HagssFIN
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September 20, 2017, 09:42:17 AM |
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I don't know why pool hopping should be favorable.
It sucks.
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ordimans
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September 20, 2017, 09:52:45 AM |
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And our diff is dropping as I type. the gray line is way down. due to pressure from BCC/BCH Get used to big swings until BCC/BCH fades away.  ViaBTC reverse their half hashrate to BCC instead BTC. So difficulity will be changed soon right ? Difficulty is adjusting every 14 days with BTC, so no it will not bee soon. But on BCC there is other technics in place to reduce difficulty quicker if hashrate drops. OK. So with this difficulty and our hashrate, i think the end of month will be worth... It's not a good period for BTC. I hope i am wrong... Don't know for BCC, but profit seems to be high since yesterday. |
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kano (OP)
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September 20, 2017, 10:15:59 AM |
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I don't know why pool hopping should be favorable.
It sucks.
Well it's not favourable, nor is it penalised. It has no expected effect on your reward, other than e.g. if you mine half the time, you expect half the reward, etc. It simply increases your variance. |
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os2sam
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September 20, 2017, 11:05:48 AM |
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viabtc calculator 13.5 th > $12,45 btc a day
bcc does $14.32
So what. I don't really care about what an altcoin does. Maybe post in the altcoin section? |
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DarKSm0ke
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September 20, 2017, 12:09:58 PM
Last edit: September 20, 2017, 12:23:52 PM by DarKSm0ke |
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This is not making a whole lot of sense to express the revenue in $ per day.
It should only be considered as an indicator.
You can only count in $ per day for your reward if you exchange your coins everyday for $.
Which is most probably not what the majority of people is doing.
What you are earning in terms of btc today can be 14$ at today's exchange rate but be worth 12$ or 200$ tomorrow, but if you did not exchange the coins it is worth the btc amount that's it!
$ value should only be considered once coins are sold and in your bank account.
Stop looking at daily value and think long term or sell your gear, stop mining and do only trading if you want daily $.
I made the choice to mine almost 3 years ago and very happy with it!
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mdude77
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September 20, 2017, 12:40:25 PM |
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@ mdude do you think ramp and ramp down is punishing you?
or do you just dislike kano?
or is it another reason for saying ramp up ramp down is a punishment.
Neither #1 nor #2. Why would you think such? First of all I still don't have any mining hardware. 3 weeks since I ordered from Canaan and they still haven't provided a way to pay. I'm beginning to wonder if they are any better than Bitmain. At least Bitmain tells you when it'll be shipped and you know you are "pre-ordering". Second, I'm certainly not a pool hopper. Even if I had hardware, I still wouldn't hop! Third, my understanding was the reason these fancy payment systems were devised was to prevent pool hoppers from abusing pools. If it doesn't do that, what's the point? It certainly seems to only cause confusion. Furthermore, there wouldn't be any "dust" from being those who come and go, since currently there are no "dust" payments. (Granted, I have spent a little more than zero time, and not much more than that, trying to understand PPLNS ... the "why" was more important to me, and clearly I got that wrong.) M |
I mine at Kano's Pool because it pays the best and is completely transparent! Come join me! |
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myob2
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September 20, 2017, 01:23:22 PM |
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It wasn't advise, just wanted to explain why hashpower is switching from btc to bcc. Short term profit on bcc is beter.
If you mine at viabtc it is even an option. The pool automatically points your hash to the most profitable coin.
Personally happy mining at kano.
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overcon
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September 20, 2017, 01:33:31 PM |
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Well I have not purchased from Canaan and or ran their hardware, but this is what I like about Bitmain. You can get on a list to be notified of release data.
So, for my pool buddies:
We are pleased to inform you that we will release a new batch of the Antminer S9 here at 11AM tomorrow (21 September, GMT+8)!
This new batch, too, delivers a hash rate of 14TH/s and an efficiency of 0.098J/GH. Because of the high demand and the manufacturing period, shipping for this batch will start on a “first paid, first ship” basis, after 1 December 2017. If we advance the shipment, we will notify you.
So yeah heard it hear first, because I just got this email. If you want an S9, I suggest you get one while you can.
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Donate BTC to: 1PXBBTLqXQnT9qAyWsc51XGj2GUt4WW57x
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ordimans
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September 20, 2017, 01:49:52 PM |
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This is not making a whole lot of sense to express the revenue in $ per day.
It should only be considered as an indicator.
You can only count in $ per day for your reward if you exchange your coins everyday for $.
Which is most probably not what the majority of people is doing.
What you are earning in terms of btc today can be 14$ at today's exchange rate but be worth 12$ or 200$ tomorrow, but if you did not exchange the coins it is worth the btc amount that's it!
$ value should only be considered once coins are sold and in your bank account.
Stop looking at daily value and think long term or sell your gear, stop mining and do only trading if you want daily $.
I made the choice to mine almost 3 years ago and very happy with it!
You are right. But if we can pay our hardware like that. Always same amount in BTC and not change when BTC/USD change, it's will be perfect. The problem is the mining hardware cost in USD, so if you want to calcul profit you must do in USD. It's same with immovable, you don't buy building, and calcul your profit in people or anything else  I have a good price for S9 and L3+, i hesitate.... Or D3 maybe. But i think, S9 is the more reliable at long term. |
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NomadGroup
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September 20, 2017, 02:01:21 PM |
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Well I have not purchased from Canaan and or ran their hardware, but this is what I like about Bitmain. You can get on a list to be notified of release data.
So, for my pool buddies:
We are pleased to inform you that we will release a new batch of the Antminer S9 here at 11AM tomorrow (21 September, GMT+8)!
This new batch, too, delivers a hash rate of 14TH/s and an efficiency of 0.098J/GH. Because of the high demand and the manufacturing period, shipping for this batch will start on a “first paid, first ship” basis, after 1 December 2017. If we advance the shipment, we will notify you.
So yeah heard it hear first, because I just got this email. If you want an S9, I suggest you get one while you can.
Thanks! Although I got the same one because I'm on the list too! |
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mousehouse
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September 20, 2017, 02:33:55 PM |
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Either we're in a string of back luck or we're screwed by difficulty, come on blocks  On-topic, does the expected/average amount of shares shown on kano.is automatically update with changing btc difficulties? |
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ordimans
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September 20, 2017, 04:05:06 PM |
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Either we're in a string of back luck or we're screwed by difficulty, come on blocks On-topic, does the expected/average amount of shares shown on kano.is automatically update with changing btc difficulties? Or both  |
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NotFuzzyWarm
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September 20, 2017, 04:11:16 PM |
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^^ Bitch, bitch, bitch...
Ya *do* know that we are still a couple blocks ahead of what the expected number is right?
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philipma1957
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September 20, 2017, 07:33:19 PM |
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viabtc calculator 13.5 th > $12,45 btc a day
bcc does $14.32
So what. I don't really care about what an altcoin does. Maybe post in the altcoin section? this alt coin directly affects the hash rate and the difficulty of btc is you really love btc and are a btc guy and nothing else you need to understand the effects this coin has on btc it is a direct attempt to make btc into another alt coin. and they would only be alt coins or crypto coins if it succeeds at what it is trying to do. look at the gray line on the chart below we are down almost 18% for BTC and why is that because viabtc.com auto- switches from BTC to BCC/BCH or back to BTC I know kano is anti alt but the fact is BCC/BCH is linked to BTC like the moon is linked to the earth . it won't decouple and it will change diff a lot. think of the moons effect on the earths tides .  |
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NomadGroup
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September 20, 2017, 08:15:00 PM |
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^^ Bitch, bitch, bitch...
Ya *do* know that we are still a couple blocks ahead of what the expected number is right?
Still but from what it looks like not for long!  |
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kano (OP)
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September 21, 2017, 12:01:08 AM |
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^^ Bitch, bitch, bitch...
Ya *do* know that we are still a couple blocks ahead of what the expected number is right?
Still but from what it looks like not for long! Fortunately, neither you, nor anyone else, can predict the future luck of any pool  Nor does the history affect that. The expected future luck is always 100% less orphans. |
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kano (OP)
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September 21, 2017, 12:36:51 AM |
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The JP node is having network dropouts for the last 20 minutes - so hopefully the few mining to it also have another node as backup.
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beltsniffer
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September 21, 2017, 01:01:29 AM |
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Think I'll have some chicken for dinner.  |
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matscol
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September 21, 2017, 01:20:40 AM |
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This long pool block is all my fault, I pointed 19 new S9s at the pool shortly after the last block. Never fails.
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NomadGroup
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September 21, 2017, 02:34:46 AM |
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^^ Bitch, bitch, bitch...
Ya *do* know that we are still a couple blocks ahead of what the expected number is right?
Still but from what it looks like not for long! Fortunately, neither you, nor anyone else, can predict the future luck of any pool Nor does the history affect that. The expected future luck is always 100% less orphans. We know Kano, we know. I guess we were just hoping for another April. |
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