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September 11, 2017, 02:55:36 AM
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I certainly don't want anyone to leave the pool but at what point does it make sense for someone to solo mine?
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Solo mining for a small miner (less than 10PH) is high risk gambling.
The smaller the hash rate, the even higher the risk becomes, though of course the possible loss reduces also.

10PH currently averages about 4.5 days per block.
But if you e.g. hit a 300% block (which is expected average 1 in ~20 blocks you'll find) that would be about 2 weeks between your solo payouts ... with 10PH

If instead you only had 1PH, a 300% block becomes well over 20 weeks - since difficulty is expected to rise over that time frame and thus 300% gets harder and harder as that 20 weeks progresses.

Bottom line is, if you are a gambling addict, risking a large amount for a possible big OR small OR zero reward, then solo is for you Smiley

Otherwise, stick with the intelligent choice, and mine here Smiley

Oh I agree 100%. I am not even considering it. I was mainly referring to those like Cobra who is close to 20 PH. While I have the resources to set up a 20 PH mine I don't have the balls to do it. I will stay a small fish and stay in the pool I was just curious about those with serious hash power where the crossover point was.
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September 11, 2017, 03:11:03 AM
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I certainly don't want anyone to leave the pool but at what point does it make sense for someone to solo mine?
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Solo mining for a small miner (less than 10PH) is high risk gambling.
The smaller the hash rate, the even higher the risk becomes, though of course the possible loss reduces also.

10PH currently averages about 4.5 days per block.
But if you e.g. hit a 300% block (which is expected average 1 in ~20 blocks you'll find) that would be about 2 weeks between your solo payouts ... with 10PH

If instead you only had 1PH, a 300% block becomes well over 20 weeks - since difficulty is expected to rise over that time frame and thus 300% gets harder and harder as that 20 weeks progresses.

Bottom line is, if you are a gambling addict, risking a large amount for a possible big OR small OR zero reward, then solo is for you Smiley

Otherwise, stick with the intelligent choice, and mine here Smiley

Oh I agree 100%. I am not even considering it. I was mainly referring to those like Cobra who is close to 20 PH. While I have the resources to set up a 20 PH mine I don't have the balls to do it. I will stay a small fish and stay in the pool I was just curious about those with serious hash power where the crossover point was.

Yeah I can sink 150k which is about 120 Avalon 741s.

If I did this I would be at 900 th.

Since I have another 70 th I would be very close to 1ph

The network is about 7500 ph. So I would have 1/8000 of the network.

Back in 2012 I had 10gh. The net work was 21th.

That is 10000/21000000

Or 1/2100 of the network was all mine.

Wow hard to believe that 22 gpus in my garage in NJ USA  in 2012 was 1/2100 of the entire network.

I used about 11000 watts to mine then

I wish I had that now say 4 ph using only 11000 watts

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September 11, 2017, 03:20:23 AM
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The pool-side hash rate for one of my S9's dropped today to about 2/3 of expected. Looked like a bad board, and indeed in local status when I checked it was showing 0 in the GH/s(RT) column for one of the boards (though under ASIC i've still got all o's).

I powered it down, cleaned it out, restarted and now the local status shows ~4,500 in the GH/s(RT) column for all 3 boards. But the poolside hashrate is still showing ~9.5TH/s for that unit.

Has anyone had something like this happen before? Any advice?
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September 11, 2017, 03:23:39 AM
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The pool-side hash rate for one of my S9's dropped today to about 2/3 of expected. Looked like a bad board, and indeed in local status when I checked it was showing 0 in the GH/s(RT) column for one of the boards (though under ASIC i've still got all o's).

I powered it down, cleaned it out, restarted and now the local status shows ~4,500 in the GH/s(RT) column for all 3 boards. But the poolside hashrate is still showing ~9.5TH/s for that unit.

Has anyone had something like this happen before? Any advice?

yeah it is very likely dying on you.

and most likely it is a board or two.

not the controller.

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September 11, 2017, 03:33:15 AM
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yeah it is very likely dying on you.

and most likely it is a board or two.

not the controller.

definitely possible that the board is dying but for now it seems to be working from the local side, so i was wondering why the pool side hr hadn't moved.  but it's slowly coming up now (>10.5TH/s) so the number on the workers>>workers page of kano.is must be a little bit longer average than what i expected.
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September 11, 2017, 03:52:27 AM
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Can't complain at all about the weekend block count. Five blocks in two days is still pretty sweet!

I look back fondly to those seven-block (or more) days. We were then at ~32-34PH. That seemed like a lot for a small, lucky pool like us!  Of course, BTC price was way below $800 then. Cool Cool

But I feel that as our pool continues to grow, we will get back to those 7-block days!!  Grin
We have more than doubled our hash rate in the last year and I wouldn't be surprised if we start moving towards 100PH by the end of this year. Sure, the block reward will also decrease with paying out more miners, but we will even that out with more frequent blocks!

So, hang on boys and girls, we are moving into uncharted territory with increasing pool hash and an amazing run in BTC coin price. If the price drops it's a chance to buy. If it drops substantially, perhaps some will turn their miners off and give us a difficulty decrease. (I wouldn't hold my breath on that, however.)

Best of luck to us all!! We are in this together!!  Cheesy Cheesy

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Nobody is complaining.  Tongue.  Tomorrow I'm getting the replacement control board for my S9, it is already in the local DHL office!  Grin
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September 11, 2017, 04:06:47 AM
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Nobody is complaining.  Tongue.  Tomorrow I'm getting the replacement control board for my S9, it is already in the local DHL office!  Grin

Very cool! I know that feeling of getting a replacement that makes "things" right again!  Cheesy

I NEED a control board for one of my early batch S9's. It is the two-piece type and I believe it is the Beagle bone Black board that has failed. (It has some melted plastic on the back of the card that makes me think that is the culprit.)

I did swap it out with another S9 controller and that seems to be the problem. So I have one S9 totally off-line. It will only have two working hash boards when I get it back on-line. I'll worry about a board repair/replacement later.

My MAIN question is:: Where did you get the board from???

I have just in the last hour put in a ticket with Bitmain and Bitmain Warranty looking to get a repair or replacement for the board. Neither of these companies list it as being in stock. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

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September 11, 2017, 05:10:30 AM
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Block!!!  Grin
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September 11, 2017, 06:41:54 AM
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yeah it is very likely dying on you.

and most likely it is a board or two.

not the controller.

definitely possible that the board is dying but for now it seems to be working from the local side, so i was wondering why the pool side hr hadn't moved.  but it's slowly coming up now (>10.5TH/s) so the number on the workers>>workers page of kano.is must be a little bit longer average than what i expected.
Your hash rate can take an hour or two to level out.
Of course that can be high or low on the pool, but it takes a while to converge.

Also, of course, if you were almost continually mining, i.e. the stop+start was short, the 1hr hash rate will take longer to average out since it's not 'starting from now at zero' but instead averaging out the longer running lower hash rate with the higher new hash rate.

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Nobody is complaining.  Tongue.  Tomorrow I'm getting the replacement control board for my S9, it is already in the local DHL office!  Grin

Very cool! I know that feeling of getting a replacement that makes "things" right again!  Cheesy

I NEED a control board for one of my early batch S9's. It is the two-piece type and I believe it is the Beagle bone Black board that has failed. (It has some melted plastic on the back of the card that makes me think that is the culprit.)

I did swap it out with another S9 controller and that seems to be the problem. So I have one S9 totally off-line. It will only have two working hash boards when I get it back on-line. I'll worry about a board repair/replacement later.

My MAIN question is:: Where did you get the board from???

I have just in the last hour put in a ticket with Bitmain and Bitmain Warranty looking to get a repair or replacement for the board. Neither of these companies list it as being in stock. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

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COMEONBLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You know this is the second time I buy a control board to replace and first time I got one on eBay and ended up paying like $185 with express shipping but the bastard didn't even had the board on hands and ended up sending it to me 20 days after I've made the payment!!!  And I've received it like 27 days after Angry. I was so freaking pissed because I've lost like $400 while waiting for it!!!  Angry Angry Angry. This is the sellers name by the way "kurniaboss888".

Anyway after another miners control board broke i stared looking for another place to buy because there is no way I would wait that long again! And pay that much when they are like $70 from bitmain (of course they never have it in stock).  I found a guy on Aliexpress and here is the link to the board itself...  

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/kuangcheng-s9-control-board-Applicable-to-ANTMINER-S9-14T-13-5T-13T-12-5T-12T-11/32828043453.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.iP2lmv

I bought 3 from him on the 5th or 6th and they are already in the Local DHL so it was fast!  I payed $77 for each and like $30 for the shipping of 3.  Although I just checked when I was copying the link for you and he changed his price from $77 to $99 but I think it's still is better than an S9 just sitting when it can make you that $100 in a week working.  If you like I can PM you tomorrow and let you know if what I got is good or not.   WinkSmiley
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September 11, 2017, 07:33:03 AM
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Block! by k4rth4l.

14.474 btc.  Wink.    Grin Grin Grin
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September 11, 2017, 07:37:16 AM
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Your hash rate can take an hour or two to level out.
Of course that can be high or low on the pool, but it takes a while to converge.

Also, of course, if you were almost continually mining, i.e. the stop+start was short, the 1hr hash rate will take longer to average out since it's not 'starting from now at zero' but instead averaging out the longer running lower hash rate with the higher new hash rate.

Thanks, that's mostly what it was, I didn't realize the workers>>workers page was using the 1hr rate, for some reason I thought that was 5min. It's all leveled out now.
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September 11, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
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Block! by k4rth4l.

14.474 btc.  Wink.    Grin Grin Grin

Any one notice that the user name for the last block won is .S3 please tell me a S3 hit that freaking block that would be amazing!

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You know this is the second time I buy a control board to replace and first time I got one on eBay and ended up paying like $185 with express shipping but the bastard didn't even had the board on hands and ended up sending it to me 20 days after I've made the payment!!!  And I've received it like 27 days after Angry. I was so freaking pissed because I've lost like $400 while waiting for it!!!  Angry Angry Angry. This is the sellers name by the way "kurniaboss888".

Anyway after another miners control board broke i stared looking for another place to buy because there is no way I would wait that long again! And pay that much when they are like $70 from bitmain (of course they never have it in stock).  I found a guy on Aliexpress and here is the link to the board itself...  

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/kuangcheng-s9-control-board-Applicable-to-ANTMINER-S9-14T-13-5T-13T-12-5T-12T-11/32828043453.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.iP2lmv

I bought 3 from him on the 5th or 6th and they are already in the Local DHL so it was fast!  I payed $77 for each and like $30 for the shipping of 3.  Although I just checked when I was copying the link for you and he changed his price from $77 to $99 but I think it's still is better than an S9 just sitting when it can make you that $100 in a week working.  If you like I can PM you tomorrow and let you know if what I got is good or not.   WinkSmiley

Yes, please let me know if it works. I see that is a 1 piece board. Where as mine is a two-piece. Would installing that one piece make my miner "auto-tune"? I really don't care if it does or not. It will just be nice to get back on-line.

Thanks for letting me know!!

EDIT: I quess I will be flashing the miner/board after installation with the appropriate firmware. In this case, 600MHz

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September 11, 2017, 10:13:43 AM
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Block!!!  Grin
Faantastic!! My miners are slowly coming back online after surviving Irma. Only lost 18 hours of my 5d. Woot!

Glad you survived and back online.

I just powered mine back up after about 10 hours of being offline and just over 23" of rain!!
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Block!!!  Grin
Faantastic!! My miners are slowly coming back online after surviving Irma. Only lost 18 hours of my 5d. Woot!

Glad you survived and back online.

I just powered mine back up after about 10 hours of being offline and just over 23" of rain!!

I'm glad those miners affected by the storm are beginning to come back on-line. Powering down in case the power died or surged was the wisest decision! Welcome back!
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Block! by elcapodels9 Smiley

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Block! by elcapodels9 Smiley

Nice!!!

Keep the blocks coming....
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Block! by elcapodels9 Smiley

Wow, that is our 3rd of BLOCK MONDAY! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Block! by elcapodels9 Smiley

Is it possible to add next to "Expected" (which is the expected # of blocks to this day, right?) a column showing the expected # of blocks for the month based on the average hashrate
Just thinking
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