The Truth About Monero's Risto Pietila (rpietila XMR) - warning

[From Above]

Walls of Text TL;DR:
Monero's front face and largest investor rpietila was in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki in 2013 because of a mental breakdown, he also predicted 1 Million USD per Bitcoin by the end of 2013.

Don't believe the Psycho-Risto's words when hes trying to suck u into the Monero XMR scheme by tellin' u that its gonna rise high this year and going to the moon in the long term (risto predicts 35 Billion marketcap of XMR). Obviously it won't - and he knows this very well. WARNING. All that guy want is to make a buck on u... thats all he wants, he dont care about anything other than that.

He was posting that as evidence that everything was running as planned, not trying to make false claims.

It is sad that this thread has turned to be worship of me, but since the matter has surfaced:

The Haikko conference for me was more like a dream.

That's a lie, it was a nightmare for you!

http://paste.ee/p/nv6e1#ETTSpaJkqv5t4RM4kJ2vh9qw6kieSf8z

You legitimately tried to sue the hotel for 10 million euros ~100,000 BTC at the time
because you forgot your laptop in the sauna and the staff were walking around
You suspected the staff members of hacking you, you suspected the other attendees of conspiring against you.
you went CRAZY. bonkers crazy.
you were then taken into pyschiatric ward in finland shortly afterwards against your own will. literally had no shoelaces and no access to sharp cutlery for your own safety.

I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki.

(archive: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/rpietila-public-diary.103436/page-9#post-2051436)

The meeting with the doctor ended in a mutual agreement that I am too manic to continue posting on this forum. As is obvious, harsh measures are needed to prevent me from doing it. For some reason they did not want to just prohibit it. I think it is a part of the care, though. The degrees of freedom must indeed be reduced, to achieve the calm submission to the realities of the outside world. Amen. I submit.

(archive: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/rpietila-public-diary.103436/page-9#post-2063428)

that was your manic phase. 1 million USD per BTC phase. Now you tell everyone the same old shit with XMR- that it will reach few thousand dollars.. 35 biillion dollar market cap? you are crazy.

I don't hate you for your issues, but warn investors to be careful. You wouldn't take trading advice from a schizophrenic bum on the street, so don't do it on forums

~CfA~

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[From Above]

rpetila actually predicted 1 Million USD per Bitcoin by the end of 2013. (later he backed out and predicted $300,000. Don't be silly what he said was much worse.

The 10-30% weekly increase in adoption (weekly % growth of the # of bitcoin users), will turn this discussion completely ridiculous before the end of this month:
January: 10, February: 20, March: 40, April: 80, May: 160, ... December 20480.
Even the above contains more valuable advice than most said in this thread, although it is public knowledge that this kind of behaviour cannot just increase exponentially. It will go parabolic, crash, and repeat. Not only I believe it will go to $1M this year, I have not heard very many good arguments from anyone, what can hinder it  

I am a perma-bull like you, but you are really overstating the trend!
It is indicating $200 by the end of 2013, $500 by May next year and $1000 at the end of next year. Still fantastic growth  

XMR looks really strong in the market. I've been accumulating the past 5 days and seen with my own eyes the buy support grow from 60 to 300+ btc. Meanwhile the price is only up less than 50% from the bottom and still less than the average over time.

It is easy to see a continued uptrend from here.

Monero price is not cheap even now, but it will not stay this cheap for long

we're NOT hitting $1 Million this year.

Holders will be too horny not to Profit take and make a lot of money before the price is anywhere near $1,000,000

Only about 1.5 million bitcoins in speculative (fiat-denominated) hands now. All the rest are owned by the likes of me, I am not selling any bitcoins below the long term realistic value of $300k/BTC (except in anticipation of a correction and purchase of more bitcoins).

Guess what, he sold well before that (600 dollars is a way of from 300 thousand dollars, no guys?? ) to by real-estate to refurbish.

~CfA~

[othe]

just one link:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

[robinwilliams]

who the FREAK cares?!

if a person takes the word for antoher person then they will lose money.

i am starting to like monero but rpiella does more damage than good to it by pumping the price to more than what it should be.  it might be worth $600 some day ... but he has no "insider information"

god i would like to have unlimited access to cuban cigars though ... maybe i should start kissing butt and he'd invite me to the castle

(PS the only reason this whole fcking forum hasn't been in a psyc ward is cuz people are either posting from there, in prison or they haven't been found to be insane yet)

Edit:  If ur looking at this rptellia - ignore it.  i don't give a shit about your coin predictions 'cuz i think your worshipers are stupid and you give urself too much credit.  i also think this dude is a whackamole and we could all probably use some help ... we just havne't been exposed to whatever stress u were exposed to

[From Above]

~CfA~

[robinwilliams]

lol whack-a-mole is jealous of a pink car 

sorry ur still living in ur moms basement bro

[J1mb0]

I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki.

I think that is quite normal in Finland. Also to get so drunk that you wet yourself whilst at work.
He probably had a lot of fun there.
Whilst I do not subscribe to his love of Monero I would not hold the above against him or let it cloud my judgement of him!  

[oliveforever]

My greatest contribution to bitcoin economy was the calculation that 1 Bitcoin is worth $300,000 U.S. Dollars

That suddenly became this

The most egregious prediction I actually have made, is the belief that Bitcoin would reach $300,000 by the end of 2013. Because I believed this myself, I went nearly all-in when the price was $100, and sold a few months later to buy a castle and other nice things. So I was wrong with the number but right on the timing.

Now we have this (notice similarities and inconsistencies?) Did he buy at $3 like he said there? $10, like he said otherwise, or $100 like he said above? - Also about him being present in 2010- Complete lie.

I thought about investing a few months, and when decided to invest, the high price delayed it an additional few months. Bought in starting at $3 and made my first meaningful exit at $675, trading here and there.

Currently I am more interested in Monero, though. Monero makes me feel like Bitcoin in 2010, tons of potential and a $6MM market cap. I actually was there so I can compare the feeling. It will become really big, 1000x gain just to match what Bitcoin is now.

http://barnapkinmemoirs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/picard-facepalm.jpg

You could not make this shit up...

Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true    )

What do you think he will do? Same as he did before which pre-emptively dump on all the noobs who were suckered into his honeytrap and insane predictions backed up by nothing more than fantasy and wishes. Already we have a small army of bagholders.

  The man is unstable, infesting the altcoin subsection with his latest cashgrab. Fluffypony, mircea popescu's asslicking troll buddy, watch out for these disinformation merchants also. Do not believe for a second they do not have sustained paid PR campaign on this forum.

[infofront]

just one link:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

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[whap]

the car is white btw, pic was photoshoped, here's the story behind it

It's not fair for you to post that picture and claim that he was trying to pass off that car as his own. The context was he was running a summit that people had paid BTC to attend and that was the hotel's car that would be picking people up. He was posting that as evidence that everything was running as planned, not trying to make false claims.

It would also be very interesting to get a psychiatrist's opinion on CfA's mental conditions. Why does someone waste so much of precious lifetime and ressources only trying to expose and make fun of literally unknown, pseudonymic people?

Internet is the diseased speaking trumpet of mutilated, nonreflective minds, and when there's money in play you finally land here. It's nice!

[Nxtblg]

Whilst I do not subscribe to his love of Monero I would not hold the above against him or let it cloud my judgement of him!  

Heck, if you're a fan of One-Flew-Over-The-Cuckoo's-Nest type of stories, you could bang out one about a nutter plopped in an insane asylum who buys $1,000' worth of Bitcoin in 2010 and winds up owning the institution after buying it on the sly...

[damiano]

Those who are apart of the speculation side of the forum know all about this.

[othe]

It would also be very interesting to get a psychiatrist's opinion on CfA's mental conditions.

This.

This.

~CfA~

This.

Please look in my signature for more information about your disease.

[Mrrr]

I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki.

I think that is quite normal in Finland. Also to get so drunk that you wet yourself whilst at work.
He probably had a lot of fun there.
Whilst I do not subscribe to his love of Monero I would not hold the above against him or let it cloud my judgement of him!  

This is the first sensible reply I seen on the alt boards all day.

[J1mb0]

I am currently detained in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki.

I think that is quite normal in Finland. Also to get so drunk that you wet yourself whilst at work.
He probably had a lot of fun there.
Whilst I do not subscribe to his love of Monero I would not hold the above against him or let it cloud my judgement of him!  

This is the first sensible reply I seen on the alt boards all day.

ROFL - I thank you Sir! 

[nutildah]

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"

-Obi Wan Kenobi

[fluffypony]

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"

-Obi Wan Kenobi

Please note that new forum rules indicate that posts like yours must be signed with tildes around a 3-character representation of your nickname that adheres to the uppercase-lowercase-uppercase casing rule.

~FpY~

[nutildah]

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"

-Obi Wan Kenobi

Please note that new forum rules indicate that posts like yours must be signed with tildes around a 3-character representation of your nickname that adheres to the uppercase-lowercase-uppercase casing rule.

~FpY~

Oh my bad.

~OwK~

[BlackWidow]

Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true    )

What do you think he will do? Same as he did before which pre-emptively dump on all the noobs who were suckered into his honeytrap and insane predictions backed up by nothing more than fantasy and wishes. Already we have a small army of bagholders.

  The man is unstable, infesting the altcoin subsection with his latest cashgrab. Fluffypony, mircea popescu's asslicking troll buddy, watch out for these disinformation merchants also. Do not believe for a second they do not have sustained paid PR campaign on this forum.

This now makes sense why all of the Bitcoin people are behind Monero.. they see how many already are investing into altcoins now they want their part of the pie.

Now imagine what would happen if XMR would have a price of 100$ or 1000$ and some Hackers would just use the exploit/bug BCX was speaking about. Would be a perfect excuse why the coin was dumped in the first place and sending all Cryptonote coins into abyss.... while Bitcoin would stay high as a king.

Cryptonote is flawed people, get over it, many respected devs and people have said so

[Spoetnik]

who the FREAK cares?!

if a person takes the word for antoher person then they will lose money.

doing nothing and letting people get ripped off from a lunatic and his collection of shell accounts here is not exactly classy business.
why is it so hard to get this through your thick heads ?
i just had to say this on two topics back to back.. we have pathetic scammers saying so what screw em .. mind your own business.
i think i know who is sick in the fucking head when you have to actually explain why bad things are bad to greedy Monero bag holders  

screw em ?

i agree.. screw the bag holders that invested in a bad scam.
quit doing it !

i care about the new guy that comes along and gets fed lies so he can be drained dry of Bitcoin or Fiat
not the greedy little pricks who sit around here jumping from scheme to scheme hoping to turn a profit on anything they can invest in.

hey guess what ? Bad things are bad !
I know right.. who'd thunk it ?
And here is another revelation.. turning a blind eye to robbery so you get a slice of the pie is not too classy.
oh and the mind your own business retort is just as much as a fail excuse as it ever was.. no matter how many times it's posted here year after year.

get a job kids or get your ass's in to the loony bin and get psych help.

[Spoetnik]

even worse is the guy came here and said his first Altcoin was Monero.. end of story LOL

[nutildah]

i care about the new guy that comes along and gets fed lies so he can be drained dry of Bitcoin or Fiat
not the greedy little pricks who sit around here jumping from scheme to scheme hoping to turn a profit on anything they can invest in.

Hey see, we have something in common. We should team up. I have some ideas for Operation Shitcoin Cleanup.

In one way this arena is just "survival of the fittest" on hyperthrottle, in another I don't want to live in a society where criminals run free and peoples' value as humans is tied to the amount of wealth they possess.

I do remember reading previous threads where both you and BCX were ambivalent-to-positive about Monero at one point, but I understand opinions can and do change.

[From Above]

even worse is the guy came here and said his first Altcoin was Monero.. end of story LOL

+1 yeah

~CfA~

[Spoetnik]

even worse is the guy came here and said his first Altcoin was Monero.. end of story LOL

+1 yeah

~CfA~

you have posted some rather interesting info many times on some of the key Monero players.
i think your good at digging up info on guys LOL

[From Above]

I just think its pretty sad. I've even heard people slagging off members of the XMR team for spending time in a mental hospital. It's sick, but the irony is people aren't stupid. They're not falling for this shit.

u say the xmr guys/slaves arent falling for the cold truth that dem risto guy(s) has mental issues? its the facts tho ...

~CfA~

[Spoetnik]

I want to start a big topic with links to all these guys picture in crypto and we can start with Monero guys !

a who's who topic.. where we can list their alias's and then have a pic of them beside their name !
a Super Doxx topic of sorts

[nutildah]

Yet people actually keep on taking Ristos advice... I guess this speaks volumes about the effectiveness of his and Monero in general's brainwashing tactics... they did quite a good job.

[MicroGuy]

~CfA~

The sun in the upper-right corner of his document was a nice touch.  

[nutildah]

Hey Risto,

Is this your Dad?

https://fi.linkedin.com/pub/risto-pietil%C3%A4/59/3a5/16b

So as an Oil & Energy tycoon and the manager of profit centers, he gave you no money towards your silver company and BTC investments?

Let me guess, you raised all your capital yourself flipping burgers at Finnish McDonald's?

You're the real American Dream in action alright, just like Donald Chump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

The only other Risto P is a geologist -- neither one seems to come from very humble beginnings...

[kelsey]

~CfA~

The sun in the upper-right corner of his document was a nice touch.  

+1
even matching the suns true location at the time of the shot....nice 

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Hey Risto,

Is this your Dad?

https://fi.linkedin.com/pub/risto-pietil%C3%A4/59/3a5/16b

So as an Oil & Energy tycoon and the manager of profit centers, he gave you no money towards your silver company and BTC investments?

Let me guess, you raised all your capital yourself flipping burgers at Finnish McDonald's?

You're the real American Dream in action alright, just like Donald Chump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

The only other Risto P is a geologist -- neither one seems to come from very humble beginnings...

I'm a bit confused as to what your point is (and the point of this thread). Are you saying Risto's involvement in Monero is a good/bad thing? Isn't the purpose of decentralized money the idea that anyone is free to use it?

[NEMaSCAM]

His backstory is unlikely or a fraud at best.  Claims he started an investment silver company (like none had existed prior in Finland?) and apparently people were retarded enough to give him money to live at a luxurious lifestyle. . .    

It is a requirement for presidential candidates to release a financial disclosure.  Pietila is like a politician and thus should disclose his financials going back 10 years.  Let's see how much he made off his "business" and how much he made off Bitcoin.




More like he had a silver company which only existed on a webpage and he rode on the price of BTC.  He admitted himself he got involved with Bitcoin in 2011 and that meant he bought at $1, buying some 4 to 5 figure amount, and later sold at $600-$1200.  That is why he had a panic attack and a vacation to the asylum during that one time Bitcoin boomed up and then came crashing down.


He doesn't want to admit he's another Roger Ver, someone who owes their entire existence to Bitcoin going up.

Now it is obvious Pietila sold most of his BTC, no longer has any income coming in, and started Monero scam to squeeze money from people.

[DaveyJones]

Hey Risto,

Is this your Dad?

https://fi.linkedin.com/pub/risto-pietil%C3%A4/59/3a5/16b

So as an Oil & Energy tycoon and the manager of profit centers, he gave you no money towards your silver company and BTC investments?

Let me guess, you raised all your capital yourself flipping burgers at Finnish McDonald's?

You're the real American Dream in action alright, just like Donald Chump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

The only other Risto P is a geologist -- neither one seems to come from very humble beginnings...

Hey monkeycharger or whatever your poloniex name was atleast you unveiled yourself finaly after being banned cause you are not able to give a proper discussion

[Crestington]

I want to start a big topic with links to all these guys picture in crypto and we can start with Monero guys !

a who's who topic.. where we can list their alias's and then have a pic of them beside their name !
a Super Doxx topic of sorts

Hey, that's a great idea!

Did you know I live in the same city as you do, we can take a picture together!

[rangedriver]

Hey Risto,

Is this your Dad?

https://fi.linkedin.com/pub/risto-pietil%C3%A4/59/3a5/16b

So as an Oil & Energy tycoon and the manager of profit centers, he gave you no money towards your silver company and BTC investments?

Let me guess, you raised all your capital yourself flipping burgers at Finnish McDonald's?

You're the real American Dream in action alright, just like Donald Chump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

The only other Risto P is a geologist -- neither one seems to come from very humble beginnings...

Another random hateful post from Nutildah - the failed neuroscientist.

I've just been following the James Holmes movie theater trial. He was a failed neuroscientist too, which according to the prosecution was a central reason why he became a mass murdering fuckhead.

I hope you don't turn out like this Nutildah. I mean I understand it must be pretty humiliating for you to be a failed neuroscientist working a dead-end job with an income that barely covers your outgoings, but I wouldn't want you to become a mass murdering fuckhead.

I suggest therapy if you can afford it. Either way, please try to keep the bitterness and hate to yourself, because here it only serves to humiliate you further.

And please, no matter how low you feel when reflecting upon your intellectual inabilities and general ineptitudes as a failed neuroscientist, whatever you do please try to resist becoming a mass murdering fuckhead.

Thanks.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I highly doubt that is his father. I believe his backstory of being poor(or at least as poor as someone is going to be in somewhere like Finland).

[Nxtblg]

Walls of Text TL;DR:
Monero's front face and largest investor rpietila was in a psychiatric institution in Helsinki in 2013 because of a mental breakdown, he also predicted 1 Million USD per Bitcoin by the end of 2013.

You should try comparing his prediction to the enthused predictions for the Internet at the height of the dotcom bubble in late 1999. Methinks you'll find that Risto was a "crowd of one."

[nutildah]

Hey monkeycharger or whatever your poloniex name was atleast you unveiled yourself finaly after being banned cause you are not able to give a proper discussion

Actually I did this specifically because I said I would do my own research. And I did. And Risto comes from a rich family, like it or not. He does not come from a family of poor farmers like you claimed.

Even if he did buy BTC in the single-dollar range, he was born on 3rd base, now he goes around telling everybody he hit a grand slam. So, he's a liar and a con artist, obsessed with pretending he is royalty of sorts. This is likely to overcompensate for other shortcomings in his life.

And this is as far as my obsession will go. I seemed to have kicked up the hornets nest enough as it is.

[foold]

There are few rich families in Finland. Lots of middle-class, but not so many rich families, not like in the US, UK, Switzerland, and the wee little places like Monoco.

Finland is like a more miserable version of Brave New World.


BUT ... mental illness is not something to be used as an advantage, especially the bold, red headline approach.

[generalizethis]

There are few rich families in Finland. Lots of middle-class, but not so many rich families, not like in the US, UK, Switzerland, and the wee little places like Monoco.

Finland is like a more miserable version of Brave New World.


BUT ... mental illness is not something to be used as an advantage, especially the bold, red headline approach.

If we dismissed people out-of-hand because of their bouts with depression, mania, schizophrenia, then the world would lose a great collection of artist, mathematicians, philosophers, poets, musicians and trailblazers extraordinaire. Pushing your mind to dangerous and new places has never been for the feint of heart or for those who continually bend over backwards to stay within the unridiculed confines of the average, so appreciate the gifts of madness and the fruits of that dangerous labor.

“Courage consists, however, in agreeing to flee rather than live tranquilly and hypocritically in false refuges. Values, morals, homelands, religions, and these private certitudes that our vanity and our complacency bestow generously on us, have many deceptive sojourns as the world arranges for those who think they are standing straight and at ease, among stable things”
― Gilles Deleuze, Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia

[foold]

There are few rich families in Finland. Lots of middle-class, but not so many rich families, not like in the US, UK, Switzerland, and the wee little places like Monoco.

Finland is like a more miserable version of Brave New World.


BUT ... mental illness is not something to be used as an advantage, especially the bold, red headline approach.

If we dismissed people out-of-hand because of their bouts with depression, mania, schizophrenia, then the world would lose a great collection of artist, mathematicians, philosophers, poets, musicians and trailblazers extraordinaire. Pushing your mind to dangerous and new places has never been for the feint of heart or for those who continually bend over backwards to stay within the unridiculed confines of the average, so appreciate the gifts of madness and the fruits of that dangerous labor.

“Courage consists, however, in agreeing to flee rather than live tranquilly and hypocritically in false refuges. Values, morals, homelands, religions, and these private certitudes that our vanity and our complacency bestow generously on us, have many deceptive sojourns as the world arranges for those who think they are standing straight and at ease, among stable things”
― Gilles Deleuze, Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia

I agree, I'm not sure if you think I said mental illness is a being used by people to gain an advantage, or that people should not use fallacious arguments and suggest mental illness somehow disqualifies people from being taken seriously.

I meant the latter.

Mental illness as a concept  is often a construction by terminally boring people (crypto has the most boring people imaginable, and the greediest). When not, it can be a doorway to a world that ordinary people never open, even when they are tripping.

100% or 0%, now that is trip.

[HCLivess]

Thanks. I completely miss the point why rptelia is so famous. I mean the only thing I've seen from him is the altcoin investment post. Is he some kind of an early-early adopter gone crazy?

[rdnkjdi]

Thanks. I completely miss the point why rptelia is so famous. I mean the only thing I've seen from him is the altcoin investment post. Is he some kind of an early-early adopter gone crazy?

He was an early adopter for bitcoin & calling the rise before others.  I believe he got his initial $$ for investment from dealing in precious medals as a seller.

He owns a castle in Estonia (I think) where bitcoin events / think tanks are held.  He's also interested in Monero.  

He was/is fairly high profile in the bitcoin speculation section of the forum I believe.  He & Anonymint were friends.  I believe David Lapite (however that's spelled) worked for him for a while.

Also he likes good cigars.  His attitude gets on my nerves sometimes - but he's been more successful than most of us when it comes to crypto.

[nutildah]

- but he's been more successful than most of us when it comes to crypto.

If you include believing the story that he bought bitcoins in the single-dollar range, then yes, that would put him above most of us.

Otherwise, he's probably lost a shit ton more money than most of us are likely to ever have, and the point was, a large % of it comes from family wealth anyway. He just gets on my nerves with his neverending technical analysis prophesizing when,

A. he doesn't have 1 single actual clue of what he's talking about
B. he's the one moving the market when he does

[Hong Kong]

He's a shady dude

[Spoetnik]

He's a shady dude

I had commented on a topic of his before where i highlighted his lust for money and belongings.
He has a chip on his should because of his "Riches"
And i too suspect he has had family hand some of it handed too him.

Where as i started with a nothing at all from anyone and have had to sink or swim over & over.
And i am one hell of a cocky bastard because i have been tested time after time
and i always win !

It's not about what is in your hand.
It's about demonstrating you have the SKILLS needed to have your hand full when ever you want.

No matter how hard i have fallen or how bad things have gotten i raise to the top like a bubble of air in water.
So i know i have a skill set that has served me well.. from earning lumps of cash or prizes
..to averting death !
I have always won..

I had said to Risto before what are they going to remember about you when your dead & gone one day ?
Getting smug in Crypto because you had a big wad of cash will impress no one.

I started here as a challenge ..i seen this stuff and i thought ok let's do it ..let's makes some money.
And just as i started to turn ZERO DOLLARS invested into around 12k usd
I seen the trend.. the death of the Altcoin scene ..i predicted it LOUDLY and cashed out fast !
My predictions were laser accurate and proven.. Risto's was NOT.
I could have pressed on still trying but that would have been the foolish decision to make.
I sold it all off and i have no regrets and i proved to myself i could turn absolutely nothing what so ever into a fortune..

AGAIN

I also mentioned to Risto i started my first business at 16 yrs old and was working a full time job in grade 8 when i dropped out to get more work hours.
I sold off the business for a lump of cash (Sports card trading at shows etc across Canada)
Then i missed the game.. and i went the corner store and bought a pack of cards
and shortly after i had another god damn business going (in my early 20's)

Later i ended up by accident starting a computer repair business and was self employed for about 5 years.

This is not about bragging it's about your skill-set and abilities.

I have been thrown on the street homeless and laughed my ass off about.
I had people telling me WOW your mighty chipper and happy being on the street.
And i said yuppers.. see of i care ..shit happens ..boo hoo ..who gives a shit !
Did not take me long to get back on my feet just as i knew i would.
I am a fucking soldier and i take no shit and i *intend* on winning.
If i want it it's mine !

Like my hot ex-girlfriend no one could believe i was living with while back LOL

So risto..
He has some money does he ?
Does he have "skills" ?

I turned 0.0000001 Feathercoin's into $12,000.00 usd by trading on Cryptsy etc.
I invested nothing and bought no hardware and had no stocks / trading experience etc.
NOTHING invested and not even power costs for some mining.. PURE Profit !

How did that jack ass get his "wealth" ?
I bet all of you he "fell into it"

Anyway i don't hold anything against him for Mental Illness..
but it's a valid point to provide context on post comments here.
There is different types of mental problems so it can very much indeed be relevant to the discussions here.
And don't want it brought up ? Then don't mention it. (he came here and said it himself)

He should just go back to working on getting his band back together again..
Smashing Pumpkins reunion tour ? Hell yes do a "Siamese Dream" tour !
Sadly i lent out my Gish CD when it came out way back (i knew that little chicky was not going to give it back)

Risto = Billy Corgan
It's all making sense now isn't it guys LOL

EDIT:
I could have made 120k instead of 12k if i was willing to get scammy like many of you.
So i think i did it legit with some credibility and honesty.. not supporting scam coins for profit.
And pertaining to Risto all i can think of his "profits"
Is.. how much did he have already that he used to invest ?
It's not the same saying you ALREADY had a MILLION dollars to go investing with.
Vs. me who had literally no cents and no dollars to use..
..he is not in my league by a long shot.

[KLONE]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

[generalizethis]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

I think this is a screenshot from the game.

[Spoetnik]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

I was told by him word for word he made thousands of dollars off you assholes from it.
So..... he keeps doing it again.

Then when caught spending the donators MEW funds he makes up a little bullshit story
about it being for "adoption" reasons.. and i quote.. "a powerful adoption asset"
But in reality it was a scam.. a ponzi scheme forum game with a bonus.
The bonus is putting the keyword Monero all over and then thinking your being crafty
..and not spamming.
Even after he admitted it.. what does an adoption asset mean ?
ADVERTISING.
What did i do ?
I clicked report.. for ADVERTISING.
He admitted it.
My report was denied and the spamming continues.........

And you Morono's CONTINUE to act dumb about it.

Did Risto get permission from anyone to do his forum game here ?
Nope.
Was he a part of the team ?
Nope.
How did we find out ?
Donators asked where their money went and why the guy holding the money vanished for months.
David Latapie.
He surfaced after hiding for 2 months with a shitload of French Police drama
..and the biggest apology ever seen online. (who wants to bet Risto was involved with that Fraud drama ?)
AND HE WAS THE MEW DONATION MONEY "TREASURER"
So people asked.. where the fuck is he and where is our money ?
RISTO replied back as though he was a TEAM MEMBER saying he spent the money DAVID was holding.
Then cried Troll for even having to answer the fucking question to his supporters asking.
How dare they even ask where the money went.. the nerve of the little peasants huh ?
He should have said i am KING RISTO bow to my glory assholes and be silent !
So what do these retards do ?
Smooth runs in and tries to do damage control and starts this little vote to give back the donated money.
Because it was never used with or with out permission for what it was intended / collected for.
Like this some how makes Risto's + David's shenanigans acceptable after the fact.

Amazing how 2 guys they say are NOT a part of the team ..CONTROL THE COIN.

It's King Risto Coin !
who lives in his castle and has a pink Bentley and shitloads of Monero being bag held.
His little peon French lacky David Latapie have ties that go waaay back i hear too.
Kind of funny how these guys have managed to sink their grubby mitts into the coin so deeply.

David went back into hiding as he said he would.. probably in jail for Fraud by the French Police.
While these other morono's run around doing more damage control *as usual* ..PLAYING DUMB of course.

[Shrikez]

just to clarify I received my MEW funds on request immediately.

[Spoetnik]

just to clarify I received my MEW funds on request immediately.

Think about it....... why do the funds have to be given back IN THE FIRST PLACE ?

Does that NOT ring any alarm bells ?

That is like saying hey i was ripped off and screwed around but... hey it's all cool bro i got my money back MONTHS later.


Like gimma a fucking break Morono's  

Morono Rule no. 1 = NEVER admit anything !

[GetVisaCoin]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

I was told by him word for word he made thousands of dollars off you assholes from it.
So..... he keeps doing it again.

where is your proof of this claim?

[Spoetnik]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

I was told by him word for word he made thousands of dollars off you assholes from it.
So..... he keeps doing it again.

where is your proof of this claim?

Who the fuck are you and why do i need to prove shit all ?

I can, but i won't.

Believe me or not your choice.

PS:
Polonibox is your friend

[Shrikez]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

I was told by him word for word he made thousands of dollars off you assholes from it.
So..... he keeps doing it again.

where is your proof of this claim?

Who the fuck are you and why do i need to prove shit all ?

I can, but i won't.

Believe me or not your choice.

PS:
Polonibox is your friend

I think the real question is: Who the fuck are you?

You are one of the "guilty until proven innocent" guys hm? FUD first, ask questions later.

Find a shrink bud.

[smooth]

just to clarify I received my MEW funds on request immediately.

Think about it....... why do the funds have to be given back IN THE FIRST PLACE ?

Because that was exactly the rules agreed upon when the organization was formed, and then a vote was taken to disband. The coins were all refunded.

Does that NOT ring any alarm bells ?

No, everything being done as originally agreed does not ring any alarm bells.

It really sticks in your craw that everything was done by the book doesn't it? Meaning you have nothing except your made up nonsense.

What does ring alarm bells is your highly disturbed behavior.

[Dafar]

rpietila was still an early adopter of BTC though... what if he's right about XMR?

[N-rG]

rpietila was still an early adopter of BTC though... what if he's right about XMR?

I say he is right 75/25. Just the date was wrong

[adhitthana]

If we dismissed people out-of-hand because of their bouts with depression, mania, schizophrenia, then the world would lose a great collection of artist, mathematicians, philosophers, poets, musicians and trailblazers extraordinaire.

+1

[Spoetnik]

He's a shady dude

His Crypto Kingdom monopoly/Civilisation game is a pretty cool invention. Game engine is quite detailed and well designed.

His "Game" was a forum advertisement i reported as spam when he posted it.
Later he admitted it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg12705034#msg12705034

Ask him who was in hiding paid to work on it for him..
And who just so happened to be the MEW treasurer holding the funds he spent with out permission.
And ask him why the French Police had a chat with his employee and about the Monero Advertising company.

These dickheads have lots to hide LOL

[iamnotback]

My recent message to rpietila:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg16768984#msg16768984

[Spoetnik]

My recent message to rpietila:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg16768984#msg16768984

Well said and fairly concise.. agreed !
I of course liked the part where you talked about Monero and the cult that surrounds it.

[iamnotback]

rpietila wrote a message about his relatives (including his father and wife) thought he was crazy for talking about the Finish system being out to get him and the death threats he had received. And were advising him to go get some mental evaluation. He escaped to his castle in Estonia to reflect. He asked publicly what he should do and I responded as follows. Sorry I don't believe in deleting what we've already written (unless it was a premediated plan before it was written). I don't appreciate my effort being censored!

The link to my post was:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg16788821#msg16788821

He also deleted his post from this thread and replaced it with this one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg16791153#msg16791153

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Risto, I presume it is okay if I offer my thoughts publicly since you've asked publicly.

It appears to me that regardless of the veracity of the clandestine, surreptitious threats you claim, and despite the fact that your relatives may be unwilling to acknowledge such veracity and thus willing to make life worse by committing you to mental institutions which may make everything worse for you, that there is some element of truth to the claim that you are mentally unstable. I am speaking from first hand experience of what being mentally unstable entails.

First of all, a sane person would assess his situation and take responsibility for the predicament he is, rather than blaming it on the system. Employing the Bible and visualizing yourself as a righteous martyr is the beginning of insanity because it then enables one absolve to themselves of responsibility for their demise due to their own actions.

Why are you wasting your life in activism in a morass in the first place? Even Jesus explained that he expended his time with the prostitutes because that is where the low hanging fruit was for saving souls. If the Europeans are happy with their devolution then why are you trying to ram your idealism down their throats.

I noticed my problems got worse from 2006 onwards when I "embraced" the Bible. I realize now it was an excuse to blame my predicament on circumstances rather than looking at decisions I could have made which would have made those circumstances less likely to come about.

It seems to me that you've lost your purpose. You are wandering aimlessly with the only purpose being to fight against everyone and then wallow in your devolution because of that decision.

Grab yourself by your bootstraps and entirely reorder your thought process back towards sanity. This is not easy to do. For me it has involved grueling exercise and getting off the damn computer and get out into the real life. You and I are different in that I originally am a very simple person from the south of the USA who is content with sweating in the hot New Orleans summers. Very much into athletics. I don't smoke cigars, dream of being a royal blood with a King Arthur's court. You seem to have something in your childhood or culture that drives you towards the predicament you are in.

You are a good person. You want good things for humanity. Yet the way you visualize making it happen appears to me to be delusional.

I am just being frank because I am hoping for the best for you, so perhaps the best I can do is be frank. I may be ignorant of some of the issues in your life and thus I may not have the correct understanding of your situation.


I would suggest you stop isolating yourself in a castle in Estonia. I would suggest you stop doing these bizarre activities. That doesn't mean I think you should necessarily conform to what those in Finland want you to do. They may also be in a slow motion devolution and not realize it. I am just hoping you can find your sanity and be social. But if you keep surrounding yourself with people who reinforce your delusions, then you will likely continue to devolve.

You should be able to interface with a wide diversity of people, not just those who want to name themselves some silly goat name for a gaming culture in the genre of King Arthur's court.

Real life man. Get back in touch with it. It is not in some isolated castle in Estonia.

[generalizethis]

rpietila wrote a message about his relatives (including his father and wife) thought he was crazy for talking about the Finish system being out to get him and the death threats he had received. And were advising him to go get some mental evaluation. He escaped to his castle in Estonia to reflect. He asked publicly what he should do and I responded as follows. Sorry I don't believe in deleting what we've already written. I don't appreciate my effort being censored!

The link to my post was:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg16788821#msg16788821

He also deleted his post from this thread and replaced it with this one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg16791153#msg16791153

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Risto, I presume it is okay if I offer my thoughts publicly since you've asked publicly.

It appears to me that regardless of the veracity of the clandestine, surreptitious threats you claim, and despite the fact that your relatives may be unwilling to acknowledge such veracity and thus willing to make life worse by committing you to mental institutions which may make everything worse for you, that there is some element of truth to the claim that you are mentally unstable. I am speaking from first hand experience of what being mentally unstable entails.

First of all, a sane person would assess his situation and take responsibility for the predicament he is, rather than blaming it on the system. Employing the Bible and visualizing yourself as a righteous martyr is the beginning of insanity because it then enables one absolve to themselves of responsibility for their demise due to their own actions.

Why are you wasting your life in activism in a morass in the first place? Even Jesus explained that he expended his time with the prostitutes because that is where the low hanging fruit was for saving souls. If the Europeans are happy with their devolution then why are you trying to ram your idealism down their throats.

I noticed my problems got worse from 2006 onwards when I "embraced" the Bible. I realize now it was an excuse to blame my predicament on circumstances rather than looking at decisions I could have made which would have made those circumstances less likely to come about.

It seems to me that you've lost your purpose. You are wandering aimlessly with the only purpose being to fight against everyone and then wallow in your devolution because of that decision.

Grab yourself by your bootstraps and entirely reorder your thought process back towards sanity. This is not easy to do. For me it has involved grueling exercise and getting off the damn computer and get out into the real life. You and I are different in that I originally am a very simple person from the south of the USA who is content with sweating in the hot New Orleans summers. Very much into athletics. I don't smoke cigars, dream of being a royal blood with a King Arthur's court. You seem to have something in your childhood or culture that drives you towards the predicament you are in.

You are a good person. You want good things for humanity. Yet the way you visualize making it happen appears to me to be delusional.

I am just being frank because I am hoping for the best for you, so perhaps the best I can do is be frank. I may be ignorant of some of the issues in your life and thus I may not have the correct understanding of your situation.


I would suggest you stop isolating yourself in a castle in Estonia. I would suggest you stop doing these bizarre activities. That doesn't mean I think you should necessarily conform to what those in Finland want you to do. They may also be in a slow motion devolution and not realize it. I am just hoping you can find your sanity and be social. But if you keep surrounding yourself with people who reinforce your delusions, then you will likely continue to devolve.

You should be able to interface with a wide diversity of people, not just those who want to name themselves some silly goat name for a gaming culture in the genre of King Arthur's court.

Real life man. Get back in touch with it. It is not in some isolated castle in Estonia.

Dude, I don't know why you keep going after the game, but it has as much to do with king author's court as the Denver Airport has to with a Rothschild's conspiracy--not sure where you get off telling anyone to deal with reality--a guy who pretends that he can play doctor and diagnosis his own illness via internet research and pseudo-cure dietician practices (get some lab work done, before you misinterpret your temporary states), but I guarantee you, no one who plays the game thinks that it is real--sure you may tie anything done on a computer with real world outcomes, but that's no different than going to Poloniex or a gambling site--the fact that the market dictates outgoing values in m is the same as any other virtual symbolic value--it's only real if you believe it's real--everyone has this negative capability as Keats called it, and the ability/curse to misread it as Harold Bloom pointed out many times over--I wish you would tend to your own garden (of future work never to be attempted--your record's skipping) or stop throwing rocks at other people's houses and imagining anything virtual will give you the satisfaction of breaking a real window, in a real house--though the Philippines recent drug craze killings makes me want to spend more time at my computer and less time in front of real windows.

[iamnotback]

a guy who pretends that he can play doctor and diagnosis his own illness via internet research and pseudo-cure dietician practices (get some lab work done, before you misinterpret your temporary states)

WTF do you think I am headed to an expert research hospital in Singapore in January to do dufus?

And not having sufficient funds to do it before is a valid reason. We cope with what we can afford to do. And I did get lab tests and ultrasound early this year and it was diagnosed as NAFLD. And I have read medical journals stating that SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth) is correlated with NAFLD (given 70% of the liver's blood supply via the portal vein originating from the small intestine) and possible causes of SIBO include "blind loop" (where part of the intestine has attached to itself), which is quite plausible given my abdominal organs bathed in stomach acid for 3 days in ER/ICU in May 2012 due to a perforated ulcer wherein the bleeding of those organs caused my stomach to swell up like a 4-5 month pregnant woman. You lowlife, surely you could find a better retort than attacking my horrific health debacle and my poverty. I am not proceeding with MRI, endoscopy, and other invasive procedures in the Philippines, because the doctors are derelict (lacking knowledge and/or lacking professionalism and dedication) and they are the ones who apparently fucked up my perforated ulcer outcome (as well as butchering my right eye, which my USA eye surgeon said would have retained 90% vision if the filipino doctor hadn't butchered it). Not to mention that in outpatient clinic appointment after my hospitalization for the perforated ulcer, another American younger than me was there to meet with my doctor and my doctor had butchered him so bad that he had been on morphine for 2 years and unlikely to ever be normal again! So I have a damn good reason for not wasting my money here in the Philippines on medical issues that are not within their capacity to deal with.

rpietila doesn't have that excuse (lack of funding).

The rest of your post was also a giant inkblot so doesn't deserve my response.

Amazing you didn't get the point that I am trying to help Risto. And I amazing that in your overzealous desire to defend Crypto Kingdom (which wasn't even what the post is about), you ignored where I admitted my own failures to be in touch with reality.

[generalizethis]

a guy who pretends that he can play doctor and diagnosis his own illness via internet research and pseudo-cure dietician practices (get some lab work done, before you misinterpret your temporary states)

WTF do you think I am headed to an expert research hospital in Singapore in January to do dufus?

And not having sufficient funds to do it before is valid reason. We cope with what we can afford to do. And I did get lab tests and ultrasound early this year and it was diagnosed as NAFLD. And I have read medical journals stating that SIBO is correlated with NAFLD and possible causes of SIBO include "blind loop", which is quite plausible given my abdominal organs bathed in stomach acid for 3 days in ER/ICU in May 2012 due to a perforated ulcer.

rpietila doesn't have that excuse (lack of funding).

The rest of your post was also a giant inkblot so doesn't deserve my response.

Amazing you didn't get the point that I am trying to help Risto. And I amazing that in your overzealous desire to defend Crypto Kingdom (which wasn't even what the post is about), you ignored where I admitted my own failures to be in touch with reality.

You're helping him by posting on a thread that posts him a negative light--sure, sure you are. I'm just getting your BS on the table too.

[iamnotback]

You're helping him by posting on a thread that posts him a negative light--sure, sure you are. I'm just getting your BS on the table too.

Yes I am. Because my post was about waking him from delusion and also about being responsible for our actions.

He posted a public question explaining what happened and asking what he should do.

I invested my effort to respond.

Then he suddenly decides to hide everything violating the effort of those who invested to respond, and also hiding his actions, thus not being responsible for them. And also possibly so he can bury what he doesn't want to hear, so he can continue in his prior patterns. (Maybe he wanted to act on the suggestion but even the act of removing history of discussion is denial enabling and diversionary to solving the problem I speculate he may have based on his statements and partial admissions.)

Also re-read my prior post, because I added to it.

Risto's proliferateprofligate censorship is one of his problems.

And you have serious deficiencies in observation and logic.

[iamnotback]

You're helping him by posting on a thread that posts him a negative light--sure, sure you are. I'm just getting your BS on the table too.

Yes I am. Because my post was about waking him from delusion and also about being responsible for our actions.

He posted a public question explaining what happened and asking what he should do.

I invested my effort to respond.

Then he suddenly decides to hide everything violating the effort of those who invested to respond, and also hiding his actions, thus not being responsible for them. And also possibly so he can bury what he doesn't want to hear, so he can continue in his prior patterns.

Also re-read my prior post, because I added to it.

Risto's proliferateprofligate censorship is one of his problems.

And you have serious deficiencies in observation and logic.

Maybe better to not copy your genuine post into a nasty thread started by spoetnik, a serial psychopath and small minded idiot. It makes people doubt your motives, which I think are motivated by kindness to answer risto's previous question with a considered response, but associating with a dick like spoetnick was unwise imo

Yeah maybe I could have thought of that. But I look for a thread that seems relevant and dump it some where quickly because I am multitasking and don't have a lot of time to put into it.

And I generally don't care who started the thread. Information is information. It doesn't mean I am endorsing Spoetnuts. Haven't you seen me roasting Spoet in other threads.

Also censoring me is a good way to get me to careless about where I moved the censored post to. I am adamantly offended by censorship. I consider censorship antithetical to decentralization that is our philosophy here in the crypto blockchain ecosystem. So thus I consider it a slap in my face.

It is more or less that if you censor me, then I punish you a little bit for doing that.

Also I am posting in this thread because of comments like this:

rpietila was still an early adopter of BTC though... what if he's right about XMR?

I say he is right 75/25. Just the date was wrong

Which obscures that rpietila caused a massive bubble in XMR by literally forcefeeding n00bs to buy XMR. I was adamantly against him doing that at the time and remain so. I am willing to let it be bygone, but when others try to rewrite history and say he is correct 75% of the time when in fact he caused many n00bs to make a losing (loss for 2 years buying at high prices) speculative decision.

rpietila is a good speculator, but he got into some delusion that it means he should be a leader of flock. I have no idea why needs to feed his ego that way. It seems to be part of the issues he has for melodrama and grandeur of being a martyr. I am not a psychologist, so I won't try to pretend I understand all his behavior. (And yes, I observe some of my behavior which can be considered melodrama and desire for grandeur, so I guess it takes one to know one right)

[Spoetnik]

I side with Shelby on this.. and his point of helping him.
I don't care if he wants to do Crypto..
Just abide by the same code of conduct we all use.
He often feels like he is above us all and exempt from common sense fair practices.
Especially with censorship etc.

Roughly 2 years ago now i posted a copy cat parody topic on him and his "rules" of censorship etc.
He JUST got here and Monero was his FIRST alt-coin and he had some grandiose sets of "king" rules..
where he dared you all to "challenge him".

And what did he do ?
He ran back and edited it all out. LOL  
Yup, those darn trolls were lying & FUD'ing right ?  

Nope.. he was caught acting like an idiot and called out over it.
And it's happened again since in the last couple years believe it or not. hahahhaha  

PS:
Please do take note guys.. although i get the attention i did not MAKE this topic.
For the millionth time i have 1 account and never logged into another one here ever.
AND..
I have asked Risto how many he has used here more than once.. and he vanishes.
I also asked generalizethis and he too does a vanishing act or goes on to pretend i am on ignore..
Yet always seems to reply back to what i say. LOL

I also asked Shelby and he too refused to answer.

THAT people is the problem with Monero.
It's surrounded by people who have spent years being dishonest about it all.
THAT is what grinds my gears about the coin aside from the ANON concept which i don't think is a good idea.

Having these characters surrounding Monero all this time has been detrimental to the cause.
Unfortunately we have some people who's behavior has done far more harm than good.. while trying to spread the word about Monero.

Plenty of people Shill their coins here but not all are are constantly wrapped up in a massive tornado of drama that goes on 24/7 for years.
Eventually you have to wonder why.. maybe look in the mirror ?

Want a resolution ?
Saying i am 100% innocent then shifting all the blame on others is not a good start.

I have tons of stories on Risto.
He created a topic in Off-Topic before and i replied but tried not to be too much of a jerk.
But he deleted the topic and then re-created it all over again to get rid off what i said then self-modded it.
He tends to self mod every topic he can..

Another time i told him he'd probably end up having his topic in ALT main deleted and sure enough staff deleted it on him (i never reported it) so what did he do ?
He kept copying and pasting the topic back in the same section even after staff told him .. wrong section.

He has one hell of a king shit holier than though chip on his shoulder.
He has PROVEN he is the main guy behind Monero
See the MEW topic = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg12619507#msg12619507
and has PROVEN he is very dishonest and shady as far as i am concerned.

Read that MEW topic and how he decides the dev's "get paid"
With no over site while the actual team member say he is "not apart of the team" for years over & over.
You will see him saying he spent the MEW money and that half of it went to the dev's.
Can you all read ? LOL
Read his OWN WORDS !
Put the pom-pom's down and look at the facts !

Oh and here is the topic i made that is a parody of his topic.. which he edited to cover up his shit.
Spoetnik Altcoin Observer = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772035.0

Here is the first post from it..

Hi, I am Spoetnik. Welcome to my thread on altcoins. I have been a Bitcoin owner since 2011 but never owned any alts, until I bought started mining LTC last year.

The rules of this thread are very strict, as always in my threads:

- There is no freedom of speech. The topic is altcoins, but I also want that it stays in a level that is possible and interesting to read for a busy Bitcoin holder that does not care about alts. I know how it feels to be a busy Bitcoin holder, so I steer the discussion to the maximum benefit for me, and for my readers.

- Which alts can be discussed, is up to me. Mentioning an alt after that specific alt has been banned from a thread results in a ban for you. If you do not obey my ban from the thread, historically you have had 100% chance to be banned from the forum as a result. Don't try your luck.

- Posts may be deleted for whatever reason. Deletion does not necessarily mean that the post was offensive. It may also have been too long quote (in which case either the original, or the reply may be pruned), repetition of yours or somebody else's point, or anything else.

- Moderating actions are written in red. Others are not allowed to use red.

My take on altcoins

Real simple
Scumbags like this guy and his power tripping self moderated flood of shill topics are drowning this forum in one sided garbage scam coin advertising.
see this bullshit.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.0

[epitome]

Risto Pietila might be a manipulator and a big time speculator but exposing his private issues is not that good way to tag him ,i have seen a thread earlier relating poloniex and monero ,does the exchange really have links with the coin developers ,i do not know and i do not have proof but one thing is certain ,the price of monero has increased many folds from the thread creating date. so in essence Risto Pietilla was right in saying that i will touch the moon.

[iamnotback]

Risto Pietila might be a manipulator and a big time speculator but exposing his private issues is not that good way to tag him

He wrote publicly about his private issues and asked for feedback.

...so in essence Risto Pietilla was right in saying that i will touch the moon.

A broken (stopped) 12 hour clock is correct twice a day.

Risto lead n00bs into a paying high prices into a bubble he alone manufactured by incessantly (implicitly bragging about his $10 million whale moonshot in BTC from $10 to $1000 while) prodding them to buy XMR. Yet for ~2 years all the price did was drop after that.

Risto Pietila might be a manipulator

I am not making that accusation.

[Shiroslullaby]

I think that picture is photoshopped and the Rolls isn't actually pink.
Big respect on a nice classic car, anyways.

Everyone on the internet has an agenda.
Especially when it comes to sites dealing with investments and money.
I've seen some helpful posts from Risto but I wouldn't follow anyones advice blindly. Hopefully other people are smart enough to do the same.

[Spoetnik]

Risto Pietila might be a manipulator and a big time speculator but exposing his private issues is not that good way to tag him ,i have seen a thread earlier relating poloniex and monero ,does the exchange really have links with the coin developers ,i do not know and i do not have proof but one thing is certain ,the price of monero has increased many folds from the thread creating date. so in essence Risto Pietilla was right in saying that i will touch the moon.

How would you know ? you have been here for 1 month.  
See how there is always a suspicious cloud of account juggling and forum shenanigans with Monero ?

There always seems to be a cloud of weird suspicious behavior with all these guys.
I have never seen any other coin project that has such an aggressive and vicious mob
that swoops in to defend the coin simultaneously at the slightest hint of "FUD".
Even though they bad mouthed this place and said they were leaving and going to start their own forum.  

I HAVE caught them lying more than once.. the usual suspects ..the main idiots shills.
And none of them will tell you how many accounts they have used here either.

The entire Monero ecosystem revolves around slander, harassment, intimidation and censorship.
If they KNOW there is bad news they will make damn sure none of "their people" speak about it..
AND NONE OF YOU DO EITHER.. one guy on the MEW topic did and Risto called him a a FUDDER.
Even if it means they have to show up en mass as a massive crew with puppet accounts causing diversions and dragging other coins into the matter.

There is no other coin more secretive or self-modded and no i don't mean the ANON tech.

Want to invest in this bullshit ? go for it.. i wouldn't.
And i could have on day one when they launched the Bytecoin "community take over coin"
Kind of funny the original dev of the coin they started with vanished from planet earth huh ?
And kind of odd they used the name Bytecoin when there already was a fucking Bytecoin hahahha  

There is literally no end to how fucked up and pathetic this coin is.
These guy have been digging themselves a hole for years.

Here is a funny little fact about the Monero Cult..
All the early drama was over them spamming this place blatantly in the first year and half roughly.
So there ended up being a revolt by the community.. everyone was telling them to fuck off and STFU.
So they started drama.. the usual suspects.. were spouting off claiming there was NEVER ANY type of adverting or spamming etc
They don't do that they claimed..

So what do we see ?
MEW money donated for marketing purposes held by the treasurer who they said was not a part of the team for 2 years spent on what Risto said & decided was a forum game he called a powerful PAID marketing asset.
Here ON THE FORUM !
AKA: a forum game here that cost donators money allocated for marketing for the purpose of Advertising.
And they said 100 million times Risto was not a part of the team either.. yet he was in charge of spending MEW money however he wanted.. such as he said half the money went to the dev's (why would he know that ?)
So i guess the dev's work for him then huh ?

Further more guess who i found out was an employee of his ? yup the MEW treasurer LOL
David Latapie !
And guess why i have a neg rating from.. smoothie  
Yup David Latapie was involved in some drama with French Police where i quoted him saying he had started a MONERO MARKETING COMPANY

..which they said did not exist for two years and that they do not advertise at Bitcointalk or spam etc.

Their lying bullshit double talk crap is blatant and they continually lie their ass off to cover it up then attacked anyone that exposes their shenanigans.
Such as negging me accusing me of lying when all i did was post what that guy David Latapie said.. hoping we would all get an explanation for his long winded intense apology.
We never did find out what happened either.. they all made damn sure it was swept under the rug and then viciously attacked anyone who dared speak up.. such as ruining my rating here with Negative Trust.

See a pattern yet ?

PS:
Everyone has an agenda ?
Ya.. mine is the truth ..not lying for money.

[iamnotback]

I've seen some helpful posts from Risto

Again I was not trying insinuate that Risto isn't a good guy or is never helpful.

Spoetnuts seems to have a more conspiratorial viewpoint, and I can't disprove his claims entirely (and I had also experienced railroading by Monero's community at times but not lately and yet I can't definitively connect that to Risto), but I also think I know Risto from past phone conversations before he entered Bitcoin and my impression is he is honest and principled. I tend to think his issues have to do with aggrandizing ego and some heapings of delusion (feats which I am intimately familiar with myself so by being at least somewhat self-deprecating I hope I qualify as a friend or former business acquaintance to speak frankly). Note for the past year or more, rpietila has been in his own threads, so the aggrandizing point is probably not accurate at this time. I am speculating is more about Risto having some need to be martyr for some reason. Again I am not a psychologist so I can't professionally analyze it. I would think Risto might be well served by consulting with a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. The former try to analyze, and the latter try to prescribe.

I am mostly concerned about Risto perhaps surrounding himself by "yes men" who are equivalently deluded, thus not providing any counter balance to tendencies. Any way, it isn't my life so I should STFU. I already expressed what I could. It is his life. And maybe I am entirely wrong.

[btcxyzzz]

What a fucking bullshit OP post.

[Zer0Sum]

Spoetnuts seems to have a more conspiratorial viewpoint...

We need a thread called "The Truth About Monero's GUI"...
Can someone please explain how Risto and the XMR Insiders have profited from killing the GUI?

[epitome]

Risto Pietila might be a manipulator and a big time speculator but exposing his private issues is not that good way to tag him

He wrote publicly about his private issues and asked for feedback.

i saw that thread ,may be he is having some issues and is having schizophrenia with the way he deals things

...so in essence Risto Pietilla was right in saying that i will touch the moon.


A broken (stopped) 12 hour clock is correct twice a day.

Risto lead n00bs into a paying high prices into a bubble he alone manufactured by incessantly (implicitly bragging about his $10 million whale moonshot in BTC from $10 to $1000 while) prodding them to buy XMR. Yet for ~2 years all the price did was drop after that.

yes a broken clock is correct twice and he took a bail earlier with his issues with Schizophrenia and he started manipulating the market and started skimming noobs ,i would say he played well to avoid future legal issues

[iamnotback]

Excerpt from a private message (only my part is shared publicly):

I am forwarding your message to rpietila. You are very amiable person and you deserve my utmost respect for that.

I am more frank. It is because I am too smart to lie to myself about things. And I see myself competing in this ecosystem trying to produce the best. So my type A personality rises to a frankness. I also know how to STFU and be amiable with everyone. It is mode I turn on or off depending on my role in the environment.

I don't think Risto was angry at you in any way. I think he just wanted to delete the posts which in hindsight he probably realized he would rather deal with privately. I think he probably making some progress now with his thought processes and I am very hopeful that he will be able to apply his excellent mind to our ecosystem unfettered by these daemons that have been haunting him. I am very much praying for him. I hope he knows that. I have several times in the past tried to more subtly hint to him what I am saying frankly now (private and public). I just felt that he is at a juncture now where he really needs some cold water thrown on his face, because I care about him. I am praying he consults with a psychologist to get a professional analysis of his situation.

What I see is an outpouring of concern for fellow human being. I hope Risto takes it that way. Interpreting it that way would be first step away from conspiratorial delusion. Even Spoetnuts might have a heart.

[Spoetnik]

Shelby the first thing i said earlier is i am not looking to get Risto out of Crypto..
Just hoping he will be reasonable and play nice.

He HAS in fact stomped around the Altcoin scene since DAY ONE like king shit.
Did you not see my post above where i quoted the Spoetnik Observer ?
That whole entire quote was what RISTO typed out on his keyboard word for word..
except i changed Monero to LTC.

Read it.. tell me that is a conspiracy.
All i have ever done is point out what he said and provide links to his own words.. *IF* he did not ran around covering it up later.
That is not conspiracy.. that is him ..here ..flapping his gums being a dick all the time.

Can you say "delusions of grandeur" ? i know you were avoiding say it earlier Shelby

By the way i use a digital watch
So.. when Shelby and Spoetnik are talking like lucid & coherent normal people you all better tighten up your scamcoin hats and buckle up for some FACTS™ !

Some of you STILL don't get it 2 or 3 years later..
I am pointing out how the guys behavior is not acceptable and it's not even debatable really.
And no i don't give two shits if you all wanna be friends with each other.
I did not come here to be bum-buddies with you people..
And i don't care if you all want to stick up for your eFriends.

Everyone is entitled to a fair even legit shot at Crypto.
No matter who you are friends with ..or not.

And all i see around here is people sweeping horrendous behavior under the rug because of who they are friends with.

Hell, i just went through that on a couple topics with guys such as VOD or Lauda or even BCX here.
Apparently if staff etc are friends with some guy here it's green light to fuck people around like crazy.

Nope.. i don't think so.. not on my watch assholes !
I will take you fuckers out at the knees if you pull that shit with me.
Fuck You and fuck your little friends too !

This is crypto noobs not eharmony for crypto-nerds looking for friendship.

Keep it real profiteers !

@Shelby
I totally get what you are saying.. i highly doubt your friend will.
Because he has mental problems and has for a long loooong time.
This is not likely to change because of a forum post or PM form you or me.

I have no reason to think rpietila is a "bad guy"
I just think his behavior has been unacceptable in Crypto a lot.
He is often overly controlling and sometimes secretive to the point of being dishonest.
Just calling it how i see it..

@Shelby
..you should look closely at all the points i made about your friend earlier.
I don't think you have..
I think you muttered "conspiratorial" at me and ignored it.
Maybe take the 5 minutes and look at the links i provided THEN reconsider bending over backwards helping your "friend"

I also think this topic is above him and i highly doubt he will say anything.
This sort of thing is beneath him and he will not toil with the peasants LOL

I guess living in a castle and driving a Rolls will make you think your the King of Crypto.

He don't like me i'm guessing because i have told him many times that money bullshit means squat.
The internet is the great equalizer.. when i post beside the US president he is nobody just another mouth flapping his gums.. his wallet means fuck all.
Who says something intelligent is what counts.. not what type of house your ISP is connected to.
And that really burns the ass's of guys like King rpietila of Monero.

Money ?
Fuck money.. i have integrity so blow me rich pricks.
Never seen a rich guy that was legit.. all that means is they are likely willing to step on necks to get to the top.. When i would not.

Or like i believe in Risto's case they were handed cash & prizes by their family.. like D. Trump.
And again that does not impress me either.

By the way my family's business has fucking clout bitches.
My name is on a bottle of wine and the company is worth more than risto's cocky fucking ass.

But i never received 1 single cent from the family.. i pay my own way like a fucking man.
I have been working my ass off since i dropped out of school to work a full time job in grade 8.
Often two jobs at once.
Such as when iGotSpots has shown up to mock me before for working for a burger joint called Wendy's as my second job.
I do what i do to pay the bills.
Contrary to my retard racist prick friend leaving me a neg rating for being on Welfare.
Apparently he was too busy negging me to Google search Spoetnik plus Wendy's  

..carry on guys just remember who the smart one is around here.

Oh and i DID go back to school later and upgrade my education so spare me the attack on that crap Trolls.

Bottom line:
There is the correct opinion and everyone else's !   

[iamnotback]

Can you say "delusions of grandeur" ? i know you were avoiding say it earlier Shelby

Well since I am by far the most voluminous poster of dense walls of verbiage on these forums for the past 3.5 years, we have evidence that I am well suited for an executive-level position:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ability-to-generate-e-mails-key-indicator-of-stamina-medical-study-says

And I did that while ill! Just wait until I am cured, y'all ain't seen nuttin' yet.

Well that is if you believe The New Yorker isn't full of delusional bullshit:

https://thescene.com/watch/thenewyorker/the-new-yorker-festival-sarah-silverman-and-andy-borowitz-tackle-trump?source=player_scene_logo

Julian Assange: [Let’s talk about] Donald Trump. What does he represent in the American mind and in the European mind?  He represents American white trash, [which Hillary Clinton called] ‘deplorable and irredeemable’.  It means from an establishment or educated cosmopolitan, urbane perspective, these people are like the red necks, and you can never deal with them.  Because he so clearly -- through his words and actions and the type of people that turn up at his rallies -- represents people who are not the middle, not the upper middle educated class, there is a fear of seeming to be associated in any way with them, a social fear that lowers the class status of anyone who can be accused of somehow assisting Trump in any way, including any criticism of Hillary Clinton. If you look at how the middle class gains its economic and social power, that makes absolute sense.

[Spoetnik]

I see a blatant spelling mistake i made in the quote of mine you posted.
I have a huge pile of reasons why i can't type.. so i should keep it short but i don't. LOL
I said way back i am glad you talk that way you do here because i was getting a lot of flak for my LONG rants.. well now i can point to you or a few others around here and say well, look at them !  

Guys here used to whine a LOT about post length.
I would always say well skip over it.. i do.

You can ignore them or read them later..
Or maybe skim through them and glean what you want out of it etc.
I don't see any point in whining *seriously* about it though.

I have seen you and the Monero boys go at it for 50 fucking pages with super rants from hell before though.
I kept trying to tell you guys to try and dumb it down a bit to be inclusive for the majority who are not crypto block chain tech experts.
..otherwise they will skip over your comments.. which defeats the purpose of writing them somewhat

I blame Logitech though.. not sure what Risto's problem is though LOL

I just switched back from a new keyboard i got recently so i am always getting used to another one..
Plus in time i have typing skills that keep deteriorating badly.
I used to be fairly accurate but a tad slow.
Now ? i am train wreck.. i can barley hobble together a rant with out correcting 50% of the words.

Thanks Logitech    
Yeah all my keyboards and mice are Logitech.. so it's there fault ...honest !

Anyway maybe Risto will see all this and give it some thought.
I don't blame him for not wanting to jump into this.

My Advice for him is pretty simple..
Work on more transparency and let users speak more freely.. lay off the self-modded topics.
And come clean about any and all negative shit with Monero and move on from it.
Also make some effort to show you are one of the common folk around here.
Not everyone can post pictures here standing in front of a Pink Bentley.
They are listening to advice while trading small amounts of money a lot of the time.
Trusting him !

I hold nothing against him for having mental issues in the past.. it's common.
On the contrary it takes balls for him to admit it here on the forum.. most would stay quiet.
Mental health can be largely circumstantial *sometimes* and anyone is subject to having problems.

So to him i say do what ya gotta do.. what ever will be will be.
Nothing personal and good luck with your shit guy.
I have no hate for the guy or anything..

[iamnotback]

I have traded some PMs with rpietila. Let's give him some space to sort out the issues. I am not giving any public indication as to the nature of the issues and what we discussed. I will not say more publicly.

[Spoetnik]

Let me just add that we all have issues and many of us plenty of personal drama.
That does not excuse bad behavior in crypto.

Nor is it justification for Risto to be EVEN MORE SECRETIVE.

What was it we were just talking about ?
So he's going to do it more and feeds you excuses via PM ? LOL

Shelby maybe don't be this idiots puppet ?
I wouldn't want anything to do with a guy that has acted this way in Crypto all this time.
No idea why you all feel utterly compelled to make bad work.

Escrow mentality..
I have never used one or needed one.. i only do trade with people i trust (i am not an idiot)
You all need to pull your head out of your ass.

Go look in the scam section.. does it look like these morons ever learn anything ? 

[iamnotback]

I have traded some PMs with rpietila. Let's give him some space to sort out the issues. I am not giving any public indication as to the nature of the issues and what we discussed. I will not say more publicly.

Unfortunately it appears Risto is in full denial of his responsibility for his issues. Risto prompted me to write more, by revealing in public what I thought was only for my private eyes (e.g. writing about his wife now in public which he told to me in private might endanger her and his kids, yet he goes ahead and does it any way, which is why I had decided to STFU because I thought was sincere about needing to not be public with his private affairs)

He apparently is incapable of differentiating sincere and objective inquiry and concern, from "personal insult".

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I have a life of my own, and it is just beginning!

What a wonderful and inspiring message there.

Wonderful it sounds as a principle. Unfortunately I think Risto may be deluding himself and digging himself deeper into an isolated pyschological hole in the ground.

Pietilä ranked in top-4 in the national Chemistry competition all of the 3 years he attended, won the Mental arithmetics competition all the 3 years he attended, and was twice a Chemistry olympiad delegate, once scoring a bronze medal.

...

He participated in Mensa IQ test in 2003, scoring 167 points.

When I interacted with you on the phone in the period roughly 2009 - 2011 regarding physical silver deals, I realized you had a sharp mind (did you get same impression from me?) but I had no idea you scored that high on a Mensa approved IQ test.

I have detected that you are very computationally astute (apparently faster than me, as you excel in gaming more than me).

I had demonstrated to you that I am conceptually (in the abstract) astute for example when I suggested you sell the silver the Finnish officials impounded to the public (to gain leverage) and when I helped you game theory strategize about how to deal with that one large buyer who connected with officials and hadn't paid you. I think both outcome were reasonably successful with my paradigm-shift conceptual input being helpful.

I am not comparing egos. Rather my point is I can vouch for your high intellect. He is not likely bullshitting us, although 167 is very high. I have never scored that any where near that high on an IQ test.

My sustained mental cognition is no where near what it was in 2010 because of liver+digestive illness. My peak mental cognition is still as high as it was, but I only get this is spurts now. So the average quality of my production will be lower now, unless I filter my output to only when I am sharp minded.

Soon afterwards, he became a conscientious-objector-in-reserve, and has not participated in Nato military exercises since 2000 (South Norway).

I think your activism is your downfall.

Activism is for loser tards. Real power players do action, not activism political BS that mires them in clusterfuck morass of politics.

Building popularity here for what? To sell them Monero at 10X the price at which it will bottom again?

Pietilä's involvement discontinued in a corporate ouster in 2003.

Always getting in political trouble everything you do? Maybe you should ask yourself why, so you don't repeat the same patterns.

In 2006 Pietilä saw the financial crisis approaching, and paid airtime to get his voice heard through a new national alternative TV-channel "Heaven TV7" of which he had previously cornered 1.5% of ownership. The 3-hour live show became so successful that it was re-broadcast several times and Pietilä has since been featured both in radio and TV in "crisis watch" programs. He has been featured in every Finnish TV channel plus whole-page in the largest newspaper.

So is the only thing you can use your arithmetic IQ for is selling speculations to emotional n00bs?

I am challenging you to maximize your talents.

The same year Pietilä began dealing in physical investment metals. The business got bigger only in 2008 after some free publicity from the government of Finland. Connected to these activities, Pietilä has co-owned and co-operated hopea.fi (2006-2013), Scenario Investments Oy (2006-2010), Eesti Investeerimishõbe OÜ (2009-), Silverbank (2010-2016), Crypto Holding (2010-). In total, more than 100 people have invested in Pietilä's companies over 15 years, and they have had more than 100,000 clients. The market cap of the companies is 1...a few MEUR each.

I was involved to a very minor degree. So I believe this happened.

Pietilä is holiday-proficient in 8 languages and writes academically in English and occasionally Finnish (the latter being his native language).

Europeans kick Americans ass on being polyglot. I am holiday proficient in two languages, and Spanish wouldn't be that hard for me. I knew a lot of Latin and French in 9th grade, but have since forgotten it all. However, I am polyglot in numerous computer programming languages.

Some extreme actions have been directed against Pietilä by the establishment in Finland, including:
- hijack, sabotage and ouster from his first company (2003)
- armed confiscation of all his assets followed by a sea of illegal procedure (2008)
- nationwide media campaign for character assassination (2011)
- extrajudicial incarceration in mental facility and forced medication until suicidal (2013)
- fled for his life from Finland and left behind family who wanted medication to happen again (2016)

But how to not get yourself into these situations in the first place.

It is because of these events that Pietilä now considers that he has been declared as a public enemy. In actions of self-defence, Pietilä has supported numerous anti-government/anti-nato/anti-deep state groups since 2004 with sums of up to 7-figures.

And you wonder why you bring trouble to yourself    

Are you sure you have a 167 IQ? Is it all in computational capability and no common sense?

Also he has designed and made:
- a 100% physical silver backed currency system Silverbank,

Useless, and it brought trouble to you.

- an unregulated and indestructible free trade/exchange platform Crypto Kingdom, and

I am very skeptical of those claims. Where is the white paper with proofs?

- is currently executing Kansanmarkka, a debt-free basic income currency, designed to oust Euro from Finland (and the world) by voluntary choice by the people. Participation in Kansanmarkka is free, you actually get paid.

You will not oust the Euro from Finland with this project. If you think so, you are suffering from delusion.

You are bringing more trouble to yourself and accomplishing nothing useful.

He has bought a large, secure, castle-like manor compound in rural Estonia in 2004, a move that was noticed in mainstream Finnish and Estonian media, and cryptocurrency media worldwide. He has hosted several ultra-high-profile events with participation from all continents, both in his castle and elsewhere.

You have thrown $1 million of BTC down a rat hole that isolates and supports your delusions and bizarre projects that have not real world relevancy.

He received his first official death threat 3 weeks ago. He is now residing in his castle, and will continue the fight to liberate Finland (and the world) from there, unfettered by family.

Man you need to stop. But you won't listen. You are determined to push yourself into trouble.

I have to conclude your psychologist is either corrupted by your money and incompetent.

People are eager to believe things that interact with their own "reality". So if they are delusional, they are more likely to interpret others' actions as delusional also.

This applies to you also. You seem to be entirely out-of-touch with reality.

I had bet for Clinton to win, not that I supported her or believed she would gain the majority of votes, but just because establishment wants their martial law and can rig the election to ensure it. This is truly an interesting time to make happen.  

If you had been reading me for past weeks, then you would have known it was 75% sure that Trump would win.

ADD: Sorry my ex-family members that I repeatedly call you idiots, insane, and delusional. But you have to understand that it is exactly what you are.

You are burning bridges which is a strong indicator of being crazy.

If all of your family is indeed that lunatic, then there is a high likelihood you are too.

I am worried about you Risto. You seem to be exhibiting signs of going off the rails. Seriously. As your former business acquaintance, I am urging you to please get out of your shell and go see a competent independent psychologist. See 3 or 4 and get independent assessments so you can triangulate. And print out my comment for them to read.

He has posted the following after deleting my post above:

With the decision I just made, there will be no further gaslighting of me in my threads.

It has been allowed before, as I thought it was fun and not detrimental. But I have been proven wrong.

The only thing it does, is to reinforce the already prevalent belief that there is something wrong with ME, and this opens the door to further detrimental action that is hindering my work. It also derails the discussion.

You should try to lead multimillion dollar businesses, research, family, and agent missions, for years, all the while being incessantly publicly criticised to be crazy. It ain't THAT fun.

So please reactivate the hate threads and post there. I have deleted and will delete posts containing personal insult. You will get a PM notification of deleted posts, and can post again the salient issues, omitting the slander.

Update: he deleted another post and claims I am mentally abusing him. He asks for public discussion, then accuses anyone who is concerned and frank of being mentally abusive. Let this be a warning for anyone dealing with rpietila that he appears to be very unstable at this juncture. I hope he can get some help. Concerned and I like Risto. Sad to see it come to this. Hope I am wrong.

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Risto what is your culture? What is the culture of Estonia? What is the culture of those who come stay at your castle? Are you getting the exposure to the diversity of disciplined culture that keeps you objective and rational?

I ask myself analogous questions lately.

Note how the States Hillary won (or very close votes and/or many Latinos) are also significantly correlated with the legalized-for-recreational-use marijuana states (legal for medical use isn't the same issue):

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/216285833-story

This portends the future geographical split of the USA into autonomous regions as portended by Armstrongs computer model.

More precisely the central corridor (mid-west, Texas, and southeast except south Florida) is the traditional Bible Belt. This is why Montana and N. Dakota are exceptions (they vote Trump because they want they want less government intrusion but they are not religious). The divide is more about religion (and its concomitant culture) than anything else. Note (especially brown) Catholics are not the same as Protestants, which is why the Latinos (on average) have insufficient discipline when it comes to marijuana (my Colombian friend says it is widespread usage throughout South America). Filipinos while being largely Catholic are really more tribal and (Malay)asian, which explains their lurch to the conservative side with Duterte and vigilante war on drugs. You can see this for example looking at the animist art in Peru or any South American country, compared to Philippines art which is more pragmatic and adopting novel themes relative to recent modern events. Asians are boring, conservative, modernization focused, business focused, and pragmatic.

We are looking a divide in the country based around those fundamentalist Protestant cultures the represented the core of American values when I was young. The Liberals in the North East (and now West coast) have always been "city slickers" to us in the Deep South (I was born in New Orleans). The imported Latinos on average are liberal.

Note my parents are liberal (which is probably why they moved away from Louisiana), and I am more conservative because I identified more with my grandparents who were conservative Protestants.

[iamnotback]

Pre-empting my post being deleted by copying it over here:

2) Theoretised the necessary condition for getting everybody in the world to side with you. This is very dangerous to the current controllers of the world, the illuminatis and the like, who control the world by deception and violence. In reality, all you need to totally overthrow the previous structure, is to make a new one that possesses one crucial property:

There needs to exist one outsider that would profit from joining in (and he needs to be able to join). And the process of joining in, must cause or coincide with the emergence of another one.

This is actually just mathematical induction (inductive proof is used when reasoning that ALL(X) possess some property).

Actually this is a more general emergent phenomenon known as the entropic force which governs the Second Law of Thermodynamics and is the reason we have gravity. The entropic force must exist otherwise the speed-of-light could not be unitized and thus the past and future light cones of special relativity would collapse onto each other and there would exist no differentiation between past and future and thus nothing could exist because nothing could (be differentiated) change in spacetime. I have written often about this.

I am repeating myself here, but this is lethally dangerous to the powers, and they have tried to kill me for this. I am currently doing Kansanmarkka that possesses this property. So they want to kill me, and have both threatened to kill me, and attempted to kill me in the last weeks.

...

Quoting (liberally translated) a Finnish online news media - "if 100 people would do what Pietilä is doing, the revolution would have been accomplished already".

...

My only crime is trying to liberate humanity from evil,
and when doing this, not one can even testify against me that I have broken any of the commandments.

And again instead of accomplishing a goal, you bring trouble to yourself to make it sure you fail.

If you really have a high IQ then you would be more cunning.

You don't scale a brickwall by pointing your head and running directly at it. This is known to fail.

This is not an insult. I call this reality. I call this a concerned individual giving useful feedback to the one who is a bit of out-of-touch with reality and who may need some help triangulating. You probably can't triangulate if you only accept feedback from brown noses.

[iamnotback]

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rpietila binding your relationship with your (possibly dysfunctional) family members to the international cabal, is like writing about UFOs. It is not level-headed.

Your personal relationship with people is at a different level of realism than some imagined grandeur of being a Jesus-like disciple in a fight with TPTB.

I am sorry, I still observe from your statements that you are not operating in reality.

And I have seen you surround yourself with creepy individuals who want to name themselves goat names and sit around a King Arthur's court. It is like a bunch of boys playing a role game as we did when I was younger. I can only imagine some of the parties at your castle since I didn't experience them.

As for whether you've been receiving abuse in Finland from your family members, I am not denying your claim. It would be best to get out of such abuse. But stepping from that into a childish realm of a castle, could be jumping from the fire into the tarpit.

Again I don't know all the details of your life. So I might be wrong. That is why I suggested you get others who are independent to help you triangulate.

And I do apologize if I am wrong. I am just concerned that maybe no one you respect, is being frank with you.

Was in response to:

You wish (and retroactively, me too) that I had "isolated myself with brown noses".

Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact,

I had isolated me with incessant psychological abuse, conformism, doublethink and "red-green bubble" (worship of Cultural-Marxism, you call it "Liberals" in the U.S.) etc. My "friends" from the past life are "worried about me" even with the current level of disclosure about how I felt in my ex-family.

Might it suffice to say that my lips had been sealed on all the ------ because my wife so demanded during all our marriage, and I did not have a compelling reason to spill the beans. From hindsight, I should have disclosed all her stuff like I did with mine, because currently: people who have or have not met us, almost universally believe the gaslighting version, and my version is only now even published (and I will withhold any details to the extent possible to protect my kids)!

This is giving the $400,000,000,000,000 cabal a 14-year head start in the public narrative concerning you, peasant Risto
(I actually am a peasant, son of a farmer)

Q: How do you feel about it?

A: I feel sad about my wife and everyone there, I really do. I used offensive language towards them some days ago, and I am not going to redact it. It was only because of my need to disclaim "their" version (the $400T version above, claiming me to be mostly crazy and very little saving the world), and replace it with "my" version (mostly saving the world, and little if at all crazy).

[iamnotback]

The latest ordeals are, in my understanding, connected to my latest project Kansanmarkka. I am in a linchpin position to push the worldwide monetary revolution happen, because:

And as I've been trying to tell you, you are creating that problem for yourself unnecessarily. You are trying to replace TPTB with yourself. That is not the correct solution. We don't need more idols (Ten Commandments). Read below...

6) I can create money. Well anyone can, demonstrated by Bitcoin etc. The power of money creation is very potent, as it (mostly alone, with the help of inertia in the compartmentalised world system of course) holds the controllers in power, and its proliferation can dethrone and destroy them. I and some of my friends aimed to be in the position to have "unlimited money", which is the second step from having "all the money required" (see (5)).

The difference with "as much as needed" and "unlimited" is in the time preference. "As much as needed" requires the demonstration of a positive expected value to the "investor", so that you can get all the money you need. This capability I have had approx since 2008-2010, after which I have never been in the situation of "needing" money for doing anything that is worth doing.

"Unlimited" allows for giving money away in unlimited quantities without calculation if it will come back. This is what we are about to demonstrate with Kansanmarkka, hardly even allowing people to convert their existing financial resources to it. The situation now is similar to Bitcoin in 2009 - anyone who can get in, will just receive money in unfathomable quantities, no need (or possibility) to pay for it, except by the means of the effort required.

The points (5) and (6) can be expanded to form a 4-phase value creation ladder:

I - Not able to create value, destined to be a tool in the hands of people in (IV)
II - Able to create value, ability to live independently/collectivistically in a voluntaristic world
III - Able to create value to the extent that money is never the bottleneck as you can always exchange value for money as needed
IV - Able to create money
  IVA - Able to threaten, coerce and bribe, (drone-DU-bomb, etc.) all the world to submit to you
  IVB - Able to just let others follow you, and able to enable the leadership position as well for anyone who wishes to pick it up.

Few people at a time are in IVB - but now more than ever before, and we are more dangerous to the powers than ever before, due to the Internet. Something is going to happen, and is happening soon.

Dangerous (again), does not mean violent. IVA is violent, tyrannical, demonic, to its core. IVB is its diametric opposite, hardly willing to engage in self-defence even.

Creating as much money as needed is a lie to yourself. Money can't buy knowledge creation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0 <--- the OP of the Economic Devastation thread
The Rise of Knowledge
http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html

It is the knowledge creation which is needed and valuable. Money is a claim on resources, but not a claim on knowledge creation (because it can't be, read my essay linked above).

The power to create unlimited money (even by having people follow) is never a desirable power because it is a power vacuum.

It can never be a truth that money which is created by following leaders is an honest/truthful or nonviolent money system, because it will always be a power vacuum.

The foundation of your plan appears to begin with fundamental logic errors. Sorry. IQ tests lie.

Abstract: This paper posits that prior consensus ordering systems are winner-take-all power vacuums^† without a stable decentralized equilibrium. Satoshi’s proof-of-work (aka “PoW”)¹ and Bitshares’ Delegated Proof-of-Stake (aka “DPoS”)² are examined in some detail as plausible examples of this theory.

[redacted]

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† _{Power vacuum in the context of this paper means the system has no viable mechanism to maintain an equilibrium of decentralized control and limit the snowballing effect of a vicious cycle feedback loop where influence (centralized control) in the system due to concentrated wealth and economies-of-scale, increases the concentration of the wealth and economies-of-scale in the system. The value of the resource to be captured far exceeds the unrecoverable portion of the (risk + opportunity + whatever) cost to capture it, the net value (analogous to a “selling price” minus cost) doesn't decrease with a decrease in demand from those who can compete to obtain it, and only the one with the most resources can capture it.}

[redacted]

[generalizethis]

It depends if you are creating a system and how well that system adapts--take the Medici's use of art as symbol creation. Not sure why you conflate the two, but power is given to the symbol that already correlates to a preconceived idealization--it's the artist's job to reconfigured the symbol to either match a current systemic view or to break the mold or to revamp it with new ideas. There are just stars we use for directional pathways as we navigate life and money is the symbolic ocean we swim to get there, or at least off this rock. Your pessimism about us getting to another place has always been palpable, but you've never checked your ego at the door and said, "what if?" EM's aren't supposed to work, but the testing data says otherwise, so are the engineers wrong or the ______'s who forgot to calculate the square root of nothing is the base point of all exploration. Some people can imagine things into existence.

[Reallist]

What is the relationship between XMR and Poloniex?

[iamnotback]

I - Not able to create value, destined to be a tool in the hands of people in (IV)
II - Able to create value, ability to live independently/collectivistically in a voluntaristic world
III - Able to create value to the extent that money is never the bottleneck as you can always exchange value for money as needed
IV - Able to create money
  IVA - Able to threaten, coerce and bribe, (drone-DU-bomb, etc.) all the world to submit to you
  IVB - Able to just let others follow you, and able to enable the leadership position as well for anyone who wishes to pick it up.

Creating as much money as needed is a lie to yourself. Money can't buy knowledge creation:

It is the knowledge creation which is needed and valuable. Money is a claim on resources, but not a claim on knowledge creation (because it can't be, read my essay linked above).

Knowledge is not money, because money is fungible whereas knowledge is not.

Knowledge creation capability does determine where you fit in my scale above, and I have bolded it for you, AnonyMint. No matter how well off you may be with your knowledge creation skills, if you lack the prerequisites to monetize them (the skills, or the knowledge, or contacts, or any subset), you are still in the early stages of my ladder. Also the environment matters greatly.

When all the things that change the world and impact evolution have shifted to knowledge creation, which money can't buy, then influence over and actual knowledge creation are more valued than money. You can go buy all the useless castles you want, while I change the world. Then we will compare accomplishments.

Also pray tell Satoshi that I can't monetize my Bitcoin killer. He certainly did. But money isn't the goal and he presumably knew that also.

My goal is to move us to the next stage where knowledge creation is important and money (hard resources) less so. Atoms are heavy, but finitely so. Knowledge creation is unbounded. Compare.

In short, your ladder is not a metric of greatest importance. It the illusion that is going to trap the capitalists as we move towards the return of Jesus where resources don't matter any more. Jesus is coming technologically even if not literally.

That is why I suggested you should use your money for good while it still has any relevance. Yeah I am in a rough spot right now financially, but Jesus told me to walk with nothing and stay focused on what is important. (that doesn't mean I am a saint!)

The ones in IVB, have the burden on changing the environment (by replacing the existing world system with a better one) to enable us to move on to the next stage as humanity. When that happens, then your dreaming will become true, but it seems others have to make the transition as you are unwilling to raise your level (which I have done, after we did business together in 2008).

Raising your level in the wrong direction has made you much less likely to have any important impact. You are moving farther away from any sensible decentralized lurch towards the knowledge age with your socialist monetary scheme which is competing directing with the TPTB because it is a power vacuum direction.

Whereas, I am creating technological advances which decentralize and eliminate the power vacuum. And also provides a basic level income for a basic level of work. Which is the way it should be, not some socialistic scheme.

It can never be a truth that money which is created by following leaders is an honest/truthful or nonviolent money system, because it will always be a power vacuum.

Is any of the readers buying this? I think the exact opposite is true.

The only non power vacuum will come from technology that renders concentrated control over wealth impotent over anything other than resource capitalism.

Bitcoin failed because it burns a physical resource.

The positive scaling law of Linus' law is the solution. It is the only positive scaling law of software (technology) engineering. And it also applies to truth in a way that I am going to be the first to bring to a money system.

Please continue thinking of me as lower on your ladder. I am confident that is what they thought of Jesus too as he humbly hung out with the bankers and prostitutes because he said that is where the ripe fruit was for saving souls.


Edit: Adam Smith pointed out that those trying to promote the public interest often do worse than those who work for their own optimum economics, due to the invisible hand (or otherwise stated, "you can't do just one thing" ... see how conversationalists destroyed the rivers by trying to save the wildlife from predator wolves). Your goody-goody socialistic coin is in the same genre of myopia:

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/macroeconomics/gdp-topic/econ-intro-in-macro-tutorial/v/introduction-to-economics

[adhitthana]

The funny thing is Risto is an intelligent well mannered insightful and generally a better poster than most here.

So...I guess you can draw your own conclusions from that.

[iamnotback]

The funny thing is Risto is an intelligent

Then how did he get himself in such troubles?

well mannered

Are we in church or a competition to produce the best technological innovation?

and generally a better poster than most here.

Who wouldn't be?

So...I guess you can draw your own conclusions from that.

Did you say anything?

[Spoetnik]

The funny thing is Risto is an intelligent well mannered insightful and generally a better poster than most here.

So...I guess you can draw your own conclusions from that.

You are full of shit and defending him because you are a Monero shill.
And Monero was attacked on this topic.

You are 100% full of shit.. as all Monero idiots.

I have proven citing links to his shenanigans here countless times before.

And intelligent ?

He thought it was ok to have his employee Mr. Latapie hand him MEW donated funds to start a forum game for the purpose of adoption which he characterized as a powerful asset. (within the context of adoption)
AKA: he's an idiot if he thinks posting then spamming a forum game here is going to do fuck all.

He started doing that simply because he likes playing "forum games" (and wants to hang around)
Me i think they are incredibly fucking gay beyond comprehension.

His facade of using donated funds to do that is simply retarded.

Why did he do that with out permission and why did David hand him the money ?
And how much did he take exactly and why was his employee the MEW treasurer ?
And did Risto employee the Treasurer to work on the game ?

And when he was confronted by his own supporters why did he mouth them off calling them FUD'ers ?

Like how dare you ask the mighty king risto any questions (about where your donated money went)

Tip of the bloody god damn mother fucking ice berg.
These Monero retards are a pack of vipers here in crypto.

Risto is the best poster ?
I don't EVER recall him commenting with his OWN ACCOUNT in this section.
So how can you claim fuck all ?

I hope you Morono idiots get cancer and die.
You are nothing but bullshitting little weasels flogging your gay coin crap.

Hey idiots pay me $23,000 i plan on starting a topic in the Altcoin section so i can spam it for advertising.  

I am thoroughly fed up with the Monero cult.

PS:
Dark Markets.. Monero = Pedo, Guns and Fentanyl coin.

[adhitthana]

The funny thing is Risto is an intelligent

Then how did he get himself in such troubles?

It is normal for a person to have trouble in life. If you are not having problems you are not a person.

[adhitthana]

Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true    )

Pump and dump again??
Do you really believe Risto caused Bitcoin to go up? Monero?

Lot's more people that Risto saw the potential of Bitcoin and Monero (wasn't Gavin Anderson one?)

Seems to me he had a view, voiced it and was right about the timing and the direction... twice.
If you'd followed his advice on timing and direction you would have done very well. Price targets are known to be harder to calculate, so all in all it has been good advice.

Risto...if you are reading this I'd love to know if you ever have another trading idea. I won't blame you if it doesn't work, but I'd love to know.
You are welcome to PM me if you like.

[CryptoSporidium]

Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true    )

Pump and dump again??
Do you really believe Risto caused Bitcoin to go up? Monero?

Lot's more people that Risto saw the potential of Bitcoin and Monero (wasn't Gavin Anderson one?)

Seems to me he had a view, voiced it and was right about the timing and the direction... twice.
If you'd followed his advice on timing and direction you would have done very well. Price targets are known to be harder to calculate, so all in all it has been good advice.

Risto...if you are reading this I'd love to know if you ever have another trading idea. I won't blame you if it doesn't work, but I'd love to know.
You are welcome to PM me if you like.

Me too, I  would love a hot tip

[iamnotback]

Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true    )

Pump and dump again??
Do you really believe Risto caused Bitcoin to go up? Monero?

Lot's more people that Risto saw the potential of Bitcoin and Monero (wasn't Gavin Anderson one?)

Seems to me he had a view, voiced it and was right about the timing and the direction... twice.
If you'd followed his advice on timing and direction you would have done very well. Price targets are known to be harder to calculate, so all in all it has been good advice.

Risto...if you are reading this I'd love to know if you ever have another trading idea. I won't blame you if it doesn't work, but I'd love to know.
You are welcome to PM me if you like.

Me too, I  would love a hot tip

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

Risto was advising everyone to not sell BTC all the way down from $700ish (while he was selling at the price $1.5 million to buy his castle), while I was saying it would bottom below $300. And then when it went below $300, I said it would bottom at $150. After that, I also made mistake of thinking it might go lower again.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

[generalizethis]

Risto buys over 200,000 XMR. Now he intends to pump n dump again with same tactic. He tells everyone it will rise 1000x (netting him ~350 Million dollars if that were to become true    )

Pump and dump again??
Do you really believe Risto caused Bitcoin to go up? Monero?

Lot's more people that Risto saw the potential of Bitcoin and Monero (wasn't Gavin Anderson one?)

Seems to me he had a view, voiced it and was right about the timing and the direction... twice.
If you'd followed his advice on timing and direction you would have done very well. Price targets are known to be harder to calculate, so all in all it has been good advice.

Risto...if you are reading this I'd love to know if you ever have another trading idea. I won't blame you if it doesn't work, but I'd love to know.
You are welcome to PM me if you like.

Me too, I  would love a hot tip

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

Risto was advising everyone to not sell BTC all the way down from $700ish (while he was selling at the price $1.5 million to buy his castle), while I was saying it would bottom below $300. And then when it went below $300, I said it would bottom at $150. After that, I also made mistake of thinking it might go lower again.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

By doing due diligence we will realize that you never placed a bet on any of those things happening--perhaps if you had, you would have made some money and would come across as far less bitter.

[iamnotback]

By doing due diligence we will realize that you never placed a bet on any of those things happening--perhaps if you had, you would have made some money and would come across as far less bitter.

Inkblot artist,

Bitter? Lol.

Attack me with lies when I make factual statements about the guy whose shit is all over your brown nose.

I did place bets. Look up the economics terms 'externalities' and 'proxies'. But why should it matter? I wasn't the one leading the flock into buying a speculation at nosebleed prices. Thus my private investments have no bearing on the public-at-large here reading this. How can you commit such an egregious categorical error and claim to be intelligent?

You are (behaving as a mindless) pack dog and not (exhibiting the independence of thought of) an intellectual.

All I have ever seen you do is argue. Did you ever produce anything in your entire life other than that incomprehensible gibberish you claim is poetry/art? Where?


I am just setting the record straight so readers won't go idolizing Risto as if he is some kind of magic wand. If you want to hang off the end of his joystick, that is your prerogative.

If I have written anything false about Risto, please correct me. I am not the one who is bragging claiming a 167 IQ.    (Me thinks something smells funny about the IQ tests there in Finland)



Good ole' boys Cargo cult circle-jerks don't impress me. Professionalism impresses me.

[Divorcion]

This coin was not a bad buy, it was one of the better investments for me.

[Spoetnik]

Mr has me on ignore says "Due Diligence" ?
Oh boy   ..do i love that cliched Crypto retardtort ROFL

If you used "Due Diligence" ..you wouldn't be "investing" in ANY of these coins (including Bitcoin)

Oh and by the way.. risto claimed Bitcoin will be worth 1 million dollars a coin eventually.
So if you take his word for it then what ?
No matter the price it's buy time i guess right ?
Because paying $344,000 for 1 BTC is apparently a massive bargain right ?

This post by me relates to his claims etc.. i am not trying to personally attack the guy.
I actually have no interest in him personally.
What i have a problem with is people who worm their way into a position of influence..
Then abuse it. (whether the abuser knows it or not)

Objectivity.
A concept seemingly lost on Risto.
His topic he created and spammed on here (one of many)
Had a long winded manifesto about his back story here. (he edited out after i mocked him about it)
here is the part he deleted i coped in a parody topic
He claimed to have been in to Bitcoin but Monero was his first Altcoin..
And he went on to dictate his "rules"

So what ever cocky prick who fell into a bag of cash and showed up here to shill some altcoin is now king shit ?
The new crypto genius ?
Who the hell is this Altcoin noob ? LOL

And why does he get a kings crown ?
Best i could tell it was because he claimed to have a pile of money as he showed up
and because he got in on BTC early.. so what lots of people did.
I could have too but i kept putting off looking up Bitcoin every time i heard about it.
He deserves some special reputation because he was an early adopter of Bitcoin (he claims) ?
Really ? Seriously ? Does that prove anything to you all ?
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually LOL

Bottom Line:
The guy has a variety of personality issues that are in sharp conflict with his agenda here.
People have tried to talk to him about it and he is defiant.
What ever will be.. will be.
Just don't pretend the guy is not "the way he is" when it's obvious to anyone with half a brain.

PS:
Do you all forget how many times you kept railing on defending Monero saying David Latapie and Risto / rpietila were not apart of the Monero team ?

All the shit those two have pulled last couple years has triggered that response from many of the usual Monero suspects.. only for them to forget they said it 2 minutes later when they are caught lying.
I guess the dev(s) would lie their ass off when their paycheck comes from Dave & Risto huh ?
Which is known because i linked to it lots if you all bothered to read it.. Link
Nothing i said is made up or FUD or an attack etc.
It is quotes from the Monero idiots flapping their gums.. for years.

For example i had either smooth or smoothie on IRC admitting that both those two guys were a cancer to the coin.

Here look at this FUD i posted about Risto on IRC way back..
Note: Smooth was idle watching this being said and as usual stayed silent.

14[02:27] <Spoetnik> PS:
14[02:27] <Spoetnik> Monero is a SCAM
14[02:27] <Spoetnik> While i been here i did 100 things on my PC and at home..
14[02:28] <Spoetnik> my TV is my computer too
14[02:28] <Spoetnik> 24/7
14[02:28] <Spoetnik> if there is activity here my mIRC icon blinks
14[02:28] <Spoetnik> waiting for that big News
14[02:29] <Spoetnik> that Bitcointalk gave Spoetnik Legendary status
14[02:29] <Spoetnik> gettin' close
14[02:29] <Spoetnik> waiting for that big News ..THAT BIGVERN IS IN JAIL
[02:29] <thanjee> the one that says we all get our coins back on cryptsy, or the one that monero devs dumped all monero and it is now worthless?
14[02:29] <Spoetnik> or Garmin harvested his organs for money
[02:29] <thanjee> oh, that big news
14[02:30] <Spoetnik> thanjee if Repteila gets bored watch out
14[02:30] <Spoetnik> he spent a LOOOOOT of money on them
14[02:30] <Spoetnik> if he decides he wants out it's get ugly for them
14[02:31] <Spoetnik> and their dev's won't be paid anymore etc
14[02:31] <Spoetnik> he's been shoveling money at every aspect of that project for 2 years
14[02:31] <Spoetnik> repietla / Risto = Monero
14[02:31] <Spoetnik> and smooth / smoothie are his little puppets
[02:32] <thanjee> oh ya, i remember smooth extolling xmr
[02:32] <thanjee> extolling
14[02:33] <Spoetnik> Risto bought a 1 time lump sump of 882 BTC worth of Monero a LONG time ago and more since then i bet
[02:33] <thanjee> 882!?!
14[02:33] <Spoetnik> smooth doesn't say a word about ANYTHING else at all !
14[02:33] <Spoetnik> ya and that was when BTC was worth like $600
14[02:34] <Spoetnik> and Monero was worth waaaaay less
14[02:34] <Spoetnik> i guarantee he's been buying more the last 2 years straight too
14[02:34] <Spoetnik> he wants our ..look out LOL
[02:34] <shekels> LOL LOL LOL
[02:34] <thanjee> so he owns over 51%
14[02:34] <Spoetnik> what a dumb bot
14[02:35] <Spoetnik> he might
14[02:35] <Spoetnik> i wouldn't be surpised if he did
14[02:35] <Spoetnik> i highly doubt they are all honest about who has how many either..
14[02:36] <Spoetnik> and allw hat i said is naked for all to see ..*IF* they pay a fucking attention
14[02:36] <Spoetnik> people seem blind to shenanigans

[iamnotback]

Oh and by the way.. risto claimed Bitcoin will be worth 1 million dollars a coin eventually.
So if you take his word for it then what ?
No matter the price it's buy time i guess right ?
Because paying $344,000 for 1 BTC is apparently a massive bargain right ?

This post by me relates to his claims etc.. i am not trying to personally attack the guy.
I actually have no interest in him personally.
What i have a problem with is people who worm their way into a position of influence..
Then abuse it. (whether the abuser knows it or not)

Objectivity.
A concept seemingly lost on Risto.
His topic he created and spammed on here (one of many)

So what ever cocky prick who fell into a bag of cash and showed up here to shill some altcoin is now king shit ?
The new crypto genius ?
Who the hell is this Altcoin noob ? LOL

And why does he get a kings crown ?
Best i could tell it was because he claimed to have a pile of money as he showed up
and because he got in on BTC early.. so what lots of people did.

I actually agree on this part.

Decentralization folks. No kings.

Get out there and compete with your knowledge creation (e.g. source code!) productivity, not your political influence.

Adam Smith's maximum division-of-labor for the greatest benefits of the Invisible Hand. No one person holds the magic wand.

I actually have a personal level interest in Risto. I know him as a very amicable person in verbal conversations. I believe his heart in the right place, but somehow IMO he appears to be stuck on this delusion that those at the top must control and take care of those at the bottom.

I also think he thinks that a good ole' boys club of the capitalists is neato. I don't. I like people, all people, but not because of whether they have money, power, and influence. I like people even the little people and big fat people, because I find every person to be unique and interesting because of it. Meaning I like the diversity of personalities. I've had friends of every race, shape, color, and culture (well not every one on earth so that means I still have more new experiences awaiting me in the future). I like interacting with people on a personal level.

As for juggernauts, I'd love to find at least one coder in my life who I really clicked with. I am hoping there will be many in an open source environment. I am learning. This is new for me.

[adhitthana]

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

You ascribe way too much power to Risto. Risto didn't cause anything. Risto is not god.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

But you are the one who is idolising Risto. You think he can cause things to happen.

Added in edit:
I just checked Poloniex. 12700 BTC worth of Monero traded in the last 24 hours there. One man is not in control. One man doesn't cause this to happen.

[iamnotback]

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

You ascribe way too much power to Risto. Risto didn't cause anything. Risto is not god.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

But you are the one who is idolising Risto. You think he can cause things to happen.

At that time, he did. Check your facts. I was around when he was incessantly preaching to all the n00bs on the forum about Bitcoin to $1 million, about how he went from $100,000 to $10 million in BTC and that XMR was the ONLY ALTCOIN worth considering (meanwhile Dash and then Ethereum kicked its ass). He can't have that impact now on XMR, which is why (and because) the price is now finally higher.

I congratulate Risto on his excellent investment in Bitcoin. And the eventual rise of Monero has been great because finally "those Monero guys"[1] stopped berating everyone of the forum, which they did because they were so pissed off that their investment had sucked for such a long time while Dash and Ethereum raced ahead.

But let's not rewrite history and fool the readers.

What I disliked about Monero's community is they think they are superior to everyone else. And they think that they are entitled because they think they have the best cryptographers and set of open source participants outside of maybe Bitcoin's ecosystem. The whole "we are holier than thou" crap really alienated me from the start.

Exclusive clubs are for losers.

We are building an inclusive ecosystem. You are welcome to join. But I won't berate you for not joining. This is a free world. I claim no monopoly nor entitlement on it.

[1] Manny, Moe, and Jack to be specific. Obviously we can't hold every member in a community responsible for what some vocal members from that community do/did.

[adhitthana]

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

You ascribe way too much power to Risto. Risto didn't cause anything. Risto is not god.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

But you are the one who is idolising Risto. You think he can cause things to happen.

At that time, he did.

You might believe he did. But that doesn't mean he did. There were thousands of factors and thousands of individual investors. You have no method to isolate Risto and say Risto caused it.

Some people might have bought because Gavin Anderson liked it. Some people might have bought because they liked the technology...we could go on and on..

[iamnotback]

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

You ascribe way too much power to Risto. Risto didn't cause anything. Risto is not god.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

But you are the one who is idolising Risto. You think he can cause things to happen.

At that time, he did.

You might believe he did. But that doesn't mean he did. There were thousands of factors and thousands of individual investors. You have no method to isolate Risto and say Risto caused it.

Some people might have bought because Gavin Anderson liked it. Some people might have bought because they liked the technology...we could go on and on..

I know marketing.

[Zer0Sum]

~CfA~

Risto knows shoes.

[Spoetnik]

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

You ascribe way too much power to Risto. Risto didn't cause anything. Risto is not god.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

But you are the one who is idolising Risto. You think he can cause things to happen.

Added in edit:
I just checked Poloniex. 12700 BTC worth of Monero traded in the last 24 hours there. One man is not in control. One man doesn't cause this to happen.

Again you are colossally full of shit beyond belief.

He has run Monero since day 1.
Go read the link to the MEW topic i keep posting and tell me what you see.

Like what more can i possibly do that show you his OWN WORDS then post a link to it proving it ?
What more do you want ?

Drop the shill act.. no one.. and i mean NO ONE is buying it.
Truth is truth.. regardless of how many faggy shitcoinz you bought at Poloniex for yur ROI'z.

[Febo]

He has run Monero since day 1.

I dont think this is true.  He noticed Monero about same time as I did. maybe a week latter or earlier. And that was at least 1 month after the start.

You can go check his posts in May 2014. And you might see exact date when he found about it. I remember because I at that time joined  this forum and started more closely to learn about crypto. So I guess those moments will forever stay fresh in my memory.

[obit33]

This topic...

[BuySomeBitcoins]

Who are we to judge people ?

XMR is an excellent altcoin and is going to be great if it stays secure and have active contributors.

[iamnotback]

This topic...

That horse has more lives than a cat.

[iamnotback]

~CfA~

Risto knows shoes.

Michael Jackson is dead. Upgraded styling:

[iamnotback]

Risto has been cited along with CoinCube in a reference in my white paper:

https://gist.github.com/shelby3/67111f328822a36beb4cad1a5220eb33

[iamnotback]

Good grief, those Ristotards never cease to stink up the air:

@rpietila

Delete this post if you want, but maybe at the same time, you should rename this thread as the 'donations to the jesus delusionals'.
Maybe just pay him what he wants and wish him well, cos you're continued engagement with this divisive fruitcake, is probably not good for you right now, if ive understood your situation correctly.  

Lol, the ink blot is that Risto was (last time I checked) a more literal believer in Jesus than I am.

But don't let small details disrupt the premiss of your logik. Carry on...

Why do you arrogant motherfuckers always measure your dicks with money? Is that the only thing that matters? So when I have 100X more money than any one of you, then you will move the goalposts and claim money is overrated.

Risto seems to hang out with such great company. I'm so jealous.  

Were you also in the Monero "we are holier and superior to all others" brigade? The self-annointed kings of altcoins. The MEW goats and barons of Crypto Kongdung.

Where is that $1 million Bitcoin price prediction now.

I don't come back over here often. I can't stomach the stench of the rotting, decaying, putrid decadent air in here.

(I am by no means speaking of everyone who has posted in this thread. I will interact with you where the bad apples don't congregate)

[generalizethis]

~CfA~

Risto knows shoes.

Michael Jackson is dead. Upgraded styling:

I plan on driving this to work--in the meantime I've got a dragon.

[Spoetnik]

@Febo

I had a private talk with you on IRC earlier this year and you were friendly enough etc..
But you kept telling me you never heard of all the stuff i mentioned about Risto.
And once again.. you are here lecturing me on the guy.
I was here before both of you  

I am well aware of what has gone on since it launched.. are you ?
I gave you a couple of examples and you swiftly denied it and said oh no that's not true.
When it was and was easily verified..
Your defense of Risto and XMR is in my view INSANE.
I feel you are crooked or deceived/naive.. take your pick.

And THAT people is what i am seriously sick & fucking tired about with Monero.
FOR FUCKING YEARS we have drama central with the same usual suspects..
and 101% pure fucking denial every step of the way.

Which in case you have to be told.. that is not a good thing.
It is a symptom of dishonesty.

It gets tiring having to re-post millions of god damn fucking times the shit that went down with Monero and their cult idiots..
Only to watch the same losers sit there and say oh well.. it's all lies.

Uhh no it's not assholes.

Bottom Line:
I have serious problems with the idea of a coin trying hard to be ANON.
I believe this is a bad idea to pursue.

Even worse is the community devs and leaders of the coin who are dishonest lying scum bags !

Febo you told me David Latapie is key part of the team then the others say he is not then he is then he's not.
It just depends what we're talking about.. you all just switch gears lying your ass off playing games 24/7 all year round.
All in the hopes that idiots here at the Talk show up at Poloniex to buy XMR coinz fer teh profitz.
Yup.. just make sure to hand them your picture ID so you can buy them ANON coins  

The truth is out there.. seek it out yourselves people.

Febo you are literally acting like you are brainwashed in a cult.. can we get some deprogramming over here ?

Monero Gate Coin



Be careful following this guy people..

[obit33]

all lies

I was here before you lord protector spoetnik of the unknowledgeable, it's all lies , you're delusional...

TL;DR: noone cares about your or my opinion...

bye

[Spoetnik]

all lies

I was here before you lord protector spoetnik of the unknowledgeable, it's all lies , you're delusional...

TL;DR: noone cares about your or my opinion...

bye

Go make another account about it NOOB  

And clearly some care and others not so much.
Just remember one thing.. if you're not me ? You are doin' it wrong  

And maybe if kids having something to say they would not speak in TL;DR's ?
Scoot kid.. go count yur ROI'z

[iamnotback]

You're missing that setting the goal creates a net effect, it's no longer karate or boxing, it's mma. We aim for a perfection and achieve various degrees of success based on preferred taste--sooner or later, you will get there, or not, but all your negative energy helps

You are the one with the negative erroneous phrase "of course" in that context.

Keep trying to shoot me down with nary a veil concealing your envy to save your pathetic Moanuro and Crypo Kongdung good ole boys club of robber goats and baronistas. Keep trying in vain.

TheFascistMind = iamnotback.

The following is a rebuttal to you, rpietila, and r0ach which I wrote presciently wrote 2 years in advance, knowing that one day you'd need to read this:

One last attempt to explain how I see that the rich buys club is incongruent with the future.

I could summarize all my posts in this thread with the following outcome in the movie Braveheart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlL65LD6I4

You really should watch that and see the unexpected SWAN impale the rich boys British at the end.

Sorry guys, Monero killer-
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg8754756#msg8754756

Sorry that is just a constant size reduction and it doesn't solve the fundamental problem that ring-signatures can't be pruned, except by some other restrictions such as an expiry on coins.

We start with swans, then it gets interesting, and hard.

There IS an obliterating black swan (i.e. Taleb's unexpected long-tail statistic event) they don't see, whilst they be doing busy-bee grunt work of fixing databases for a broken design, making a gui, etc..

I am also a business angel, funding people's things ever since 2004.

And this produced how many million user products?

I have produced (one as a co-developer) three separate "million user" level products since 1980s. With a lot of goofing off vacation time in between (mea culpa).

I am fine if you don't want to come to my castle but that is the necessary condition if you want to deal with me.

I suppose this was directed to me as well as any others who aspire.

This is analogous to the inefficiency of saying that anyone who wants to buy french fries needs to travel to Belgium.

Those who are truly capable don't need any money. There will be too much money trying to be rammed down their throat.

Money is the weak thing to hold. Knowledge is strength.

My suggestion to you was to be more friendly and spread an insignificant (for you) investments around on all promising endeavors in order to be respected for your 1% instead of resented by the community. Also to give yourself more chance on not missing the swan boat when it comes. Your "Rpietila's Altcoin" thread instead of being a jovial and spirited discussion of exciting developments, should be renamed "Rpietila's Monero Membership Club". I am not upset about it, I am just relaying to you how it appears to others who are not brainwashed by "Monero is the answer".

You've already been friendly to me and you even gifted me 2 BTC. There is no problem between you and I. I am writing to gift you feedback, because in my analysis you are in the process of committing a fail and possibly a mega-fail.

Expecting busy hackers to go through personal interviews with you is I am sorry to tell from the perspective of a hacker insulting. I am not insulted, but I am telling you what sort of actions and attitude breed animosity. We build our reputations by our code, not our talking.

"Talk is cheap, show me the code"— Linus Torvalds

"Those who can't build, talk"— Eric Raymond

Your stance is fundamentally incongruent with the open source movement. Open source projects will spawn more and more granularly (smaller teams) and stored capital and top-down organization will become more and more irrelevant.

This is a virtual new economy; we only need to click a button to make an investment. We don't need to travel across the world. And we don't need to invest everything in one thing or two things, thus we don't need to know all the answers before the questions can even be asked. Creativity spawns serendipitously not as planned (even my own work lately proves this is true, because I didn't plan all the ideas I discovered along the way).

Open source is the odds of large numbers.

"Given enough eye balls, all bugs are shallow"— Eric Raymond paraphrasing Linus Torvalds

"Given enough experiments, all possibilities are achievable"— Shelby Moore III paraphrasing Eric Raymond paraphrasing Linus Torvalds

Eric Raymond noted that is the only known positive-scaling law in software engineering, i.e. that efficiency improves the more autonomous N actors involved. Design by top-down grouping or committee is not the same scaling law.

We don't have time to waste on top-down bureaucracy.

Warren Buffett doesn't do angel investing, because he wants to evaluate companies based on well established metrics. Angel investing is a game of more risky probabilities. Thus efficiency of scattershot is more important. Angel investing will become less and less like an exhaustive evaluation and more and more spontaneous and small, e.g. KickStarter. Everyone gives a little bit, not one big whale slowing everything down.

The Knowledge Age is the end of the road for large stored capital. The power-law distribution of wealth will shift to stored knowledge. Actionable knowledge will be power-law distributed. It already is. Which is why when you are searching for a needle in a haystack, don't tell the needle to jump to your castle.

P.S. I do want to have friendships and vacation in nice resorts such as castles. But that is vacation time. I can't mix business with vacation, it doesn't work. When I am coding, I need to be where ever I already am where I can code now, not tomorrow, not after a conversation, not after a glass of wine, not after ... Procrastination is the bane of software development. My best work has come when I didn't have material comforts.

I have not taken a shower in 2 months. I haven't washed my clothes, they are stink like a pig pen. I have not been outside of my room nor seen the sunshine except to restock on food.

Time is of the essence.

It doesn't matter if Paypal accepts Bitcoin because users who are not investors (e.g. especially females and the billions of impoverished) have no incentive to convert from their unit-of-account (dollars) to BTC just to pay for something. They might as well just fund their Paypal transactions with their credit card or bank account. Bitcoin will not become the unit-of-account without the blessing of the government, because it has no distribution scale.

Most of the impoverished don't have a credit card nor bank account.

The Paypal plan.

The reason Paypal couldn't just issue everyone in the developing world an account is because of jealousy thus legal and political risk. Governments would resist take over of their financial control by an overtly fascist corporation.

Peter Thiel et al are more clever.

Issue everyone a supranational digital account that is "decentralized and controlled by no one", when in fact it is centralized and controlled by the fascist powers-that-be.

Use this to force other countries into submission when they attempt to offer their own top-down centralized digital currencies, e.g. Ecuador.

The people are trapped either way in a fully traceable block chain and NWO Technocracy.

Monero (portmanteau of money+dying euro?) offers no hope of scaling to avert this rapidly developing fascist outcome.

C'est la vie. Fait accompli.

And the competing and equally devastating Apple Plan.

Any other ideas of how to scale a crypto-currency to beyond 10 million users within 3 years or less from launch?

Build it into a game that becomes a massive hit.

Note 'game' has a wider scope of context than what you might be thinking. For example, life is game.

Oh, poor little him!

Continue your fantasies please.

Sometimes I think out-of-the-box. I don't claim to be a genius. I have a reasonably high IQ (probably not as high as aminorex on standardized tests) and some different approaches. Linus Torvalds probably doesn't have as high an IQ as Eric Raymond (clearly evident by reading their respective blogs), but Linus has a skill set of being able to contain the complexity of large projects which Eric may not possess (Eric wrote this).

This is embarrassing for me and the best way for me to depersonalize this discussion is for me to stop speaking. Because I have very strong opinions.

Sorry for rocking the boat. I guess I don't know how to not speak my mind.

Edit: I had sent PMs twice to Hal telling about the treatments I am trying, because my autoimmunity and his ALS may share the autoimmunity issue. I don't know if he ever read them, and I may have been too late. Perhaps a quote from him is apropos.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2f1ijk/hal_finney_was_bitcoins_first_follower_when_you/

"When you find a lone nut doing something great, have the guts to be the first person to stand up and join in."

Watch the video!

If you emphasis on reading comprehension, the actual questions was how many processor cores is need to verify the incoming transactions + the mined block?

Since you asked, I just looked in the log file on a 4-year old Xeon server I'm using as a node. It takes approximately 0.14 seconds from the time a new transaction arrives until the time it is relayed. I believe most if not all of this processing is single threaded, which suggests approximately 7 transactions per second per core on a 4-year old CPU.

On the order-of-magnitude of 20 txs/sec per core on a late model CPU, i.e. an order-of-magnitude higher than Bitcoin (<1 tx/s) now per core but two orders-of-magnitude less than Visa (2 - 6K tx/s) now per core, means Monero (Cryptonote) can't scale to any where even close to global Visa scale and remain both decentralized for mining with fast block period (thus fast transactions), not to mention the likely order(s)-of-magnitude more scaling above that to reach ubiquitous global micro transactions and programmable contracts on the block chain.

So you would have to solve both this and the blockchain bloat in order to scale to global widespread use. It appears that one-time ring signatures are fundamentally incompatible with scaling.

Cryptonote can't encourage too much use with zero transaction fees, because it can't accept the scaling that can come with it.

I believe Zerocash has similar scaling issues. DarkCoin (and CoinJoin) has the simultaneity problem that fights scaling because to mix you need someone else who wants to mix with you at the same denominations at the same time (not mention being either theoretically defeated with jamming and/or Sybil attack on masternodes) and to perform this meeting with scaling you need global coherence on submitted txs which means either centralization (synchronicity) or no scaling.

[generalizethis]

You're missing that setting the goal creates a net effect, it's no longer karate or boxing, it's mma. We aim for a perfection and achieve various degrees of success based on preferred taste--sooner or later, you will get there, or not, but all your negative energy helps

You are the one with the negative erroneous phrase "of course" in that context.

Keep trying to shoot me down with nary a veil concealing your envy to save your pathetic Moanuro and Crypo Kongdung good ole boys club of robber goats and baronistas. Keep trying in vain.

TheFascistMind = iamnotback.

The following is a rebuttal to you, rpietila, and r0ach which I wrote presciently wrote 2 years in advance, knowing that one day you'd need to read this:

One last attempt to explain how I see that the rich buys club is incongruent with the future.

I could summarize all my posts in this thread with the following outcome in the movie Braveheart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdlL65LD6I4

You really should watch that and see the unexpected SWAN impale the rich boys British at the end.

Sorry guys, Monero killer-
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681725.msg8754756#msg8754756

Sorry that is just a constant size reduction and it doesn't solve the fundamental problem that ring-signatures can't be pruned, except by some other restrictions such as an expiry on coins.

We start with swans, then it gets interesting, and hard.

There IS an obliterating black swan (i.e. Taleb's unexpected long-tail statistic event) they don't see, whilst they be doing busy-bee grunt work of fixing databases for a broken design, making a gui, etc..

I am also a business angel, funding people's things ever since 2004.

And this produced how many million user products?

I have produced (one as a co-developer) three separate "million user" level products since 1980s. With a lot of goofing off vacation time in between (mea culpa).

I am fine if you don't want to come to my castle but that is the necessary condition if you want to deal with me.

I suppose this was directed to me as well as any others who aspire.

This is analogous to the inefficiency of saying that anyone who wants to buy french fries needs to travel to Belgium.

Those who are truly capable don't need any money. There will be too much money trying to be rammed down their throat.

Money is the weak thing to hold. Knowledge is strength.

My suggestion to you was to be more friendly and spread an insignificant (for you) investments around on all promising endeavors in order to be respected for your 1% instead of resented by the community. Also to give yourself more chance on not missing the swan boat when it comes. Your "Rpietila's Altcoin" thread instead of being a jovial and spirited discussion of exciting developments, should be renamed "Rpietila's Monero Membership Club". I am not upset about it, I am just relaying to you how it appears to others who are not brainwashed by "Monero is the answer".

You've already been friendly to me and you even gifted me 2 BTC. There is no problem between you and I. I am writing to gift you feedback, because in my analysis you are in the process of committing a fail and possibly a mega-fail.

Expecting busy hackers to go through personal interviews with you is I am sorry to tell from the perspective of a hacker insulting. I am not insulted, but I am telling you what sort of actions and attitude breed animosity. We build our reputations by our code, not our talking.

"Talk is cheap, show me the code"— Linus Torvalds

"Those who can't build, talk"— Eric Raymond

Your stance is fundamentally incongruent with the open source movement. Open source projects will spawn more and more granularly (smaller teams) and stored capital and top-down organization will become more and more irrelevant.

This is a virtual new economy; we only need to click a button to make an investment. We don't need to travel across the world. And we don't need to invest everything in one thing or two things, thus we don't need to know all the answers before the questions can even be asked. Creativity spawns serendipitously not as planned (even my own work lately proves this is true, because I didn't plan all the ideas I discovered along the way).

Open source is the odds of large numbers.

"Given enough eye balls, all bugs are shallow"— Eric Raymond paraphrasing Linus Torvalds

"Given enough experiments, all possibilities are achievable"— Shelby Moore III paraphrasing Eric Raymond paraphrasing Linus Torvalds

Eric Raymond noted that is the only known positive-scaling law in software engineering, i.e. that efficiency improves the more autonomous N actors involved. Design by top-down grouping or committee is not the same scaling law.

We don't have time to waste on top-down bureaucracy.

Warren Buffett doesn't do angel investing, because he wants to evaluate companies based on well established metrics. Angel investing is a game of more risky probabilities. Thus efficiency of scattershot is more important. Angel investing will become less and less like an exhaustive evaluation and more and more spontaneous and small, e.g. KickStarter. Everyone gives a little bit, not one big whale slowing everything down.

The Knowledge Age is the end of the road for large stored capital. The power-law distribution of wealth will shift to stored knowledge. Actionable knowledge will be power-law distributed. It already is. Which is why when you are searching for a needle in a haystack, don't tell the needle to jump to your castle.

P.S. I do want to have friendships and vacation in nice resorts such as castles. But that is vacation time. I can't mix business with vacation, it doesn't work. When I am coding, I need to be where ever I already am where I can code now, not tomorrow, not after a conversation, not after a glass of wine, not after ... Procrastination is the bane of software development. My best work has come when I didn't have material comforts.

I have not taken a shower in 2 months. I haven't washed my clothes, they are stink like a pig pen. I have not been outside of my room nor seen the sunshine except to restock on food.

Time is of the essence.

It doesn't matter if Paypal accepts Bitcoin because users who are not investors (e.g. especially females and the billions of impoverished) have no incentive to convert from their unit-of-account (dollars) to BTC just to pay for something. They might as well just fund their Paypal transactions with their credit card or bank account. Bitcoin will not become the unit-of-account without the blessing of the government, because it has no distribution scale.

Most of the impoverished don't have a credit card nor bank account.

The Paypal plan.

The reason Paypal couldn't just issue everyone in the developing world an account is because of jealousy thus legal and political risk. Governments would resist take over of their financial control by an overtly fascist corporation.

Peter Thiel et al are more clever.

Issue everyone a supranational digital account that is "decentralized and controlled by no one", when in fact it is centralized and controlled by the fascist powers-that-be.

Use this to force other countries into submission when they attempt to offer their own top-down centralized digital currencies, e.g. Ecuador.

The people are trapped either way in a fully traceable block chain and NWO Technocracy.

Monero (portmanteau of money+dying euro?) offers no hope of scaling to avert this rapidly developing fascist outcome.

C'est la vie. Fait accompli.

And the competing and equally devastating Apple Plan.

Any other ideas of how to scale a crypto-currency to beyond 10 million users within 3 years or less from launch?

Build it into a game that becomes a massive hit.

Note 'game' has a wider scope of context than what you might be thinking. For example, life is game.

Oh, poor little him!

Continue your fantasies please.

Sometimes I think out-of-the-box. I don't claim to be a genius. I have a reasonably high IQ (probably not as high as aminorex on standardized tests) and some different approaches. Linus Torvalds probably doesn't have as high an IQ as Eric Raymond (clearly evident by reading their respective blogs), but Linus has a skill set of being able to contain the complexity of large projects which Eric may not possess (Eric wrote this).

This is embarrassing for me and the best way for me to depersonalize this discussion is for me to stop speaking. Because I have very strong opinions.

Sorry for rocking the boat. I guess I don't know how to not speak my mind.

Edit: I had sent PMs twice to Hal telling about the treatments I am trying, because my autoimmunity and his ALS may share the autoimmunity issue. I don't know if he ever read them, and I may have been too late. Perhaps a quote from him is apropos.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2f1ijk/hal_finney_was_bitcoins_first_follower_when_you/

"When you find a lone nut doing something great, have the guts to be the first person to stand up and join in."

Watch the video!

If you emphasis on reading comprehension, the actual questions was how many processor cores is need to verify the incoming transactions + the mined block?

Since you asked, I just looked in the log file on a 4-year old Xeon server I'm using as a node. It takes approximately 0.14 seconds from the time a new transaction arrives until the time it is relayed. I believe most if not all of this processing is single threaded, which suggests approximately 7 transactions per second per core on a 4-year old CPU.

On the order-of-magnitude of 20 txs/sec per core on a late model CPU, i.e. an order-of-magnitude higher than Bitcoin (<1 tx/s) now per core but two orders-of-magnitude less than Visa (2 - 6K tx/s) now per core, means Monero (Cryptonote) can't scale to any where even close to global Visa scale and remain both decentralized for mining with fast block period (thus fast transactions), not to mention the likely order(s)-of-magnitude more scaling above that to reach ubiquitous global micro transactions and programmable contracts on the block chain.

So you would have to solve both this and the blockchain bloat in order to scale to global widespread use. It appears that one-time ring signatures are fundamentally incompatible with scaling.

Cryptonote can't encourage too much use with zero transaction fees, because it can't accept the scaling that can come with it.

I believe Zerocash has similar scaling issues. DarkCoin (and CoinJoin) has the simultaneity problem that fights scaling because to mix you need someone else who wants to mix with you at the same denominations at the same time (not mention being either theoretically defeated with jamming and/or Sybil attack on masternodes) and to perform this meeting with scaling you need global coherence on submitted txs which means either centralization (synchronicity) or no scaling.

Are you really moving my posts into threads that have nothing to do with the quoted material--jeeze, you have way too much free time. You should play CK, you could prove some of your theories on advertising and economy on a micro-transaction scale (IE. twenty bucks and you can be a whale, and if you are right, you can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt).

[FenrirCK]

Possibly relevant extension (Scam accusations -subforum): rpietila's Crypto Kingdom game is a scam, heavily in debt. Do not deposit funds.