GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[HashieNewb]

 I thought I would log in one last time to zenminer. My 6 month cashtakers have returned and the XPY I pulled out yesterday and sold is now a negative XPY balance.

 At the end of 91 days the cashtakers will have earned back only about half the negative balance (which is already sold)....I don't think it was supposed to work out this way lol. I made out early with 2x what I was due 90 days from now ? weird.....Mr Ganza's programmer sux.

edit: sorry, completely forgot about the 1 XPY per cashtaker- so early, yes. extra, sadly no.

[kken01]

For the 5 users that were given an invite, limited to $1,000 subsidized per day ($5,000 total per day)  the value of their daily dumps from the hyperstaking prime controllers increased in value by about $86,000 per day.  

Pretty good trade-off for GAW, but it won't scale to thousands of users, of course.  The invites will be few and far between, limited to only their biggest supporters.  And only sent out as necessary to pump the coin price when it starts dropping again.

day? they wish
its 1k per account total

this of course indicates that they will open it to from 5 users to like 50 users. still its NOTHING if they can pump the price with it
later on they will decrease xpy with some multiplier
eg. after 50 users you divide it by 5

[inspirone1]

Products and prices seem to be pulled from Amazon.

It's a very odd selection. Can anyone find a pattern to it?

Take the first item on the PC page: https://coinstand.com/#/search/c/PCHardware

Apple MB323LL/A iMac 20-inch 2.4GHz 2GB Intel Core 2 Duo, 1GB ram. $740

That model number is from early 2008: 
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP485?locale=en_US

It's a five year old computer. Maybe it's new in the box, but it's hardly the sort of thing you'd choose to emphasize.

The only place I can find Amazon selling that model (new) is
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MB323LL-20-inch-2-4GHz-Aluminum/dp/B0019N889M
Only one third-party retailer is selling this through Apple, in new condition, and it's this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0019N889M/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

The price ($740) matches this retailer's listing, so this is probably where they got it. But if we click through to the retailer's listing ... it's not even a new computer even though they've listed it under "new." . It's "like new pristine condition." OS upgraded.

The point isn't that it's a used computer, but that the inventory is a bizarre collection of old computers, VHS tapes, what someone on HT aptly described as looking like a yard sale. There's got to be a pattern that would explain how their software selected this particular set of items.

All coinstands listing link back to amazon (look at inspect element) I am sure that this is just a pool off some amazon affiliate automation. All pictures and everything are hosted from amazon. If you look around and find unique items you can correlate it back to amazon only. But the price is discounted on coinstand by a set %. This is just to scammy.

[dave01]

Products and prices seem to be pulled from Amazon.

It's a very odd selection. Can anyone find a pattern to it?

Take the first item on the PC page: https://coinstand.com/#/search/c/PCHardware

Apple MB323LL/A iMac 20-inch 2.4GHz 2GB Intel Core 2 Duo, 1GB ram. $740

That model number is from early 2008: 
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP485?locale=en_US

It's a five year old computer. Maybe it's new in the box, but it's hardly the sort of thing you'd choose to emphasize.

The only place I can find Amazon selling that model (new) is
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MB323LL-20-inch-2-4GHz-Aluminum/dp/B0019N889M
Only one third-party retailer is selling this through Apple, in new condition, and it's this one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0019N889M/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

The price ($740) matches this retailer's listing, so this is probably where they got it. But if we click through to the retailer's listing ... it's not even a new computer even though they've listed it under "new." . It's "like new pristine condition." OS upgraded.

The point isn't that it's a used computer, but that the inventory is a bizarre collection of old computers, VHS tapes, what someone on HT aptly described as looking like a yard sale. There's got to be a pattern that would explain how their software selected this particular set of items.

All coinstands listing link back to amazon (look at inspect element) I am sure that this is just a pool off some amazon affiliate automation. All pictures and everything are hosted from amazon. If you look around and find unique items you can correlate it back to amazon only. But the price is discounted on coinstand by a set %. This is just to scammy.

Could you see this a phase one, next phase full amazon mode, is that what you mean?

[-Redacted-]

For the 5 users that were given an invite, limited to $1,000 subsidized per day ($5,000 total per day)  the value of their daily dumps from the hyperstaking prime controllers increased in value by about $86,000 per day.  

Pretty good trade-off for GAW, but it won't scale to thousands of users, of course.  The invites will be few and far between, limited to only their biggest supporters.  And only sent out as necessary to pump the coin price when it starts dropping again.

day? they wish
its 1k per account total

this of course indicates that they will open it to from 5 users to like 50 users. still its NOTHING if they can pump the price with it
later on they will decrease xpy with some multiplier
eg. after 50 users you divide it by 5

The info out there seems to be that it's $1K per user per day.  This isn't possible to verify at the current time, since things are "offline for maintenance" currently.  But even at $1k per day this is a nice money making scheme for "someone" dumping XPY and whoever gets the 10% from the affiliate fees.

If the products are actually coming from Amazon, I suspect that there is an issue with their TOS.  They don't like things like this...

[adipurnama]

For the 5 users that were given an invite, limited to $1,000 subsidized per day ($5,000 total per day)  the value of their daily dumps from the hyperstaking prime controllers increased in value by about $86,000 per day.  

Pretty good trade-off for GAW, but it won't scale to thousands of users, of course.  The invites will be few and far between, limited to only their biggest supporters.  And only sent out as necessary to pump the coin price when it starts dropping again.

day? they wish
its 1k per account total

this of course indicates that they will open it to from 5 users to like 50 users. still its NOTHING if they can pump the price with it
later on they will decrease xpy with some multiplier
eg. after 50 users you divide it by 5

The info out there seems to be that it's $1K per user per day.  This isn't possible to verify at the current time, since things are "offline for maintenance" currently.  But even at $1k per day this is a nice money making scheme for "someone" dumping XPY and whoever gets the 10% from the affiliate fees.

If the products are actually coming from Amazon, I suspect that there is an issue with their TOS.  They don't like things like this...

they are the idiots who fooled by josh with fake stores

[Tristan49]

I'm waiting until the day were Josh starts posting things like :


When XPY hits 2$, I will issue 200 new invites!

Or

If XPY gets to 2$ within the next week, I will release a new feature!

[kken01]

the info from HT would say the following (i cant check if its true in reality):
GAWCEO and BITCOINBAR said it was 1k "at least temporary" per account so i thought that was the plan. of course it could be different knowing GAW  

[vObh0n]6W]

For the 5 users that were given an invite, limited to $1,000 subsidized per day ($5,000 total per day)  the value of their daily dumps from the hyperstaking prime controllers increased in value by about $86,000 per day.  

Pretty good trade-off for GAW, but it won't scale to thousands of users, of course.  The invites will be few and far between, limited to only their biggest supporters.  And only sent out as necessary to pump the coin price when it starts dropping again.

day? they wish
its 1k per account total

this of course indicates that they will open it to from 5 users to like 50 users. still its NOTHING if they can pump the price with it
later on they will decrease xpy with some multiplier
eg. after 50 users you divide it by 5

The info out there seems to be that it's $1K per user per day.  This isn't possible to verify at the current time, since things are "offline for maintenance" currently.  But even at $1k per day this is a nice money making scheme for "someone" dumping XPY and whoever gets the 10% from the affiliate fees.

If the products are actually coming from Amazon, I suspect that there is an issue with their TOS.  They don't like things like this...

As far as I can tell the only blanket prohibition on reselling from Amazon is for Prime members. The regular terms don't say you can't buy for other people. See http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=footer_cou/181-3168449-7186220?ie=UTF8&nodeId=508088

[inspirone1]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

[vObh0n]6W]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

Is there anything there that violate any of amazon's terms? Perhaps the pulling of images from amazon, but I'm not sure if that's explicitly prohibited. In particular, whether linking to images counts as use of "Amazon Software".

[inspirone1]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

Is there anything there that violate any of amazon's terms? Perhaps the pulling of images from amazon, but I'm not sure if that's explicitly prohibited. In particular, whether linking to images counts as use of "Amazon Software".

 There is nothing right about any of it and what tos/toa they are breaking depend on if they are affiliated or not. If they affiliated they are allowed to link as such but they cannot handle the money themselves and they cannot offer them for less than asking price. If they are not affiliated they are stealing the pics descriptions and hosting/bandwidth.
 Just plain dirty business and nothing legit about it.

[racebyu]

Just noticed some big red bars on Cryptsy now, price has dropped down, any Cashtakes come due late tonight?

Actually taking a hard turn south right now, about 16k xpy.

[vObh0n]6W]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

Is there anything there that violate any of amazon's terms? Perhaps the pulling of images from amazon, but I'm not sure if that's explicitly prohibited. In particular, whether linking to images counts as use of "Amazon Software".

 There is nothing right about any of it and what tos/toa they are breaking depend on if they are affiliated or not. If they affiliated they are allowed to link as such but they cannot handle the money themselves and they cannot offer them for less than asking price. If they are not affiliated they are stealing the pics descriptions and hosting/bandwidth.
 Just plain dirty business and nothing legit about it.

Let's assume they aren't affiliated.

Which part of the terms say that you can't link to pics directly and copy the descriptions?

[suchmoon]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

Is there anything there that violate any of amazon's terms? Perhaps the pulling of images from amazon, but I'm not sure if that's explicitly prohibited. In particular, whether linking to images counts as use of "Amazon Software".

Come on, again?

Read the affiliate program's TOS, and product advertising API's TOS. Purchase must be done by the end user on Amazon website, period.

If they are doing something different it violates the terms of one or both of these programs.

Yes, you can resell Amazon products, but not this way.

[suchmoon]

Which part of the terms say that you can't link to pics directly and copy the descriptions?

Please stop.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&nodeId=508088

And we're still waiting for your analysis of GAW's e-mails.

[kken01]

Let's assume they aren't affiliated.

Which part of the terms say that you can't link to pics directly and copy the descriptions?

wtf? lets say GAW has no history of anything. and they do that
thats you getting fucked by a 4x4 pole


YES FREE SERVICE OF PICS RIGHT HERE PEOPLE

[vObh0n]6W]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

Is there anything there that violate any of amazon's terms? Perhaps the pulling of images from amazon, but I'm not sure if that's explicitly prohibited. In particular, whether linking to images counts as use of "Amazon Software".

Come on, again?

Read the affiliate program's TOS, and product advertising API's TOS. Purchase must be done by the end user on Amazon website, period.

If they are doing something different it violates the terms of one or both of these programs.

Yes, you can resell Amazon products, but not this way.

You don't have to join one of those programs, though. If they aren't an affiliate, what parts of the terms is being violated?

Which part of the terms say that you can't link to pics directly and copy the descriptions?

Please stop.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&nodeId=508088

Notice I linked to that above. Which part of it prohibits linking to images, or reselling items? Linking to a long document and claiming it says something isn't helpful. Excerpt the parts you think support your claim.

[inspirone1]

This cannot be legit as far as a affiliation goes as they offering them below amazons pricing. All they are doing is using amazon to populate their website as why build a real one from scratch for a scam. Come on guy we all realize this is just another scam do we not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  I bet anything amazon knows nothing about this and would have it shut down if they did.

Is there anything there that violate any of amazon's terms? Perhaps the pulling of images from amazon, but I'm not sure if that's explicitly prohibited. In particular, whether linking to images counts as use of "Amazon Software".

 There is nothing right about any of it and what tos/toa they are breaking depend on if they are affiliated or not. If they affiliated they are allowed to link as such but they cannot handle the money themselves and they cannot offer them for less than asking price. If they are not affiliated they are stealing the pics descriptions and hosting/bandwidth.
 Just plain dirty business and nothing legit about it.

Let's assume they aren't affiliated.

Which part of the terms say that you can't link to pics directly and copy the descriptions?

Read up on copyright and dmca and that covers the use of pics and inline linking.

[suchmoon]

Notice I linked to that above. Which part of it prohibits linking to images, or reselling items? Linking to a long document and claiming it says something isn't helpful. Excerpt the parts you think support your claim.

Read "LICENSE AND ACCESS" and the rest of it too. Is there a particular reason why you adopted Vlad's strategy of posting without reading? Is there a particular reason why you expect me to do your homework?