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March 25, 2015, 06:32:05 PM
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looks like a bunch of you mother fuckers goona get a good bitch slapping pretty soon. bitpop you might have to get off you fat ass and do some running. can you make it 25 yards?...

Have you seen this bitpop?  You need to lawyer up  Cheesy Cheesy
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March 25, 2015, 06:34:03 PM
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Hammer time for all you assholes.
Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.

You're a funny guy. So what is your involvement with Paycoin ?

Assuming you are genuinely interested in "protecting crypto", what incentives have been offered for you to take this hysterically defensive position of GAW that flies in the face of conventional wisdom and experience documented in this thread ?

Good luck getting around the First Amendment !
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March 25, 2015, 06:35:13 PM
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I will finish by saying that personally, I am pretty adept at spotting a fraud.



FFS, it's right in front of you and you can't see it's a fraud? Well sir, you are a complete failure aren't you? Have fun with your playcoins. Bitpop will just take you out with his ray-gun from meganet if you keep it up, i'm quite sure...  Roll Eyes


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March 25, 2015, 06:39:04 PM
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looks like a bunch of you mother fuckers goona get a good bitch slapping pretty soon. bitpop you might have to get off you fat ass and do some running. can you make it 25 yards?...

Nice first post. Welcome.
You'd best get into running shape too suchmoon. Hammer time for all you assholes

uh oh ! looks like we got an internet tuff guy...



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March 25, 2015, 06:47:49 PM
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looks like a bunch of you mother fuckers goona get a good bitch slapping pretty soon. bitpop you might have to get off you fat ass and do some running. can you make it 25 yards?...

Nice first post. Welcome.
You'd best get into running shape too suchmoon. Hammer time for all you assholes.
Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.

There has been a very vocal campaign against the previously highly regarded supplier, GAW Miners, and going even further targeting their CEO Josh Garza, and has also questioned our position on these matters. In response to this, I am issuing the following unambiguous statement.

We do not share the opinion that this operation,or Mr Garza are intending to defraud, or have defrauded any investor in Hashlets, Hashstakers, Paycoin XPY, or any other product or service supplied by GAW or it's companies. We are not associated with these companies beyond personal & private holdings of Hashstakers, Zen Hashlets and XPY Paycoin, and are not paid by these companies.
They are accused of reneging on contracts, there is no evidence of this. Reneging on promises. There were never price promises, beyond individual expectation of market value, and the anticipated $20 floor, a concept since reformed into the honours program, which whilst indefinitely delayed, pending the resolving of legal issues, is still very much active. Some proposed features have been shelved, delayed, or abandoned due to direct effects of the current hate campaign, and other features have since been proposed, some are better.
Leaked emails, widely circulated, have been obtained illegally and are legally confidential. They must be disregarded due to their origin being from a hacked external, and uncredited anonymous source. The hacking of privileged company resources also indicates that the hacker may easily have fabricated these emails using hijacked services, or had physical access to those resources.

Neither GAW, Zencloud or any other GAW operation, has at this time, directly or indirectly defrauded anybody regarding the conversion to hashstakers and XPY. This was always a choice, freely chosen by the individual.
The campaign against GAW is a phenomenon that is unprecedented, and has become almost a cult. The vehemence of these detractors - the majority of whom are non investors - has had a visible effect on trust and wider adoption of this XPY. This campaign was fuelled by a core few individuals, would be members of a kind of informal 'old guard' of Crypto. It is an indefensible action.
We cannot accept any of these third party, sometimes absurd allegations as hard evidence, neither can anybody else who does not have unrestricted access to confidential original company accounts, minutes of meetings and internal and external correspondence. Therefore, were we to conclude that there was a scam going on, it would be pure conjecture, and that is morally and professionally irresponsible, and would leave us fairly justly liable, to prosecution for libellous actions. The majority of the supposed evidence so far,  has no covenance and in some cases is even unknown of by the correspondents. Being unverifiable non original data, it is simply not worthy of consideration for any practical purpose.
GAW are also a registered company, with a strong track record. We have no desire to participate in any clearly orchestrated campaign against a hard working company.

Where we list other registered companies, it is always after confirming beyond doubt, that the company is using faked covenance, or is non-existent. We aren't here to investigate legal entities, already subject to outside audit.

I will finish by saying that personally, I am pretty adept at spotting a fraud. I do not believe that any deliberate attempt is being made to defraud anybody by Josh Garza. I do believe that the real damage being done to investors is due to this core group of 'haters' who resent this innovation and this rightly perceived threat to their own interests, and as such are prepared to originate and fuel this disinformation, not excluding illegally obtaining discreditable and confidential correspondence.

This is not intended as investment advice.

 

 

Ultimately, there will be a definitive outcome to this ongoing debacle. We'd like to come out of it with our integrity intact as well.

ViK. Editor & Project Lead. March 24th 2015

http://www.badbitcoin.org/gaw.htm

At least give credit to the original source. Thinking twice... probably best not to since it is badbitcoin.  Roll Eyes
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March 25, 2015, 06:49:47 PM
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looks like a bunch of you mother fuckers goona get a good bitch slapping pretty soon. bitpop you might have to get off you fat ass and do some running. can you make it 25 yards?...

Nice first post. Welcome.

You'd best get into running shape too suchmoon. Hammer time for all you assholes.

Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.
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Give it time, the reality will sink in. I'm sure Paul will be around soon with "Paycoined" to help you with that.
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March 25, 2015, 06:51:09 PM
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looks like a bunch of you mother fuckers goona get a good bitch slapping pretty soon. bitpop you might have to get off you fat ass and do some running. can you make it 25 yards?...

Nice first post. Welcome.
You'd best get into running shape too suchmoon. Hammer time for all you assholes.
Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.

There has been a very vocal campaign against the previously highly regarded supplier, GAW Miners, and going even further targeting their CEO Josh Garza, and has also questioned our position on these matters. In response to this, I am issuing the following unambiguous statement.

We do not share the opinion that this operation,or Mr Garza are intending to defraud, or have defrauded any investor in Hashlets, Hashstakers, Paycoin XPY, or any other product or service supplied by GAW or it's companies. We are not associated with these companies beyond personal & private holdings of Hashstakers, Zen Hashlets and XPY Paycoin, and are not paid by these companies.
They are accused of reneging on contracts, there is no evidence of this. Reneging on promises. There were never price promises, beyond individual expectation of market value, and the anticipated $20 floor, a concept since reformed into the honours program, which whilst indefinitely delayed, pending the resolving of legal issues, is still very much active. Some proposed features have been shelved, delayed, or abandoned due to direct effects of the current hate campaign, and other features have since been proposed, some are better.
Leaked emails, widely circulated, have been obtained illegally and are legally confidential. They must be disregarded due to their origin being from a hacked external, and uncredited anonymous source. The hacking of privileged company resources also indicates that the hacker may easily have fabricated these emails using hijacked services, or had physical access to those resources.

Neither GAW, Zencloud or any other GAW operation, has at this time, directly or indirectly defrauded anybody regarding the conversion to hashstakers and XPY. This was always a choice, freely chosen by the individual.
The campaign against GAW is a phenomenon that is unprecedented, and has become almost a cult. The vehemence of these detractors - the majority of whom are non investors - has had a visible effect on trust and wider adoption of this XPY. This campaign was fuelled by a core few individuals, would be members of a kind of informal 'old guard' of Crypto. It is an indefensible action.
We cannot accept any of these third party, sometimes absurd allegations as hard evidence, neither can anybody else who does not have unrestricted access to confidential original company accounts, minutes of meetings and internal and external correspondence. Therefore, were we to conclude that there was a scam going on, it would be pure conjecture, and that is morally and professionally irresponsible, and would leave us fairly justly liable, to prosecution for libellous actions. The majority of the supposed evidence so far,  has no covenance and in some cases is even unknown of by the correspondents. Being unverifiable non original data, it is simply not worthy of consideration for any practical purpose.
GAW are also a registered company, with a strong track record. We have no desire to participate in any clearly orchestrated campaign against a hard working company.

Where we list other registered companies, it is always after confirming beyond doubt, that the company is using faked covenance, or is non-existent. We aren't here to investigate legal entities, already subject to outside audit.

I will finish by saying that personally, I am pretty adept at spotting a fraud. I do not believe that any deliberate attempt is being made to defraud anybody by Josh Garza. I do believe that the real damage being done to investors is due to this core group of 'haters' who resent this innovation and this rightly perceived threat to their own interests, and as such are prepared to originate and fuel this disinformation, not excluding illegally obtaining discreditable and confidential correspondence.

This is not intended as investment advice.

 

 

Ultimately, there will be a definitive outcome to this ongoing debacle. We'd like to come out of it with our integrity intact as well.

ViK. Editor & Project Lead. March 24th 2015

http://www.badbitcoin.org/gaw.htm

At least give credit to the original source. Thinking twice... probably best not to since it is badbitcoin.  Roll Eyes
Everybody take a minute to give him a shit WOT rating so people don't think they can trust him.

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March 25, 2015, 06:52:38 PM
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looks like a bunch of you mother fuckers goona get a good bitch slapping pretty soon. bitpop you might have to get off you fat ass and do some running. can you make it 25 yards?...

Nice first post. Welcome.
You'd best get into running shape too suchmoon. Hammer time for all you assholes.
Our position regarding GAW and Paycoin. These unsupported "indisputable facts" versus the reality.

There has been a very vocal campaign against the previously highly regarded supplier, GAW Miners, and going even further targeting their CEO Josh Garza, and has also questioned our position on these matters. In response to this, I am issuing the following unambiguous statement.

We do not share the opinion that this operation,or Mr Garza are intending to defraud, or have defrauded any investor in Hashlets, Hashstakers, Paycoin XPY, or any other product or service supplied by GAW or it's companies. We are not associated with these companies beyond personal & private holdings of Hashstakers, Zen Hashlets and XPY Paycoin, and are not paid by these companies.
They are accused of reneging on contracts, there is no evidence of this. Reneging on promises. There were never price promises, beyond individual expectation of market value, and the anticipated $20 floor, a concept since reformed into the honours program, which whilst indefinitely delayed, pending the resolving of legal issues, is still very much active. Some proposed features have been shelved, delayed, or abandoned due to direct effects of the current hate campaign, and other features have since been proposed, some are better.
Leaked emails, widely circulated, have been obtained illegally and are legally confidential. They must be disregarded due to their origin being from a hacked external, and uncredited anonymous source. The hacking of privileged company resources also indicates that the hacker may easily have fabricated these emails using hijacked services, or had physical access to those resources.

Neither GAW, Zencloud or any other GAW operation, has at this time, directly or indirectly defrauded anybody regarding the conversion to hashstakers and XPY. This was always a choice, freely chosen by the individual.
The campaign against GAW is a phenomenon that is unprecedented, and has become almost a cult. The vehemence of these detractors - the majority of whom are non investors - has had a visible effect on trust and wider adoption of this XPY. This campaign was fuelled by a core few individuals, would be members of a kind of informal 'old guard' of Crypto. It is an indefensible action.
We cannot accept any of these third party, sometimes absurd allegations as hard evidence, neither can anybody else who does not have unrestricted access to confidential original company accounts, minutes of meetings and internal and external correspondence. Therefore, were we to conclude that there was a scam going on, it would be pure conjecture, and that is morally and professionally irresponsible, and would leave us fairly justly liable, to prosecution for libellous actions. The majority of the supposed evidence so far,  has no covenance and in some cases is even unknown of by the correspondents. Being unverifiable non original data, it is simply not worthy of consideration for any practical purpose.
GAW are also a registered company, with a strong track record. We have no desire to participate in any clearly orchestrated campaign against a hard working company.

Where we list other registered companies, it is always after confirming beyond doubt, that the company is using faked covenance, or is non-existent. We aren't here to investigate legal entities, already subject to outside audit.

I will finish by saying that personally, I am pretty adept at spotting a fraud. I do not believe that any deliberate attempt is being made to defraud anybody by Josh Garza. I do believe that the real damage being done to investors is due to this core group of 'haters' who resent this innovation and this rightly perceived threat to their own interests, and as such are prepared to originate and fuel this disinformation, not excluding illegally obtaining discreditable and confidential correspondence.

This is not intended as investment advice.

 

 

Ultimately, there will be a definitive outcome to this ongoing debacle. We'd like to come out of it with our integrity intact as well.

ViK. Editor & Project Lead. March 24th 2015

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https://hashtalk.org/topic/34947/wallet-paycoin-com-security-breach-update

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We have discovered that there has been a slight security breach on wallet.paycoin.com today with a very small number of accounts compromised - we are aware of the problem and would just ask that if you have a wallet there to please login and check the balance.

Any coins in your account which may missing will be replaced and our team of devs are looking into the problem. Transactions on the website wallet have been disabled and a second line of security has been implemented too. You will not be able to deposit or withdraw but can login normally.

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https://hashtalk.org/topic/34947/wallet-paycoin-com-security-breach-update

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We have discovered that there has been a slight security breach on wallet.paycoin.com today with a very small number of accounts compromised - we are aware of the problem and would just ask that if you have a wallet there to please login and check the balance.

Any coins in your account which may missing will be replaced and our team of devs are looking into the problem. Transactions on the website wallet have been disabled and a second line of security has been implemented too. You will not be able to deposit or withdraw but can login normally.

coincidence  Shocked
The 'we got hacked' routine is really getting old.  Just another way to lock up the coins so they can't be dumped. 

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We have discovered that there has been a slight security breach on wallet.paycoin.com today with a very small number of accounts compromised - we are aware of the problem and would just ask that if you have a wallet there to please login and check the balance.

Any coins in your account which may missing will be replaced and our team of devs are looking into the problem. Transactions on the website wallet have been disabled and a second line of security has been implemented too. You will not be able to deposit or withdraw but can login normally.

coincidence  Shocked
The 'we got hacked' routine is really getting old.  Just another way to lock up the coins so they can't be dumped. 



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payabase.com and paycoin.com now hold all your coins hostage - as a precaution to prevent those pesky hackers dumping them and depressing the price.
the question is, if the customers are no longer able to dump paycoin, who is?  8-15k at a time Smiley
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I kinda like this chart, although I think the price for XPY is still too high.
Soon 1 XPY will be worth about 0.00000001 DOGE.

 
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bad authy! u destroy crypto world! u are unsecure! engage!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpk7Kx4dt-U

The dying PayCoin (2015)

P.S. Sorry, I think I am blacklisted on HashTalk and can't congratulate all Paycoined with this clip Smiley
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bad authy! u destroy crypto world! u are unsecure! engage!

Cheesy
So in other words they had no idea how to properly code security and got destroyed, or it was an inside job.  The timing does seem to fit in nicely with everything else, especially since it's run by that shady pastor working close with Homero

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It's beautiful!  Grin

 
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hashlet commercial at its best.
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everyone moves from paybase to paycoin.com - get mugged - and praise teamxpy how well they are doing? amazing Smiley
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everyone moves from paybase to paycoin.com - get mugged - and praise teamxpy how well they are doing? amazing Smiley

paycoin.com is totally independent from GAW. A community project that will develop new features™ and save paycoin!!!1!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

 
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