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[coinbizarre]

I just jumped on the kano band wagon today. I was only getting .01 btc every 4 days with aprox 30 TH/s at slushpool. I'm interested to see what I can average on kano.

Just make sure you give the pool enough time to level out variance.  Long term, Slushpool charges 2%, Kano charges 0.9%, so your going to see 1.1% more here.  Thus 0.1 BTC will average out to 0.1012 BTC, adjusted for difficulty increases of course.

I finally rescanned the slush and kano records to hopefully correct my issue, so the https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats gives real-time information between kano and slush since last month.  As mentioned, this does not take ramp up / down into account for either pool, but gives you a "what if" of the historical results.  For some reason the CDT values from the home page do not correspond to the values this report, so I may have a little more review to do.  If anyone spends the time to compare, please let me know your results.

According to this Slush pays out about 11% more than Kano, and from my two weeks here on the pool it is a little bit more than that i will see how it works out after a month

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[wavelengthsf]

Guys another noob question,how does the miners vote for segwit or bip109 does the pool decide or do we have to do something to the miners that is beyond me?

Segwit locked in to the mainnet last year. No other voting is needed.

[rifleman74]

I just jumped on the kano band wagon today. I was only getting .01 btc every 4 days with aprox 30 TH/s at slushpool. I'm interested to see what I can average on kano.

Just make sure you give the pool enough time to level out variance.  Long term, Slushpool charges 2%, Kano charges 0.9%, so your going to see 1.1% more here.  Thus 0.1 BTC will average out to 0.1012 BTC, adjusted for difficulty increases of course.

I finally rescanned the slush and kano records to hopefully correct my issue, so the https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats gives real-time information between kano and slush since last month.  As mentioned, this does not take ramp up / down into account for either pool, but gives you a "what if" of the historical results.  For some reason the CDT values from the home page do not correspond to the values this report, so I may have a little more review to do.  If anyone spends the time to compare, please let me know your results.

According to this Slush pays out about 11% more than Kano, and from my two weeks here on the pool it is a little bit more than that i will see how it works out after a month

Not even close, check your numbers again. 

[ccgllc]

I just jumped on the kano band wagon today. I was only getting .01 btc every 4 days with aprox 30 TH/s at slushpool. I'm interested to see what I can average on kano.

Just make sure you give the pool enough time to level out variance.  Long term, Slushpool charges 2%, Kano charges 0.9%, so your going to see 1.1% more here.  Thus 0.1 BTC will average out to 0.1012 BTC, adjusted for difficulty increases of course.

I finally rescanned the slush and kano records to hopefully correct my issue, so the https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats gives real-time information between kano and slush since last month.  As mentioned, this does not take ramp up / down into account for either pool, but gives you a "what if" of the historical results.  For some reason the CDT values from the home page do not correspond to the values this report, so I may have a little more review to do.  If anyone spends the time to compare, please let me know your results.

According to this Slush pays out about 11% more than Kano, and from my two weeks here on the pool it is a little bit more than that i will see how it works out after a month

Not even close, check your numbers again.  

Per the minergain website provided, with its limited timeframe data, it does appear that slush pays more, but we know mathematically that is not true over a longer time period.  If minergate had a year or two of data, the results would be different.

[coinbizarre]

I just jumped on the kano band wagon today. I was only getting .01 btc every 4 days with aprox 30 TH/s at slushpool. I'm interested to see what I can average on kano.

Just make sure you give the pool enough time to level out variance.  Long term, Slushpool charges 2%, Kano charges 0.9%, so your going to see 1.1% more here.  Thus 0.1 BTC will average out to 0.1012 BTC, adjusted for difficulty increases of course.

I finally rescanned the slush and kano records to hopefully correct my issue, so the https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats gives real-time information between kano and slush since last month.  As mentioned, this does not take ramp up / down into account for either pool, but gives you a "what if" of the historical results.  For some reason the CDT values from the home page do not correspond to the values this report, so I may have a little more review to do.  If anyone spends the time to compare, please let me know your results.

According to this Slush pays out about 11% more than Kano, and from my two weeks here on the pool it is a little bit more than that i will see how it works out after a month

Not even close, check your numbers again. 

Well as I said earlier according to Miner Gain if you look at the past two months it is about 11% more on Slush than Kano, they only have data available for past two months.
I just used an arbitrary number for hash rate (100 Th/s), on Slush it shows a payout of 0.3735512 BTC and on Kano it shows a payout of 0.3376753 BTC that is where I came up with my 11% figure.

[minergain.com]

According to this Slush pays out about 11% more than Kano, and from my two weeks here on the pool it is a little bit more than that i will see how it works out after a month

Not even close, check your numbers again.  

Per the minergate website provided, with its limited timeframe data, it does appear that slush pays more, but we know mathematically that is not true over a longer time period.  If minergate had a year or two of data, the results would be different.

I really think that something is majorly wrong with the new btcstats report I created.  Unfortunately I dont have time to look at it in detail this week but I will check it over thoroughly next week.  Even after rescanning the block information, the home page CDT values (Coin per Day per Th) are showing Kano quite a bit more than Slush, and my experience is that those values are more correct.  I started comparing the Kano values with my own payments, and it is pretty close.  If someone has actual slush reward values (I guess I should check to see if anyone has added their API to the MinerGain reward table), we can compare those actual values to what is reported in this new system.

*Edit - I checked and we have a couple miners with rewards captured from Slush that I will review.  It looks like pool_id 31 (tungting) is the best to review since they have 2068 reward records since 1/18.

*Edit 2 - I quickly scanned this miner's rewards and the block counts in this new report are off by at least one per day. When I rescanned, I did not remove the old ones first which I apparently need to do.  I will purge them all and have the system grab them again from Dec 1.

[MKMiners]

Okay, bad news I dropped my phone and it's now not powering on at all, only on charging, it powers on but gets in endless bootloops showing MI logo all time and restarting. Guess I may need to get it fixed by firmware reflash or something else.

On topic, I had 2FA enabled for login to Kano website. I've my 2FA key saved to my computer, now how do I disable 2FA since my phone won't be on soon? Thanks.

[BSGMiner]

Good news!!! If you joined Kano at the beginning of this block, you're almost half way ramped up!

[rifleman74]

Good news!!! If you joined Kano at the beginning of this block, you're almost half way ramped up!

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MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

[rifleman74]

And the hash rate becomes more "normal" again after the chasers have left.  They totally missed out last weekend.   


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

[Shazam!!!]

And the hash rate becomes more "normal" again after the chasers have left.  They totally missed out last weekend.   

MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

It might be something else going on, Kano seemed pretty confident it was settled at ~190ish.

[kano]

And the hash rate becomes more "normal" again after the chasers have left.  They totally missed out last weekend.   

MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

It might be something else going on, Kano seemed pretty confident it was settled at ~190ish.

Heh - it dropped an hour ago due to a power issue for some miners.
It'll be back.

[rifleman74]

And the hash rate becomes more "normal" again after the chasers have left.  They totally missed out last weekend.   

MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

It might be something else going on, Kano seemed pretty confident it was settled at ~190ish.

Heh - it dropped an hour ago due to a power issue for some miners.
It'll be back.

Well let's just MINE THE F ON THEN! 

[kano]

Okay, bad news I dropped my phone and it's now not powering on at all, only on charging, it powers on but gets in endless bootloops showing MI logo all time and restarting. Guess I may need to get it fixed by firmware reflash or something else.

On topic, I had 2FA enabled for login to Kano website. I've my 2FA key saved to my computer, now how do I disable 2FA since my phone won't be on soon? Thanks.

You cannot recover 2FA from the website.

You can manually enter the 2FA into a 2nd device, the only thing required is the Secret Key - but if you saved the actual QRCode then you just need to scan that again into another device.

If you need to manually enter the code, the relevant settings are: TOTP, 6 digits, SHA256, 30 seconds

[ZorzyZii]

I just jumped on the kano band wagon today. I was only getting .01 btc every 4 days with aprox 30 TH/s at slushpool. I'm interested to see what I can average on kano.

Just make sure you give the pool enough time to level out variance.  Long term, Slushpool charges 2%, Kano charges 0.9%, so your going to see 1.1% more here.  Thus 0.1 BTC will average out to 0.1012 BTC, adjusted for difficulty increases of course.

I finally rescanned the slush and kano records to hopefully correct my issue, so the https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats gives real-time information between kano and slush since last month.  As mentioned, this does not take ramp up / down into account for either pool, but gives you a "what if" of the historical results.  For some reason the CDT values from the home page do not correspond to the values this report, so I may have a little more review to do.  If anyone spends the time to compare, please let me know your results.

According to this Slush pays out about 11% more than Kano, and from my two weeks here on the pool it is a little bit more than that i will see how it works out after a month

Not even close, check your numbers again. 

Well as I said earlier according to Miner Gain if you look at the past two months it is about 11% more on Slush than Kano, they only have data available for past two months.
I just used an arbitrary number for hash rate (100 Th/s), on Slush it shows a payout of 0.3735512 BTC and on Kano it shows a payout of 0.3376753 BTC that is where I came up with my 11% figure.

Kano and the rest of us look at this,
They lie to show better results. THEY LIE. Look at it here, https://btc.com/stats/pool/SlushPool it says that in April Slush pool found 496 blocks, and on this link  https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats&poolid=-1&hash=13.5&groupby=30 is written 553. 57 blocks more.
How is it no shame for them that they have to lie to show better results?
They started to lie because they fear KanoPool will be better and better. You'll see, It will.
In my previous calculation I have shown that the Kano Pool with 150PHs has approximately the same earnings as Slush, and now that we have 50PHs, we will have more profit from the Slush Pool on one S9.
Kano, please comment this. Why do they lie about the data?

[minergain.com]

Kano and the rest of us look at this,
They lie to show better results. THEY LIE. Look at it here, https://btc.com/stats/pool/SlushPool it says that in April Slush pool found 496 blocks, and on this link  https://www.minergain.com/?btcstats&poolid=-1&hash=13.5&groupby=30 is written 553. 57 blocks more.
How is it no shame for them that they have to lie to show better results?
They started to lie because they fear KanoPool will be better and better. You'll see, It will.
In my previous calculation I have shown that the Kano Pool with 150PHs has approximately the same earnings as Slush, and now that we have 50PHs, we will have more profit from the Slush Pool on one S9.
Kano, please comment this. Why do they lie about the data?

Thank you for looking into this but please don't put too much stock in this report yet.  As I mentioned, I believe I still have some funky business going on with the blocks.  The pool stats such as shares, users, etc are being gathered each minute (for slush and kano) while the block is being processed.  Once the block is found, the "in process" block is supposed to be replaced with the block number found by the pool. For some reason with my coding for Slush, there were a lot of these "in process" blocks that got updated to the found block plus 1.  When the public block gathering code came along, the found block number was not in the system so it added another record for that block.  As I said, I will look into this more next week since I have several issues for my digital signage paying customer base that I have to take care of this week.

*Edit - if you want to actually count the blocks, you can find them at https://slushpool.com/stats/blocks/.  I just purged the entire block table for slush and am reprocessing them again.

[kano]

For April our month luck was 100.37% - so we pretty much hit right on target.

Firstly:
You can NEVER expect any pool to get better than 100% luck.
You must always assume 100% luck minus fees.
So if a pool hits 100% luck then someone can not claim any magical crystal ball future predictions saying they'll get more at another pool with higher fees

We do keep up the luck around 100% long term, and do keep hitting blocks every diff change, so fees really are the only metric that will allow you to compare 'expected' reward between us and another pool.

No idea about the data, but I can point out that the only way mining on slush could have made 11% more than us last month is if their month luck was:
Luck here was 100.37% * 101.1% (extra fees) * 111%
So they'd have to have had 112.64% luck for the month of April.

Now if they got 500 blocks in that month, then the CDF[Erl] of them getting 112.64% luck is ... 0.996835 or once in about 26.3 years
Sounds unlikely they had a 500 block month at 112.6% luck

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This also indirectly explains variance for anyone who's interested
The more blocks a pool finds, the less likely they are going to have large swings in luck - the CDF[Erl] calculation effectively proves that since the number of events (blocks) reduces the calculated chance of a large swing in the mean (the luck)

We've been pretty high on the variance in the past, so we got high and low months like 143% luck and 44% luck
Since we've grown well above the size in February - more expected blocks per month - we'll find those high swings in variance less likely.

[minergain.com]

Now that I rebuilt the blocks (be aware that I have not fixed the bug for new blocks yet), here are the final totals for April (which matches what ZorzyZii stated for Slush's April count).

Kano - 22 blocks, average 134.35Th/s, 0.0280175 payout for 13.5Th/s
Slush - 496 blocks, average 3.12Ph/s, 0.0273638 payout for 13.5Th/s

My personal payout for roughly 13.58 Th/s from Kano was 0.0278895, so these numbers are close (there are all kinds of rounding differences since pool reporting is done in Th/s, etc).

Here are the CDT values (Coins per Day per Th/s) that also show Kano over Slush short and long term.
Name   Week CDT      Month CDT      Quarter CDT   Year CDT
KanoPool   0.00010197   0.00006459   0.00008834   0.00021177
SlushPool   0.00005526   0.00005896   0.00006884   0.00020906

[Ze777]

News update from our Japanese friends over in Tokyo :

GMO Miner B2 is launching on sale apparently at the end~ish of October this year,
Their new miner seems to boast a 7nm process ,more info to be added at a press conference on 6/6/2018 at a hotel over there,(consumption,hashrate,etcetera).
Designed and manufactured in Japan,that alone could tip the scales on the Chinese,cause those Shitmains are really really bad at quality,hopefully there`s some juice behind those statements.

On their site,some information can be found regarding some performance stats on their server blades that they mine with,apparently they want to also release a GPU-slot mining card that`s around 8TH with 300~ish W consumption 
If these figures turn out true,we might see 16nm processes go completely absolete ,cause these new performance stats look so so damn hot!!!
Gotta say ,that sounds pretty bloody interesting!

If we`ll get some shipped globally,fingers crossed,this might start the new hardware 7nm-Gen Rush (2019 early maybe ?)
MINE ON!

[kano]

I'm not exactly sure how anyone would believe marketing hype where a company says they can do something a LOT harder than what Intel, nVidia and AMD have yet to achieve with just CPUs and GPUs

I see no 10nm CPUs or GPUs in the near future, and Bitcoin mining is a lot more power intensive and thus a lot more difficult to manufacture workable chips.

Yet they're boasting jumping straight to 7nm ... ... ...

There's also google-able reasons (related to power issues) why there are no 10nm CPUs and GPUs yet