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[MrRoach Sir]

When lookin at my stats page what do I go be for my "rate"? Share rate or Hash rate? Tryin to get above that Dust level. Gots four S3s running right now and the "big" AC is off. Numbers are crawlin up but it's beginning to get warm. "The power management struggle continues!"

Um you *do know* that a single undervolted A741 or even A721 will pull less power than those 3x s3's and still give around 5-6THs right? That is substantially above Dust level (and hopefully will be for quite a long while!). Just sayin'...

Craigslist locally the sellers are mighty "proud" of their used (or otherwise) equipment. Funds at the moment preclude an equipment upgrade but it's in my future. Just gotta settle for now.

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[Steamtyme]

You should look at cryptouniverse, just in case.
741 is 100 euro with shipping in July, and just email them for a custom shipping quote it's way cheaper.

 Its a great deal if you can find a spare 200 kicking around.

[MrRoach Sir]

You should look at cryptouniverse, just in case.
741 is 100 euro with shipping in July, and just email them for a custom shipping quote it's way cheaper.

 Its a great deal if you can find a spare 200 kicking around.

Thanx, i'll check that one out.

[kano]

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Kano, since you are so great with numbers, did you happen to run your own numbers to compare with what minergain has?  I have offered many times to have anyone review the data for accuracy (with no takers), so just curious if you came up with similar numbers or are interested in seeing the raw data?
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I go by my numbers KDB generates on the web site.
It's complete for each month, and specific block ranges.
There's no 'vague adjustments' to make it look better (or worse) it's just the numbers as shown.

Each person's reward will vary from the PAPPS% since the pool is PPLNS not PPS.
That's what the 'A' is - average - average over all miners (PA = pool average as it says)
If you mine constantly at a specific hash rate, is should be VERY close to the PAPPS%
But no one does that so it varies up and down a bit, and varies more depending on how variable your hash rate is.

[kano]

Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

Just a guess

if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  

It's probably due to looking when we find a block.

Every block change, the first shares are stale since they are the ones that arrived late from the previous block hashing.
However, when we get a new block, all the stats are initially zero, so the stales are initially a large % of all shares.

The total stale % goes down as more shares are submitted after the block change and goes up a bit every time there is a new network block - since that's what causes stale shares - but as time progresses from our last found block, as we get a larger and larger Diff%, the amount it goes up is of course relatively a LOT smaller.
You'll see it is currently down to 0.35% (at 5.8% diff)

Hmm - looking at that other pool - 2.8% rejected at 73% diff ... ouch.

Edit: oh I missed mentioning a second cause of it also.
There's a large miner that fails over often to the pool, his SPS value is actually about the same as the pool total SPS!
So when that happens, there may be a large number of 'Hi' shares when he connects - and as I've explained before about 'Hi' shares, they actually don't matter at all in terms of reward effect on the miner. But alas, they do show up as part of the 'Invalid' count.
So again, when this happens, if the pool Diff% is very low, it will appear as a much higher Invalid %.

[BSGMiner]

Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  

...SPS...

What is this SPS you speak of?

[kano]

Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  

...SPS...

What is this SPS you speak of?

Shares per second sent to the pool.

[rifleman74]

Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

Just a guess

if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  

It's probably due to looking when we find a block.

Every block change, the first shares are stale since they are the ones that arrived late from the previous block hashing.
However, when we get a new block, all the stats are initially zero, so the stales are initially a large % of all shares.

The total stale % goes down as more shares are submitted after the block change and goes up a bit every time there is a new network block - since that's what causes stale shares - but as time progresses from our last found block, as we get a larger and larger Diff%, the amount it goes up is of course relatively a LOT smaller.
You'll see it is currently down to 0.35% (at 5.8% diff)

Hmm - looking at that other pool - 2.8% rejected at 73% diff ... ouch.

Edit: oh I missed mentioning a second cause of it also.
There's a large miner that fails over often to the pool, his SPS value is actually about the same as the pool total SPS!
So when that happens, there may be a large number of 'Hi' shares when he connects - and as I've explained before about 'Hi' shares, they actually don't matter at all in terms of reward effect on the miner. But alas, they do show up as part of the 'Invalid' count.
So again, when this happens, if the pool Diff% is very low, it will appear as a much higher Invalid %.

That may have been it on the large miner.   

[kano]

Just had a failover on many of the nodes at 09:08 UTC
It's not clear if it was caused by the main server or the nodes, since they all connected back shortly afterwards, but not all nodes lost connection.
All the failover nodes were AWS but not all AWS failed over.
Affected were UK, DE and most of Stratum.
Anyway, they all connected back again quickly and all ok again.

Edit: and diff just went up - pretty small one 2.77%

Code:

[2018-06-19 09:15:01.595+00] workinfo_add(): DIFF CHANGE: hi=528192 delta=2.77% new=5077499034879.0 prev=4940704885521.8

[MKMiners]

Great work by block finders, it seems we are right back on track!

[rifleman74]

Just had a failover on many of the nodes at 09:08 UTC
It's not clear if it was caused by the main server or the nodes, since they all connected back shortly afterwards, but not all nodes lost connection.
All the failover nodes were AWS but not all AWS failed over.
Affected were UK, DE and most of Stratum.
Anyway, they all connected back again quickly and all ok again.

Edit: and diff just went up - pretty small one 2.77%

Code:

[2018-06-19 09:15:01.595+00] workinfo_add(): DIFF CHANGE: hi=528192 delta=2.77% new=5077499034879.0 prev=4940704885521.8

That's nothing. 

[BSGMiner]

Edit: and diff just went up - pretty small one 2.77%

Code:

[2018-06-19 09:15:01.595+00] workinfo_add(): DIFF CHANGE: hi=528192 delta=2.77% new=5077499034879.0 prev=4940704885521.8

That's nothing.  

At this rate, it might be negative next time with people shutting down their miners for $ or heat issues. All the more reason to...

MINE ON WITH THE KANOPOOL!!!

[Shazam!!!]

Great work by block finders, it seems we are right back on track!

Generally, this is how it's been going, for the last few months. Some people get a little shaky/nervous at the beginning of the month,
probably cause that's when bills are due, but we "even out" fairly well with double/triple days. Fingers crossed for more to come!!!

[MrRoach Sir]

Edit: and diff just went up - pretty small one 2.77%

Code:

[2018-06-19 09:15:01.595+00] workinfo_add(): DIFF CHANGE: hi=528192 delta=2.77% new=5077499034879.0 prev=4940704885521.8

That's nothing.  

At this rate, it might be negative next time with people shutting down their miners for $ or heat issues. All the more reason to...

MINE ON WITH THE KANOPOOL!!!

Gots heat issues here in Phoenix. Hundred teens, I can run them or keep my crib cool.....what to do, what to do.

[rifleman74]

Gots heat issues here in Phoenix. Hundred teens, I can run them or keep my crib cool.....what to do, what to do.

Stay alive good sir!

[kano]

Hmm - block txn fees have gone up over the last 12 hours on all blocks - hmm I wonder if that's the sign of a price rise?

[Shazam!!!]

Hmm - block txn fees have gone up over the last 12 hours on all blocks - hmm I wonder if that's the sign of a price rise?

Could be. It's either going to break the resistance at 7K or drop again to 6K for awhile longer.

[maddadata]

Hmm - block txn fees have gone up over the last 12 hours on all blocks - hmm I wonder if that's the sign of a price rise?

I've been following that exact trend, and ya...bulls bring tx fees, bears don't.  Always a good sign 

Mine On disciples of Kano!

[maddadata]

Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

Just a guess

 

Edit: oh I missed mentioning a second cause of it also.
There's a large miner that fails over often to the pool, his SPS value is actually about the same as the pool total SPS!
So when that happens, there may be a large number of 'Hi' shares when he connects - and as I've explained before about 'Hi' shares, they actually don't matter at all in terms of reward effect on the miner. But alas, they do show up as part of the 'Invalid' count.
So again, when this happens, if the pool Diff% is very low, it will appear as a much higher Invalid %.

WHOA....pump the brakes a sec!  Almost missed the scope of this!  U are sayin there is a 200+ph miner who FAILS over to the pool randomly?  That's a really big fish in a really small pond!  Not complaining, just wondering the logic of such a move 

[Yrth]

Hmm - block txn fees have gone up over the last 12 hours on all blocks - hmm I wonder if that's the sign of a price rise?

I noticed that earlier when I saw block# 528243 with over 5 btc in fees

There was one guy paying 2700 sats in fees to move tons of small payments around. They were paying 2btc in fees to move 1.65 in btc. BTC addy 18x5Wo3FLQN4t1DLZgV2MoAMWXmCYL9b7M

And this one, 17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX, was paying 300+ sats but they were moving 5000+ btc per transaction. I can understand not wanting to get that transaction stuck and paying a little more, but most of the blocks before that were still low fees.