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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2437 blocks  (Read 5350889 times)
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December 04, 2017, 11:26:23 PM
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Got to 5Nd with this block  Cheesy

Even with PPLNS, my average per day for the S9 is now equal to the predicted ideal value calculated by cryptocompare at 0.0025/day !

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December 04, 2017, 11:32:11 PM
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hi,

could anyone tell me what the current full-ramp time is?

thanks!

According to https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout it's 14 days, 5 hours

thanks! wow, that is long! i have 10 S9s running, and another 10 coming soon... so it's a pretty pricey decision to make the switch to the Kano pool, which i do like, for a great number of reasons... -but it's a tough call with 10 (and soon 20) machines...

is there anything i'm missing, which may make the decision easier?

How about..."If I had 20 S9s I'd point them here and nowhere else..."  ?
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December 04, 2017, 11:50:14 PM
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thanks! wow, that is long! i have 10 S9s running, and another 10 coming soon... so it's a pretty pricey decision to make the switch to the Kano pool, which i do like, for a great number of reasons... -but it's a tough call with 10 (and soon 20) machines...

is there anything i'm missing, which may make the decision easier?

How about..."If I had 20 S9s I'd point them here and nowhere else..."  ?
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Another possible reason if my math is right - how about us being at .00048743 BTC / Day / TH and 244% over last month.  Obviously this can change rapidly either way, but personally I have more than paid for my entire month's power cost with the first two December blocks and am already into the gravy train for the rest of the month.

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December 04, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
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thanks! wow, that is long! i have 10 S9s running, and another 10 coming soon... so it's a pretty pricey decision to make the switch to the Kano pool, which i do like, for a great number of reasons... -but it's a tough call with 10 (and soon 20) machines...

is there anything i'm missing, which may make the decision easier?

How about..."If I had 20 S9s I'd point them here and nowhere else..."  ?
 Kiss
Another possible reason if my math is right - how about us being at .00048743 BTC / Day / TH and 244% over last month.  Obviously this can change rapidly either way, but personally I have more than paid for my entire month's power cost with the first two December blocks and am already into the gravy train for the rest of the month.

thanks! wow, that is long! i have 10 S9s running, and another 10 coming soon... so it's a pretty pricey decision to make the switch to the Kano pool, which i do like, for a great number of reasons... -but it's a tough call with 10 (and soon 20) machines...

is there anything i'm missing, which may make the decision easier?

How about..."If I had 20 S9s I'd point them here and nowhere else..."  ?
 Kiss
Another possible reason if my math is right - how about us being at .00048743 BTC / Day / TH and 244% over last month.  Obviously this can change rapidly either way, but personally I have more than paid for my entire month's power cost with the first two December blocks and am already into the gravy train for the rest of the month.

I'm new to the scene as well.

I have 2 S9's, 1 S4 and 1 S3...

So that's around 28-30 ths a month..

Can I really expect 0.380 btc for 26th/sna month?

Because that's incredible !!! That is way better than admin Antpool - all of them, which are saying I'd make only .169 a month..
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December 05, 2017, 01:42:20 AM
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Anyone an expert on setting up the Avalon 741? I got mine today. I plugged it into the other port on my PC and am able to hit the IP of 192.168.0.100 but I can't get it to save any settings, there is no password I can find to login with and when I try and change the password it fails. I went to the site and tried the setup video and it is not found on their site.

Be nice to get it up and working but it doesn't seem to want to retain any of the settings.

I also set the IP as a static and was able to hit it on my network, but as soon as I unplugged the Pie to see if I could get it to see the actual miner, everything went back to defaults.

Did some reading of the Avalon forum and it all said to view the video.

Thanks guys!

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December 05, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
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I'm new to the scene as well.

I have 2 S9's, 1 S4 and 1 S3...

So that's around 28-30 ths a month..

Can I really expect 0.380 btc for 26th/sna month?

Because that's incredible !!! That is way better than admin Antpool - all of them, which are saying I'd make only .169 a month..
Well that's based on his calc of what the pool is earning now. If it kept up at 147% luck, plus the fact that Kano pool shares the rewards with the miners and Antpoo doesn't.

Antpoo is scamming people out of hundreds of thousands every day by not sharing fees and they don't even notice. When they are only paying 12.5 BTC per block and Kano pool is paying 13.8 BTC per block (avg so far), you would definitely make more here even at 100% luck.
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December 05, 2017, 04:22:17 AM
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Anyone an expert on setting up the Avalon 741? I got mine today. I plugged it into the other port on my PC and am able to hit the IP of 192.168.0.100 but I can't get it to save any settings, there is no password I can find to login with and when I try and change the password it fails. I went to the site and tried the setup video and it is not found on their site.

Be nice to get it up and working but it doesn't seem to want to retain any of the settings.

I also set the IP as a static and was able to hit it on my network, but as soon as I unplugged the Pie to see if I could get it to see the actual miner, everything went back to defaults.

Did some reading of the Avalon forum and it all said to view the video.

Thanks guys!

If I were you I'd start fresh by flashing the micro SD card with the avalon miner software for your raspberry pi controller, then follow the instructions.(https://canaan.io/question/how-do-i-connect-an-avalonminer-721-and-avalonminer-controller-including-raspberry-pi-1-2-and-3/)

edit: not sure what you mean about connecting it to the "other port" on your pc. As a first step to initially configure the controller, you'll connect your PC to the controller with an ethernet cable. You manually change your pc's IP to 192.168.0.102/24 with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 (obviously). You then open your browser to http://192.168.0.100 From there you configure your LAN settings for your actual IP addressing scheme. Then you remove the direct ethernet connection, and plug the avalon controller's ethernet cable in to your router. Then from your computer, you'll navigate your browser to its new IP address that you set for instance 192.168.1.5 or whatever your situation entails.
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December 05, 2017, 04:33:47 AM
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hi,

could anyone tell me what the current full-ramp time is?

thanks!

According to https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout it's 14 days, 5 hours

thanks! wow, that is long! i have 10 S9s running, and another 10 coming soon... so it's a pretty pricey decision to make the switch to the Kano pool, which i do like, for a great number of reasons... -but it's a tough call with 10 (and soon 20) machines...

is there anything i'm missing, which may make the decision easier?

How about..."If I had 20 S9s I'd point them here and nowhere else..."  ?
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Yeah the only catch here is variance.
It's not terribly bad, but of course a lot more variance than the larger pools.

I'm still yet to understand why the 2 top miners left though.
THeir issue was given as variance, but that's a bit of a lame excuse since the average has been over 100% for a while.
Yeah it went under 100% short term but long term it's still over 100%

I guess they can't handle getting well over 100% PPS some months (162%, 138%, 133%) but only 78% PPS some other times Tongue
... it's called planning ahead Smiley

Edit: FYI 100% PPS over 77.94% is of course only 128.30%

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December 05, 2017, 04:42:51 AM
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hi,

could anyone tell me what the current full-ramp time is?

thanks!

According to https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout it's 14 days, 5 hours

thanks! wow, that is long! i have 10 S9s running, and another 10 coming soon... so it's a pretty pricey decision to make the switch to the Kano pool, which i do like, for a great number of reasons... -but it's a tough call with 10 (and soon 20) machines...

is there anything i'm missing, which may make the decision easier?

How about..."If I had 20 S9s I'd point them here and nowhere else..."  ?
 Kiss
Yeah the only catch here is variance.
It's not terribly bad, but of course a lot more variance than the larger pools.

I'm still yet to understand why the 2 top miners left though.
THeir issue was given as variance, but that's a bit of a lame excuse since the average has been over 100% for a while.
Yeah it went under 100% short term but long term it's still over 100%

I guess they can't handle getting well over 100% PPS some months (162%, 138%, 133%) but only 78% PPS some other times Tongue
... it's called planning ahead Smiley

Edit: FYI 100% PPS over 77.94% is of course only 128.30%

wouldn't the fact that fees are shared tip the scales easily?
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December 05, 2017, 05:02:29 AM
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Yeah the only catch here is variance.
It's not terribly bad, but of course a lot more variance than the larger pools.

I'm still yet to understand why the 2 top miners left though.
THeir issue was given as variance, but that's a bit of a lame excuse since the average has been over 100% for a while.
Yeah it went under 100% short term but long term it's still over 100%

I guess they can't handle getting well over 100% PPS some months (162%, 138%, 133%) but only 78% PPS some other times Tongue
... it's called planning ahead Smiley

Edit: FYI 100% PPS over 77.94% is of course only 128.30%

wouldn't the fact that fees are shared tip the scales easily?
Yeah, and at the moment there's also no fees at all til 2018
Then it's back to the lowest fees for all pools worth mining on, of 0.9%
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December 05, 2017, 11:44:02 AM
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Just bought my first s9.

I have it pointed at kano for 3 days now.

The ramp up time seems like around 15 days.


What happens if the power goes out or the internet drops during or after that time? Will it take 15 days to ramp up again?
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December 05, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
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Just bought my first s9.

I have it pointed at kano for 3 days now.

The ramp up time seems like around 15 days.


What happens if the power goes out or the internet drops during or after that time? Will it take 15 days to ramp up again?
As stated recently - the 5Nd ramp is always there, for each share you submit it takes 5Nd to reward it.

What it means is that if you mine for 1 day, then from when you started until 5Nd after you stop, it's expected to reward you a total of 1 day worth of mining.
Of course they are the statistical expectations, and luck will of course change that, but again that's what's expected to happen.

In terms of what you will see, if you mine for 2Nd then lose power for 0.5Nd, then it will take 3.5Nd more to get up to full.

But none of that affects your total expected reward, it's always expected to reward you the total amount of time your mine, it's just spread out over, from the time you start until 5Nd after you stop.

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December 05, 2017, 01:29:16 PM
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Just bought my first s9.

I have it pointed at kano for 3 days now.

The ramp up time seems like around 15 days.


What happens if the power goes out or the internet drops during or after that time? Will it take 15 days to ramp up again?

ramp goes down at the same rate it goes up is my understanding

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December 05, 2017, 01:32:32 PM
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If I were you I'd start fresh by flashing the micro SD card with the avalon miner software for your raspberry pi controller, then follow the instructions.(https://canaan.io/question/how-do-i-connect-an-avalonminer-721-and-avalonminer-controller-including-raspberry-pi-1-2-and-3/)

edit: not sure what you mean about connecting it to the "other port" on your pc. As a first step to initially configure the controller, you'll connect your PC to the controller with an ethernet cable. You manually change your pc's IP to 192.168.0.102/24 with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 (obviously). You then open your browser to http://192.168.0.100 From there you configure your LAN settings for your actual IP addressing scheme. Then you remove the direct ethernet connection, and plug the avalon controller's ethernet cable in to your router. Then from your computer, you'll navigate your browser to its new IP address that you set for instance 192.168.1.5 or whatever your situation entails.

I set the other NIC on my PC to the same Ip schema the default pie comes on. So I set it to 192.168.0.99 and plugged a cable into it and the pie to access the Avalon's API. Then the unit wasn't saving anything. Or it would save the IP address, but if I power cycled it, it would lose that IP. So i did just take another SD card and flashed it with the latest firmware and it worked.

Not sure I was happy getting a unit that didn't work right out the box. Was it even QC'd? Oh well, it seems to be working now so let's hope that continues! Get's me up to a massive 57TH Smiley

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December 05, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
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So i did just take another SD card and flashed it with the latest firmware and it worked.

SD Cards suck for reliability.  Mount it in a PC and run Spinrite level 2 on it and reformat it.  That sometimes will correct SSD type media.

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If I were you I'd start fresh by flashing the micro SD card with the avalon miner software for your raspberry pi controller, then follow the instructions.(https://canaan.io/question/how-do-i-connect-an-avalonminer-721-and-avalonminer-controller-including-raspberry-pi-1-2-and-3/)

edit: not sure what you mean about connecting it to the "other port" on your pc. As a first step to initially configure the controller, you'll connect your PC to the controller with an ethernet cable. You manually change your pc's IP to 192.168.0.102/24 with a gateway of 192.168.0.1 (obviously). You then open your browser to http://192.168.0.100 From there you configure your LAN settings for your actual IP addressing scheme. Then you remove the direct ethernet connection, and plug the avalon controller's ethernet cable in to your router. Then from your computer, you'll navigate your browser to its new IP address that you set for instance 192.168.1.5 or whatever your situation entails.

I set the other NIC on my PC to the same Ip schema the default pie comes on. So I set it to 192.168.0.99 and plugged a cable into it and the pie to access the Avalon's API. Then the unit wasn't saving anything. Or it would save the IP address, but if I power cycled it, it would lose that IP. So i did just take another SD card and flashed it with the latest firmware and it worked.

Not sure I was happy getting a unit that didn't work right out the box. Was it even QC'd? Oh well, it seems to be working now so let's hope that continues! Get's me up to a massive 57TH Smiley
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December 05, 2017, 01:39:08 PM
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Not sure I was happy getting a unit that didn't work right out the box. Was it even QC'd? Oh well, it seems to be working now so let's hope that continues! Get's me up to a massive 57TH Smiley


Mining is so addictive - I'm glad there's it is relatively hard these days to quickly get miners, otherwise it'd be too easy to spend more and more on it.
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December 05, 2017, 01:42:37 PM
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Yeah the only catch here is variance.
It's not terribly bad, but of course a lot more variance than the larger pools.

I'm still yet to understand why the 2 top miners left though.
THeir issue was given as variance, but that's a bit of a lame excuse since the average has been over 100% for a while.
Yeah it went under 100% short term but long term it's still over 100%

I guess they can't handle getting well over 100% PPS some months (162%, 138%, 133%) but only 78% PPS some other times Tongue
... it's called planning ahead Smiley

Edit: FYI 100% PPS over 77.94% is of course only 128.30%

I don't get it either. Unless some other issue that came up but still, some folks only look at the immediate, not the long term. I hated to see Cobra pull most of their stuff out, but other than that I am pretty happy with the pool. Sure even I get a tad bit frustrated on longer runs, but then we get a reward and I get almost 400 bucks with my measly 51TH (now 58) and I am happy.

Seven more blocks and I can pay off a credit card, woot! And BTC is almost 12k; its good to be a miner. Wish I had gotten into BTC a long time ago, but I was working for EA at the time having a blast and it just wasn't a priority (kick myself in the ass).

Thanks, Kano, for keeping it real!


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December 05, 2017, 03:27:11 PM
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It is not much, but I also added a new 741 to the pool yesterday.

It turns out that even though I have plenty of capacity left on my mining breakers, the new 741 (combined with everything else also on the subpanel) was just enough extra to trip the breaker feeding the entire subpanel after a few hours.  I adjusted down some older gear to compensate (I hope). 


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I think we all wish we started in the beginning...wouldn't that have been a hoot Cheesy
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