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[equipoise]

From the Monero missive:

Core: DNS checkpointing. This scans TXT records on the domains checkpoints.moneropulse.net/org/se/co every hour and, unless an enforce flag is set, notifies the user where checkpoints do not match.

https://forum.monero.cc/1/news-and-announcements/47/monday-monero-missives-13-october-6th-2014

I may be missing something, but this doesn't look decentralized to me.
Unless you want to define decentralization as the ability to choose between being notified vs. automatical enforcement.

You could add your own checkpoints in a text file with copy/paste the block hash and block height and those will be enforced on your local copy of the blockchain - no centralized authority is needed to do that so it's decentralized.

[YarkoL]

You could add your own checkpoints in a text file with copy/paste the block hash and block height and those will be enforced on your local copy of the blockchain - no centralized authority is needed to do that so it's decentralized.

Of course, and that is possible with just any coin.
Monero it's true makes checkpointing easier by not having to compile anything.

But still, that does not make away with the fact that there is an "official" list
produced centrally that is explicitly being compared with "alternative" checkpoint lists.

True decentralized checkpointing would be totally distributed like the block creation, and
that may be impossible.

[smooth]

But still, that does not make away with the fact that there is an "official" list
produced centrally that is explicitly being compared with "alternative" checkpoint lists.

What makes it decentralized is that if you don't like (or can't retrieve) our "official" list, it is easy to produce your own list, and distribute it. If people agree and your list is widely used, then it becomes the de facto official list. You don't need to fork the code, or even have the ability to compile it.

This moves the issue of checkpointing outside of the control of the priesthood of software developers (and especially of one specific developer or one team of developers) and into the hands of the community.

[NewLiberty]

From the Monero missive:

Core: DNS checkpointing. This scans TXT records on the domains checkpoints.moneropulse.net/org/se/co every hour and, unless an enforce flag is set, notifies the user where checkpoints do not match.

https://forum.monero.cc/1/news-and-announcements/47/monday-monero-missives-13-october-6th-2014

I may be missing something, but this doesn't look decentralized to me.
Unless you want to define decentralization as the ability to choose between being notified vs. automatical enforcement.

It offers both.
What you are looking at is a subsequent addition to make additional use of the innovation.
The files are local, so miners can update using their own scheme, or they can use a centralized solution.
Prior to this, it would take a recompile and code modification to accomplish this.  Miners now have a simple way to do it themselves.

[bitwho]

whoa. i didnt mean to open this can of warms.


I wanted to figure out if checkpoints was the only solution to the "attack" and nothing else was proposed. Some one later said that there is no attack/weakness.

So lets move on.

The checkpoint debate has been going on for yrs. There is plenty of topics that have discussed it and this is not fair to discuss it on here. I didn't mean for this thread to focus on it. Sorry. :/

Can we please move on from this topic? Almost every coin have checkpoints and its not relevant to solely discuss checkpoints effect here.

[rangedriver]

whoa. i didnt mean to open this can of warms.


I wanted to figure out if checkpoints was the only solution to the "attack" and nothing else was proposed. Some one later said that there is no attack/weakness.

So lets move on.

The checkpoint debate has been going on for yrs. There is plenty of topics that have discussed it and this is not fair to discuss it on here. I didn't mean for this thread to focus on it. Sorry. :/

Can we please move on from this topic? Almost every coin have checkpoints and its not relevant to solely discuss checkpoints effect here.

Yeh let's just close this can of warms already.

[jehst]

 Subscribed. I've been reading every post about XMR over the past few days. Just read the Cryptonote white paper today. Considering becoming a major holder.

[equipoise]

^This thread is started to harm Monero.

[NewLiberty]

^This thread is started to harm Monero.

Nah, Monero is not harm-able by this thread.
The code is increasingly solid, the technology is best of breed, now enters the web-wallet...  Its just beginning really.

This thread is just a bunch of bloviation and hubris with occasional sprinkles of insight.  It has no power to hurt or help Monero.

[BanditryAndLoot]

Not many coins have dedicated trolling threads

Look at the size of it!

[e-coinomist]

Not many coins have dedicated trolling threads

Look at the size of it!

Should adapt it as the general chit-chat talking thread. How did you liked the unified color scheme of the new wallet design?

[Quicken]

Should adapt it as the general chit-chat talking thread. How did you liked the unified color scheme of the new wallet design?

Which wallet? The web one?

Does anyone else think the Supernet logo looks disturbingly like the Monero one in terms of colors and style?

[BanditryAndLoot]

Should adapt it as the general chit-chat talking thread. How did you liked the unified color scheme of the new wallet design?

Which wallet? The web one?

Does anyone else think the Supernet logo looks disturbingly like the Monero one in terms of colors and style?

I was wondering which wallet as well.

Both Monero and Supernet logos look extremely similar to some other logo as well as being very similar in both scheme and structure .. I can't remember what it was, but remember some company's logo being posted at around the time we got this one.

[Quicken]

Should adapt it as the general chit-chat talking thread. How did you liked the unified color scheme of the new wallet design?

Which wallet? The web one?

Does anyone else think the Supernet logo looks disturbingly like the Monero one in terms of colors and style?

I was wondering which wallet as well.

Both Monero and Supernet logos look extremely similar to some other logo as well as being very similar in both scheme and structure .. I can't remember what it was, but remember some company's logo being posted at around the time we got this one.

OK, probably coincidence. I'm not really up on branding in general.

[smooth]

Not many coins have dedicated trolling threads

Look at the size of it!

Should adapt it as the general chit-chat talking thread. How did you liked the unified color scheme of the new wallet design?

It has been that. There was a lot of trolling here but also a lot of general conversation about the technology and cryptography.

[Febo]

Should adapt it as the general chit-chat talking thread. How did you liked the unified color scheme of the new wallet design?

Which wallet? The web one?

Does anyone else think the Supernet logo looks disturbingly like the Monero one in terms of colors and style?

I was wondering which wallet as well.

Both Monero and Supernet logos look extremely similar to some other logo as well as being very similar in both scheme and structure .. I can't remember what it was, but remember some company's logo being posted at around the time we got this one.

OK, probably coincidence. I'm not really up on branding in general.

MAybe same designer made them. I noticed that also. Same colours.

[Este Nuno]

https://forum.thesupernet.org/index.php?topic=15.0

Here you can see the evolution of the SuperNET logo. That particular one and those colours were voted on.

While there are some similarities, personally I don't think they're too significant. The colours are similar but not the same. The shape and curvature is completely different. Fonts are different. The letters separating the two colours is a similar concept but the overall feel of the two logos is quite different imo.

Could have been some subconscious influence or something but from the way it worked out in that thread it just seems like the colours that got voted on happened to be similar.

[arnuschky]

https://forum.thesupernet.org/index.php?topic=15.0

Here you can see the evolution of the SuperNET logo. That particular one and those colours were voted on.

Here you can see nothing, because this forum is off limits to you.

[smoothie]

It's just a bear market. Not the death of monero. A great opportunity to buy lots of cheap coins.

That's the same statement said when it dropped from .0043 to .0039 and again when it fell below .0030.

It's been on a steady decent since peaking in September.

The graph doesn't lie.


~BCX~

Whatever happened to your monero-killing exploit?

Also why did you run away from the discussion of it back in October?

Lol

 

I didn't go any where and there was a reason I halted. If you follow a few of threads you would know why.

But at any rate allow me to post the following.


In March I called Auroracoin and met the the almost identical responses I did to Monero.

I was right about Auroracoin and I am right about Monero.


~BCX~



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877108.msg9693792#msg9693792

LOL you conveniently left at the time of YOUR OWN 22 day deadline in October. lol In fact you left the forums entirely not logging into your account for at least a few weeks nor posting for a few weeks.

Just because you were supposedly "right" about aurora coin doesn't mean anything as you also called an attack on Litecoin which you yourself failed to manifest then ran away from when you could not and did not deliver your promised attack.

This is just like you did when you promised your 22-day prep monero-killing exploit you were going to unleash on all of us then conveniently ran away from the discussion when your deadline you set came and went and nothing but hot air remained after you left.

Please save us all of your bullshit. Thanks  

What I expect you to do is not address any of what I said above and just deflect and avoid the obvious fail you have demonstrated to all of us watching. Typical BCX style.  

[BanditryAndLoot]

https://forum.thesupernet.org/index.php?topic=15.0

Here you can see the evolution of the SuperNET logo. That particular one and those colours were voted on.

Here you can see nothing, because this forum is off limits to you.

Newsletter 8 has a different header ... with a different color scheme. Are they changing it?