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March 27, 2015, 07:14:12 PM
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suchmoon thats priceless  Grin so the implication is that paycoin will never get features!  Cool

ikeboy thats wicked. from that quote i opened this part about Suppressive Persons
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The Church's official glossary defines a suppressive person as being:

    a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous. Also called antisocial personality.[8]

The Church regards these "antisocial personalities" as being those "who possess characteristics and mental attitudes that cause them to violently oppose any betterment activity or group,"[9] This concern with "groups" continues in the official Scientology Handbook, which states the corollary: "The antisocial personality supports only destructive groups."[10]

that sounds about 100% what GAW and its supporters have painted bct/cf/reddit/gh/etc as. MrConCoins specially talks all day every day about these destructive groups  Grin


Yes, but they're all chicken to do anything real. The worst so far was a death threat on coinfire's blog once. DDOS, hacks, if you know what you're doing don't carry too much risk. Gaw is several levels away from Scientology tactics.

Oh, and the Church was very well funded.

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March 27, 2015, 07:17:30 PM
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http://news.paybase.com/following-a-delay-in-withdrawals-on-paybase-enhanced-security-measures-account-for-all-funds/

Following a Delay in Withdrawals on PayBase Enhanced Security Measures Account for All Funds
Bloomfield, CT – After limited access during the course of the past nine plus days, users of PayBase and ZenCloud have resumed in the ability to withdraw funds from their online wallet accounts. The delay happened as a result of enhanced security measures employed by GAW Miners, the company that owns the PayCoin wallet services. The security measures taken are a part of an enhanced practice that has ensured the security of customer funds to the extent that no funds have ever been compromised. While the delay in withdrawals certainly caused some anxiety among PayBase customers, the delay versus a loss of funds was greatly appreciated.

Heightened security was implemented as a result of many of GAW Miners’ Hashstakers expiring, leading to a release of thousands of PayCoins and an overwhelming amount of activity. The enhanced level of security ensured proper funds were being directed to the rightful PayCoin owners’ ZenCloud account and the accounting of all funds.

“It’s no secret we’ve been hacked from outside sources, but these nefarious efforts have never resulted in customer funds being compromised, ever,” said H. Josh Garza, CEO of GAW Miners, the company that operates PayBase and ZenCloud. “Because of the ongoing attempts to undermine our systems, we’ve employed very rigorous levels of security that some just don’t like, but in the end are appreciated as we’ve never lost customers’ funds. However, we’ve learned that there will always be critics.”

The theft of cryptocurrencies has been pervasive in a category that can best be likened to the wild west of the financial sector, where integrity and honor are seemingly at a loss. The much-publicized Bitcoin theft in February 2014 is a case in point as cryptocurrencies, as secure as they may be are for all intents and purposes, a bearer instruments.

“Just recieved my missing bitcoin Deposit, thanks Paybase team, just please next time be quicker ☺ ) but still KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.” Said Archibullo, a blogger on the Hashtalk blogsite in response to the company’s effort.
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March 27, 2015, 07:20:04 PM
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thats true. which is good. once it escalates to that level it usually snow balls out of control. most people that drink the koolaid over there still retain most of their common intelligence, they just loose critical thinking ability about broken promises / lies due to past good performance

im sure Mr Gonzo will try this defense when he goes to trial
The sovereign citizen movement is a loose grouping of American litigants, commentators, tax protesters and financial-scheme promoters. Self-described sovereign citizens take the position that they are answerable only to their particular interpretation of the common law and are not subject to any statutes or proceedings at the federal, state or municipal levels or that they do not recognize U.S. currency and that they are "free of any legal constraints"
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March 27, 2015, 07:21:14 PM
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WTF? Just yesterday they were claiming that funds were stolen and would be replaced. And now they say that funds were NOT stolen. Well, which one is a lie? It is like they have a drunken monkey clacking away at the keys over there posting random shit.

P.S: I suspect the decision was made to change the story because the blockchain would bust their scamming asses and reveal that there never was a theft, just as many(myself included) were saying all along.

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March 27, 2015, 07:21:56 PM
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http://news.paybase.com/following-a-delay-in-withdrawals-on-paybase-enhanced-security-measures-account-for-all-funds/

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The theft of cryptocurrencies has been pervasive in a category that can best be likened to the wild west of the financial sector, where integrity and honor are seemingly at a loss. The much-publicized Bitcoin theft in February 2014 is a case in point as cryptocurrencies, as secure as they may be are for all intents and purposes, a bearer instruments.


Can't parse that last sentence. What is "a bearer instruments?" Does that mean Josh is writing these again? The rest seems too sophisticated for him.

Also, why was it on news and not blog? Does that mean this is going to be an article somewhere like the other items there?

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March 27, 2015, 07:22:25 PM
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Screen recording of gawminers.com redirecting to coinstand.com

http://youtu.be/uxYispIk2vY
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March 27, 2015, 07:23:15 PM
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http://news.paybase.com/following-a-delay-in-withdrawals-on-paybase-enhanced-security-measures-account-for-all-funds/

Following a Delay in Withdrawals on PayBase Enhanced Security Measures Account for All Funds
Bloomfield, CT – After limited access during the course of the past nine plus days, users of PayBase and ZenCloud have resumed in the ability to withdraw funds from their online wallet accounts. The delay happened as a result of enhanced security measures employed by GAW Miners, the company that owns the PayCoin wallet services. The security measures taken are a part of an enhanced practice that has ensured the security of customer funds to the extent that no funds have ever been compromised. While the delay in withdrawals certainly caused some anxiety among PayBase customers, the delay versus a loss of funds was greatly appreciated.

Heightened security was implemented as a result of many of GAW Miners’ Hashstakers expiring, leading to a release of thousands of PayCoins and an overwhelming amount of activity. The enhanced level of security ensured proper funds were being directed to the rightful PayCoin owners’ ZenCloud account and the accounting of all funds.

“It’s no secret we’ve been hacked from outside sources, but these nefarious efforts have never resulted in customer funds being compromised, ever,” said H. Josh Garza, CEO of GAW Miners, the company that operates PayBase and ZenCloud. “Because of the ongoing attempts to undermine our systems, we’ve employed very rigorous levels of security that some just don’t like, but in the end are appreciated as we’ve never lost customers’ funds. However, we’ve learned that there will always be critics.”

The theft of cryptocurrencies has been pervasive in a category that can best be likened to the wild west of the financial sector, where integrity and honor are seemingly at a loss. The much-publicized Bitcoin theft in February 2014 is a case in point as cryptocurrencies, as secure as they may be are for all intents and purposes, a bearer instruments.

“Just recieved my missing bitcoin Deposit, thanks Paybase team, just please next time be quicker ☺ ) but still KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.” Said Archibullo, a blogger on the Hashtalk blogsite in response to the company’s effort.

Which is all a load of BS of course. Withdrawals from ZenCloud worked when HashStakers expired. Withdrawals from Paybase were halted before HashStakers expired. Smoke and mirrors. I love the Mt.Gox reference though.

"a blogger on the Hashtalk blogsite" - WTF is that?
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March 27, 2015, 07:23:20 PM
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WTF? Just yesterday they were claiming that funds were stolen and would be replaced. And now they say that funds were NOT stolen. Well, which one is a lie? It is like they have a drunken monkey clacking away at the keys over there.

I think they're saying that Paybase hasn't lost funds, and the one that was hacked was Paycoin.com, which "officially" isn't in their control anymore.

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March 27, 2015, 07:24:40 PM
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WTF? Just yesterday they were claiming that funds were stolen and would be replaced. And now they say that funds were NOT stolen. Well, which one is a lie? It is like they have a drunken monkey clacking away at the keys over there posting random shit.

P.S: I suspect the decision was made to change the story because the blockchain would bust their scamming asses and reveal that there never was a theft, just as many(myself included) were saying all along.

the hack was to the team-paycoin-controller paycoin.com . paybase, gaw-controleld, was not hacked...of course, that's according to what they say.
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WTF? Just yesterday they were claiming that funds were stolen and would be replaced. And now they say that funds were NOT stolen. Well, which one is a lie? It is like they have a drunken monkey clacking away at the keys over there.

I think they're saying that Paybase hasn't lost funds, and the one that was hacked was Paycoin.com, which "officially" isn't in their control anymore.
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March 27, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
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Screen recording of gawminers.com redirecting to coinstand.com

http://youtu.be/uxYispIk2vY

dont worry, its intentional Wink



but theres no link of course between GAW, Gonzo or Constand  Cool the gift letter was inserted by TheMage by hacking youtube.com and the img upload services  Grin
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March 27, 2015, 07:26:08 PM
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Screen recording of gawminers.com redirecting to coinstand.com

http://youtu.be/uxYispIk2vY

While this is important, it isn't quite

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Proof that GAWMiners owns/operates Coinstand.com

I can redirect a website to Google.com, that doesn't mean I own it.

That said, at this point it's pretty clear GAW does have an extremely close connection to coinstand, if not owning and setting it up directly.

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March 27, 2015, 07:37:50 PM
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Illegal or not, this behavior by people who are supposedly in charge of Millions of $ of peoples holdings in Paycoin is absolutely effing ridiculous. This really is like Scientology type cult behavior.

Talking about Scientology, I am looking forward to the HBO documentary, Going Clear : scientology and the prison of belief. It airs in two days.  Scientology is a stain which needs to be removed ASAP.
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March 27, 2015, 07:38:17 PM
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almost sure gawminers will file for BK protection sooner or later and that's why he doesn't want to associate anything of the new with the old that has unpaid electric bills, PR bills, etc, etc, etc

from the leaked emails, we all know Homero has his hands deep in coinstand
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March 27, 2015, 07:45:23 PM
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Seems many people do not agree that Paybase/Zen are working:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/35110/withdraw-xpy-deposit-btc-works-now-verified-by-me-right-now/19
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March 27, 2015, 07:54:50 PM
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but hey MrConCoins and all mighty GAWD Mr Gonzo said its working. those people on HT must be FUDsters  Cool

anyway lets ignore the fact that its not fully working. who in their right mind would use them anymore, if your funds are frozen randomly for 1-2 weeks? remind you of mt. gox much? gox had a following till the end
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http://news.paybase.com/following-a-delay-in-withdrawals-on-paybase-enhanced-security-measures-account-for-all-funds/

Following a Delay in Withdrawals on PayBase Enhanced Security Measures Account for All Funds
Bloomfield, CT – After limited access during the course of the past nine plus days, users of PayBase and ZenCloud have resumed in the ability to withdraw funds from their online wallet accounts. The delay happened as a result of enhanced security measures employed by GAW Miners, the company that owns the PayCoin wallet services. The security measures taken are a part of an enhanced practice that has ensured the security of customer funds to the extent that no funds have ever been compromised. While the delay in withdrawals certainly caused some anxiety among PayBase customers, the delay versus a loss of funds was greatly appreciated.

Heightened security was implemented as a result of many of GAW Miners’ Hashstakers expiring, leading to a release of thousands of PayCoins and an overwhelming amount of activity. The enhanced level of security ensured proper funds were being directed to the rightful PayCoin owners’ ZenCloud account and the accounting of all funds.

“It’s no secret we’ve been hacked from outside sources, but these nefarious efforts have never resulted in customer funds being compromised, ever,” said H. Josh Garza, CEO of GAW Miners, the company that operates PayBase and ZenCloud. “Because of the ongoing attempts to undermine our systems, we’ve employed very rigorous levels of security that some just don’t like, but in the end are appreciated as we’ve never lost customers’ funds. However, we’ve learned that there will always be critics.”

The theft of cryptocurrencies has been pervasive in a category that can best be likened to the wild west of the financial sector, where integrity and honor are seemingly at a loss. The much-publicized Bitcoin theft in February 2014 is a case in point as cryptocurrencies, as secure as they may be are for all intents and purposes, a bearer instruments.

“Just recieved my missing bitcoin Deposit, thanks Paybase team, just please next time be quicker ☺ ) but still KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.” Said Archibullo, a blogger on the Hashtalk blogsite in response to the company’s effort.

Which is all a load of BS of course. Withdrawals from ZenCloud worked when HashStakers expired. Withdrawals from Paybase were halted before HashStakers expired. Smoke and mirrors. I love the Mt.Gox reference though.

"a blogger on the Hashtalk blogsite" - WTF is that?

Does anybody else feel like these Paybase blog posts were fed through a language filter to some other language and then back to English? Some of the worst writing I've ever encountered, and this should be an example of their most polished effort. Sad, really.

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March 27, 2015, 08:03:31 PM
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Another saying things are not functioning. But hey, if a paid shill (or insider smurf account) says they are, then these guys must be FUDders, right?


https://hashtalk.org/topic/35142/hash-market/2
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Mr John C. Caceres most likely wrote that. fits his style
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Does anybody else feel like these Paybase blog posts were fed through a language filter to some other language and then back to English? Some of the worst writing I've ever encountered, and this should be an example of their most polished effort. Sad, really.

If feel they were fed through a bull.
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