuss differing opinions in a constructive way but try and stick to the premise.
3. Differentiate trade ideas based on both theoretical AND practical.
4. Only play along if it excites you.

Premise: The following chart shows, from a purely technical/graphical perspective, what appears to be a widened spread (red circle). Typically this is viewed as an indicator that there is a potential trade to be made.

Questions up for discussion:

1. What is that trade? (theoretical)
2. How can it be executed? (practical)



IMPORTANT: I will not be trading or participating because I just decided to offer a §20,000 bounty for the post I deem to be the most thoughtful by Sunday (February 8 ) at say 8:00 PM EST.

[barabbas]

You guys are making this so incredibly and unnecessary complicated that it is ultimately, sadly, quite off-putting. No one, no one sane, let alone even slightly interested in understanding what SolarCoin is and wants to achieve, would even remotely attempt to go through the incredible amount of blabber  posted just in this last page. What a pity.

If you can't make your pits in 15 seconds or less, you don't have anything worth pitching.  

Chances are pretty good you've never read this book then...  

What you see is what you get, take it or leave. Rest is BS.

But I thought we are here to promote the spread of usage of solar energy, unless I am mistaken... you seem to want to play games instead....
 ok.

It is a concern to me that ANY individual coming in here, that could be interested in solar energy for his home and could be interested in some kind of beneficial angle of doing so, through solarcoin, will be lost after the first paragraphs of the OP and, if he/she goes on and read the "latest developments" of this project, will actually hate himself/herself for even contemplate the possibility of ever pay the slightest attention to the enormous amount of fluff posted.

Anywhere at all that anyone will get, clearly AND SUCCINTLY explained, 1mgw = 1solarcoin and what in figures that anyone can understand, WILL that mean from day one? Where and how to claim it -perhaps with a little infographic aid-, would also help AND, no doubt, would clarify the bigger picture for every one.

After that, back to the games by all means...

[Epiphany]

What you see is what you get, take it or leave. Rest is BS.

But I thought we are here to promote the spread of usage of solar energy, unless I am mistaken... you seem to want to play games instead....
 ok.

It is a concern to me that ANY individual coming in here, that could be interested in solar energy for his home and could be interested in some kind of beneficial angle of doing so, through solarcoin, will be lost after the first paragraphs of the OP and, if he/she goes on and read the "latest developments" of this project, will actually hate himself/herself for even contemplate the possibility of ever pay the slightest attention to the enormous amount of fluff posted.

Anywhere at all that anyone will get, clearly AND SUCCINTLY explained, 1mgw = 1solarcoin and what in figures that anyone can understand, WILL that mean from day one? Where and how to claim it -perhaps with a little infographic aid-, would also help AND, no doubt, would clarify the bigger picture for every one.

After that, back to the games by all means...

I like to have fun. If you choose not to, by all means, up to you. But I choose to believe we are quite capable as human beings to have fun and be serious at the same time... 

[corather]

You guys are making this so incredibly and unnecessary complicated that it is ultimately, sadly, quite off-putting. No one, no one sane, let alone even slightly interested in understanding what SolarCoin is and wants to achieve, would even remotely attempt to go through the incredible amount of blabber  posted just in this last page. What a pity.

If you can't make your pits in 15 seconds or less, you don't have anything worth pitching.  

Chances are pretty good you've never read this book then...  

What you see is what you get, take it or leave. Rest is BS.

But I thought we are here to promote the spread of usage of solar energy, unless I am mistaken... you seem to want to play games instead....
 ok.

It is a concern to me that ANY individual coming in here, that could be interested in solar energy for his home and could be interested in some kind of beneficial angle of doing so, through solarcoin, will be lost after the first paragraphs of the OP and, if he/she goes on and read the "latest developments" of this project, will actually hate himself/herself for even contemplate the possibility of ever pay the slightest attention to the enormous amount of fluff posted.

Anywhere at all that anyone will get, clearly AND SUCCINTLY explained, 1mgw = 1solarcoin and what in figures that anyone can understand, WILL that mean from day one? Where and how to claim it -perhaps with a little infographic aid-, would also help AND, no doubt, would clarify the bigger picture for every one.

After that, back to the games by all means...

Solar adopters are already used to counter intuitive technology. If you aren't, you aren't part of the target market.

Is that understandable in 15 seconds or less?

[barabbas]

You guys are making this so incredibly and unnecessary complicated that it is ultimately, sadly, quite off-putting. No one, no one sane, let alone even slightly interested in understanding what SolarCoin is and wants to achieve, would even remotely attempt to go through the incredible amount of blabber  posted just in this last page. What a pity.

If you can't make your pits in 15 seconds or less, you don't have anything worth pitching.  

Chances are pretty good you've never read this book then...  

What you see is what you get, take it or leave. Rest is BS.

But I thought we are here to promote the spread of usage of solar energy, unless I am mistaken... you seem to want to play games instead....
 ok.

It is a concern to me that ANY individual coming in here, that could be interested in solar energy for his home and could be interested in some kind of beneficial angle of doing so, through solarcoin, will be lost after the first paragraphs of the OP and, if he/she goes on and read the "latest developments" of this project, will actually hate himself/herself for even contemplate the possibility of ever pay the slightest attention to the enormous amount of fluff posted.

Anywhere at all that anyone will get, clearly AND SUCCINTLY explained, 1mgw = 1solarcoin and what in figures that anyone can understand, WILL that mean from day one? Where and how to claim it -perhaps with a little infographic aid-, would also help AND, no doubt, would clarify the bigger picture for every one.

After that, back to the games by all means...

Solar adopters are already used to counter intuitive technology. If you aren't, you aren't part of the target market.

Is that understandable in 15 seconds or less?

Very. Except that if I have followed this project for over a year now, close enough to put it in my WALL OF HONOR, and yet I get lost in all the mumbo jumbo, it isn't that I am not part of the target market (that I am, as a home owner in the place with more solar hours per year probably in the entire world), it is that there is no target market.

Think about that for 15 seconds or less.

And, by the way, arrogant attitudes, from the people that represent the project, are a total no-no...