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June 20, 2018, 12:00:15 PM
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Fat blocks?? Kano discord??

Next thing you know a certain hardware vendor will stop pumping out hardware.
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June 20, 2018, 01:07:11 PM
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Two quick questions:

1. Why does the Kano.is website log you out so quickly? It boots you after only about 10 mins.

2. I'm currently on the default "stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333".
As the closest sever to me is "stratum+tcp://uk.kano.is:3333" would there be much of an advantage in switching to the closer server?
A little detail would be good as while I realise pings would be important in something like online gaming but I don't understand how mining would matter much.

Thanks
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June 20, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
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Two quick questions:

1. Why does the Kano.is website log you out so quickly? It boots you after only about 10 mins.
20 minutes
Since an account is often more valuable than a typical bank account, I take the security very seriously.

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2. I'm currently on the default "stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333".
As the closest sever to me is "stratum+tcp://uk.kano.is:3333" would there be much of an advantage in switching to the closer server?
A little detail would be good as while I realise pings would be important in something like online gaming but I don't understand how mining would matter much.

Thanks
The time your share gets to the node, is the time used to decide if it is stale or not.
If the node is closer, you'll get a somewhat lower stale rate.
It is done that way coz I wanted it to be that way - the reason is that once a 'block share' gets to a node, it is immediately submitted to the bitcoind at the node, so your share's 'staleness' is defined by when it can first be submitted to a bitcoind, not when it gets back to the main back end server.

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June 20, 2018, 01:30:19 PM
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it IS great!!

Can someone explain me how a block gets fat or not? I hear transactions etc. but isnt it just a list of all transactions that every block carries with it? (so all should be approximately equal?)

thanks.

depends on the network traffic. usually you set a fee to get into the queue. When the network is not congested, it is as low as 1 satoshi/byte or 0.00001 BTC/kVB.
at the moment, it is 109 satoshi per byte, therefore the higher fees included into the current reward block (12.5 BTC + fee). so the fat 17BTC block worked out to be an "extra" 4.5BTC which at current market price is ~USD6710*4.5= USD30,195 which is quite FAT
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June 20, 2018, 01:36:38 PM
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Just logged into one of my machines and It says it "found 20 blocks"! Is THAT right? If so whatzit mean?
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June 20, 2018, 01:42:26 PM
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Two quick questions:

1. Why does the Kano.is website log you out so quickly? It boots you after only about 10 mins.
20 minutes
Since an account is often more valuable than a typical bank account, I take the security very seriously.

Fair enough

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2. I'm currently on the default "stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333".
As the closest sever to me is "stratum+tcp://uk.kano.is:3333" would there be much of an advantage in switching to the closer server?
A little detail would be good as while I realise pings would be important in something like online gaming but I don't understand how mining would matter much.

Thanks
The time your share gets to the node, is the time used to decide if it is stale or not.
If the node is closer, you'll get a somewhat lower stale rate.
It is done that way coz I wanted it to be that way - the reason is that once a 'block share' gets to a node, it is immediately submitted to the bitcoind at the node, so your share's 'staleness' is defined by when it can first be submitted to a bitcoind, not when it gets back to the main back end server.

Ok thanks.
Can I just confirm if I switch over to the UK server I won't loose anything shares-wise or rampup-wise (if that's a word)
I still appear to be "ramping up" after 5 days mining and don't want to loose anything.
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June 20, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
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Just logged into my "Worker5" machine and It says it "found 20 blocks"! Is THAT right? If so whatzit mean?
If it was mining directly to the pool then I guess the software in it that counts blocks is buggy.
I wrote the original block detection code in cgminer, but alas people broke it and changed it over the years.
I guess it would depend on who was the last person to hack it around Smiley

If it was mining via something else then:
1) It will get higher stales/rejects
2) It has a higher chance of losing a block
3) It was probably mining some random scam coin and found random scam coin blocks

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June 20, 2018, 01:45:25 PM
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Two quick questions:

1. Why does the Kano.is website log you out so quickly? It boots you after only about 10 mins.
20 minutes
Since an account is often more valuable than a typical bank account, I take the security very seriously.

Fair enough

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2. I'm currently on the default "stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333".
As the closest sever to me is "stratum+tcp://uk.kano.is:3333" would there be much of an advantage in switching to the closer server?
A little detail would be good as while I realise pings would be important in something like online gaming but I don't understand how mining would matter much.

Thanks
The time your share gets to the node, is the time used to decide if it is stale or not.
If the node is closer, you'll get a somewhat lower stale rate.
It is done that way coz I wanted it to be that way - the reason is that once a 'block share' gets to a node, it is immediately submitted to the bitcoind at the node, so your share's 'staleness' is defined by when it can first be submitted to a bitcoind, not when it gets back to the main back end server.

Ok thanks.
Can I just confirm if I switch over to the UK server I won't loose anything shares-wise or rampup-wise (if that's a word)
I still appear to be "ramping up" after 5 days mining and don't want to loose anything.
The 'ramp' is related to the time frame over which you have submitted shares to the pool.
It's basically a misnomer, but is easiest to explain it that way.

All nodes are part of the same KanoPool so if you mine to any one of them, you are, of course, sending shares to the one and only KanoPool Smiley

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June 20, 2018, 01:47:00 PM
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Just logged into my "Worker5" machine and It says it "found 20 blocks"! Is THAT right? If so whatzit mean?
If it was mining directly to the pool then I guess the software in it that counts blocks is buggy.
I wrote the original block detection code in cgminer, but alas people broke it and changed it over the years.
I guess it would depend on who was the last person to hack it around Smiley

If it was mining via something else then:
1) It will get higher stales/rejects
2) It has a higher chance of losing a block
3) It was probably mining some random scam coin and found random scam coin blocks

Had it for a couple months now and first i've seen such a thing.
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June 20, 2018, 01:52:13 PM
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Fair enough

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2. I'm currently on the default "stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333".
As the closest sever to me is "stratum+tcp://uk.kano.is:3333" would there be much of an advantage in switching to the closer server?
A little detail would be good as while I realise pings would be important in something like online gaming but I don't understand how mining would matter much.

Thanks
The time your share gets to the node, is the time used to decide if it is stale or not.
If the node is closer, you'll get a somewhat lower stale rate.
It is done that way coz I wanted it to be that way - the reason is that once a 'block share' gets to a node, it is immediately submitted to the bitcoind at the node, so your share's 'staleness' is defined by when it can first be submitted to a bitcoind, not when it gets back to the main back end server.

Ok thanks.
Can I just confirm if I switch over to the UK server I won't loose anything shares-wise or rampup-wise (if that's a word)
I still appear to be "ramping up" after 5 days mining and don't want to loose anything.
The 'ramp' is related to the time frame over which you have submitted shares to the pool.
It's basically a misnomer, but is easiest to explain it that way.

All nodes are part of the same KanoPool so if you mine to any one of them, you are, of course, sending shares to the one and only KanoPool Smiley

Perfect thanks.
New to PPLNS so just needed to confirm.
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June 20, 2018, 01:58:38 PM
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Just logged into my "Worker5" machine and It says it "found 20 blocks"! Is THAT right? If so whatzit mean?
If it was mining directly to the pool then I guess the software in it that counts blocks is buggy.
I wrote the original block detection code in cgminer, but alas people broke it and changed it over the years.
I guess it would depend on who was the last person to hack it around Smiley

If it was mining via something else then:
1) It will get higher stales/rejects
2) It has a higher chance of losing a block
3) It was probably mining some random scam coin and found random scam coin blocks

Had it for a couple months now and first i've seen such a thing.
A block currently has a share difficulty requirement of 5,077,499,034,879.017
The best share in your miner will, of course, be well below that, thus it didn't find any Bitcoin blocks.

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June 20, 2018, 02:20:03 PM
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Just logged into my "Worker5" machine and It says it "found 20 blocks"! Is THAT right? If so whatzit mean?
If it was mining directly to the pool then I guess the software in it that counts blocks is buggy.
I wrote the original block detection code in cgminer, but alas people broke it and changed it over the years.
I guess it would depend on who was the last person to hack it around Smiley

If it was mining via something else then:
1) It will get higher stales/rejects
2) It has a higher chance of losing a block
3) It was probably mining some random scam coin and found random scam coin blocks

Had it for a couple months now and first i've seen such a thing.
A block currently has a share difficulty requirement of 5,077,499,034,879.017
The best share in your miner will, of course, be well below that, thus it didn't find any Bitcoin blocks.

How would I know if any are legit? As in I stumble across a REAL block?
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June 20, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
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Just logged into my "Worker5" machine and It says it "found 20 blocks"! Is THAT right? If so whatzit mean?
If it was mining directly to the pool then I guess the software in it that counts blocks is buggy.
I wrote the original block detection code in cgminer, but alas people broke it and changed it over the years.
I guess it would depend on who was the last person to hack it around Smiley

If it was mining via something else then:
1) It will get higher stales/rejects
2) It has a higher chance of losing a block
3) It was probably mining some random scam coin and found random scam coin blocks

Had it for a couple months now and first i've seen such a thing.
A block currently has a share difficulty requirement of 5,077,499,034,879.017
The best share in your miner will, of course, be well below that, thus it didn't find any Bitcoin blocks.

How would I know if any are legit? As in I stumble across a REAL block?

The pool and all of us will let you know if the block(s) are legitimate Grin

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June 20, 2018, 05:55:58 PM
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it's been a month since i started mining here and this is the biggest reward so far thaks sidewinder. Grin Grin
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June 20, 2018, 06:01:06 PM
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Speaking of legitimate blocks! Smiley
I have set up a Telegram channel informing about new blocks found on kano.is. If you use a Telegram Messenger, you can click this link: https://t.me/kano_pool and subscribe. New block notification should arrive pretty fast (after the pool finds a block, of course!).

So far only new block notifications are set up, and I don't think we need other messages there. Certainly, there's not going to be any spam or other kinds of unwanted messages there (that's why it's a channel, and not a chat!).

Feel free to join!

Feedback and ideas are very welcome!
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June 20, 2018, 07:51:10 PM
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Speaking of legitimate blocks! Smiley
I have set up a Telegram channel informing about new blocks found on kano.is. If you use a Telegram Messenger, you can click this link: https://t.me/kano_pool and subscribe. New block notification should arrive pretty fast (after the pool finds a block, of course!).

So far only new block notifications are set up, and I don't think we need other messages there. Certainly, there's not going to be any spam or other kinds of unwanted messages there (that's why it's a channel, and not a chat!).

Feel free to join!

Feedback and ideas are very welcome!

That is a great idea.  I am assuming you have a program to feed it in, but if not and you want minergain to auto-fill the found blocks for you, I suspect that would be easy to do.  Otherwise everyone can setup their email or phone to get an alert directly as well.

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That is a great idea.  I am assuming you have a program to feed it in, but if not and you want minergain to auto-fill the found blocks for you, I suspect that would be easy to do.  Otherwise everyone can setup their email or phone to get an alert directly as well.
I made a script that checks pool API on a regular basis and sends notifications to the messenger when it 'sees' a new block. Initially I developed it for myself, because I was not very happy with Android app that gave 'false positive' notifications every time kdb is restarted. Then I thought it may be helpful to others - so I made a channel for others to be able to join as well.

The script does not store historical data (except for the last block height), so it is what it is - a tool to notify about new blocks.
Minergain provides a lot more statistical data, so I'm not even trying to compete! Smiley
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June 20, 2018, 08:40:09 PM
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I made a script that checks pool API on a regular basis and sends notifications to the messenger when it 'sees' a new block. Initially I developed it for myself, because I was not very happy with Android app that gave 'false positive' notifications every time kdb is restarted. Then I thought it may be helpful to others - so I made a channel for others to be able to join as well.

The script does not store historical data (except for the last block height), so it is what it is - a tool to notify about new blocks.
Minergain provides a lot more statistical data, so I'm not even trying to compete! Smiley
Minergain could do a lot more too - including an eventual api - but I have been lazy!  I am happy to help anywhere you like.  Not a problem if you want to continue your processing but if you want me to "auto" hook into your system one way or another, I am happy to help with that too (no charge of course).

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June 20, 2018, 09:14:34 PM
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When you send a transaction to somewhere else, you decide what transaction fee to add to it.  In the case of the exchanges, they make it simpler by picking the highest value (quickest confirm time) for you.  If you want your money moved quickly, you need to put a higher fee so that the miners pick it up right away.  If there are a lot of transactions waiting, that transaction money keeps getting higher to get over the top of everyone else.  As we mine, Kano's software picks out the best transactions for us to use in our mining.  Once we get the block, all the transaction fees get added to our mining proceeds.  So the net effect is that when bitcoin is active (more marketing hype perhaps), we get paid a lot more per block we find.

Thanks for explaining, again very clear, thank you.

Only thing i wonder: i didn't know that on forehand one could see how fat a block is, as everyone would pick the fattest blocks first?
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When you send a transaction to somewhere else, you decide what transaction fee to add to it.  In the case of the exchanges, they make it simpler by picking the highest value (quickest confirm time) for you.  If you want your money moved quickly, you need to put a higher fee so that the miners pick it up right away.  If there are a lot of transactions waiting, that transaction money keeps getting higher to get over the top of everyone else.  As we mine, Kano's software picks out the best transactions for us to use in our mining.  Once we get the block, all the transaction fees get added to our mining proceeds.  So the net effect is that when bitcoin is active (more marketing hype perhaps), we get paid a lot more per block we find.

Thanks for explaining, again very clear, thank you.

Only thing i wonder: i didn't know that on forehand one could see how fat a block is, as everyone would pick the fattest blocks first?

No, you pray that you hit the next block before anyone else does...if you do then you fill that block with the largest txns you can find Cheesy

No one can cherry-pick the fattest block coming up...it doesn't exist yet...

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