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March 26, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
Last edit: March 27, 2015, 02:20:52 AM by altsheets
 #1161

question
Solved!

Sorry for the traffic, and possibly confusion
- but this weird case was seemingly simply my "test" ...
whether I have understood the concepts,
i.e. if I can really trust the output of my assetparser.py software.

I would have never expected what turned out to be the explanation in the end,
but hey - the most important thing is: We found it! And that the code can be trusted.

Thank you MaWo, for looking into this with me.
I would like to gift you some symbolic amount of my soon-to-be-launched asset for your help, PM me!

The background story is easy to tell:
I wrote an assetparser.py to prepare my own assetlaunch
- by studying at the other assets.

Analyzing the output, I stumbled over a strange data artifact:
The "real marketcap" (definition of that new observable is in my soon-to-be-published study)
... of one of the HZ assets became zero. How is that possible, as the asset had already been traded?  
So I dug deeper, and asked around in many places. nxtforum, here, slack.

On the basis of the easily available data, there was no sufficient explanation:

... so he has sold 990,000.00 assets,
In my world, he should have 9,010,000.00 assets left:
balanceQNT = 1000000000 - 90000000 - 8900000 - 100000 = 901000000
but his account shows that he still (or again?) has
balanceQNT = 1000000000 of this asset
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAccount&account=14690932713833726002
Code:
... assetBalances: [2]0:  {balanceQNT: "1000000000" asset: "9159194210388607784" ... 
Where is the flaw in my thinking?

But now ... I found the explanation!

The key was the
Quote
(or again?)
above.

However, the necessary data for checking my suspicion was a bit tricky to get,
because HZ is still lacking the useful getAssetTransfers&asset= (Nxt) function.

So tonight I created this

Workaround for getAssetTransfers&asset=
It's actually only partly an answer, because it specifically emulates an getAssetTransfers&account= but it works like this:

-> download getAccountTransactionIds&account=14690932713833726002 --> list of 310 txIds
--> then download all 310 transactions with getTransaction&transaction=
--> in the results, select by
----> only: type==2 "Colored coins"  subtype==1 "Asset transfer"
----> only: attachment.asset==9159194210388607784

For our mystery puzzle, that resulted in these two "Asset transfer" transactions:

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=5347234624369137696
quantityQNT: "1000000" sender: "14690932713833726002" timestamp: 15894761
= transfer from issuer to someone

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=16730081599467904714
quantityQNT: "100000000" recipient: "14690932713833726002" timestamp: 28783039
= transfer TO issuer from someone

(... and along the way, I spotted something essential of the overall architecture
just now: The assetId is simply the transactionId of the TX in which the asset
was issued: getTransaction ~ getAsset = cleverly constructed! Me likes!)


So the final picture is this now:

Code:
balanceQNT = 
1000000000                      # issuance
- 1000000                       # transfer from issuer
- 90000000 - 8900000 - 100000   # trades
+ 100000000                     # transfer to issuer

= 1000000000 - 1000000 - 90000000 - 8900000 - 100000 + 100000000
= 1000000000                    # equals the original issuance amount

So:

The issuer has all his issued assets ... back in his account.
Who would have thought that?

 Wink

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March 27, 2015, 01:09:58 AM
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...

The issuer has all his issued assets ... back in his account.
Who would have thought that?

 Wink

hehe nice work through!
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March 27, 2015, 01:16:50 AM
Last edit: March 27, 2015, 02:21:58 AM by altsheets
 #1163

...

The issuer has all his issued assets ... back in his account.
Who would have thought that?

 Wink

hehe nice work through!

Thanks.

And thanks to you for helping, MaWo!

All these riddles and mysteries have become such an intellectual adventure - great! And right now: ... no more questions left! I guess I can launch my asset, and publish the market analysis - soonish.

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March 27, 2015, 01:14:09 PM
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Exchange 75 NFD to 3 HZ successfully, in the same account, 3 million HZ exchange blocked, WHY?
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March 27, 2015, 03:04:35 PM
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Exchange 75 NFD to 3 HZ successfully, in the same account, 3 million HZ exchange blocked, WHY?

Simple answer: you're now waiting in line, as am I. The HZ devs decided to issue the HZ slowly, so as not to flood the market and provoke dumping. Look at your Recent Transactions: if you're in the same boat that I am, you're getting a trickle of HZ every day.

If not, you're still in the queue.






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March 27, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
 #1166

...

The issuer has all his issued assets ... back in his account.
Who would have thought that?

 Wink

hehe nice work through!

Thanks.

Thanks to you both! I'm learning a lot about the API as it pertains to the Asset Exchange.

And thanks to you for helping, MaWo!

He's helped me more than you'll ever know. Smiley






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March 27, 2015, 08:00:45 PM
 #1167

Exchange 75 NFD to 3 HZ successfully, in the same account, 3 million HZ exchange blocked, WHY?

Simple answer: you're now waiting in line, as am I. The HZ devs decided to issue the HZ slowly, so as not to flood the market and provoke dumping. Look at your Recent Transactions: if you're in the same boat that I am, you're getting a trickle of HZ every day.

If not, you're still in the queue.

This is correct.

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March 28, 2015, 10:13:26 AM
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Any problem with bounty node script? No payment today.

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March 28, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
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 we sapouse to appreciate Horizon..... Kiss

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March 28, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
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Any problem with bounty node script? No payment today.

It was dry, it's been refilled. Will run a make up on next session.

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March 29, 2015, 09:17:13 AM
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Hi any news about blockchain project and about hzxchange devlopment?
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March 29, 2015, 09:19:32 AM
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Sometime it is not bad to have 'dry' account failed to send payments;

For this last indecent of delayed payment of Node bounty, I got about 35k of HZ in my account in total in a row; Not bad, hah ? Tongue


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March 29, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
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Hi any news about blockchain project and about hzxchange devlopment?
+1 Would be nice to hear of the development progress and maybe of the effects of bringing NFD onboard. It's been a while and very quiet here.

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March 29, 2015, 01:58:49 PM
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Hi any news about blockchain project and about hzxchange devlopment?
+1 Would be nice to hear of the development progress and maybe of the effects of bringing NFD onboard. It's been a while and very quiet here.

The last weeks we worked on standardization of the HZ development and release processes.

One result of this work is a new github hz-source repo.
https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source

From now on everyone can use the github issue tracker for bug reports.
https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/issues

We also support 3rd party pull requests.
https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/pulls

Besides these we are preparing a new release with bug fixes and small improvements.
Please wait with new bug reports until after the next release. Most of the known bugs are already fixed.

Adam is working on AT/FSM.
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March 29, 2015, 04:33:22 PM
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Hello,

is there any asset in the HZ market that actually and already and presently pays dividends or something?

Thanks.
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March 29, 2015, 05:16:51 PM
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The last weeks we worked on standardization of the HZ development and release processes.

One result of this work is a new github hz-source repo.
https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source

From now on everyone can use the github issue tracker for bug reports.
https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/issues

We also support 3rd party pull requests.
https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/pulls

Besides these we are preparing a new release with bug fixes and small improvements.
Please wait with new bug reports until after the next release. Most of the known bugs are already fixed.

Adam is working on AT/FSM.

Hi, Thanks for the updates good to hear things are moving. How about HZxchange?

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March 29, 2015, 06:04:26 PM
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Adam is working on AT/FSM.


Do you mean Automated Transactions based on http://www.ciyam.org/at/at.html is coming very soon to Horizon? That's a very big development for decentralized markets! No need to keep clients open to execute transactions - a major step. Truly Horizon could be among the top 20 coin markets.

What's FSM?

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March 29, 2015, 06:12:32 PM
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In Competitive Market have to be very carefully Advance and need hard work... Smiley Smiley Smiley   

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March 29, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
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Hi any news about blockchain project and about hzxchange devlopment?
+1 Would be nice to hear of the development progress and maybe of the effects of bringing NFD onboard. It's been a while and very quiet here.

NFD merge has greatly improved the development as they have a lot of talent with coding. I know Hzxchange is in progress and updates are coming soon for other things. Smiley

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March 29, 2015, 06:34:08 PM
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Adam is working on AT/FSM.


Do you mean Automated Transactions based on http://www.ciyam.org/at/at.html is coming very soon to Horizon? That's a very big development for decentralized markets! No need to keep clients open to execute transactions - a major step. Truly Horizon could be among the top 20 coin markets.

What's FSM?

finite state machine (FSM) - It is a similar approach as AT. Adams uses 90 % of the op-codes of AT.

I not said that it will coming soon. Adam is working on it. Currently he is developing using NFD 1.3.5 testnet.  
http://testnet3.nfdcoin.com:9876/

We will have to upgrade HZ. This takes time and I also expect a longer testing period before it will be available in mainnet.
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