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July 04, 2018, 02:37:05 PM
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Received a letter from the liquidator a couple days ago referencing the progress report.... I don't understand half of what the progress report is talking about because I'm not a lawyer and I live in the US but it says there is supposed to be another hearing July 5th?

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July 29, 2018, 03:42:41 PM
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Hi, I have one simple question, I would like to get an answer from someone knowledgeable it this matter, but if you have some serious suspicions, then please feel to write them too.

Of course you can PM me if you don't want to post it publicly.

Who's in control of cryptocurrency assets of Moopay LTD from Moolah.io website/service ?

Please note that I'm not asking about Mintpal exchange/company.

Btw, here's form for Moopay creditors (page 22): https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08920347/filing-history/MzIwNDUyOTE5N2FkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0



This is different from Mintpal creditor form

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August 11, 2018, 09:39:57 AM
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Is it possible to receive back coins that was scam by Moolah Mintpal? I had bitcoins and Darkcoin aka now Dashcoin from before that I lost during the scam.
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August 12, 2018, 12:27:05 AM
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Is it possible to receive back coins that was scam by Moolah Mintpal? I had bitcoins and Darkcoin aka now Dashcoin from before that I lost during the scam.

That's difficult question, but you should send appropriate form posted in this thread and hope for the best, there is chance he hasn't sold all of his coins and maybe when faced with having to spend rest of his life in prison he'll return at least some of them.

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August 12, 2018, 05:49:47 AM
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Is it possible to receive back coins that was scam by Moolah Mintpal? I had bitcoins and Darkcoin aka now Dashcoin from before that I lost during the scam.

That's difficult question, but you should send appropriate form posted in this thread and hope for the best, there is chance he hasn't sold all of his coins and maybe when faced with having to spend rest of his life in prison he'll return at least some of them.

Yeah I thought so, I have already requested once couple years ago, and nothing happened. Just wonder if there where are new updates. and if someone else receive back some of their coins.
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August 12, 2018, 10:34:41 AM
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From what I know nobody received anything yet. If you're registered you should receive updates via (snail) mail. If you look up company number/ name in UK companies database you'll be able to see some updates to it's case.

There is also Telegram group named Mintpal (current members:16).
Newest information is that trial has been postponed and it will start no earlier than April 2019.

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September 19, 2018, 05:40:57 PM
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Kind of sucks for those of us that have actually lost a lot of crypto, and over the next years we will probably see it go much higher than it ever has been before. Just rubs salt in the wound, I am not expecting to get anything back really now although I know the police are looking into it.

Have you sent the form to the receiver yet? Send it if you haven't. People are now getting payments from the cryptsy bankruptcy, and they will eventually get them from the mintpal bankruptcy.





I think this is the receiver's address you can send the form to.


Liam Alexander Short and Graham Stuart Wolloff
Elwell Watchorn & Saxton LLP
3 Waterhouse Square
138 Holborn
LONDON
EC1N 2SW

Completely forgot about this thread, I didn't send that form off but have been in contact with police for the last year about the situation. I've been told the court hearing has been pushed back to a later date, is there much point completing that form and sending it off now? As the police have told me it's unlikely I'll get anything back, even though now they have evidence of my lost funds.

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Completely forgot about this thread, I didn't send that form off but have been in contact with police for the last year about the situation. I've been told the court hearing has been pushed back to a later date, is there much point completing that form and sending it off now? As the police have told me it's unlikely I'll get anything back, even though now they have evidence of my lost funds.

Give it a go. The worst that can happen is you waste the price of a stamp.

There might be some funds left according to page 5 of the latest liquidators progress report.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09009856/filing-history/MzIwOTY5MjM1NmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0


I thought the trial had started on September 3, 2018 at Bristol Crown Court. This is the most recent information I could find about it.

https://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/news/bath-news/former-bath-resident-ryan-kennedy-465560


However pozmu says it's been postponed until at least April 2019.


There is also Telegram group named Mintpal (current members:16).
Newest information is that trial has been postponed and it will start no earlier than April 2019.

  
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October 02, 2018, 12:28:18 AM
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Completely forgot about this thread, I didn't send that form off but have been in contact with police for the last year about the situation. I've been told the court hearing has been pushed back to a later date, is there much point completing that form and sending it off now? As the police have told me it's unlikely I'll get anything back, even though now they have evidence of my lost funds.

I think you should send the form.
I wouldn't rely on police, they may not have all the info.
Even if chances of getting funds back are slim I think it's worth sending the form as it may have impact on the trial, I'm not sure how amount stolen/ scammed will be calculated, maybe it will be based on these forms.
Bigger amount = longer sentence.
Maybe when faced with long sentence lost funds will magically reappear  Huh
Good luck.

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October 31, 2018, 06:05:20 PM
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Completely forgot about this thread, I didn't send that form off but have been in contact with police for the last year about the situation. I've been told the court hearing has been pushed back to a later date, is there much point completing that form and sending it off now? As the police have told me it's unlikely I'll get anything back, even though now they have evidence of my lost funds.

Give it a go. The worst that can happen is you waste the price of a stamp.

There might be some funds left according to page 5 of the latest liquidators progress report.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09009856/filing-history/MzIwOTY5MjM1NmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0


I thought the trial had started on September 3, 2018 at Bristol Crown Court. This is the most recent information I could find about it.

https://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/news/bath-news/former-bath-resident-ryan-kennedy-465560


However pozmu says it's been postponed until at least April 2019.


There is also Telegram group named Mintpal (current members:16).
Newest information is that trial has been postponed and it will start no earlier than April 2019.

  

Decided it is worth a go, why not.

Yes I was told by the police about the court date being postponed, I joined that MintPal Telegram group chat a few months back and post any information I find out. Having said that it's not much at all and it seems like a very slow process.

Completely forgot about this thread, I didn't send that form off but have been in contact with police for the last year about the situation. I've been told the court hearing has been pushed back to a later date, is there much point completing that form and sending it off now? As the police have told me it's unlikely I'll get anything back, even though now they have evidence of my lost funds.

I think you should send the form.
I wouldn't rely on police, they may not have all the info.
Even if chances of getting funds back are slim I think it's worth sending the form as it may have impact on the trial, I'm not sure how amount stolen/ scammed will be calculated, maybe it will be based on these forms.
Bigger amount = longer sentence.
Maybe when faced with long sentence lost funds will magically reappear  Huh
Good luck.

I think it's probably a good idea, thank you for your reply.

I hope we see a good outcome during 2019 and maybe there could be some hope for those who lost out. Good luck to you as well.

GEO, RLC & QRL.
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August 03, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
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Unfortunately all evidence against him has been dropped and he has got away with it.

It goes to show that crime pays and he will not be prosecuted and keep all funds he stole.

GEO, RLC & QRL.
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October 10, 2019, 04:22:38 PM
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The liquidator released another progress report on 12 Jul 2019. Page 6 says they are trying to secure the company assets.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09009856/filing-history/MzIzOTIyMjcwNmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0

Any further reports will be available from here.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09009856/filing-history

There's still some hope they might recover some money. Although they estimate it might take over another year to do it.

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December 16, 2019, 05:16:21 PM
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Hi to all !
Is it there any news about mintpal scam, i was robed for about 80 xmr
I got email by FERDOUS  AHMED, after my reply with wallet adress and payment ID i never get any of my coins back to me.
Is there anything i can do about it ? Right now Im in poor financial times (got baby, lost my job + lot of other things when come bad times)
that is bigest reason why I write this post, so if someone can help i will appreciate so much

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August 29, 2020, 02:36:05 PM
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The liquidator released another progress report on 08 Jul 2020.  Page 6 says they are still trying to secure the company assets.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09009856/filing-history/MzI3MjQzNTU5OGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0

Any further reports will be available from here.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09009856/filing-history
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March 15, 2021, 02:58:14 PM
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Does anyone have any updates on this saga?   

The story seems to have gone dark after Kennedy was imprisoned for rape,
but the coins he stole are now worth almost $250 Million USD and he is still potentially liable for the theft.

I'd like to hear from anyone who knows what is going on; I've emailed the various law enforcement contacts
found listed in the threads over the years, to no avail.

Thanks for any info, I'm willing to offer a nice bounty to get my coins back!



Moolah Scam on Mintpal and Missing Funds


Moolah CEO & Mintpal V2 scammer: Ryan Kennedy aka Alex Green

SysCoin claim: Kennedy Arrested

Info on claims to the liquidator...

Contact @ Avon & Somerset Police...

VICE: The guy who ruined Dogecoin

Moolah in court: Day Zero

Mintpal owner Ferdous Bhai speaks

MintpalJustice.com

...starting legal action against Moolah CEO

...Green aka Ryan Gentle still has 4000 BTC and $ from another 1500 BTC

...removed ~3,900 BTC from Mintpal V1's cold wallet

...Cashing out via Natwest bank account

...Identity theft of 'Alex Green' alias

...Chances of getting BTC back 'very likely'

...Donate legal fees for Mintpal's takedown of Ryan Gentle (verified)

...More on helping Mintpal to regain control to return BTC




DOGE Creator Ben Doernberg: The Moolah Story

...Exposing scam artist Ryan Gentle aka Alex Green

...analysis: Trail of DOGES


Former Moo employee Eoghan Hayes tells all

...3700 BTC 'lodged into a personal account of Ryan Kennedy'

...Questions Bankruptcy after 750 BTC MoolahPIE fundraiser

...SYSCoin team 'missing approximately 750 BTC'

...Green 'in complete control of the Mintpal system'

...Fires Staff

...CCN article


Moo COO Landon Merrill: 'no evidence of any wrongdoing by Moolah at this time'

...Claims 'no involvement in Mintpal'

...Became Moo's 'Public Face' so that Green could remain 'more anonymous'

...Evades questions, had 'some concerns about a few things'


Moo CEO Alex Green aka Ryan Kennedy Responds

...Denies 'vast majority' of allegations, claims name 'legally changed'

...Claims Moo core platform 'bleeding funds' due to 'bug'

...Claims 'large amounts of capital went missing', announced bankruptcy, VC rescue then 'pulled out' due to 'PR backlash'

...Confirms vol. liquidation, claims Moo already 'running out of reserves', full details in 'very near future'

...'shocked and upset'...'no criminal wrongdoing'

...Mintpal withdrawals will 'continue to be processed until all wallets are depleted'


Tracking the stolen funds!

Green emptied Mintpal V1 BTC Cold Wallet...

Green selling the BTC on LocalBitcoins...

Selling cheap on Ebay?

Chris Ellis: Crowd sourced investigation into Mintpal/Moolah using Github and the Blockchain

...More from the Blockchain

...Details

...Funds tracked to BitStamp? Update: Bitstamp say not their address.




NEWS

3700 Stolen BTC 'Likely in Hands of' Alex Green
Syscoin's 750 BTC missing from Moolah, starts legal action...
Yahoo News: 'accusations of fraud and criminal activity'
PC Mag: 'theft, fraud claims'
CoinGecko Co-Founder: MintPal is 'lost cause'
New sources verify Green's 'former scammer identity'
DOGE creators: Green 'well known internet scammer'
Moopay files for bankruptcy
Backtracks...Mintpal back 'within the next day'
DOGE creator on Moopay bankruptcy - 'sad...'
Green threatened Dogecoin creators...
Changed name by deed poll...

OFFICIAL STATEMENTS

Moolah acquires Mintpal!
Green Launches V2!
Shuts down V2, files for bankruptcy!
...denies acquisition
...resigns
...still Tweeting!
Claims Alts worth 2065 BTC returned
Allegations '...are getting rather ridiculous'
...claims to have been 'in another country for 2 weeks'

MOOLAH

Team structure
Moolah holding 250 BTC Syscoin escrow
..accused of Ponzi scheme
..former employee speaks
..sys admin distances: 'It wasn't me'
Ongoing legal action
Total funds worth 5,200 BTC missing

LINKS

Moolah Twitter
Mintpal
Moola Reddit
Mintpal Twitter
Moolah.io
blog.moolah.io
trade.moolah.io

ACTION

UK CyberCrime Action Fraud +44-300-123-2040
HM Courts & Tribunals MoneyClaim

MOOLAH CEO

DOGE exposes: Ryan Kennedy
...leaks video
...ID confirmed on Twitter
...Change of name deed
...'solicited more than 750 BTC' from DOGE users
'10 years of scamming' (NSFW)
...2013: Multiple aliases & companies...
...2012: Ryan Kennedy
...2006: Ryan Gentle
Started fundraiser for 'mental health awareness'
'taking money from trusting members'
StopRyan @ BlogSpot
StopRyan.org
...hacked!
BCT User: Lemon
...accused of 'taking over 500 BTC'
...defaulted on loan
...again
LemonadeDev 'hero of usenet'
BTCFaucet posts
Court: 12 months restraining order
Facebook
LinkedIn

MINTPAL ACQUISITION

Moopay Ltd 'acquires' Mintpal
Green: '...acquisition'
Mintpal owner: 'sold to Moopay Ltd'
Green now: 'we do not own it'

COMPANIES

Mintpal Ltd
Moopay Ltd
Moolah.io Inc. - US subsiduary
Torihiki Ltd – Holding Company
                                          
PAPER TRAIL

Mintpal Ltd: Special Resolution
Torihiki Ltd – Incorporation doc
...Green owns 48%
...claims Torihiki has 'ended all association' with MintPal.
(thanks to everyone who provided info)


INFO:

If you have missing funds from the recent Mintpal / Moolah debacle, please report it here.  And if you want to, say how many are missing.  Then if you have any luck getting missing coins back, please share too.

The goal of this thread is to provide a place where people can share info on the Mintpal situation openly and without censorship or filtering so we can build an accurate picture of what's really happening.

If we can get enough information and people together, we can get a criminal investigation started to see what really happened and maybe recoup funds.

Please repost this thread, first we need information as to what the picture is on how many coins have gone missing.

NOTE: Coins need to be 'left on an exchange' in orders so you can buy/sell coins or there wouldn't be any liquidity, and for users with high trade volume this can be a lot, there is no blame in this.  Even people who take precautions loose coins when exchanges go bad, implying all users are careless when they have money stolen doesn't help anybody.

REPORTING GUIDELINES:

Update: I am not updating the figures right now as too hard to match any returned funds to previous reports that they were missing, but please keep reporting so the missing funds are documented in the thread and the information is on record.  

Some alts have been returned but BTC still missing, and many people still have zero balances, can't withdraw or can't login, and as usual support tickets are being completely ignored by Moolah and they won't provide any actual details on the real situation.

Once we know whether Green is going to return the missing BTC, I will start generating the report on that so we can do a final tally of what is missing.

Thanks

MISSING COINS REPORT #1:

(From when Mintpal V2 was taken offline due to 'critical bug')
      
   
# USERS REPORTING: 97 out of 70,000         
         
TOTAL MISSING (IN BTC)      412.89   BTC
         
MISSING BY COIN:         
         
BTC   167.28      
DRK   4,501      
XMR   8,681      
KARM   306,286,000      
TES   107,532      
EMC2   250,000      
DOGE   4,305,000      
CINNI   119,796      
UTC   29,629      
WC   961,322      
SYS   99,250      
CLOAK   6,600      
FLT   4,181,584      
BC   31,600      
ENRG   1,501,000      
MYR   5,407,000      
USDE   180,000      
PND   76,950,000      
LTC   33      
FAIR   25,000      
ARI   792,679      
SAT2   12,000      
CAIX   9,159      
MIN   9,600      
CRYPT   1,000      
VRC   10,432      
XC   5,052      
SDC   150      
UNO   255      
HIRO   3,356,699      
MZC   1,300,000      
SUPER   30,000         
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March 19, 2021, 01:28:28 PM
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Does anyone have any updates on this saga?   

The story seems to have gone dark after Kennedy was imprisoned for rape,
but the coins he stole are now worth almost $250 Million USD and he is still potentially liable for the theft.

I'd like to hear from anyone who knows what is going on; I've emailed the various law enforcement contacts
found listed in the threads over the years, to no avail.

Thanks for any info, I'm willing to offer a nice bounty to get my coins back!


Still getting occasional progress report letter from the liquidator saying they're working on it, last I knew there were only between 30-40 verified creditors that were owed on the list... I'm fairly certain in typical lawyer fashion they're just dragging their feet at this point to run up their cut of the funds if they eventually recover anything

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March 19, 2021, 03:18:14 PM
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Thanks for the reply!   I finally got an email with the application to sign up as a creditor --- yesterday!

Is there any info on the status of Greene?  I take it he is still imprisoned for rape?

I'm hoping that the creditors are people who owned other BTC at the time and who now have
the means to keep tabs on Greene and pursue charges and coin recovery once he gets out.  We're talking
about a large value, it seems there is clear evidence he took the coins.   

Is there a statue of limitations that applies here? 

Have the police monitored his communications with the outside world, or has he been allowed to,
say, send private messages with blockchain addresses which could allow others to move the 4K BTC
elsewhere?

Let's keep this issue alive, this is not someone who should be allowed to walk free with no liability for
a quarter Billion $  worth of stolen currency ...
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Thanks for the reply!   I finally got an email with the application to sign up as a creditor --- yesterday!

Is there any info on the status of Greene?  I take it he is still imprisoned for rape?

I'm hoping that the creditors are people who owned other BTC at the time and who now have
the means to keep tabs on Greene and pursue charges and coin recovery once he gets out.  We're talking
about a large value, it seems there is clear evidence he took the coins.   

Is there a statue of limitations that applies here? 

Have the police monitored his communications with the outside world, or has he been allowed to,
say, send private messages with blockchain addresses which could allow others to move the 4K BTC
elsewhere?

Let's keep this issue alive, this is not someone who should be allowed to walk free with no liability for
a quarter Billion $  worth of stolen currency ...


Please help! I had 1.46 millioin dogecoin and am trying to figure out who to contact to make a claim for it!
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May 06, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
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I received this email today:

Hi Zach,

Really sorry but the case was discontinued by the Crown Prosecution Service some time ago, due to evidential difficulties

Kind Regards
Charlotte

Charlotte Suter
Detective Constable

Fraud Team, Complex Crime Unit  |  Avon and Somerset Police
Police & Fire HQ, Valley Road, Portishead, North Somerset, BS20 8QJ

Tel  01278 646478  |  Ext 46478
Email  Charlotte.Suter@avonandsomerset.police.uk
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So it just ended up?
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