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I hate to admit it but this has gone badly, I was one of the few lucky ones who did snap up the $20.06 on offer through pay base, however I was stupid enough to reinvest. I am closing out the position and will still get an average price of $15. However I am now seeing this for what it is and that is just another alt coin, everything you can do in Pay Base once on line I can already do in one format or another here in Australia with BTC.
As for the hash stakers all of mine were converted hashlets as there was no point in keeping an investment that was never going to win, the premier account doesn't do anything for me as I am in Australia and most of the features will be US based, as Josh is trying to ensure everything he does is within the law only US citizens will be able to get a debit card.
Hashstakers are already a dead investment, if you bought a staker you have no chance of a ROI at $9.00 per coin. The converted ones will only miss the opportunity to sell their coins as the market is dying.
With only 1.4 million dollars in trade yesterday Josh should of been able to keep a $20 floor in place but chose not to, in fact had of Josh put and kept a $20 floor in place the markets would now be trading at around the same level.
So I now find myself asking what has happened to the supposed 100 million fiat, and the 10 million in BTC mined (as stated in the WJS article), the 10 million in BTC alone should have held a floor price.
I have been a semi supporter of GAW but now find the lies are to far fetched for me, I actually think LTC gear has more chance of paying me this week then I have in seeing the $20 floor price again.
So I must say I now think that most people here are right and I was probably wrong.
I'm in agreement here. The floor problem bothers me the most. Floor? You mean this floor bothers you? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforgifs.com%2Fgallery%2Fd%2F223304-2%2FElevator-trapdoor-slide-prank.gif%26t%3D547%26c%3D9_KXoKCNl8CALA&t=665&c=vlPlv5p9hpOPZw) Looks fine to me. I think you should send more money to Josh because he is a real swell guy. Oh, and the real XPY floor does not actually have a cool slide like that. You just plummet down and go splat. dam i was really wanting the slide seemed so cool I am always man enough to were my loses, just as I have with LTC Gear, I am just lucky that Prime Hashlets got me into a position of profit when I got extremely lucky and they went to $50, I sold 1 account that cleared all money spent on Crypto and have been playing with profit ever since, I also ensure I take a little for myself every week. I also do not believe there are any large investors and the tiny chat love in did nothing to inspire me, I feel for the people who paid $20 via credit card on Paycoin.com with the belief that there was a floor. To make it worse there is one Guy who bought 20K worth and then bought hashstakers to stake them. So effectively spent 39K for a 180 day return of more than likely of 26K including the return of his coin, a 13K loss and I am sure he is only the tip of the iceburg. I have only converted stakers and I cash my earnings every day regardless of price, this goes towards my weekly earn, will I stake again when some of these expire, Hell would have to freeze over or Pay Coin would have to somehow become a success. My main problem now is where to invest, home mining is out of the question power rates are to high in Australia. A lot of sites have fallen over, so for now I seem to be in a holding pattern. I am glad I did not cop an absolute flogging here, and if you now of any where to invest I am open to suggestions
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January 01, 2015, 08:26:44 AM |
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That's easy, avoid all shitcoin
Theirs no money in that now is there. Hodl Bitcoin Aaaaand.... your true agenda is shown. How do you feel now that BTC is consistently below $320 and no end in sight? I don't know about him, but I personally feel a hell of a lot better about holding the Bitcoin that I have compared to the morons who are watching their life savings disappear by holding Paycoin at the behest of the guy who is ripping them off. Neither coin is doing too well at the moment... correct.
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January 01, 2015, 08:33:17 AM |
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How do you feel now that BTC is consistently below $320 and no end in sight?
I don't know about him, but I personally feel a hell of a lot better about holding the Bitcoin that I have compared to the morons who are watching their life savings disappear by holding Paycoin at the behest of the guy who is ripping them off. Neither coin is doing too well at the moment... correct. Just because the exchange rate dropped doesn't mean bitcoin isn't doing well. Look at how much the ecosystem has evolved in the past 6 months. Microsoft, Newegg, Dell, etc now all accept bitcoin and the Winklevii trust fund is about to launch. Bitcoin can absorb millions of dollars worth of dumping and the price will drop a few percent. Paycoin cannot even absorb 100 bitcoins worth of dumping without the price dropping to satoshis.
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January 01, 2015, 08:37:05 AM |
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I'm in agreement here. The floor problem bothers me the most. You are still pro-gaw right? Do you own a bunch of hashstakers? How do you handle the idea of being stuck with them for 3-6 months when the value of paycoin2 is so low you can't possibly make a profit on it? Do you see any hope at this point? I've always said I was fairly neutral about the whole thing. I do like to bust some chops every now and then (I do so at HT too.) I converted all my primes into the expiring kind to try and extract as much as I could in 6 months. Cashing out at the market rates just wouldn't have cut it. I don't see how any of this paycoin thing is going to work. I sincerely doubt I'll be able to get out in 6 months and hundreds of others will be looking to cash out at the same time. I'm stuck.... but I'm doing my best to get out. So... if things get better in the next 3-6 months... great.
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January 01, 2015, 08:39:12 AM |
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I hate to admit it but this has gone badly, I was one of the few lucky ones who did snap up the $20.06 on offer through pay base, however I was stupid enough to reinvest. I am closing out the position and will still get an average price of $15. However I am now seeing this for what it is and that is just another alt coin, everything you can do in Pay Base once on line I can already do in one format or another here in Australia with BTC.
As for the hash stakers all of mine were converted hashlets as there was no point in keeping an investment that was never going to win, the premier account doesn't do anything for me as I am in Australia and most of the features will be US based, as Josh is trying to ensure everything he does is within the law only US citizens will be able to get a debit card.
Hashstakers are already a dead investment, if you bought a staker you have no chance of a ROI at $9.00 per coin. The converted ones will only miss the opportunity to sell their coins as the market is dying.
With only 1.4 million dollars in trade yesterday Josh should of been able to keep a $20 floor in place but chose not to, in fact had of Josh put and kept a $20 floor in place the markets would now be trading at around the same level.
So I now find myself asking what has happened to the supposed 100 million fiat, and the 10 million in BTC mined (as stated in the WJS article), the 10 million in BTC alone should have held a floor price.
I have been a semi supporter of GAW but now find the lies are to far fetched for me, I actually think LTC gear has more chance of paying me this week then I have in seeing the $20 floor price again.
So I must say I now think that most people here are right and I was probably wrong.
I'm in agreement here. The floor problem bothers me the most. Floor? You mean this floor bothers you? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforgifs.com%2Fgallery%2Fd%2F223304-2%2FElevator-trapdoor-slide-prank.gif%26t%3D547%26c%3D9_KXoKCNl8CALA&t=665&c=vlPlv5p9hpOPZw) Looks fine to me. I think you should send more money to Josh because he is a real swell guy. Oh, and the real XPY floor does not actually have a cool slide like that. You just plummet down and go splat. dam i was really wanting the slide seemed so cool I am always man enough to were my loses, just as I have with LTC Gear, I am just lucky that Prime Hashlets got me into a position of profit when I got extremely lucky and they went to $50, I sold 1 account that cleared all money spent on Crypto and have been playing with profit ever since, I also ensure I take a little for myself every week. I also do not believe there are any large investors and the tiny chat love in did nothing to inspire me, I feel for the people who paid $20 via credit card on Paycoin.com with the belief that there was a floor. To make it worse there is one Guy who bought 20K worth and then bought hashstakers to stake them. So effectively spent 39K for a 180 day return of more than likely of 26K including the return of his coin, a 13K loss and I am sure he is only the tip of the iceburg. I have only converted stakers and I cash my earnings every day regardless of price, this goes towards my weekly earn, will I stake again when some of these expire, Hell would have to freeze over or Pay Coin would have to somehow become a success. My main problem now is where to invest, home mining is out of the question power rates are to high in Australia. A lot of sites have fallen over, so for now I seem to be in a holding pattern. I am glad I did not cop an absolute flogging here, and if you now of any where to invest I am open to suggestions AMHash is probably the most transparent mining operation out there. Datacenter photos, live viewable hashrate, mining addresses released. Google search AMHash.
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January 01, 2015, 09:27:22 AM |
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Dunno if this has already been posted here, another example of GAW failing miserably: http://pastebin.com/qZXrYbFRUse cloudflare for protection but revealing server IP by running the mailserver on the same machine...
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January 01, 2015, 09:36:53 AM |
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Dunno if this has already been posted here, another example of GAW failing miserably: http://pastebin.com/qZXrYbFRUse cloudflare for protection but revealing server IP by running the mailserver on the same machine... GAWSOME!!!! Hey thats what you get when you hire the best money can buy like josh said right?
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January 01, 2015, 09:50:47 AM |
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GAW is so rich and powerful their CEO doesn't need a desk with a computer or paperwork or any of that antiquated 20th century junk! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVDaXQqN.png&t=665&c=CXpWgT6xmojzDA) Funny, the fan is a prop his wife is taking notes. lets start a caption contest. what has she written down?
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January 01, 2015, 09:51:22 AM |
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GAW is so rich and powerful their CEO doesn't need a desk with a computer or paperwork or any of that antiquated 20th century junk!
I want to know what that mystical object is to the left? Is that part of a prime controller that magically mints XPY?!? It's a chair Really? I guess it is on its side then? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) http://www.target.com/p/re-bungee-chair/-/A-16598933OUCH! the metal sides must hurt
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January 01, 2015, 10:08:36 AM |
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Hey haters, i wish you a good 2015! Try to evoluate a bit, don't be always so negative in your life. Grasp some fresh air and enjoy a real life 😄
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January 01, 2015, 10:08:36 AM |
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The faithful idiots keeping their coin on paybase are going to be the most hurt when the feds raid them.
Let's put the date on this scam as 12-31-2014 and not taint 2015. RIP XPY 2014.
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January 01, 2015, 10:14:25 AM |
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The faithful idiots keeping their coin on paybase are going to be the most hurt when the feds raid them.
Let's put the date on this scam as 12-31-2014 and not taint 2015. RIP XPY 2014.
You are one of the worst here, but I cannot blame such a low minded personality! Calling up other persons idiots or insulting those reflects that personality. 😃 You must be a genius in your field! But in any event I wish you too a good 2015.
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January 01, 2015, 10:18:04 AM |
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This one at meganet looks handy but 500 dollars ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidsonsinc.com%2Fdealers%2Fprod_images%2FPI-31502-03.jpg&t=665&c=GG_T5g7yzLzITg) Half price or less with xpy falling!
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January 01, 2015, 10:24:36 AM |
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I'm in agreement here. The floor problem bothers me the most. You are still pro-gaw right? Do you own a bunch of hashstakers? How do you handle the idea of being stuck with them for 3-6 months when the value of paycoin2 is so low you can't possibly make a profit on it? Do you see any hope at this point? I've always said I was fairly neutral about the whole thing. I do like to bust some chops every now and then (I do so at HT too.) I converted all my primes into the expiring kind to try and extract as much as I could in 6 months. Cashing out at the market rates just wouldn't have cut it. I don't see how any of this paycoin thing is going to work. I sincerely doubt I'll be able to get out in 6 months and hundreds of others will be looking to cash out at the same time. I'm stuck.... but I'm doing my best to get out. So... if things get better in the next 3-6 months... great. I hope you burn and lose everything
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January 01, 2015, 10:27:29 AM |
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I'm in agreement here. The floor problem bothers me the most. You are still pro-gaw right? Do you own a bunch of hashstakers? How do you handle the idea of being stuck with them for 3-6 months when the value of paycoin2 is so low you can't possibly make a profit on it? Do you see any hope at this point? I've always said I was fairly neutral about the whole thing. I do like to bust some chops every now and then (I do so at HT too.) I converted all my primes into the expiring kind to try and extract as much as I could in 6 months. Cashing out at the market rates just wouldn't have cut it. I don't see how any of this paycoin thing is going to work. I sincerely doubt I'll be able to get out in 6 months and hundreds of others will be looking to cash out at the same time. I'm stuck.... but I'm doing my best to get out. So... if things get better in the next 3-6 months... great. I hope you burn and lose everything If I've ever thought kindly of you sir I'd like to rethink that now
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Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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January 01, 2015, 10:28:45 AM |
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GAW is so rich and powerful their CEO doesn't need a desk with a computer or paperwork or any of that antiquated 20th century junk! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVDaXQqN.png&t=665&c=CXpWgT6xmojzDA) Funny, the fan is a prop his wife is taking notes. lets start a caption contest. what has she written down? Babe, when I finish stealing all these guys bitcoin and your brother's fiat, I want anal, then we go steal more at church. We have to leave this prop set soon.
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January 01, 2015, 10:36:01 AM |
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Even if by some miracle Paycoin2 price doesn't evaporate to virtually nothing, there's no way Josh will allow his victims to remove their coins stuck in takers at the same time.
Most likely he will allow you to withdraw tiny amounts every day. Releasing all at once will crash the price after all.. remember PayCoin2 rules change as you go.
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January 01, 2015, 10:44:04 AM |
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Homero bought ccn when cnn refused to interview him
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