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June 11, 2016, 10:34:35 PM
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If I  opensource my work on the nichehashminer,the donators will get the spreadcoinminer for free.

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WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? --

A quote from Rodney King.  I hope this recent agreement (above) silences the sometimes hateful critics that pop up when sp_ codes something useful.       --scryptr

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June 11, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
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From what I can tell, NiceHash spurred other devs to create improved products.  I don't see their investment as a fork in the ass at all.  In fact, I'm certain that NiceHash is getting more than their money back in mining fees from the improved hash rates of their customers. 

This is a Win-Win scenario for Nicehash and their customers.  It's just good business.  It's actually more than just a win-win for NiceHash and customers.  This is win-win-win-win... now that it has spurred mining and blockchain expansion throughout the crypto-coin community.

Win-win, win-win-win-win and crypto-coin community. Haha!


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June 11, 2016, 11:56:11 PM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".
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June 12, 2016, 12:10:42 AM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Good job scratching the surface and describing any economic tech with a fraction of the thoughtfulness it deserves.  The same could be said for any major market.  I guess we'll always have the nay-saying trolls.

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June 12, 2016, 12:14:35 AM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

I don't agree. Nicehash is an exchange that trades in hash. They don't produce any they just trade what already
exists. They have no effect on the overall network hash rate. If all miners were to leave nicehash they would
go mine in a multipool with little effect overall.

Farms and mining rental services can do more damage, IMO, because they produce hash.

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June 12, 2016, 12:29:26 AM
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Nothing against nicehash, looks like a fair market to me. I really loved buying cheap 1GH of X11 back in may 2014.

But the idea about sp going open and suddenly there would rain free money for everyone...
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June 12, 2016, 02:00:24 AM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Yup, Nicehash was the beginning of complete commercialization of altcoins. It'd be a bit different if hashrate was bought by real renters... but it's all bots. They try to drive the price as low as possible with market manipulation. It doesn't encourage a fair and free market.

It killed pretty much every altcoin niche that they have a algo for. Anyone could essentially be a miner with no costs associated with it (hardware upkeep, electricity) and miners themselves sold their hash to the lowest bidders for coins that produce the most money.

Nicehash changed things drastically when they showed up like two years ago and became big.

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June 12, 2016, 02:32:25 AM
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I don't find a linux version of the Nanashi Meiyo-Meijin's ccminer 1.7.6, just the Windows.
Are the sources available ?
I"ll make the compilation for my Linux RIG.

sources at nicehash git:

https://github.com/nicehash/ccminer-sp

The nanashi file names are confusing ccminer-windows* are the source files.

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June 12, 2016, 11:21:27 AM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Nicehash, service can be used constructively for the benefit of algos, often you can get discount on new ALT Coin launches, people take their BTC there and put in a contract and mine hold that Alt Coin, when they don't want to buy GPU's or ASIC hardware.

Mainly, Nicehash was put together when electricity prices in Europe where sky-high (two years ago electricity was $0.21 per kwh in the UK). Now electricity prices are more competitive $0.13 per kwh  Smiley

So, Europeans would buy hash at Nicehash from people who lived in cheap electricity areas; this is the main reason cloudmining took off as well.

Other pools like Yaamp and few others where the main reason for depressing Alt Coins. All of these mining pools eventually went bankrupt because they depress Alt Coin prices, which is why you probably missed the real culprits.

Now, with Alt Coin prices recovering they've come back with a pool like Zpool.CA.

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June 12, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Nicehash, service can be used constructively for the benefit of algos, often you can get discount on new ALT Coin launches, people take their BTC there and put in a contract and mine hold that Alt Coin, when they don't want to buy GPU's or ASIC hardware.

Mainly, Nicehash was put together when electricity prices in Europe where sky-high (two years ago electricity was $0.21 per kwh in the UK). Now electricity prices are more competitive $0.13 per kwh  Smiley

So, Europeans would buy hash at Nicehash from people who lived in cheap electricity areas; this is the main reason cloudmining took off as well.

Other pools like Yaamp and few others where the main reason for depressing Alt Coins. All of these mining pools eventually went bankrupt because they depress Alt Coin prices, which is why you probably missed the real culprits.

Now, with Alt Coin prices recovering they've come back with a pool like Zpool.CA.



Those pools disappeared because Nicehash is the mother of all auto-switching pools. It's essentially crowd sourced algo switching. Whatever is paying the most gets switched to. At least with auto-switching pools they had to add coins. Essentially every coin in existence was added to Nicehash.

Don't misunderstand the market on Nicehash. If you're a miner, the market there wants to pay you AS LITTLE as possible. People purchasing hash there don't want to pay you as much as you can make say mining Lyra2, they want to pay you as little as they can and still get hashrate. This artificially depresses miners and the people purchasing hash there are usually bots or normal miners that just want to net the difference.

I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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June 12, 2016, 06:28:31 PM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Nicehash, service can be used constructively for the benefit of algos, often you can get discount on new ALT Coin launches, people take their BTC there and put in a contract and mine hold that Alt Coin, when they don't want to buy GPU's or ASIC hardware.

Mainly, Nicehash was put together when electricity prices in Europe where sky-high (two years ago electricity was $0.21 per kwh in the UK). Now electricity prices are more competitive $0.13 per kwh  Smiley

So, Europeans would buy hash at Nicehash from people who lived in cheap electricity areas; this is the main reason cloudmining took off as well.

Other pools like Yaamp and few others where the main reason for depressing Alt Coins. All of these mining pools eventually went bankrupt because they depress Alt Coin prices, which is why you probably missed the real culprits.

Now, with Alt Coin prices recovering they've come back with a pool like Zpool.CA.



Those pools disappeared because Nicehash is the mother of all auto-switching pools. It's essentially crowd sourced algo switching. Whatever is paying the most gets switched to. At least with auto-switching pools they had to add coins. Essentially every coin in existence was added to Nicehash.

Don't misunderstand the market on Nicehash. If you're a miner, the market there wants to pay you AS LITTLE as possible. People purchasing hash there don't want to pay you as much as you can make say mining Lyra2, they want to pay you as little as they can and still get hashrate. This artificially depresses miners and the people purchasing hash there are usually bots or normal miners that just want to net the difference.

That's what a market is, buyers want to pay the least and sellers want to charge the most. There is nothing artificial about it.
Mining at nicehash is attractive because you know exactly how much you will get: no luck, no orphans, no waiting for confirmation.
no exchange risk. Some people are willing to accept a lower payout for reliability.

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June 12, 2016, 08:08:01 PM
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Not a fan of Nicehash either, in the unlikely event I wish to rent my rigs out, I'll use MRR.

@SP.  If you are going to give your Spreadminer out for free to donors of your other projects.  What are you going to give to the original donors to the Spreadcoin project?
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June 12, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
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I have done an ureleased 8% increase in blake2s.

Maybe you will get the decred #9 or blake2s.

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June 12, 2016, 09:34:37 PM
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I am sorry to say that but nicehash actually UTTERLY destroys any coin who can't take their daily big ass dump.

The service is geared towards greed. Anybody who mines there doesn't give a shit about the coin he is mining.

Crypto is a re- and evolution and they hinder it with their " dumb/p service".

Nicehash, service can be used constructively for the benefit of algos, often you can get discount on new ALT Coin launches, people take their BTC there and put in a contract and mine hold that Alt Coin, when they don't want to buy GPU's or ASIC hardware.

Mainly, Nicehash was put together when electricity prices in Europe where sky-high (two years ago electricity was $0.21 per kwh in the UK). Now electricity prices are more competitive $0.13 per kwh  Smiley

So, Europeans would buy hash at Nicehash from people who lived in cheap electricity areas; this is the main reason cloudmining took off as well.

Other pools like Yaamp and few others where the main reason for depressing Alt Coins. All of these mining pools eventually went bankrupt because they depress Alt Coin prices, which is why you probably missed the real culprits.

Now, with Alt Coin prices recovering they've come back with a pool like Zpool.CA.



Those pools disappeared because Nicehash is the mother of all auto-switching pools. It's essentially crowd sourced algo switching. Whatever is paying the most gets switched to. At least with auto-switching pools they had to add coins. Essentially every coin in existence was added to Nicehash.

Don't misunderstand the market on Nicehash. If you're a miner, the market there wants to pay you AS LITTLE as possible. People purchasing hash there don't want to pay you as much as you can make say mining Lyra2, they want to pay you as little as they can and still get hashrate. This artificially depresses miners and the people purchasing hash there are usually bots or normal miners that just want to net the difference.

That's what a market is, buyers want to pay the least and sellers want to charge the most. There is nothing artificial about it.
Mining at nicehash is attractive because you know exactly how much you will get: no luck, no orphans, no waiting for confirmation.
no exchange risk. Some people are willing to accept a lower payout for reliability.

If you mine on a bigger pool there is very little variance. It's not hard to find a good pool if you spend a little bit of time looking around.

I mean I like that they're trying to make sure everyone is on the same footing as far as hashrate goes. That's in their best interest though. Keeping their miners employed and keeping their 'pool' hashrate up makes sure they stay competitive with other pools.

I buy private Nvidia miners. Send information and/or inquiries to my PM box.
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June 12, 2016, 10:04:13 PM
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Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.

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June 13, 2016, 12:26:51 AM
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Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.
Does that mean pascals are not good for mining or we will wait for someone to write kernals for them?
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June 13, 2016, 05:57:04 AM
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Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.

are you going to release a public miner for pascal, or it will be all private?
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June 13, 2016, 08:42:01 AM
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Good news for the maxwell owners.. The sp-mod kernals are not fast on the pascal chips. I think it's because the kernals are recompiled from the ptx assembly by the driver with the slow NVIDIA compiler. My bins are compute 5.0 and 5.2 only and created with my homemade compiler.

sp public or even tpruvot will be more efficient on pascal than your priv on maxwell ;-)

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June 13, 2016, 09:12:31 AM
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16nm vs 28nm. Difficult to compete with that. I will not do any public pascal optimalizations yet. Perhaps private in the future.

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