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well, I might be one of not many but here is my say:
every bitcoin investment is a high risk venture. It is unregulated and mostly anonymous so legal actions are complicated. This gives perfect scam opportunity. But at this occasion we have to assume that FC's disappearance harmed as much us investors as it did harm rest of AM owners, rockminer and partially James from Havelock. The fact that them people are coming back with a global compensation scheme is unique and deserves some credit. I am going to take the offer and swallow the loss. It is a lot better than what it did happen with others - BFL, KNC, Hasie, Gaw and many more - there ppl were left with big rounded zero.
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runam0k
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March 26, 2015, 09:36:50 AM |
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The issuer of AMHashLC will look into the legal enforcement options against what they consider the responsible parties. By offering AMHashLC as a swap, the issuer of AMHashLC will hold the corresponding contract rights. So presumably there is a reasonable chance of recovery? Where did you get it from? For a minute I thought AMHashLC had been set up to buy all the debts and make BTC by recovering more than they spend, you know, like how it works in the real world. What can I say, I've been working some very long hours lately. I forgot I was in Bitcoinland.  |
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Puppet
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March 26, 2015, 10:09:09 AM |
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AM1 was once 4BTC/share. now its 0.01BTC, thats <1% of the value it once held. Friedcat ran off with the other 99.8%
Ahrm.. AM1 traded around 0.1 BTC long before FC vanished. |
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alienesb
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March 26, 2015, 10:55:09 AM |
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Meh, I'll take something over nothing because it's better than I got from several other high-profile scams.
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elasticband
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March 26, 2015, 11:00:33 AM |
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Meh, I'll take something over nothing because it's better than I got from several other high-profile scams.
That is why they get away with it so easy and it continues to happen sadly. Its easier to roll over and accept their terms than to go chasing ghosts. |
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AirWolf
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Havelock robbed me 170BTC
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March 26, 2015, 11:09:11 AM |
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This can even be part of the scam, in fact they are returning (in installments) only 1/4 of the original investment, so fake everything, let the victims panic, despair, etc and then come up with this offer to make it "legal".
Perfect...
Also, why do we should believe in their word that they are going to pay, after what happened?, what if they "fry a cat" again and fly?, this time without any chance of legal recourse?
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HAVELOCK ROBBED ME MORE THAN 170BTC - BEWARE OF THIS THIEVES!
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flame1012
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March 26, 2015, 04:21:13 PM |
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This can even be part of the scam, in fact they are returning (in installments) only 1/4 of the original investment, so fake everything, let the victims panic, despair, etc and then come up with this offer to make it "legal".
Perfect...
Also, why do we should believe in their word that they are going to pay, after what happened?, what if they "fry a cat" again and fly?, this time without any chance of legal recourse?
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March 26, 2015, 05:36:20 PM |
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The shares are sitting there doing nothing anyways. Might as well convert and get something. If it turns out to be a double scam, we wont lose anything we havent already lost and you can still pursue legal action.
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7loko7
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March 26, 2015, 05:40:04 PM |
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Did somebody already transferred shares to AMHASHLC?
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cesmak
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March 26, 2015, 05:50:49 PM |
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Did somebody already transferred shares to AMHASHLC?
Looking at havelock page of the founds https://www.havelockinvestments.com/funds.php it seems that there are 315,992 swapped.... |
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AirWolf
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March 26, 2015, 05:55:24 PM |
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HAVELOCK ROBBED ME MORE THAN 170BTC - BEWARE OF THIS THIEVES!
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thevictimofuktyranny
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March 26, 2015, 06:06:26 PM |
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Not anybody outside Havelock social group has, because there is actually no instructions or buttons to actually do the swaps at Havelock. |
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flame1012
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March 26, 2015, 06:21:37 PM |
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I'm not surprised that people are taking the deal, as most people are after instant gratification and will give up so easily.
This offer is literally blackmailing, I highly recommend against the swap.
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cesmak
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March 26, 2015, 07:08:57 PM |
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This is what i see, and i'm not logged in ....  |
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cesmak
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March 26, 2015, 07:11:33 PM |
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And if i log in in haveolock acocunt i have the xfr button on my "account overview" page to transfer amhash1 shares to make the swap....
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thevictimofuktyranny
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March 26, 2015, 07:38:04 PM |
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And if i log in in haveolock acocunt i have the xfr button on my "account overview" page to transfer amhash1 shares to make the swap....
Thanks, I've been looking for the button for 2 days now. I lost BTC when PBmining went down as well; just glad to get something back from this mess. I think, I'll stick to GPU mining in future or European Cloudmining companies, even if the yield/dividends are rubbish. |
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March 26, 2015, 09:11:44 PM |
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I dunno, accepting another deal that might not pay either is a bad idea. There is no guarantee here that you'll transfer your shares (And lose your rights to them) and then get paid. They are saying they will, but they might also just make another post about how some other dude ran off with that money and there is nothing left. Once bitten twice shy...
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l3sny
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March 26, 2015, 10:40:21 PM |
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I would accept the offer but decline waving rights to the remaining 70%. At the end of the day it is up to a judge to decide if forced acceptance is legally binding. And please no bullshit they are not liable...
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March 27, 2015, 11:53:50 AM |
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Any news on how to transfer direct AMhash into this scheme yet ? I have a few GH/s I rescued from hashie that are in AMHash now. I tried using the transfer form on amhash site to move shares to havelock and nothing has happened....
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flame1012
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March 27, 2015, 12:16:57 PM |
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Any news on how to transfer direct AMhash into this scheme yet ? I have a few GH/s I rescued from hashie that are in AMHash now. I tried using the transfer form on amhash site to move shares to havelock and nothing has happened....
Amhash probably transferred all shares to Havelock, you'll need to create an account on Havelock using the same email you've used on amhash.com |
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