Texas Hold'em and Omaha/Omaha8 Poker Room - NL, Limit, Potlimit games

[FreeMoney]

Was it phone or tablet?

phone.

[hippich]

I wonder what's about screensize. Was it's easy to play at all? Or you used some sort of zooming?

[FreeMoney]

I wonder what's about screensize. Was it's easy to play at all? Or you used some sort of zooming?

It seemed easy to me, but I might have just been excited that it worked at all. It was only heads up, so maybe the whole table didn't fit, but it didn't matter. This was over a month ago, I'll try again later today and give a better report.

[bober182]

This is a general question for all gambling sites using bitcoin.
Wont it be good to impose a limit to stop 18 year and under kids from playing.
At least a formal warning and anti addiction messages.

[hippich]

I do not care right now about all regulations and stuff like this. If kid was smart enough to find, buy/mint bitcoins - there is no moral right to limit his/her access to bitcoin poker room.

But later - proobably. If this thing will ever take off and bitcoins become second paypal - of course all these details will need to be fixed. But not right now.

[FreeMoney]

This is a general question for all gambling sites using bitcoin.
Wont it be good to impose a limit to stop 18 year and under kids from playing.
At least a formal warning and anti addiction messages.

Seriously? You think warnings stop people from doing what they want? Yes, people under 18 are people and choose to do what they want.

Did warnings stop you from watching porn?

Ageism is bigotry. It's been done to us, but we don't have to perpetuate the idea that there is some sub-human cutoff age if we don't want to.

Sorry to derail the thread, I won't discuss it here, but in another thread I'd love to rant for a while.

[nelisky]

This is a general question for all gambling sites using bitcoin.
Wont it be good to impose a limit to stop 18 year and under kids from playing.
At least a formal warning and anti addiction messages.

Seriously? You think warnings stop people from doing what they want? Yes, people under 18 are people and choose to do what they want.

Did warnings stop you from watching porn?

Ageism is bigotry. It's been done to us, but we don't have to perpetuate the idea that there is some sub-human cutoff age if we don't want to.

Sorry to derail the thread, I won't discuss it here, but in another thread I'd love to rant for a while.

Yes please! But I can't wait... cannot hold it any longer...

What do warnings do for the user? Absolutely nothing! "No, officer, I didn't see the NO STEALING sign, or I wouldn't have gone for the cash register".
What do warnings do anyway? They serve as 'insurance' for those who don't want to take responsibility, like parents. Yes, I caught my son watching porn and the damn site didn't have a 18 year + warning, or I'm sure he wouldn't have clicked on it... ?

It's very late, I might have failed to express my feelings on this, but any kind of censorship is bad, disguise it as you wish. And I know, terrorists, child porn, you name your excuse for controlling everything and everyone, but I just feel that the flip side of the current censorship and control situation is much worse than what they say they want to avoid And you fill in the 'they' placeholders with whatever form of government you have where you live, it's pretty much all the same everywhere.

There, I said it, now off to bed.

[Drifter]

You guys can call it "censorship" all you want but it doesn't take away from the fact that in the United States you can get in deep trouble for making a wager with a minor over the internet. Of course you'll argue "I had no idea he was only 15!", but the fact that you knowingly played poker at a site that did not even post an age restriction, well, "you should have known better" is what it will come down to.

You can take the risk if you want but I honestly see no point in doing so. Stand up for what you believe in, but this would hardly be the way to go about it. I can give my 5% rake to a poker table that I barely have to worry about technical issues, security, or legality. It has nothing to do with my stance on underage gambling, but all to do with my country's stance on this issue. If I object to that, I'll argue the law and try to change it, not disobey the law and explain myself later.

[hippich]

This makes perfect sense and will be done sometimes. But just not now. Right now the whole bitcoins world is in it's infancy.

[nelisky]

You guys can call it "censorship" all you want but it doesn't take away from the fact that in the United States you can get in deep trouble for making a wager with a minor over the internet. Of course you'll argue "I had no idea he was only 15!", but the fact that you knowingly played poker at a site that did not even post an age restriction, well, "you should have known better" is what it will come down to.

You can take the risk if you want but I honestly see no point in doing so. Stand up for what you believe in, but this would hardly be the way to go about it. I can give my 5% rake to a poker table that I barely have to worry about technical issues, security, or legality. It has nothing to do with my stance on underage gambling, but all to do with my country's stance on this issue. If I object to that, I'll argue the law and try to change it, not disobey the law and explain myself later.

It's the fact that it is law, and that people thing that's just what it is "in everyone's best interest" that puzzles me. I don't want to break the law, I don't have an issue with having the notice, it's the fact that people feel the notice is needed that shows the current state of afairs

[grondilu]

It's the fact that it is law, and that people thing that's just what it is "in everyone's best interest" that puzzles me. I don't want to break the law, I don't have an issue with having the notice, it's the fact that people feel the notice is needed that shows the current state of afairs

Sometimes I wonder why we should respect laws we don't agree with.

[hippich]

It's the fact that it is law, and that people thing that's just what it is "in everyone's best interest" that puzzles me. I don't want to break the law, I don't have an issue with having the notice, it's the fact that people feel the notice is needed that shows the current state of afairs

Sometimes I wonder why we should respect laws we don't agree with.

'cos law - is opinion of majority. and if you do not agree - you are minority. =) BTW, you can disrespect law, but you have to follow it to live with in society which use it without problems. =)

[nelisky]

It's the fact that it is law, and that people thing that's just what it is "in everyone's best interest" that puzzles me. I don't want to break the law, I don't have an issue with having the notice, it's the fact that people feel the notice is needed that shows the current state of afairs

Sometimes I wonder why we should respect laws we don't agree with.

'cos law - is opinion of majority. and if you do not agree - you are minority. =) BTW, you can disrespect law, but you have to follow it to live with in society which use it without problems. =)

Well, yeah, the way society is wired now... but you should be able to not follow law, assuming you don't break it, so here it should be unlawful to entice minors to gamble, but if they do, well, tough.
But we don't put responsability in people, which is why we have laws and courts. We just don't trust people's good will or common sense. Yeah, some are crooks, but why do we all live under the assumption we are crooks?

while we're on politics, why not touch religion? Do god fearing people really need a priest saying they should not steal? C'mon! isn't that just common sense? No, because if they do steal there's a punishment. So stealing is not something one shouldn't do, but rather something you pay for if you do... as most good things are.

[hippich]

Okey. This is going to completely different topic =))

It's not gambling yet. Bitcoin is virtual currency (for government sake). It's just another web for-fun poker game.

Once it will become too serious, I will consider doing all law related stuff. Including obtaining gambling license if I will have to.

But really, I doubt this will happen soon. Right now I want to focus on fellow bitcoiners and provide another way of having fun for their minted/traded bitcoins, rather then trying to build any serious business out of it. So most important stuff for me right now - bugs and features of poker room itself =)

[Drifter]

As far as I know, Bitcoins ability to be exchanged for real money makes a gaming license a requirement whether the bets are made with a recognized currency or not. Play money on a poker site is something entirely different, as it has no real value.

I'll stop derailing the thread though. The site has merit, just be careful.

[hippich]

Another question for people out there:

I plan to pay back some percentage of rake paid to top X performers. I thought about setting up public "Top X players" showing their rake profit. There is question - should I show real nicknames or use something like "Player 1", "Player 2" instead hidding who is really top performer. Any thoughts appreciated!

[FreeMoney]

Another question for people out there:

I plan to pay back some percentage of rake paid to top X performers. I thought about setting up public "Top X players" showing their rake profit. There is question - should I show real nicknames or use something like "Player 1", "Player 2" instead hidding who is really top performer. Any thoughts appreciated!

I think we'll have an idea of how much everyone plays anyway since it's a small pool for now. I guess that means show names. I suppose that's a little better transparency wise too, so that we all know that prizes are being paid to real people and not some phantom you invented 

[hippich]

Another question for people out there:

I plan to pay back some percentage of rake paid to top X performers. I thought about setting up public "Top X players" showing their rake profit. There is question - should I show real nicknames or use something like "Player 1", "Player 2" instead hidding who is really top performer. Any thoughts appreciated!

I think we'll have an idea of how much everyone plays anyway since it's a small pool for now. I guess that means show names. I suppose that's a little better transparency wise too, so that we all know that prizes are being paid to real people and not some phantom you invented 

I totally agree, but I am a bit concerned about someones trying to keep privacy. So i'd like to hear opinions before I will publish list of nicknames =)

[doublec]

I totally agree, but I am a bit concerned about someones trying to keep privacy. So i'd like to hear opinions before I will publish list of nicknames =)

I have no problem with nicknames being shown.

One small request. I notice that if I have an email associated with my account it shows my gravatar. Is it possible to have an option to disable this?

[hippich]

I totally agree, but I am a bit concerned about someones trying to keep privacy. So i'd like to hear opinions before I will publish list of nicknames =)

I have no problem with nicknames being shown.

One small request. I notice that if I have an email associated with my account it shows my gravatar. Is it possible to have an option to disable this?

Make sense. Will add to list of features requests =)