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January 26, 2016, 09:10:21 AM
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Look at Ether, pumped without any visible reason.
But the 'pump' is not followed by the usual dump. Thats not a contrived pump. Thats a rotation of funds from BTC, because of people speculating that ETH now has a better chance of real-world adoption than BTC, while BTC's blocksize/scalability/consensus problems continue.


It s still too early to say whether we re going to see a dump or not. I d bet 60% we re going to see Ether dump withing this week. I just do not see a basis for 300% growth withing 2 weeks time and I ve seen these pumps many times so far.

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January 26, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
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Look at Ether, pumped without any visible reason.
But the 'pump' is not followed by the usual dump. Thats not a contrived pump. Thats a rotation of funds from BTC, because of people speculating that ETH now has a better chance of real-world adoption than BTC, while BTC's blocksize/scalability/consensus problems continue.


It s still too early to say whether we re going to see a dump or not. I d bet 60% we re going to see Ether dump withing this week. I just do not see a basis for 300% growth withing 2 weeks time and I ve seen these pumps many times so far.

I think, that Ethereum is worthy took second place on coinmarketcap.com. Little chance that it will fall below.
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January 26, 2016, 12:39:17 PM
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One of our directors is overjoyed right now!  Grin


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January 26, 2016, 03:09:28 PM
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The Bitcoin Co-op,
can you do better graphics with basic exchange Yuanbaohui.com where trading FCT, since almost the entire volume 86,5% went to China.
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January 26, 2016, 04:17:34 PM
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can you do better graphics with basic exchange Yuanbaohui.com where trading FCT, since almost the entire volume 86,5% went to China.
Poloniex is more suited to chart-making. Also, we're Canadian. The new upward price channel exists on Yuanbaohui, too, though--I checked CoinMarketCap.

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January 26, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2016, 06:16:07 PM by MaGNeT
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Look at Ether, pumped without any visible reason.
But the 'pump' is not followed by the usual dump. Thats not a contrived pump. Thats a rotation of funds from BTC, because of people speculating that ETH now has a better chance of real-world adoption than BTC, while BTC's blocksize/scalability/consensus problems continue.


It s still too early to say whether we re going to see a dump or not. I d bet 60% we re going to see Ether dump withing this week. I just do not see a basis for 300% growth withing 2 weeks time and I ve seen these pumps many times so far.

For an ordinary "pump and dump" clone altcoin I would say "yes, you're right!"

But Ethereum is nothing like that, it's potential is huge and I think we just ain't seen nothing yet.

Ethereum for dummies is a nice video that shows what it's potential is, though we could use a shorter version of the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_LK0t_qaPo

Same for Factom, today's price is not even relevant for what it will be when they achieve their goals.

2016/2017 will be a great year for Bitcoin 2.0 projects.
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January 26, 2016, 06:53:11 PM
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Look at Ether, pumped without any visible reason.
But the 'pump' is not followed by the usual dump. Thats not a contrived pump. Thats a rotation of funds from BTC, because of people speculating that ETH now has a better chance of real-world adoption than BTC, while BTC's blocksize/scalability/consensus problems continue.


ETH is being pumped by a few..
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January 26, 2016, 06:58:48 PM
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Factom in TOP 50 Built In Austin startups to watch in 2016
"Factom helps enterprises migrate applications to the blockchain with custom tools and services built on the company’s proprietary, open source software..."
http://www.builtinaustin.com/2016/01/25/50-austin-startups-watch-2016

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January 27, 2016, 04:35:53 AM
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Factom in TOP 50 Built In Austin startups to watch in 2016
"Factom helps enterprises migrate applications to the blockchain with custom tools and services built on the company’s proprietary, open source software..."
http://www.builtinaustin.com/2016/01/25/50-austin-startups-watch-2016

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What is "proprietary, open source software"?

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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January 27, 2016, 11:48:34 AM
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Factom in TOP 50 Built In Austin startups to watch in 2016
"Factom helps enterprises migrate applications to the blockchain with custom tools and services built on the company’s proprietary, open source software..."
http://www.builtinaustin.com/2016/01/25/50-austin-startups-watch-2016

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One of those new Oxyblockon's!  Tongue
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January 28, 2016, 03:35:10 AM
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The Chinese Exchange Yuanbaohui is almost entirely taken away trade FCT

Data at this time (the volume for 24 hours):
Yuanbaohui 91.04 %  = $ 1,607,930
Poloniex 8.86 % = $ 156,578
Bittrex 0.10 % = $ 1,766
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January 28, 2016, 04:07:48 AM
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If I understand correctly, the Factom (FCT) will be added to Trezor.
https://github.com/FactomProject/go-bip39
https://www.bitcointrezor.com/
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January 28, 2016, 05:39:49 AM
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If I understand correctly, the Factom (FCT) will be added to Trezor.
https://github.com/FactomProject/go-bip39
https://www.bitcointrezor.com/


no.  google decided to finally retire some of their go crypto repositories, and we needed to compensate so that it would continue to compile.  although bip39 was developed by the same people behind the slush pool and trezor, there is no connection.
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January 28, 2016, 07:13:12 AM
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A few questions as I work to wrap my head around Factom and determine if I want to invest or not:

1.  Why will 73,000 FCT be created each month?  Why not 75,000 or 50,000?  It seems to me that initially, there will be substantial inflation once the Federated servers go live and at some point, potentially substantial deflation.  Why not just create as many FCT each month as are used to purchase Entry Credits to keep the number of FCT static?

2.  As I understand it, Entry Credit holders will be able to vote for the Federated Servers.  What is to stop me from purchasing a ton of Entry Credits not to use for Entries, but to use to vote my servers and the servers of my friends to Federated status.  What's to stop me from, "Selling" my votes?  Why not have a Darkcoin masternode system where anyone can run a Federated Server who puts up the necessary collateral and they are paid in turn.  More decentralized and less prone to vote stuffing.

3.  As I understand it, X Factoid were sold at the public offering, and Y Factoid are held by Factom Inc or its employees.  Is this correct, and if so, does Factom Inc. hold those tokens or employees?  And what rules are in place for those tokens?  For example, is there a lockup period where they can't be sold and if so, what is the expiration date?  Or are they actively being sold by employees for profit or the company to raise additional funds?

Thank you for your insight as I conduct my due diligence.



1. As described in the initial token sale documentation, to pay for the server+engineering time, new factoids would be created at a rate of 20%/year of the token sale amount.  4379795.611338 factoids were sold, which corresponds to 875959.1222676 per year or 72996.5935223 per month.

The federated servers goal is to make each unit they are granted become more valuable.  The best way they have of doing this is to increase the amount of value people are sacrificing to place data into the blockchain.  The more people are using the system, the more demand there is for the tokens, and the higher the market price.  If we were trying to make factoids be money, only paying transaction fees would keep the supply stable.

In contrast to many other projects, Factoids are not trying to be money.  We already have internet money, and that is bitcoin.  Factoids are a tool to pay the servers in a scalable decentralized way, coupled with a way to provably show that value was destroyed.  

The closed loop feedback nature of the system means in the long term (absent speculation), the dollar amount of the factoid inflation will match the dollar amount of entry credits being purchased.  Speculation thrown into this will drive the dollar price up or down from this equilibrium.  Now when we have this mismatch between the source (inflation) and the sink (entry credit purchases) then the increased or decreased supply will tend to correct the price towards equilibrium.  

Contrast this with your transaction fee model, where speculation would be the whole point of the token.  At that point factoids would be competing to be money, which goes against what we are trying to do.

2. most systems can be attacked by throwing money at them.  The best we can do is to make it so that an attacker needs to expend more value than the rest of the network combined.  

Optimally we would use thermodynamic proof of work, but as history has shown, unless you are Bitcoin, using proof of work is more of a liability than a benefit.

The darkcoin masternodes seem like proof-of-stake.  Daniel Larimer has some interesting recent thoughts on proof of stake.

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I have long been of the opinion that proof-of-stake is superior to proof-of-work. Today I would like to challenge my own beliefs against the lessons I have learned from over a year of experience with proof-of-stake.

http://bytemaster.github.io/article/2016/01/04/The-Benefits-of-Proof-of-Work/

We think that the people who have the most interest in the success of the system are the ones who are actively using the system.  The ones purchasing entry credits are the ones using the system.

On that note, we are setting up a delegation system, so you can direct your Entry Credit support to your favorite blogger, who presumably actually pays attention to what is going on.   They would then vote on your behalf.

3. 40% of the token sale amount was granted to early purchasers.  60% of the token sale amount was granted to early contributors.



http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/05/16/factom-raises-2278-btc-in-software-token-crowdsale/
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January 28, 2016, 07:49:28 AM
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Need to join on the Yuanbaohui chinese exchange and the need to verify the account normal working Chinese number for SMS, searching in Google, but unfortunately could not find a workable number, who knows the service in which you can buy or get free Chinese number for SMS?
Thanks for the help Smiley
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January 28, 2016, 02:35:41 PM
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Deloitte: New Blockchain Applications Will Accelerate Adoption
http://www.coindesk.com/deloitte-report-blockchain-use-cases-adoption/

All these applications can be built on the basis of Factom Project.
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January 29, 2016, 07:54:35 AM
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Speakers announced for Blockchain and Bitcoin Africa Conference 2016

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The speakers announced so far include:

Alakanani Itireleng, CEO of SatoshiCentre Pty Ltd.
Jared Tate, founder and creator of Digibyte.
Jonathan Levin, co-founder of Chainalysis.
Marcus Swanepoel, co-founder and CEO of BitX.
Tiana Laurence, CMO of Factom.
Verengai Mabika, lead business developer at BitFinance.

https://coinreport.net/speakers-announced-blockchain-bitcoin-africa-conference-2016/
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January 29, 2016, 08:55:44 AM
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Just be patient and get as many FCT as possible in the meantime. This token s got a nice team and a great idea behind it, I expect the price to go up at least 4x it s now by the end of the year.

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January 29, 2016, 05:59:04 PM
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The Block Chain Conference to include key presentations concerning development, deployment of blockchain-based approaches by global businesses

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Honesty is Subversive – How to Build Transparent and Accountable Business Systems with Block Chain Technology - Factom has tools to leverage the security of the blockchain, without the scalability limitations of bitcoin. See the three latest tools that could change data as we know it. Take away knowledge to influence your industry and learn what is in store for blockchain in 2016. It will be presented by Tiana Laurence, CMO of Factom.
http://www.bitcoinisle.com/2016/01/28/the-block-chain-conference-to-include-key-presentations-concerning-development-deployment-of-blockchain-based-approaches-by-global-businesses/
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January 31, 2016, 10:15:30 AM
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Ups, a nice price dump. It seems Chinese New Year and exchange of crypto into Yuans has had a lot of infuence on Factom. Let s hope this is temporary.

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