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March 03, 2017, 07:22:26 PM Last edit: March 03, 2017, 08:04:41 PM by Lucky - Luciano |
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Spreadcoin is launching masternodes just like dash. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480You can buy a faster miner for only 0.05BTC (spreadminer sp-mod #10) Support the coin, and the network, and earn a few bucks as well.. More profitable than most other coins if you have a few rigs. Is there a free version of this miner (I have only 2 x nVIDIA 1070 so did not economical to buy Sp mod )?
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Spreadcoin is launching masternodes just like dash. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480You can buy a faster miner for only 0.05BTC (spreadminer sp-mod #10) Support the coin, and the network, and earn a few bucks as well.. More profitable than most other coins if you have a few rigs. Is there a free version of this miner (I have only 2 x nVIDIA 1070 so did not economical to buy Sp mod )? Forget about mining spreadcoin with a low amount of gpu, you need at least 30-50 of them to make it viable if im not mistaken.
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March 03, 2017, 09:42:27 PM |
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yeah but you need serious hash now to find decent amount of block...
i was making 1k coins a day before, they ruined my party...
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March 04, 2017, 12:49:04 AM |
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nice rates on the gtx 1070 today as well.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F2e5t7a1.png&t=665&c=mV8SKUPUJoy-kA) Same as always. 1.7 bucks, if you're lucky. I wonder if you make this by purpose, or if you really don't understand a lot of mining logics, rune. No offense, but I repeat you another time: you need to take in account the net hashrate on a daily basis. Difficulty it's at 14, with a rate of 0.00003, with a speed of 8400 (a common oced 1070 in a multigpu environment) and without a buy wall (so you can sell at sub 0.00003). Lbry it's even more profitable than this, right now. Btw I agree about the spr potential, it's a good buy, and when they will release the masternodes, we'll have a real pump. Today we've just seen the awakening
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March 04, 2017, 03:53:16 AM |
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Same as always. 1.7 bucks, if you're lucky.
I wonder if you make this by purpose, or if you really don't understand a lot of mining logics, rune.
No offense, but I repeat you another time: you need to take in account the net hashrate on a daily basis. Difficulty it's at 14, with a rate of 0.00003, with a speed of 8400 (a common oced 1070 in a multigpu environment) and without a buy wall (so you can sell at sub 0.00003). Lbry it's even more profitable than this, right now.
Btw I agree about the spr potential, it's a good buy, and when they will release the masternodes, we'll have a real pump. Today we've just seen the awakening
He's just trying to sell his miner.
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March 04, 2017, 05:11:34 AM Last edit: March 04, 2017, 05:22:45 AM by bensam1231 |
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Yeah, spreadcoin difficulty doubled today. Still the most profitable thing to mine, but considering how sensitive it is to being mined, it'll easily get over saturated, which is why I haven't been interested in buying the miner. crypto is up and down, now it's amd again, this is not a valid reason for me to choose amd, they have only etheruem now, which is again luck that its value increased randomly...
next time will be lbry or spreadcoin or zcash(amd is not that great here or at best the same cost per watt...), and will be talking about nvidia is better again...no point in these argument
also it's only because clymore didn't release the dual mining pascal for nvidia...
Have you heard of the Claymore Equihash miner? Do you know the whole reason Equihash is more profitable right now is because AMD miners left Equihash for Eth+Pasc. It was more profitable before. This isn't a seesaw. The Nvidia hashrate isn't going to magically disappear. People aren't going to sell off their hardware, so it wont become magically more profitable for Nvidia, unless either AMD hashrate hops off, there is some sort of new highly profitable coin for Nvidia, or a new miner comes out. Those are the only ways. All three of those things are very hard to come by and the only reason AMD hashrate hoped off was because of the new miner Claymore released with Eth+Pasc. Claymore didn't release dual mining for Pascal? I don't get what you mean by that. It's probably quite profitable, I pointed that out already, but once again it's not two times more profitable or anywhere close. well look i was right it's spreadcoin time as i said... yes the dual mining from clymore is not working for nvidia but only on amd, i tried to dual mine and all i get is zero hash on pascal and only ethereum working right He's probably referring to something like coil whine and it happens to be that the GPU is using just enough power where it becomes audible and resonates. Nothing really to do with the miner.
nope, with spreadminer sp 9 there is not such problem, no noise at all, and it doesn't matter what power limit i set, with this version instead there is even with 60 PL, but i'm sure it will go away it's because the card is new as bathrobehero said What does Spreadcoin have to do with anything of what we were talking about? Spreadcoin is another tiny niche coin that can barely support any hashrate. SP was the one that kept bringing it back up as well. Yeah, Eth+Pasc doesn't work, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about once again... Talking about markets and too much Nvidia hashrate and then you just randomly talk about the miner not working for Nvidia (which I already mentioned). Depending on how much and how well a GPU is utilized, it's entirely possible to make coils whine or emit weird sounds from power delivery on the cards as they can start to reverberate with the energy going through them (put your hand on a, well shielded, high voltage power cable sometime, you can feel it vibrate, it's the same thing on a smaller scale).
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March 04, 2017, 06:24:18 AM |
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well it can support my hashrate, since i don't have a huge farm, i'm happy with it
and yes if dual mining with pascal was possible for nvidia it would have delivered a better profit for a 1060 for example, so yes it hash everything to do with it
maybe you forgot that we were talking about nvidia vs amd profitability, and that amd is only better because of dual eth+pasc...
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March 04, 2017, 07:41:11 AM |
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nice rates on the gtx 1070 today as well.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F2e5t7a1.png&t=665&c=mV8SKUPUJoy-kA) Same as always. 1.7 bucks, if you're lucky. I wonder if you make this by purpose, or if you really don't understand a lot of mining logics, rune. No offense, but I repeat you another time: you need to take in account the net hashrate on a daily basis. Difficulty it's at 14, with a rate of 0.00003, with a speed of 8400 (a common oced 1070 in a multigpu environment) and without a buy wall (so you can sell at sub 0.00003). Lbry it's even more profitable than this, right now. Btw I agree about the spr potential, it's a good buy, and when they will release the masternodes, we'll have a real pump. Today we've just seen the awakening Looks fine but if i added cost electricity it does not look so rosy.
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March 04, 2017, 09:41:37 AM |
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nice rates on the gtx 1070 today as well.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F2e5t7a1.png&t=665&c=mV8SKUPUJoy-kA) Same as always. 1.7 bucks, if you're lucky. I wonder if you make this by purpose, or if you really don't understand a lot of mining logics, rune. No offense, but I repeat you another time: you need to take in account the net hashrate on a daily basis. Difficulty it's at 14, with a rate of 0.00003, with a speed of 8400 (a common oced 1070 in a multigpu environment) and without a buy wall (so you can sell at sub 0.00003). Lbry it's even more profitable than this, right now. Btw I agree about the spr potential, it's a good buy, and when they will release the masternodes, we'll have a real pump. Today we've just seen the awakening Looks fine but if i added cost electricity it does not look so rosy. Fact checking please Difficulty is more than double, precisely at 14.82, that means 1.9$ with 8.4MH/s (avg REAL value). Lbry has comparable rates
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March 04, 2017, 11:37:41 AM |
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I have mined spreadcoin with 3 cards for a week. 1x1070 and 2x970. (18mhash). I now have more than $50 worth of.spreadcoin.
The calculator showed $2.8 per day for the 1070, but i got more than $4..
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March 04, 2017, 11:43:57 AM |
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well of course the diff raised yesterday, if you mined 3 weeks ago when it was much lower, and with today price you would end up with a higher return, but this is called luck...
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March 04, 2017, 01:22:38 PM |
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well of course the diff raised yesterday, if you mined 3 weeks ago when it was much lower, and with today price you would end up with a higher return, but this is called luck...
The point is that nobody knows how much will earn tomorrow. The calculators can estimate your profit, but wi never be accurate..
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March 04, 2017, 04:03:32 PM |
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well it can support my hashrate, since i don't have a huge farm, i'm happy with it
and yes if dual mining with pascal was possible for nvidia it would have delivered a better profit for a 1060 for example, so yes it hash everything to do with it
maybe you forgot that we were talking about nvidia vs amd profitability, and that amd is only better because of dual eth+pasc...
You can't just copy what someone says and decide that it's also applicable against them. You were arguing that Nvidia was still very much relevant as far as hashrate goes... That's not true. Even if we had a Pasc+Eth miner (which we don't and also should be factored in that Claymore supports AMD first and foremost), the cards would still be 2x as expensive for not even close to double hashrate.
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March 04, 2017, 04:23:54 PM |
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well it can support my hashrate, since i don't have a huge farm, i'm happy with it
and yes if dual mining with pascal was possible for nvidia it would have delivered a better profit for a 1060 for example, so yes it hash everything to do with it
maybe you forgot that we were talking about nvidia vs amd profitability, and that amd is only better because of dual eth+pasc...
You can't just copy what someone says and decide that it's also applicable against them. You were arguing that Nvidia was still very much relevant as far as hashrate goes... That's not true. Even if we had a Pasc+Eth miner (which we don't and also should be factored in that Claymore supports AMD first and foremost), the cards would still be 2x as expensive for not even close to double hashrate. do it with a 1060, with dual mining eth+pascal, the earning would be the same as one 480 and they cost the same i don't care about how much they cost in other country, here they cost the same around 200 euro we all know that a 1070 is better because of density you need to pay for this bonus...in fact the 1060 already is better in roi than a 1070, you don't even need to look at amd to beat the 1070
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March 04, 2017, 06:38:01 PM |
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I have mined spreadcoin with 3 cards for a week. 1x1070 and 2x970. (18mhash). I now have more than $50 worth of.spreadcoin.
The calculator showed $2.8 per day for the 1070, but i got more than $4..
You're talking about trading, not mining (daily revenue). What you fail to realize is that in a multigpu environment, up to 6/7 vga in a farm, the clock frequency on average is far less than the one you always report with a single-gpu screen. With the algo SpreadX11, if you go past 1800/1830 MHz on avg it crashes; the reason is the algo switching, that forces the chip to go past 2035 MHz, and it hangs. Every algo is different, this one it's a bit complex to manage.
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March 04, 2017, 07:27:13 PM |
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it doesn't crash for me it run stable at 9500KH 2000-2100 core, but consumption is too high, i prefer 9MH at 18xx core(already few days running at this rate, perfectly stable), the onyl thing is the stupid noise...
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I have mined spreadcoin with 3 cards for a week. 1x1070 and 2x970. (18mhash). I now have more than $50 worth of.spreadcoin.
The calculator showed $2.8 per day for the 1070, but i got more than $4..
You're talking about trading, not mining (daily revenue). What you fail to realize is that in a multigpu environment, up to 6/7 vga in a farm, the clock frequency on average is far less than the one you always report with a single-gpu screen. With the algo SpreadX11, if you go past 1800/1830 MHz on avg it crashes; the reason is the algo switching, that forces the chip to go past 2035 MHz, and it hangs. Every algo is different, this one it's a bit complex to manage. Different models have different stable clocks though. Algo switching doesn't crash cards, unless you use an OC that won't work with some algos. That is why I use the lowest stable OC. Otherwise, algo switching doesn't push your card to 2035, there's no reason to do so. You might not close ccminer properly before an algo switch maybe?
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March 05, 2017, 12:57:14 AM |
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You're talking about trading, not mining (daily revenue).
No need to dump your mined coins every day.. My farm have had more than 10% of the lbry hashrate for a while now. I might sell when the price goes up 300-1000%
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March 05, 2017, 05:03:28 AM Last edit: March 05, 2017, 05:13:40 AM by Nikolaj |
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it doesn't crash for me it run stable at 9500KH 2000-2100 core, but consumption is too high, i prefer 9MH at 18xx core(already few days running at this rate, perfectly stable), the onyl thing is the stupid noise...
I've got 9 types of gtx 1070's.. This is the basis of my statements in matter. You can't generalize with a single tipology of vga. I've got too your g1 model, but the others are very different. It's also worth to be considered that the real efficiency of gtx 1070 derives from the wingle 8 pin PCIE versions, because ot the capped TDP amount. An sjs or amp extreme can lift higher than 1800/1850 MHz on average (from 8.4 to 8.7MH/s eventually) but with very bad efficiency (up to 220W in certain scenarios, opposed to 155W of a single 8 pin one). These are the reasons why I am not interested in models that have got 2 power connectors. From 8.4 to 9.4 we've got a theroretical performance increase of 11% on spr, with a giant loss in efficiency. The same happens with lbry, where it's even worst (less % gain in performance, similar efficiency loss) You're talking about trading, not mining (daily revenue).
No need to dump your mined coins every day.. My farm have had more than 10% of the lbry hashrate for a while now. I might sell when the price goes up 300-1000% Good for you, but these aren't day to day profit analysis ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I would be cautious with lbry if I were you, btw. Holding this coin have brought a massive loss to many. It've been a lot better to sell on a daily basis I have mined spreadcoin with 3 cards for a week. 1x1070 and 2x970. (18mhash). I now have more than $50 worth of.spreadcoin.
The calculator showed $2.8 per day for the 1070, but i got more than $4..
You're talking about trading, not mining (daily revenue). What you fail to realize is that in a multigpu environment, up to 6/7 vga in a farm, the clock frequency on average is far less than the one you always report with a single-gpu screen. With the algo SpreadX11, if you go past 1800/1830 MHz on avg it crashes; the reason is the algo switching, that forces the chip to go past 2035 MHz, and it hangs. Every algo is different, this one it's a bit complex to manage. Different models have different stable clocks though. Algo switching doesn't crash cards, unless you use an OC that won't work with some algos. That is why I use the lowest stable OC. Otherwise, algo switching doesn't push your card to 2035, there's no reason to do so. You might not close ccminer properly before an algo switch maybe? The algo switching it's internal to the SpreadX11 algorithm (hashing functions). It's not about closing ccminer ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . In a multigpu environment, with an high number of models and versions, it's hard to find the highest stable clock (let's call it HSC), and this leads to the need of a proper testing, which is a bit complex given the absence of a pool in this case (due the peculiar decentralized mining process, one of the key elements of this amazing project). Spr it's very undervalued, the technology behind it it's one of the best concepts in the markets.
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