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[mtomcdev]

Let me put it to you in bold so you GET IT: As far as peer to peer transmission is concerned, there's NO DIFFERENCE, between live video streaming and video on demand. Get that or should I repeat it?
The original video, be it live or previously recorded, still has to be encoded just the same and, if made available -again: IN BOTH INSTANCES-, to different platforms, encoded in several resolutions.

It was explained many times in the last few weeks that in step one, in order to serve Flash clients and to start the service soon as it is possible, the jizzmo and streemo sites would have to use a hybrid model utilizing RTMP nodes. Streaming live is quite different than streaming video on-demand using RTMP servers.

Dev, I wish you luck.

Thank you! We also wish you find the coin, community and developers which meet your expectations!

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[loveyouforever]

When will this coin list on exchange, is there a roadmap?

[barabbas]

Let me put it to you in bold so you GET IT: As far as peer to peer transmission is concerned, there's NO DIFFERENCE, between live video streaming and video on demand. Get that or should I repeat it?
The original video, be it live or previously recorded, still has to be encoded just the same and, if made available -again: IN BOTH INSTANCES-, to different platforms, encoded in several resolutions.

It was explained many times in the last few weeks that in step one, in order to serve Flash clients and to start the service soon as it is possible, the jizzmo and streemo sites would have to use a hybrid model utilizing RTMP nodes. Streaming live is quite different than streaming video on-demand using RTMP servers.

Dev, I wish you luck.

Thank you! We also wish you find the coin, community and developers which meet your expectations!

OK, since you insist, I will have to repeat the bolded statement: Be it streaming live or streaming recorded (VOD), for the purpose of transmission over the peer to peer network, it is EXACTLY the same thing: Both instances require the video to be encoded for such purpose. The delivery also has the same exact requirements... and pitfalls for both will depend of the strength of stability of the network AND, also, the quality of the peer serving the encoded stream. For instance, if the stream is held, at any given moment, by a device -mobile or otherwise-, whose definition is low, no matter who is receiving that stream or which quality it was delivered previously, that individual would receive the video in the max quality that device provides. Furthermore, if the peer who is serving the stream, disconnects, for whatever reason, voluntary or otherwise, the network will look for another peer to continue the stream... with the consequent interruption of the stream.  Not that any of the retards blinded by greed here would even pay any attention to these small details, but for you to finally address the difficulties inherent to the peer to peer video stream model and let the truth come out, that is what, in plain English, is the main -but not the only, y any stretch of imagination- problem in the implementation of the free, peer-to-peer model of video, or live video, streaming. Anyone who has ever downloaded anything on BitTorrent has already experienced exactly those pitfalls as they were at the same time downloading and uploading the data (and video, whether live or recorded, is encoded to be data files), hence why some popular downloads were quite fast while some rarer ones would takes weeks, months or never actually complete.

I believe after this the average "armchair commentator" will have a much better idea of what are the more than potential shortcomings of some of the stuff you are planning on achieving. Once again, good luck with it.

[mtomcdev]

Be it streaming live or streaming recorded (VOD), for the purpose of transmission over the peer to peer network, it is EXACTLY the same thing

In our blog on the 26th of June we wrote and has nothing changed with regards to this:
"For the standard anonymous chat room coupled with video broadcasting we still use our open source RTMP nodes (which triggers zero licensing cost) to serve conventional clients such as Flash viewers. This will operate alongside the peer to peer system. We call this hybrid broadcasting model."

We have reiterated many times in this thread, last time just above two posts I tried to explain to you that in the cases of jizzmo and streemo there can't be a true peer to peer streaming - for many reasons such as comply with regulations and filter out child pornography (just to mention two reasons) it must be hybrid streaming that utilizes RTMP nodes. By referring to the challenges of P2P live streaming you're talking about a completely different technology what is the technology of streemo and jizzmo. The streemo and jizzmo platforms that collect network fee from broadcasters and industrial end-users won't be a true peer to peer network terms of video live streaming. The streemo and jizzmo platforms will use many elements of the peer to peer technology and decentralized digital currency concept, for instance we use blockchain for financial transaction ledger, decentralized smart contracts for device management, but terms of video live streaming, as we explained here and in our blog, the jizzmo and streemo sites will still use conventional streaming technologies. Not peer to peer - RTMP hybrid nodes. I don't know how else we can explain this to you, we were trying very hard, but I am not going to try to explain it any more.

You continue insulting our supporters, now you are again calling our supporters who pointed out this to you many times in this thread and of course (since we don't agree with your concerns) you call the developers "retards blinded by greed here would even pay any attention to these small details".

It's not my role to tell others what to write, but I hope the community will not return your insults, we can keep this unmoderated thread civilized, but as for me, this was definitely my last post to you.

[chocobo]

Let me put it to you in bold so you GET IT: As far as peer to peer transmission is concerned, there's NO DIFFERENCE, between live video streaming and video on demand. Get that or should I repeat it?
The original video, be it live or previously recorded, still has to be encoded just the same and, if made available -again: IN BOTH INSTANCES-, to different platforms, encoded in several resolutions.

It was explained many times in the last few weeks that in step one, in order to serve Flash clients and to start the service soon as it is possible, the jizzmo and streemo sites would have to use a hybrid model utilizing RTMP nodes. Streaming live is quite different than streaming video on-demand using RTMP servers.

Dev, I wish you luck.

Thank you! We also wish you find the coin, community and developers which meet your expectations!

OK, since you insist, I will have to repeat the bolded statement: Be it streaming live or streaming recorded (VOD), for the purpose of transmission over the peer to peer network, it is EXACTLY the same thing: Both instances require the video to be encoded for such purpose. The delivery also has the same exact requirements... and pitfalls for both will depend of the strength of stability of the network AND, also, the quality of the peer serving the encoded stream. For instance, if the stream is held, at any given moment, by a device -mobile or otherwise-, whose definition is low, no matter who is receiving that stream or which quality it was delivered previously, that individual would receive the video in the max quality that device provides. Furthermore, if the peer who is serving the stream, disconnects, for whatever reason, voluntary or otherwise, the network will look for another peer to continue the stream... with the consequent interruption of the stream.  Not that any of the retards blinded by greed here would even pay any attention to these small details, but for you to finally address the difficulties inherent to the peer to peer video stream model and let the truth come out, that is what, in plain English, is the main -but not the only, y any stretch of imagination- problem in the implementation of the free, peer-to-peer model of video, or live video, streaming. Anyone who has ever downloaded anything on BitTorrent has already experienced exactly those pitfalls as they were at the same time downloading and uploading the data (and video, whether live or recorded, is encoded to be data files), hence why some popular downloads were quite fast while some rarer ones would takes weeks, months or never actually complete.

I believe after this the average "armchair commentator" will have a much better idea of what are the more than potential shortcomings of some of the stuff you are planning on achieving. Once again, good luck with it.

Listen man, I get it, you doubt the effectiveness and even the plausibility of this project. That is fine. 100% fine. At the same time people don't line up and ask barrabas the great arbiter of blockchain, server, and p2p networks if their idea is possible. That's because you don't have the experience or knowledge to make the claims you are making. If you did you would be flaunting it. You are the armchair commentator. Anyone that disagrees with you is retarded and full of greed.

I believe that they are on to something, and chose to invest. Do you have a problem with investments and risks? You do realize that a large majority of tech startups fail right? That doesn't mean they were scams, in fact failure leads to discovery. You think this will fail. I don't. Just because you think that doesn't mean its a scam. Come back when it fails and rub it in our faces. For now either make a well researched point without calling someone a retard, or give us a slight break from your toxic behavior.

[albert_mt]

Let me put it to you in bold so you GET IT: As far as peer to peer transmission is concerned, there's NO DIFFERENCE, between live video streaming and video on demand. Get that or should I repeat it?
The original video, be it live or previously recorded, still has to be encoded just the same and, if made available -again: IN BOTH INSTANCES-, to different platforms, encoded in several resolutions.

It was explained many times in the last few weeks that in step one, in order to serve Flash clients and to start the service soon as it is possible, the jizzmo and streemo sites would have to use a hybrid model utilizing RTMP nodes. Streaming live is quite different than streaming video on-demand using RTMP servers.

Dev, I wish you luck.

Thank you! We also wish you find the coin, community and developers which meet your expectations!

OK, since you insist, I will have to repeat the bolded statement: Be it streaming live or streaming recorded (VOD), for the purpose of transmission over the peer to peer network, it is EXACTLY the same thing: Both instances require the video to be encoded for such purpose. The delivery also has the same exact requirements... and pitfalls for both will depend of the strength of stability of the network AND, also, the quality of the peer serving the encoded stream. For instance, if the stream is held, at any given moment, by a device -mobile or otherwise-, whose definition is low, no matter who is receiving that stream or which quality it was delivered previously, that individual would receive the video in the max quality that device provides. Furthermore, if the peer who is serving the stream, disconnects, for whatever reason, voluntary or otherwise, the network will look for another peer to continue the stream... with the consequent interruption of the stream.  Not that any of the retards blinded by greed here would even pay any attention to these small details, but for you to finally address the difficulties inherent to the peer to peer video stream model and let the truth come out, that is what, in plain English, is the main -but not the only, y any stretch of imagination- problem in the implementation of the free, peer-to-peer model of video, or live video, streaming. Anyone who has ever downloaded anything on BitTorrent has already experienced exactly those pitfalls as they were at the same time downloading and uploading the data (and video, whether live or recorded, is encoded to be data files), hence why some popular downloads were quite fast while some rarer ones would takes weeks, months or never actually complete.

I believe after this the average "armchair commentator" will have a much better idea of what are the more than potential shortcomings of some of the stuff you are planning on achieving. Once again, good luck with it.

Listen man, I get it, you doubt the effectiveness and even the plausibility of this project. That is fine. 100% fine. At the same time people don't line up and ask barrabas the great arbiter of blockchain, server, and p2p networks if their idea is possible. That's because you don't have the experience or knowledge to make the claims you are making. If you did you would be flaunting it. You are the armchair commentator. Anyone that disagrees with you is retarded and full of greed.

I believe that they are on to something, and chose to invest. Do you have a problem with investments and risks? You do realize that a large majority of tech startups fail right? That doesn't mean they were scams, in fact failure leads to discovery. You think this will fail. I don't. Just because you think that doesn't mean its a scam. Come back when it fails and rub it in our faces. For now either make a well researched point without calling someone a retard, or give us a slight break from your toxic behavior.

that's a very well said reply and I shouldn't add to it anything

except

you didn't take into account that he is a visionary. he thinks he is member of the billionaires club, as he said he think that he is the best buddy is Jamie Dimon the chairman of JPMorgan Chase and without doubt confidante of many other billionaires, so apparently he can see many things that you don't.
I am familiar with such condition as my uncle think he is the crown prince of Denmark. it's quite fascinating how creative people are who suffer from that condition, they can come up with all kind of shit, as we can see above from this well connected fellow.

[mtomcdev]

When will this coin list on exchange, is there a roadmap?

The plan is to release the open source wallet next week and then apply for exchange listing.

[barabbas]

Let me put it to you in bold so you GET IT: As far as peer to peer transmission is concerned, there's NO DIFFERENCE, between live video streaming and video on demand. Get that or should I repeat it?
The original video, be it live or previously recorded, still has to be encoded just the same and, if made available -again: IN BOTH INSTANCES-, to different platforms, encoded in several resolutions.

It was explained many times in the last few weeks that in step one, in order to serve Flash clients and to start the service soon as it is possible, the jizzmo and streemo sites would have to use a hybrid model utilizing RTMP nodes. Streaming live is quite different than streaming video on-demand using RTMP servers.

Dev, I wish you luck.

Thank you! We also wish you find the coin, community and developers which meet your expectations!

OK, since you insist, I will have to repeat the bolded statement: Be it streaming live or streaming recorded (VOD), for the purpose of transmission over the peer to peer network, it is EXACTLY the same thing: Both instances require the video to be encoded for such purpose. The delivery also has the same exact requirements... and pitfalls for both will depend of the strength of stability of the network AND, also, the quality of the peer serving the encoded stream. For instance, if the stream is held, at any given moment, by a device -mobile or otherwise-, whose definition is low, no matter who is receiving that stream or which quality it was delivered previously, that individual would receive the video in the max quality that device provides. Furthermore, if the peer who is serving the stream, disconnects, for whatever reason, voluntary or otherwise, the network will look for another peer to continue the stream... with the consequent interruption of the stream.  Not that any of the retards blinded by greed here would even pay any attention to these small details, but for you to finally address the difficulties inherent to the peer to peer video stream model and let the truth come out, that is what, in plain English, is the main -but not the only, y any stretch of imagination- problem in the implementation of the free, peer-to-peer model of video, or live video, streaming. Anyone who has ever downloaded anything on BitTorrent has already experienced exactly those pitfalls as they were at the same time downloading and uploading the data (and video, whether live or recorded, is encoded to be data files), hence why some popular downloads were quite fast while some rarer ones would takes weeks, months or never actually complete.

I believe after this the average "armchair commentator" will have a much better idea of what are the more than potential shortcomings of some of the stuff you are planning on achieving. Once again, good luck with it.

Listen man, I get it, you doubt the effectiveness and even the plausibility of this project. That is fine. 100% fine. At the same time people don't line up and ask barrabas the great arbiter of blockchain, server, and p2p networks if their idea is possible. That's because you don't have the experience or knowledge to make the claims you are making. If you did you would be flaunting it. You are the armchair commentator. Anyone that disagrees with you is retarded and full of greed.

I believe that they are on to something, and chose to invest. Do you have a problem with investments and risks? You do realize that a large majority of tech startups fail right? That doesn't mean they were scams, in fact failure leads to discovery. You think this will fail. I don't. Just because you think that doesn't mean its a scam. Come back when it fails and rub it in our faces. For now either make a well researched point without calling someone a retard, or give us a slight break from your toxic behavior.

I agree completely with the content of your post, except when you introduce the word "scam" which I have not used, not once, regarding this project.  And then, partially, when you speak of "well researched" post. But I won't go into details. And, more significantly, when you make reference to my calling someone "retard"... please just read the post of the individual who posted below you and no explanation is needed: If that is not a full retarded individual, no one is. Period. Therefore, dev, it isn't an insult, it's an statement of facts. And I haven't insulted you at all, not once. My reference to "blinded greedy bastards" applies to a number of posters here -three, to be specific-, not necessarily you. The term "blinded greedy bastards" is a crypto variation of what, under less heated circumstances, would be called "ruthless investors". Greed, in itself, "for lack of a better word" is in my opinion -and GG's- good, otherwise. It is rather peculiar that even in view of the gross display of idiocy of that individual, not one of you, not even one, has bothered to let him know how big of a ridicule he was making of himself exposing his lack of understanding not just of the phrase "tongue (firmly) in check", but of the most elemental perception of sarcasm. Nope sir, you were all too worried thinking on how better dismiss any sense of critical thinking, any perception  whatsoever that you might be wrong and you may lose your money on this. No way, no how. Better silence in the face of blatant, gross stupidity because, after all, we don't necessarily believe in this stuff, we just need it to be perpetuated long enough to make money off of it at whoever's expense, right? Who cares about rationality, research, statistics even or, on the other hand, intolerable levels of idiocy, IF THEY DONT SERVE/SERVE OUR AGENDAS, right?

Finally, since your statistics are quite correct, any normal person would reasonably be skeptical, just based on numbers, right? And yet, the full retards (PLURAL) here go on rampages of personal insults and blatant lies and mischaracterizations, when obvious, educated and quite reasonable potential bumps are pointed. Even though the dev himself has not engaged in such behavior. Hey, I understand, it's crypto. Retardland of blinded, greedy bastards. But don't expect no retaliation whether you choose to call it toxic behavior or whatever else.

Again, dev, you keep going around and around, but without admitting a very simple, direct, statement of facts: Live video, just like recorded video, for the purpose of distribution and delivery, is exactly the same thing. Finally you admitted to costs and conventional -necessary use-, not just for the legal reasons that I pointed out to you many weeks ago, but because you cannot leave paying customers to the problems in transmission that I pointed out in my previous post. So, exactly how are you going to transmit, for such little costs as you have promised, successful streaming to, say thousands of streamers? If you use RTMP in the hybrid, then we are dealing with an entirely different set of problems, let me quote here some basics by a very knowledgeable expert: "RTMP is quite badly documented protocol and extremely badly implemented.
During my tests I have seen issues like crash of libraries (including the Adobe's original one) if the upper layer commands has been sent in unexpected order (although this is allowed by the RTMP protocol and the order of the upper layer commands is not documented at all). Also I have seen (within Adobe's rtmp library) incorrect implementation of the setPeerBandwidth command." So we are entering in yet another realm of difficulties which would make anyone with even a scentila of common sense, quite skeptical. But, like I said before, I don't want to continue the "discussion", I just wish you luck, you are going to need it.

[altcoinUK]

Put aside the concerns of others regarding to a mental condition that lead an individual to vaunt and take pride publicly in his connection to billionaire investors, lets ignore the fact that barabbas is indeed a Paycoin and IconExpert shill and a hypocrite scammer who indeed was after newbies' money in the Paycoin and IconicExpert threads, but here he present himself as the protector of newbies' money. Lets not worry about that this armchair software expert never compiled a line of code, he knows nothing about software engineering, but he spit his toxics and insults when some of us dare to talk about software engineering. Lets forget that he has been trolling this thread and ignores any answers from the supporters never mind the developers who are according to barabbas just idiot, blind, greedy, inexperienced North European kids who don't even consider the software must be tested.

Lets forget all those aforementioned toxic from barabbas, and despite not being a native English speaker let me try to summarize that in my opinion what is this project/coin and where we are with it.

1) The core project is an Internet of Things blockchain technology and an IoT micropayment system. Whether the P2P video live streaming works or not, according to the white paper and the developers the main objective of the project is to roll out a generic, decentralized, blockchain based IoT solution. In my opinion a robust IoT solution could be gain interest from large players, now wonder IBM in this field. As for me, it is quite exciting to support such technology initiative and let the toxic troll to route against it.

2) To promote the project, to get it to the public, to prove the technology works and last but from my viewpoint not least to make money, the developers came up - in my opinion - with a fantastic idea, which is to utilize the GadgetNet technology in real world use cases. These are the jizzmo and steemo platforms. These are the centralized showcase of the technology where broadcasters and end-users such as CCTV operators will have to pay a network fee for live streaming video. The blockchain based smart contract system - which apparently works as we used it to buy VICR contrats - will facilitate this network fee payment between the broadcasters, end-users and GDC owners. The broadcasters will have to pay minimum of US$ 5.00 for a GDC. Again, I believe a fantastic idea, a simple but sound and rational economic model.

3) To comply with laws and regulations, the jizzmo and streemo can't be true P2P, and therefore the developers introduce the hybrid streaming concept that combines the P2P and decentralized elements of the system such as blockchain and an application based on the well tested and widely used RTMP protocol instead of WebRTC. The devs have been trying to explain this to the troll for weeks. Since the streaming nodes implement a well known and widely used protocol (RTMP), the concerns of the troll regarding that that the whole application can't work not even in theory ... well is just trolling.  

4) The developers also work on a true P2P live streaming application mainly for one to one secure video chat that use the concepts of the widely used torrent network and the well documented WebRTC protocol.

5) The developers said from the beginning that this is not an exchange coin. This is an internal token and the coin won't be on exchanges. We, the VICR owners (according to the troll we are the retard, greedy, blind, etc people) started to challenge this view and requested to list the coin on the exchanges. The developers apparently work on it and the coin will be on the exchanges soon.

6) The developers have been started to collaborate with W3C which again in my opinion a fucking fantastic recognition of the developer team by the most influential professional body of the planet, there are already pull requests and merges and according to the developers the GadgetNet system will be fully based on the standards of W3C.

All together, I think it is a really exciting project and I am happy to be part of it as a VICR investor. There are more and more people support this project across the world, from China through Russia to United States. And most importantly, the supporters are routing here for something and not against something. That's why this will work. Will it be an overnight success? No, but one by one models, broadcasters, CCTV operators will come and we VICR owners will make lots of money. That's how it gonna be, because we support a good cause in contrast with the toxic troll that always against something (except Paycoin and IconicExpert).

Personally, I will be very happy if the developers invite me to the DAC. It's up to them, they don't have to, but if VICR owners we can be part of the DAC, then in my opinion VICR owners can even make more money. This project and technology is a perfect target for a Venture Capitalist investment. Of course most of the technology projects fails, even most of the VC backed technology projects fail. However, during the process technologies born and people make money - precisely what we are going to do here, whether this Paycoin shill likes it or not.

DEVs, please let me know if I can help in any way, it's very nice to be part of something, to work for something and not against something, and I am happy to help with money or whatever I can.

[barabbas]

OK, lets leave aside that incredibly stupid perception serving your agenda. And lets leave aside the fact that you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC (you don't want me to post here your own admission, do you? along with your extended offer). And you know very well indeed, that I never supported (but traded in) Paycoin, so lets leave it at that. And you know -although you seem now too stupid to understand- very well that hated as he is, egocentric beyond belief that he  (Iconic Expert) is, he is not a scammer and that his project, after the initial difficulties and irregularities -at which time I jumped off and was refunded in my investment- has proven not only innovative and different but somewhat successful considering that the level of hatred towards his persona has so far prevented it from being included in major exchanges despite the fact that it has been consistently on the first positions in volume on Bittrex for months now.

 Lets leave those and quite a few other things left and lets talk about the RTMP protocol in which you now, all of a sudden, are an "expert". How many references from real professionals, do you need to admit that it is a very complicated protocol that has to be tweaked constantly depending with what software it interacts to work somewhat regularly, never flawlessly. How many? 10? 100? because the net is full of such documentation, statements and blogs from people whose qualifications are beyond any possible doubt...

So just let leave all that stuff aside and continue your very well paid (my congratulations on that, by the way) shilling of GDC... which may eventually end up working on some level -and because of that I took some time to consider your offer, before declining it-. If it does, it sure is going to need a much more balance shilling and support than the one you can provide.

But lets leave all of that aside, ok? Or not. Your call.

Contrary to you, I never, ever, lie. Ever.

[altcoinUK]

If you use RTMP in the hybrid, then we are dealing with an entirely different set of problem

Bingo.

People are questioning in this thread whether you are an idiot or a troll. After 6 very long weeks, after the developers 6 weeks long explanation you finally realized that indeed RTMP is different and indeed "we are dealing with an entirely different set of problem". Well done, finally you understand.

Now, don't bother with that problem. Majority of video streaming is based on RTMP using servers like Wowza, EVO, Flash Media Server, etc. Twitch.tc, LiveJasmin, MyFreeCams virtually everyone broadcasts live via RTMP servers (they have to since the client is Flash). Just like Netflix use it for VOD. So probably better for everyone don't demonstrate how stupid you are, because knowing you, the next will be that you try to prove (which you actually started already) that RTMP, the dominant live streaming protocol is not viable solution for live video streaming.

[altcoinUK]

you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC

No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed  for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread.

As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me.

You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc.

[barabbas]

If you use RTMP in the hybrid, then we are dealing with an entirely different set of problem

Bingo.

People are questioning in this thread whether you are an idiot or a troll. After 6 very long weeks, after the developers 6 weeks long explanation you finally realized that indeed RTMP is different and indeed "we are dealing with an entirely different set of problem". Well done, finally you understand.

Now, don't bother with that problem. Majority of video streaming is based on RTMP using servers like Wowza, EVO, Flash Media Server, etc. Twitch.tc, LiveJasmin, MyFreeCams virtually everyone broadcasts via live via RTMP servers (they have to since the client is Flash). Just like Netflix use it for VOD. So probably better for everyone don't demonstrate how stupid you are, because knowing you, the next will be that you try to prove (which you actually started already) that RTMP, the dominant live streaming protocol is not viable solution for live video streaming.

Oh no, it is quite viable, you "smart" one... It only requires a level of maintenance and support that this project is never going to be capable of providing, that simple. For it to work on an acceptable level. So don't chant "bingo" all that quick, alright?

Even if you are so handsomely paid to do so. I tried pal, but you insisted. The cat's out of the hat now...

[barabbas]

you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC

No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed  for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread.

As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me.

You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc.

As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call.

[chocobo]

you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC

No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed  for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread.

As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me.

You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc.

As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call.

OMG I spit coffee everywhere while failing out of a chair that is pure gold. I see your problem now, acting was never your calling, it was always comedy! Now, please, post your truth (remember truth requires proof) and go ceaselessly bump something else.

[threedaymonk]

you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC

No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed  for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread.

As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me.

You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc.

As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call.

You lied when you said that this project will no longer be graced by your presence yesterday.

[mtomcdev]

you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC

No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed  for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread.

As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me.

You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc.

As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call.

I am not sure why you hate this coin so much, and I don't know what is your business with altcoinUK, but you are clearly accusing us that we pay for altcoinUK to shill this project.

What I can say is that we do not pay anything altcoinUK. Also, we have never paid altcoinUK any money.

altcoinUK has exactly same VICR contract as others have. We said to him in private that there can't be any preferential arrangement, everybody must be equal and the payments must be transparent via smart contract and registered in the blockchain. Therefore, we never ever commissioned any payments to altcoinUK.

I can confirm that we deposited 500 ores for a community member to promote the coin in China and 500 ores to an other community member to set up streaming nodes. We also pay for marketing to a team well known in Bitcointalk, but as far as I know altcoinUK is not part of that, but I will ask the team leader of that team to verify that. That's all payments we made people related to the Bitcointalk forum.

I hope it helps.

[albert_mt]

I took some time to consider your offer, before declining it

Jose, the Californian jobless actor with broken finance and severely broken mind declined an offer.

btw, I thought altcoinUK is more reasonable than doing business with this stupid fuck barabbas Jose batman Paycoin shill.

[chocobo]

you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC

No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed  for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread.

As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me.

You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc.

As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call.

It is the final act......... Shakespeare himself never thought that a actor so many years in the future and so late in life would take his work to such a level. It as almost as if this quote:

 "What a piece of work is a man! how noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form and moving how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god!"

was written about barrabas himself! It sure is strange how the greats predict the future isn't it?

I digress. We have a play to return to.


In walks BARABBAS: (this really is a photo of barabbas from when he was doxxed)




BARABBAS:  O villany! Ho! let the door be lock'd:   
    Treachery! Seek it out.   

LAERTES:    It is here, Barabbas: Barabbas, thou art slain;   
    No medicine in the world can do thee good;   
    In thee there is not half an hour of life;   
    The treacherous instrument is in thy hand,   
    Unbated and envenom'd: the foul practise   
    Hath turn'd itself on me lo, here I lie,   
    Never to rise again: thy mother's poison'd:   
    I can no more: the king, the king's to blame.

BARABBAS:    The point!--envenom'd too!   
    Then, venom, to thy work.   
    Stabs ALTCOINUK.   


All:    Treason! treason!   

ALTCOINUK:    O, yet defend me, friends; I am but hurt.   

BARABBAS:    Here, thou incestuous, murderous, damned Dane,
    Drink off this potion. Is thy union here?   
    Follow my mother.   
    ALTCOINUK dies.

[Netzer]

  chocobo

he Stabs and altcoinUK but hurt.